[00:01] <oerheks> small pic .. not enough info
[00:19] <linux_hacks> am having an issue connecting to pptp client.. can someone please help.. this is only message seeing.. "sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0xb4cbc27b> <pcomp> <accomp>]"
[00:20] <linux_hacks> and erroring out with LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
[00:28] <eskatrem> hello, I just upgraded to 17.04 (from 16.04) and now the usb tethering doesnt work, somebody got a clue?
[00:30] <rofltech> eskatrem: what's the error?
[00:30] <rofltech> I'm tethering atm and it's working fine.
[00:31] <eskatrem> rofltech that's the thing, I don't even know how to audit that, in the connection menu I see the phone but I can't use it
[00:32] <konrados> Hello! From time to time my wifi (via usb adapter) just stops working, usually it clearly disconnects. Putting the device out and back in solves a problem for a minute. Restarting the entire PC works much longer. How do I start debugging it?
[00:36] <madLyfe> if i did a sudo command and it wants me to type in my password but i want to cancel the command, is that possible?
[00:36] <eskatrem> madLyfe: yes, with ctrl-C
[00:36] <madLyfe> ah ok. didnt know that applied
[00:36] <rofltech> eskatrem: do you have wheel/sudo privs?
[00:37] <eskatrem> rofltech: what's that?
[00:37] <rofltech> nm might be trying to ask to up priv temporarily to root to use the connection...
[00:37] <eskatrem> ok and how do I see that?
[00:37] <rofltech> try killing nm-applet then sudo nm-applet see what happens.
[00:38] <eskatrem> ok
[00:39] <eskatrem> hmm interesting, after `sudo nm-applet`, *nothing* happens - and I still dont have the connection button
[00:40] <rofltech> so you don't even get the applet to pop up when you run that?
[00:40] <rofltech> you can try sudo nmcli and connect manually maybe
[00:40] <eskatrem> exactly, the applet doesnt event pop up
[00:41] <rofltech> sec
[00:42] <eskatrem> yeah, with `sudo nmcli` I can seethe phone, it says: "enp0s20f0u1: unmanaged"
[00:43] <rofltech> in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections do you see the profile for your phone?
[00:43] <rofltech> not sure if tethering makes one or not :/ but if you can see it as a device that's good.
[00:44] <eskatrem> no, just "Ethernet connection 1"
[00:44] <rofltech> that'd be your tether
[00:44] <rofltech> usb tether show's as an ethernet device
[00:45] <eskatrem> well I dont have any other connection
[00:45] <eskatrem> let me try to unplug to see if "ethernet connection 1" is still there
[00:46] <rofltech> ok if it is try nmcli connection up "ethernet connection 1"
[00:46] <eskatrem> no, when I unplug the phone, "ethernet connection 1" is still here
[00:47] <rofltech> yeah that's the profile it made though.
[00:47] <rofltech> it doesn't delete it
[00:47] <rofltech> plug it back in then try nmcli connection up "ethernet connection 1" (put caps wherever needed)
[00:48] <rofltech> see if that errors out on you
[00:48] <eskatrem> "Error: connection activation failed: no suitable device found for this connection"  :'-(
[00:49] <eskatrem> (after typing `nmcli connection up "E`, I could autocomplete so I'm sure to have the right name for the connection)
[00:49] <rofltech> try sudo nm-connection-editor
[00:49] <rofltech> can you edit the connection for your phone or add it from there
[00:52] <rofltech> make sure you have 'allow all users to use this cnnection' checked
[00:54] <eskatrem> yeah, I can edit, but if I change the device (from eth0 to enp0s20f0u1), I see an error "invalid setting ethernet: invalid etherniet device (enp0s20f0u1 ())"
[00:55] <rofltech> hmm
[00:55] <rofltech> when you replugged your phone in did you put it back in tether mode?
[00:55] <eskatrem> yes
[00:57] <eskatrem> yeah, `sudo mncli` sees it when it's in tether mode, and doesnt see it when it's not in tether mode
[00:57] <iputra> nmcli
[00:57] <eskatrem> nmcli, right
[00:59] <rofltech> ok so with it there try manually setting it up (ip link set <devname> up)
[00:59] <rofltech> then dhcpcd <devname>
[00:59] <eskatrem> and another thing, with `sudo nm-applet`, nothing happens but with `nm-applet`, I get the connection pop up
[00:59] <eskatrem> how do I find devname ?
[01:00] <rofltech> it's the enp0s20f0u1 thing
[01:00] <eskatrem> hopefully autocomplete will work there...
[01:00] <rofltech> ip link will show you the name if you forget
[01:01] <eskatrem> WOW, it's working!!
[01:01] <eskatrem> (autocomplete AND the tethering)
[01:01] <rofltech> lol :)
[01:01] <eskatrem> I don't know how you know those stuff
[01:01] <rofltech> looks lke your device was just set to off :)
[01:02] <eskatrem> the strange thing is that it was working right before I upgraded to 17.04
[01:04] <eskatrem> when you say "set to off", what do you mean by that exactly?
[01:05] <rofltech> ever seen ifconfig down/link set down?  it basically says shut this device off i'm not using it want nothing from it etc
[01:06] <eskatrem> yeah, I tried ifconfig but I must be too stupid to interpret the output
[01:06] <thyriaen> I have recently switched my graphics card to an Rx Vega and  have thus used the AMDGPU-PRO driver ( the same driver was working fine with my R9 280x before ) - however since the update i get a screen flashing about every 5 minutes ( redshift is turning off and on again - this does not happen when i don't have redshift running ) any ideas ?
[01:07] <darkdrgn2k> any one know why my ubuntu frees durring apt install on "reading database"
[01:08] <rofltech> darkdrgn2k: is your database corrupt/ was it stopped halpway through installing something
[01:08] <darkdrgn2k> how do i correct
[01:08] <rofltech> you can delete the database then apt update should remake it.
[01:08] <darkdrgn2k> how?
[01:09] <eskatrem> rofltech: thanks a lot for the help, it's 3am here, I'm off to bed.
[01:09] <rofltech> eskatrem: np have a nice night.
[01:09] <eskatrem> bye!
[01:10] <darkdrgn2k> i tried apt-get clean
[01:12] <rofltech> rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists
[01:12] <rofltech> then apt update
[01:14] <rofltech> darkdrgn2k: sorry didn't tag you try above
[01:20] <iputra> :q
[01:53] <boblamont> should there be a noticeable hit in performance from lubuntu 13.10 to 16.0.3?
[01:58] <rofltech> boblamont: depends on your hardware but probably not.
[02:01] <boblamont> I think it might just be Mixxx that's gotten heavier
[02:03] <KOI-1894-01> Say I have a gif and I want to modify the time delay for a couple of frames
[02:03] <KOI-1894-01> What are some good tools to do this on Ubuntu?
[02:04] <boblamont> gimp?
[02:06] <KOI-1894-01> I find i run into a few problems doing gif work in gimp
[02:07] <KOI-1894-01> I appreciate the stuff that's in gimp to support gifs
[02:07] <KOI-1894-01> But overall it can sometimes feel like a bit of a round peg square hole scenario
[02:11] <rofltech> KOI-1894-01: i don't edit images so maybe it doesn't do that but inkscape?
[03:07] <Blakes5> Hey. I'm trying to troubleshoot a hdd performance issue. The setup is 4 drives using LVM to make a single logical drive. The drives are housed in an enclosure connected to USB. Past throughput was about 70MB/s. Tonight I'm getting like <1MB/s. I've rebooted. CPU, Mem, free space are all fine. What else can I look at?
[04:04] <Maynard> Hello all!
[04:05] <donkeysnore> hey
[04:08] <Maynard> Having a craptastic day HERE!!! I have an .iso that I put onto a USB to boot as live usb..... which it does fine until I try to install to my other USB (don't ask....It's my FrankenLappie).  Kep getting a gru fail as in install.
[04:08] <MarkProffitt> I'm running Ubunut on a laptop with no CD/DVD.  I need to install Windows8 on a USB drive (flash or HD) I have the .ISO but can't seem to get the USB drive to boot.
[04:09] <MarkProffitt> Maynard, check the other USB for errors
[04:09] <Maynard> 'grub-efi-amd64-signed apckage failed to install blah blah what you are making won't boot.
[04:10] <Maynard> Is there just a simple program to run and insert the .iso to read it and check MD%sum or whatnot.  I had one before the crash.
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> !md5 | Maynard
[04:10] <Maynard> other meaning Live or target
[04:10] <Maynard> ?
[04:11] <MarkProffitt> Maynard, the USB drive might be damaged. You might be able to reformat it. But often with USB thumb drives if they go bad they can't be trusted at all.
[04:12] <Maynard> lotuspshychje yes MD5
[04:12] <Maynard> I have used this and done it a million times checked and everyflaash is fine.
[04:13] <harut> There's a utility to check flash storage for problems
[04:13] <Maynard> I mean I can read those thanks bot but they are greek to me... thismmethod always works and then once in a blue moon it comes with the grub fail
[04:13] <Maynard> boot installer
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> Maynard: can you explain how you burnt the iso to usb?
[04:18] <Maynard> SO again I tried unetbootin then I read there's an issue with 16.04.3.  This one was mksub
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> Maynard: how about you try ubuntu disk utlity, unetbootin gives some issues in some cases
[04:19] <cantdcrypt> hi there, ive just received a pgp message and am having trouble decrypting it. the error message from 'gpg -d msg.gpg' returns: encrypted w/ rsa key; decryption failed: no secret key
[04:19] <Maynard> I'm running in the live usb now.  Just trying to install gives the bootloader crash error.
[04:20] <cantdcrypt> I dont know who sent the message, or how they would have access to my public key... there was also a header attached which just contained the msg 'Version 1'
[04:20] <Maynard> lotuspsychje there is no disk utility in ubuntustudio.  I have GParted I believe.
[04:20] <cantdcrypt> any thoughts?
[04:21] <Maynard> Yup I have GParted.
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> Maynard: i mean the usb creator tool from ubuntu
[04:23] <Maynard> Yes I understand.  it's not in this ditro
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> !find creator
[04:24] <Maynard> disk utility does not come with studio
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> Maynard: you could install it?
[04:24] <Maynard> startup disk creator I have, but it only works on cd dvd
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !info usb-creator-gtk
[04:26] <Maynard> 'grub-efi-amd64-signed apckage failed to install blah blah what you are making won't boot.  I am inn the Live seesion.
[04:30] <arahael> If I want to take "notes" on multiple devices, it seems that the best tool for this is One Note.  Are there any other serious competitors, other than google?
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> Maynard: how did you create with unetbootin if you cant install?
[04:30] <Maynard> rebooting into 14.04 stable so I can ACTUALLY DO something.
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> kk
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | cantdcrypt can this help?
[04:31] <Maynard> SOrry miscomunication.... I am installing the 14 to go backwards because THAT one will install.  WHen I am no longer in Live I can TRY install of 16 and THAT's where I et the grub error.  BBIAB rebooting now.
[04:42] <cantdcrypt> @lotuspsychje, that is for encrypting a direcctory
[04:42] <cantdcrypt> ...not a message. Thanks though!
[05:05] <lilis> Hi guys, I can successfully execute a third-party GUI program through `sudo -E` but not when I put it in Upstart. How do I make it so that Upstart will do the same thing?
[05:05] <lilis> It seems like it requires a user desktop session or something but I don't know how to put it in Upstart
[06:30] <ducasse> lilis: what are you actually trying to accomplish?
[06:31] <lilis> I'm trying to run a program using Upstart
[06:31] <lilis> Which I can run through `sudo -E` (but not with `sudo` or `sudo su -c`)
[06:32] <lilis> Basically, I want to convert my command into Upstart script
[06:32] <lilis> It seems to depend on the user environment which is the puzzling part
[06:32] <ducasse> lilis: is the goal to run a gui application on boot?
[06:32] <lilis> Yeah
[06:33] <lilis> It needs root permission though
[06:33] <ducasse> then you should not be messing with upstart at all. you're right, it does require access to a user x session.
[06:34] <ducasse> put your command into ~/.xsessionrc, and it will launch when you log in
[06:34] <lilis> It depends on another Upstart program starting though
[06:35] <lilis> Is there a way to do Upstart event in .xsessionrc?
[06:35] <lilis> It's some kind of proprietary camera program so it's a bit weird I know :p
[06:36] <ducasse> the problem is that upstart can't access the user's X display. why not just check in ~/.xsessionrc that the upstart job it needs is running before launching the application?
[06:38] <ducasse> this is much the same thing you're trying to do: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/25684/how-to-access-x-display-from-a-cron-job-when-using-gdm3#25740
[06:47] <Squarism> So is wayland the default in 17.10?
[06:48] <ducasse> for gnome, it will be on release. 17.10 questions go in #ubuntu+1
[06:50] <lilis> ducasse: the problem with that is we don't always need to login (in fact, we will not login most of the time)
[06:51] <lilis> and it breaks our Upstart-for-every-module convention
[06:51] <lilis> :/
[06:51] <ducasse> lilis: then you have a problem. afaik you can't run an x application "on top" of the display manager
[06:52] <ducasse> lilis: you basically need to set up autologin of a user before starting your program.
[07:05] <lilis> ducasse: Ok, I just tested disabling the UI. Now no more display errors but still doesn't run correctly.
[07:05] <lilis> Let me see if I can gather more info
[07:06] <ducasse> lilis: look for error messages in ~/.xsession-errors
[07:07] <ducasse> (oh, you mean you're not using the x display? then nvm.)
[07:08] <lilis> Yeah, now I logged out to lightdm
[07:08] <lilis> and used ssh to start the program
[07:08] <lilis> Success with `sudo -E`
[07:09] <lilis> I set display_image in its settings to false which causes it to not use UI
[07:09] <lilis> Now just have to figure out how to start it with Upstart
[07:09] <lilis> ><
[07:10] <lilis> Right now, I use `exec su - [username] -c [script]` but it doesn't work
[07:12] <lilis> I mean, it runs but different stdout output (which clearly says it's not working)
[07:12] <ducasse> upstart has user jobs, iirc?
[07:14] <lilis> Do I just put the file at $HOME/.init?
[07:15] <ducasse> i might be mistaken, i can't find anything online. i found this, though: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#run-a-job-as-a-different-user
[07:18] <ducasse> lilis: also, there is #upstart
[07:19] <Duality> hi
[07:19] <lilis> I tried #upstart, but there's still no people chatting since I last asked lol
[07:20] <Duality> My machine has two interfaces, and when i broadcast it goes to one interface and not the other, is there a way to force the broadcast to go to a perticular interface ?
[07:25] <ducasse> lilis: what errors are you getting?
[07:26] <lilis> ducasse: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/Bzd201m8MTtILuut~2F04A
[07:27] <lilis> I'll show the correct one
[07:28] <lilis> Correct one: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/rzU9wuWe-L1wHyFMDEcXDg
[07:29] <lilis> The wrong one ran using Upstart over ssh
[07:30] <lilis> The correct one ran using `sudo -E` over ssh
[07:30] <ducasse> lilis: ok, so it sort of looks like the first one can't open the device. i'm guessing permission problems or some prerequisite not filled.
[07:34] <ducasse> lilis: are you setting some environment variables etc for this software, since it looks like you need to preserve the user env.?
[07:41] <lilis> ducasse: I didn't set anything. But I did find out that the sdk example requires `sudo -E`
[07:42] <ducasse> lilis: and what if you remove -E? if that fails, you're missing something in the environment.
[07:55] <boblamont> I just installed Mixxx and it won't launch from the Sound & Video menu, only from the terminal, how can I fix it?
[08:09] <ducasse> boblamont: look for errors in ~/.xsession-errors when you try to launch it from the menu
[08:10] <Askannz> Hi
[08:12] <Askannz> I'm trying to debug a simple C program running on a minimal 32-bit ubuntu
[08:12] <Askannz> But GDB can't seem to find printf.c
[08:13] <Askannz> I've installed every glibc-related package I could find, but it doesn't work
[08:13] <Askannz> Anything obvious I've missed ?
[08:15] <ducasse> Askannz: does this help? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25584773/cannot-run-debug-after-printf-statement-in-gdb
[08:21] <Askannz> I've just realised that this error does not stop GDB
[08:21] <Askannz> And I don't need to step into printf anyway
[08:22] <Askannz> So I there's no problem actually ^^
[08:22] <lilis> Yeah, it will fail. That's why I used `sudo -E`
[08:23] <lilis> Sorry late reply, had meeting
[08:23] <Askannz> It's just weird because I dis the exact same thing on a 64-bit install and GDB was not complaining
[08:24] <ducasse> lilis: then i suggest you look into the user environment, try to figure out what it might need. (use 'env')
[08:27] <boblamont> ducasse: xsession-errors lists "script for ibus started at run_im. script for auto started at run_im. script for default started at run_im." and trying to launch mixxx again doesn't add anything to it
[08:29] <boblamont> I looked at the desktop file and I notice that when the menu version of mixxx launches, it also launches pasuspender, but I don't know whether that gets launched or not...
[08:29] <ducasse> boblamont: are you using mixxx from the official repos? which release is this?
[08:34] <boblamont> it's mixxx 1.10.1 on lubuntu 14.04.5, installed with synaptic ... 1.10.1 on 13.10 and 2.0 on 16.04 have the same desktop file and both work
[08:35] <ducasse> boblamont: hmmm. i can't find any bugreports... try asking in #ubuntustudio, someone there might have had the same problem.
[08:41] <iamkhush> I need assistance in troubleshooting Trusty wifi issue(Network Unclaimed). I have checked number of forum posts but doesnt seem to work. Is this the right channel to ask troubleshooting issues?
[08:42] <tomeaton17>  /close
[08:42] <EriC^^> iamkhush: 'rfkill list' show anything?
[08:44] <iamkhush> EriC^^: its empty. Please also check http://paste.ubuntu.com/25430851/
[08:47] <ducasse> iamkhush: you have no driver loaded for the wireless. see this:
[08:47] <ducasse> !broadcom
[08:48] <iamkhush> Since it was working initially and something broke after restart , I have tried sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source and installed `bcmwl-kernel-source_6.30.223.141+bdcom-0ubuntu_amd64.deb' using offline mode.
[08:48] <tomeaton17> How do I choose to install a package from ppa instead of default repository
[08:48] <iamkhush> ducasse: checking the link now
[08:50] <ducasse> tomeaton17: apt install package=version
[08:51] <EriC^^> iamkhush: try "lspci -k | grep -A4 Broadcom | nc termview.me 9999"
[08:51] <tomeaton17> ducasse: Where do I find the version on the ppa listing?
[08:51] <EriC^^> iamkhush: this is what i get http://termview.me/kmme
[08:52] <ducasse> tomeaton17: apt policy package
[08:53] <tomeaton17> Oh the repository doesn't have a release file
[08:54] <ducasse> tomeaton17: download the package and install with dpkg
[08:55] <iamkhush> EriC^^: The network controller is same, but the subsystem is dell wireless 1704 802.11n + BT4.0
[08:56] <iamkhush> EriC^^: there is no kernel driver in use and kernel modules as well
[08:56] <tomeaton17> ducasse: It only doesn't have one for zesty how do I force install for Xenial
[08:57] <ducasse> tomeaton17: talk to the maintainer, ask him to build one
[08:58] <The_Dv8or> sup
[08:59] <tomeaton17> In the meantime how do I add the xenial version?
[09:00] <ducasse> tomeaton17: don't install packages intended for another release
[09:09] <The_Dv8or> hey, is someone around that can help me with a mail server firewall issue?
[09:16] <void07> Hi, My PC with Integrated IntelHD2500 doesn't recognise my resolution but My laptop does with IntelHD5500 in Ubuntu 16.04 what should I do to make it recognise?
[09:16] <Duality> alright, i don't know what i am doing wrong, but I got a machine with two interfaces, one is staically configured the other dhcp. now i want to broadcast udp packets on both interfaces and i use the Following command for it: socat - udp-sendto:255.255.255.255:1337,broadcast but i only receive it on the statically configured interface. any ideas ?
[09:17] <Duality> I meen i only receive it on the interface that has dhcp enabled
[09:17] <Duality> not on my statically configured one
[09:29] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[09:38] <Squarism> If one aims to upgrade to 17.10, is it better to install 16.04 or 17.04?
[09:45] <Ben64> Squarism: 17.04
[09:45] <Squarism> Ok!
[09:45] <Ben64> or even better, 17.10
[09:48] <Squarism> Ben64, isnt that alpha alpha?
[09:50] <ducasse> Squarism: beta1 freeze tomorrow, but development releases are generally not intended for end users. upgrading from 17.04 will work fine.
[09:58] <Squarism> ducasse, Ok. Thanks for all the info
[10:18] <adac> Is there a tool with which I can modify/add stuff to a PDF file? It would be handy to correct some things (i.e. mark stuff red or so)
[10:18] <adac> and add additonal comments
[10:20] <ducasse> i found 'pdfmod' by searching the repos, never tried it. note: it requires mono
[10:37] <adac> ducasse, hmm ok I try it out thanks!
[10:41] <adac> ducasse, found some nice lists here (German) https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/PDF/
[10:42] <kbob> how to report a bug ?
[10:42] <ducasse> !bug | kbob
[10:43] <kbob> ducasse: thanks
[10:43] <cloudbud> what does a postinstall script does in dpkg?
[10:43] <arunangshu> which is the user friendly application for creating family tree ??
[10:48] <ducasse> cloudbud: as the name implies, it runs after the package is installed
[10:49] <bazhang> arunangshu, gramps
[10:49] <bazhang> !info gramps | arunangshu
[10:50] <ducasse> cloudbud: ps, please don't crosspost
[10:51] <arunangshu> thanks
[11:41] <zetheroo> does anyone have a solution for creating symlinks from a gvfs mount?
[12:30] <Blakes5> Hello, I have a logical volume of 4 drives. Right now I'm getting very poor performance copying some files on that LV <1MB/s. The copies eventually fail. Other files copy just fine. It feels like a drive in the volume is going bad. Smart says they're all good and using e2fsck says the LV volume is clean. I need help.
[12:50] <willdeberry> is there a way to block a file from being deployed via deb? ie: google-chrome-stable package deploys it's own apt .list file. I don't want that happening
[12:51] <fission6> what is celery being run by, i cant understand the htop tree view, http://imgur.com/a/Nlbb2
[12:55] <ducasse> willdeberry: that strikes me as a bad idea, as chrome won't get updates
[12:58] <willdeberry> in this case i am managing that by other means in another list file
[12:58] <willdeberry> i am basically doing a full mirror of upstream repos including chrome since I need to control what URL the machine reaches out to
[12:59] <willdeberry> so not only do I not need the duplicate list file that would and could affect chrome, i don't need the URL it is trying to fetch the deb from since it will be blocked and cause apt to get a 404
[13:09] <Fenster> hey guys, can someone help me determine where my space is being used on a linux running on a NUC?
[13:09] <Fenster> I have a 40GB SSD and the only purpose is to run Ubiquiti Unifi controller
[13:09] <Fenster> the controller isnt starting and it appears that my drive is full
[13:10] <Fenster> I cant install anything either because I get a disk full error
[13:14] <princemotumbo> you can use: du -hs
[13:17] <Fenster> looks like the biggest offendars are var = 15GB, lib = 3.1Gb and usr = 5GB
[13:18] <willdeberry> Fenster: var may be full due to apt cache. may want to try and clear that as a start
[13:18] <vlt> Fenster: du -hax | sort -h | tail
[13:18] <Fenster> I went to var and I see 272MB for Cache
[13:19] <Fenster> ok.. cache is clear
[13:19] <genii> The /boot also fills up with old kernels
[13:19] <Fenster>  and /var/lib shows 14G
[13:20] <Fenster> under that, mongodb shows 3.1g and unifi shows 9.8gb
[13:21] <Fenster> I cannot cd into unifi
[13:21] <Fenster> says permission denied
[13:23] <princemotumbo> Fenster: sudo -i
[13:24] <Fenster> that did it
[13:25] <princemotumbo> Fenster: but be very careful from now on. even if its an ubuntu, there is no trash for "rm" ;)
[13:25] <Fenster> heh
[13:26] <Fenster> do you know if there are ubuntu install files that can be deleted?
[13:26] <vlt> Fenster: apt autoremove; apt clean
[13:28] <Fenster> hrmmm, that oks like it will delete a lot of linix-headers and linix-image
[13:28] <Fenster> is that correct?
[13:29] <princemotumbo> Fenster: normally yes. those are old ones, that are not used anymore on your installation
[13:29] <vlt> Fenster: Yes, old versions of them.
[13:29] <Fenster> ok that should free up 891MB
[13:29] <Fenster> that might do it
[13:32] <Fenster> thanks guys.. I think you may have saved the day
[13:32] <Fenster> now to figure out how to solve this permanently
[13:33] <Fenster> would ghosting this drive to a larger drive be a good solution or is it best to start with a fresh install
[13:33] <holgerdanske> https://pastebin.com/wk6hk5Mx
[13:34] <holgerdanske> Is this an issue where I have the wrong MATE PPA or somesuch?
[13:34] <vlt> Fenster: What does ghosting mean? Cloning it?
[13:36] <vlt> Fenster: If yes, you'll have to resize both the file system and the block device it resides on (in reverse order).
[13:37] <Fenster> grrr.. im kinda noobish... so a new install might make the most sense
[13:56] <thebigj> http://blog.jaysinh.com/2017/08/28/how_to_repair_a_broken_grub_in_ubuntu.html
[13:56] <thebigj> People share your views on my this blog post. I am blogging first time on GRUB. Let me know if you find any issues that I completely ignored.
[13:56] <thebigj> Thanks!
[13:57] <thebigj> ioria: ^^
[13:59] <ducasse> thebigj: as we've mentioned before, this isn't really the right channel for that
[14:03] <BluesKaj> also crossposting
[14:06] <thebigj> ducasse: Sorry!
[14:11] <linocisco> hi all
[14:12] <linocisco> is there anybody using Cisco Packettracer 7.1 on ubuntu?
[14:12] <linocisco> is there anybody using Cisco Packettracer 7.1 on ubuntu?
[14:12] <leftyfb> linocisco: sorry, this isn't the place to conduct surveys
[14:12] <linocisco> leftyfb i got problem with one library
[14:13] <linocisco> leftyfb, ./PacketTracer7: error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Script.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:14] <oerheks> easy find, https://askubuntu.com/questions/944717/packet-tracer-7-1-wont-lauch-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[14:14] <leftyfb> linocisco: try installing libqt5script5
[14:14] <linocisco> leftyfb, apt-get install libqt5script5?
[14:15] <leftyfb> oerheks: his error doesn't match that post
[14:15] <leftyfb> linocisco: use sudo
[14:15] <linocisco> leftyfb, ok
[14:15] <leftyfb> linocisco: also, that application isn't part of Ubuntu and therefore, not supported here. There should be documentation and support methods from Cisco where you should seek help.
[14:22] <linocisco> leftyfb, cisco has no documentation on this ubuntu support
[14:33] <Sircle> Hi
[14:33] <Sircle> Is there a laptop that has the touch pad and all the finger scrolling etc features/gestures like Mac does?
[14:35] <vlt> Fenster: No, you don't need to reinstall. It's quite easy.
[14:35] <vlt> Fenster: The system should run just fine after reboot. Just the resizing is a small extra step.
[14:40] <Fenster> ok great.. thank you
[15:15] <linocisco> hi all
[15:15] <linocisco> I would like to ask in this post.https://askubuntu.com/questions/944717/packet-tracer-7-1-wont-lauch-ubuntu-16-04-lts/944750#944750. I dont know how to reply or ask under this post
[15:15] <linocisco> I dont see the box "Your Answer" or something like that to add comment.
[15:25] <leftyfb> linocisco: "Thank you for your interest in this question. Because it has attracted low-quality or spam answers that had to be removed, posting an answer now requires 10 reputation on this site (the association bonus does not count). "
[15:25] <leftyfb> at the bottom of the post
[15:27] <linocisco> leftyfb, so what do I do?
[15:27] <linocisco> leftyfb, i dont have that reputation
[15:27] <leftyfb> linocisco: I don't know there's anything you can do
[15:27] <linocisco> leftyfb, ubuntu and its community sucks
[15:28] <leftyfb> linocisco: ok, goodbye
[15:34] <adv_> how can i mount (read/write) my ubuntu partition from win10?
[15:35] <ducasse> linocisco: that behavior is not a great way to get help, as we are all volunteers
[15:36] <akik> adv_: try this http://fs-driver.org/ i don't know if it supports ext4
[15:36] <ducasse> adv_: you need an ext4 driver
[15:36] <linocisco> ducasse, I got my way lost. I was so difficult to find similar or same problem regarding ubuntu. when I found, I could not ask.
[15:36] <adv_> which is recommended?
[15:38] <ducasse> linocisco: probably because this is not an issue for ubuntu support, but for cisco support. ask them.
[15:38] <akik> adv_: another one is ext2fsd
[15:38] <linocisco> ducasse, cisco has none. because all required library and shell script and others are written in linux.
[15:42] <ducasse> linocisco: i'm sure they offer support for windows. it's their job to support their applications, ask where you purchased it.
[15:47] <pavlos> adv_: this may help ... https://www.technig.com/share-file-between-ubuntu-and-windows/
[15:50] <ducasse> adv_: btw, make sure you never edit linux scripts with a windows program
[15:51] <akik> adv_: are you dual booting or accessing the ubuntu partition through the network?
[15:53] <leftyfb> ducasse: wordpad is ok. Just not notepad
[15:55] <oerheks> !info gns3
[15:55] <ducasse> leftyfb: wordpad handles line endings correctly? didn't know that, thanks, it's been a few years since i last had to use windows :)
[15:55] <linocisco> rror while loading shared libraries: libQt5ScriptTools.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:55] <leftyfb> ducasse: yep
[15:56] <leftyfb> linocisco: did you try any of the suggestions you've been given here?
[15:56] <ducasse> leftyfb: 'apt-file search libQt5ScriptTools.so.5' will give you the name of the package you need
[15:57] <ducasse> linocisco: ^^
[15:57] <ducasse> sorry
[15:57] <leftyfb> I already told him what to install
[15:57] <ducasse> different .so
[15:57] <leftyfb> linocisco: try installing libqt5script5
[15:58] <leftyfb> from over an hour ago
[15:58] <linocisco> leftyfb, i tried installing like u said. not worked
[15:58] <leftyfb> linocisco: ok, then you need to contact Cisco support
[15:59] <ducasse> linocisco: use the command i just gave you
[15:59] <leftyfb> ducasse: apt-file isn't installed by default
[15:59] <nacc> you can `dpkg -S path`
[15:59] <leftyfb> linocisco: sudo apt-get install libqt5scripttools5
[15:59] <nacc> which should always work
[15:59] <linocisco> leftyfb, ya. i m downloading apt-file and updating
[16:00] <leftyfb> linocisco: sudo apt-get install libqt5scripttools5
[16:00] <linocisco> nacc, are you answering me?
[16:01] <leftyfb> linocisco: I answered you. Please install the above package.
[16:01] <nacc> linocisco: sorry no, that was a just a general comment about apt-file not being present
[16:01] <ducasse> nacc: not for a package that's not installed
[16:01] <jer> is there any way i can differentiate in X between a short keypress and a long key press on a keyboard function key? i.e., on my forward/back buttons, if it's a quick tap, i want to skip, but if it's a long press i want to seek
[16:01] <nacc> ducasse: true
[16:01] <nacc> ducasse: chicken and egg-ish
[16:06] <Funeral> The upgrade needs a total of 128 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 128 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[16:06] <Funeral> anyone  know what to do? :s
[16:06] <nacc> Funeral: can you do `sudo apt-get autoremove` ?
[16:06] <nacc> Funeral: and does that say it will attempt to remove any kernels
[16:06] <nacc> Funeral: also pastebin `ls -ahl /boot`
[16:07] <linocisco> apt-file update takes so long
[16:07] <Funeral> You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.
[16:08] <Funeral> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:08] <Funeral>  linux-image-extra-4.10.0-33-generic : Depends: linux-image-4.10.0-33-generic but it is not installed
[16:08] <nacc> linocisco: it's a lot of data
[16:08] <Funeral>  linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-4.10.0-33-generic but it is not installed
[16:08] <Funeral>  linux-signed-image-4.10.0-33-generic : Depends: linux-image-4.10.0-33-generic (= 4.10.0-33.37) but it is not installed
[16:08] <Funeral> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[16:08] <nacc> Funeral: use a pastebin, please
[16:08] <nacc> !pastebin | Funeral
[16:08] <Funeral> oh sry
[16:08] <nacc> Funeral: it's ok, I should have FAQ'd that to you at the top
[16:09] <Funeral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25432852/
[16:10] <linocisco> leftyfb, ducasse hi all. finally fixed qt issued. with sudo apt-get install libqt5scripttools5
[16:10] <linocisco> leftyfb, ducasse thanks alot for your help and patience
[16:11] <linocisco> leftyfb, ducasse if that doesn't work. I have no choice and need to reinstall ubuntu which is ugly decision
[16:11] <nacc> Funeral: ok and you can you pastebin the full output from `sudo apt autoremove` ?
[16:11] <nacc> Funeral: or apt-get
[16:11] <pavlos> Funeral: and what's the current kernel? uname -r
[16:12] <Funeral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25432863/
[16:13] <Funeral> pavlos: 4.10.0-32-generic
[16:13] <nacc> Funeral: ok, so i think i see what has happened -- autoremove wasn't run when it should have been (either automatically or manually) and so when trying to install a new kernel, /boot was full
[16:13] <nacc> Funeral: my recommended workaround: `sudo apt remove linux-image-extra-4.10.0-33-generic; sudo apt autoremove; sudo apt install linux-image-generic`
[16:14] <nacc> Funeral: i think the first should remove the half-installed package and linux-image-generic (as it's dependency)
[16:14] <nacc> Funeral: the second should remove a bunch of kernels
[16:14] <nacc> Funeral: and the third should put the metapackage back in, which should then try to reinstall the -33 kernel
[16:14] <compdoc_> how about: sudo apt autoremove
[16:15] <Funeral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25432883/
[16:16] <nacc> compdoc_: well that already is failing, because apt is in a bad state
[16:16] <Funeral> going to reinstall when the new version comes anyway, but was curious how to fix this :P
[16:16] <nacc> Funeral: ok, one sec, let me amend my commmands
[16:17] <Funeral> nacc: np
[16:17] <nacc> Funeral: try: `sudo apt remove linux-image-extra-4.10.0-33-generic linux-image-generic linux-signed-image-4.10.0-33-generic linux-signed-image-generic`
[16:17] <nacc> Funeral: once that completes, if it does, run: `sudo apt autoremove`
[16:17] <Funeral> same as before
[16:17] <nacc> Funeral: once that completes, if it does, run `sudo apt install linux-image-generic linux-signed-image-generic`
[16:17] <nacc> Funeral: oh wait, one more
[16:18] <nacc> Funeral: try: `sudo apt remove linux-image-extra-4.10.0-33-generic linux-image-generic linux-signed-image-4.10.0-33-generic linux-image-4.10.0-33-generic`
[16:19] <Funeral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25432906/
[16:19] <Funeral> first ones
[16:19] <Funeral> will try your last one now
[16:19] <Funeral> 2sec
[16:19] <nacc> Funeral: right, please read what i wrote
[16:19] <nacc> *if* the first succeeds
[16:19] <nacc> don't run all three, unless each in order succeeds
[16:20] <nacc> Funeral: probably needs to be `sudo apt remove linux-image-extra-4.10.0-33-generic linux-image-generic linux-signed-image-4.10.0-33-generic linux-image-4.10.0-33-generic linux-generic linux-signed-generic`
[16:21] <Funeral> getting the same messages as before
[16:22] <nacc> Funeral: the message has changed *each* time
[16:22] <nacc> Funeral: please use pastebin and provide the exact output :)
[16:22] <Funeral> oh oki
[16:22] <Funeral> gimme a sec
[16:24] <linocisco> hi all, I think I messed up installing some i386 packages as per suggestion from different forums and posts. I dont remember which I have installed really. I am worried that affect my system performance in the long run. How to do it?
[16:26] <ledeni> linocisco, to do it what?
[16:26] <linocisco> leftyfb, ducasse apt-file update still not finished yet. should I press Ctrl+C to quit?
[16:27] <Funeral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25432941/
[16:27] <acresearch> people, is there a way to install Adobe Acrobat Reader on ubuntu? I have a PDF document that I need to copy out of it a python script
[16:27] <linocisco> ledeni, for those unknown packages like :i386 suggested by some forum posts I closed and I dont remember
[16:27] <asdf-> to install intel graphics update tool i have to have libpackagekit-glib2-18 but it was deleted in Xenial
[16:27] <asdf-> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/libpackagekit-glib2-18
[16:28] <nacc> Funeral: ok, i think i confused you
[16:28] <nacc> Funeral: the last line (for about 8 minutes ago) has to be all on one line
[16:28] <asdf-> anyone have any recommendations on how to get the intel graphics tool installed? i have libpackagekit-glib2-dev installed
[16:28] <Funeral> oh
[16:28] <nacc> Funeral: once that *one line* finishes, then we go to the next (autoremove). Once that finishes, we go to the next (install the metapackages)
[16:28] <ledeni> linocisco,just live it no harm
[16:29] <acresearch> people, is there a way to install Adobe Acrobat Reader on ubuntu? I have a PDF document that I need to copy out of it a python script and I cannot do that without the Adobe program, unless someone knows a better way?
[16:30] <donofrio> How do I fix this tearing slow screen update unless moving window around... https://1drv.ms/i/s!AsBlZbBf72iNm8079jH_UxRzWtrtYA https://apaste.info/jCmB https://apaste.info/6vLq
[16:32] <Funeral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25432958/
[16:37] <ducasse> acresearch: first hit from ddg, https://askubuntu.com/questions/89127/how-do-i-install-adobe-acrobat-reader-deb-package-downloaded-from-adobe-website
[16:38] <nacc> Funeral: same command, just append ' linux-signed-image-generic'
[16:38] <mekhami> what's the current crowd favorite terminal
[16:38] <mekhami> i've been using terminator but i'm frustrated by its configuration
[16:39] <acresearch> ducasse: i have ubuntu 17.04
[16:39] <acresearch> ducasse: there is no apt search acroread
[16:39] <acresearch> ducasse: the adobe website does not have a linux download (only windows, mac, and android)
[16:40] <akik> !best | mekhami
[16:40] <Funeral> nacc: yey something is happening
[16:40] <mekhami> akik ▸ TT
[16:40] <ducasse> acresearch: read the answer for 14.04+
[16:40] <akik> mekhami: use the terminal that you like the best
[16:41] <mekhami> akik ▸ that's a really stupid answer. i asked what the crowd favorite was, what are other people using ,so i can have some idea what solid alternatives are to the terminal i don't like.
[16:41] <acresearch> ducasse: oh sorry, i thought the top answer was the best one,,, ok thanks
[16:41] <akik> mekhami: there's no polling here
[16:41] <mekhami> if you don't know the answer, that's fine, don't need the lazy responses though
[16:41] <nacc> mekhami: this channel is not for polling
[16:41] <mekhami> i don't recall polling at all
[16:41] <Funeral> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25432999/
[16:41] <mekhami> i'm asking "what are the terminal alternatives"
[16:41] <nacc> mekhami: "favorite" is a poll. "best" is a poll.
[16:42] <mekhami> it's a straight forward question with a straight forward answer
[16:42] <nacc> mekhami: for that purpose, google it.
[16:42] <mekhami> why is this the most uptight channel ever
[16:42] <mekhami> seriously, of all of freenode, the highest cunt density lives right here. whatever gets you off i guess
[16:42] <akik> wow
[16:42] <nacc> lol
[16:43] <nacc> Funeral: ok, we may have to take the hammer to it a bit, just to free up enough space
[16:44] <nacc> Funeral: sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-46-generic
[16:44] <nacc> Funeral: then run the same command again as before
[16:44] <Funeral> oki
[16:46] <Funeral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25433026/
[16:46] <Funeral> still not enough?
[16:46] <acresearch> ducasse: i followed the instructions but there is an error, it does not work
[16:47] <nacc> Funeral: possibly. Does `sudo apt autoremove` work now?
[16:47] <ducasse> !doesntwork | acresearch
[16:48] <Funeral> looks like it, doing something this time atleast
[16:48] <acresearch> ducasse: when i execute acroread i get (acroread:26365): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "adwaita",    repeated for many different modules
[16:48] <Funeral> will see soon
[16:48] <nacc> Funeral: nice -- i think we unwedged apt enough to let autoremove free up space, hopefully
[16:48] <ducasse> acresearch: that's a warning, not an error
[16:49] <acresearch> oh
[16:49] <acresearch> ducasse: you are right, ok it works, thanks :-)   silly me
[16:54] <Funeral> nacc: wow thank you!! everything works now again :D im new to linux, been trying awhile to fix it myself with no success
[16:55] <nacc> Funeral: ok, have you done the last step?
[16:55] <nacc> Funeral: to reinstall the metapackages?
[16:55] <nacc> Funeral: specifically, `sudo apt install linux-image-generic linux-generic linux-signed-generic linux-signed-image-generic`
[16:56] <nacc> Funeral: and i can explain a bit better why that worked, if you want
[16:57] <Funeral> nacc: yes i did the last step too, you can try to explain :D
[16:57] <nacc> Funeral: ok, cool
[16:58] <nacc> Funeral: so basically, you were in a spot where the latest kernel had started to install, but ran out of space. That defines apt's state (failed-install state)
[16:58] <nacc> Funeral: for apt to proceed at that point, you need to get out of failed-install state.
[16:58] <nacc> Funeral: but, unfortunately, that kernel wasn't installed in isolation, it was brought in by the various metapackages that bring the latest kernel in at all times (the ones you just reinstalled)
[16:58] <nacc> Funeral: so to remove that failed-install package, we had to first remove the metapackages
[16:59] <nacc> Funeral: that allowed us to mark the new kernel as removed
[16:59] <nacc> Funeral: which then allowed autoremove to free up space
[16:59] <nacc> Funeral: and then the cleanup was putting those metapackages back
[17:00] <Funeral> ah i see
[17:00] <Funeral> was afraid to remove something myself
[17:00] <nacc> Funeral: understood, it's a bad state to be in
[17:00] <nacc> Funeral: i'd recommend using unattended-upgrades to remove unneeded packages automatically
[17:01] <Funeral> learning new things everyday
[17:01] <Funeral> always been a windows user, changed to linux few months ago
[17:01] <Funeral> never going back :P
[17:01] <nacc> Funeral: welcome :)
[17:02] <Funeral> i have another question btw, i have two SSDs
[17:02] <Funeral> installed ubuntu on one of them
[17:03] <Funeral> and later added the second to the system
[17:03] <Funeral> how can i see that i did it correctly
[17:03] <compdoc_> did you use gparted or somethign to create a patition?
[17:03] <compdoc_> partition
[17:03] <Funeral> yes
[17:04] <compdoc_> you can mount it?
[17:04] <Funeral> but not sure if i did it correctly
[17:04] <compdoc_> what partition type?
[17:05] <Funeral> ext2 i think
[17:05] <compdoc_> eww
[17:05] <compdoc_> use ext4
[17:05] <Funeral> oh
[17:05] <Funeral> ext4
[17:05] <Funeral> i did ext4
[17:05] <Funeral> looking at it now
[17:05] <compdoc_> good
[17:06] <compdoc_> you can use /etc/fstab to cause it to mount in a certain directory at boot, or do other fancy things
[17:06] <compdoc_> you could move your home directory to it, for instance
[17:06] <Funeral> its /dev/stb1
[17:06] <Funeral> sdb1
[17:07] <compdoc_> sounds right
[17:07] <Funeral> is that storage added to my home directory then?
[17:07] <compdoc_> not automatically
[17:07] <compdoc_> does it show up as an icon on your desktop?
[17:08] <Funeral> no, only home icon
[17:08] <compdoc_> you might not be using the space then
[17:08] <Funeral> hehe
[17:10] <compdoc_> lots of ways to mount and use it
[17:10] <Funeral> in gparted it says iv used 2.4gb
[17:11] <Funeral> oh
[17:11] <Funeral> and it says
[17:11] <compdoc_> open the disk utility. you can press a button and mount it
[17:11] <Funeral> Status: not mounted
[17:12] <oerheks> hit the "play" button
[17:12] <Funeral> yey
[17:12] <Funeral> thanks
[17:13] <Funeral> where is the directory media?
[17:14] <Funeral> nvm found it
[17:14] <Funeral> :P
[17:14] <Funeral> thanks again guys
[17:14] <Disaster_Area> hey i'm having trouble installing zoom on ubuntu 16.04 lts
[17:14] <Disaster_Area> when I download the .deb, then hit install in the Ubuntu Software program
[17:15] <Disaster_Area> an icon shows up on the launchbar with a question mark in a grey box and a loading icon that's not loaded
[17:15] <Disaster_Area> which i can't click on; when i right click it shows an empty line and then Lock To Launcher
[17:15] <Disaster_Area> how do I fix this
[17:16] <leftyfb> Disaster_Area: what is "zoom"?
[17:16] <Disaster_Area> it's a conference calling thingy
[17:16] <oerheks> deb packages outside our repo ..
[17:16] <Disaster_Area> https://zoom.us/download
[17:16] <leftyfb> Disaster_Area: you'll have to seek support from them
[17:16] <Disaster_Area> alright thx
[17:20] <oerheks> they really give good support for .deb .. https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Linux-Installation ( not )
[17:20] <oerheks> nokey, i guess you don't get a proper repo instance so you would get updates.
[17:21] <BluesKaj> Disaster_Area, install gdebi then run the deb file
[17:21] <Disaster_Area> thx
[17:21] <Disaster_Area> how do I do that
[17:22] <BluesKaj> Disaster_Area, sudo apt install gdebi in the console , then click on the deb file
[17:32] <Disaster_Area> alright got it working, thx~
[17:49] <cloudbud> how to install the a package without executing the postinstall script
[17:52] <BluesKaj> what package ,what post install script ?
[17:53] <leftyfb> cloudbud: https://askubuntu.com/questions/482928/ignore-apt-get-postinstall-scripts-automatically
[18:09] <sla3k> Hi, how would I go about upgrading the whole ubuntu server 16.04 LTS but not the kernel
[18:11] <ducasse> !pinning | sla3k
[18:11] <ducasse> sla3k: or 'apt-mark hold linux-image...'
[18:13] <sla3k> ducasse: Thanks, looking into it
[18:18] <leftyfb> sla3k: why?
[18:18] <leftyfb> sla3k: upgrading a 16.04 server at this point in time isn't advisable. Nor is upgrading everything but the kernel. What is your reasoning to both?
[18:20] <sla3k> leftyfb: Oh okay, I upgraded the kernel to 4.12.9 but wanted it to hold from upgrading to any upper version (4.12.X is needed and no other for some tasks that engineering team is performing) but as you suggest it is not advisable to upgrade the 16.04, I'll let it be
[18:21] <leftyfb> sla3k: there is no released version of ubuntu running a kernel newer than 4.12.9
[18:23] <leftyfb> sla3k: there is no unreleased version of ubuntu running a kernel newer than 4.12.9. There's also no released version of ubuntu running 4.12.*
[18:23] <TheWild> hello
[18:24] <TheWild> the "Start" button lists few most used applications and a big bunch of thumbnails of pictures that are no longer accessible. How to clear the thumbnail cache?
[18:27] <leftyfb> TheWild: try sudo update-icon-caches /usr/share/icons/*
[18:27] <leftyfb> TheWild: also, there's no "Start" button in default ubuntu
[18:27] <holgerdanske> Kind of an oddball question but what DE do you all use?
[18:28] <holgerdanske> I'm preparing to move away from Unity right now with the change up but I'm having trouble finding a DE that is as easy, for me at least, to handle multitasking.
[18:29] <oerheks> wrong channel for polling indeed, there are enough choises
[18:29] <oerheks> !flavors
[18:30] <TheWild> leftyfb: nope, that didn't do it.
[18:30] <leftyfb> TheWild: tried logging out and back in?
[18:30] <oerheks> system settings > security & privacy > clear usage data
[18:31] <TheWild> ...nooo. Okay, I'll be back soon.
[18:31] <oerheks> but relogin should have wiped them too..
[18:47] <TheWild> nope. Still looks like this: https://pasteboard.co/GI5ivr1.png
[18:49] <oerheks> system settings > security & privacy > clear usage data
[18:56] <TheWild> oerheks: yes, exactly what I wanted. Thank you very much.
[18:57] <Llama052> What's the best way in 2017 to sync your Ubuntu server to AD now?
[18:57] <Llama052> I used Centrify in the past
[19:02] <leftyfb> Llama052: I used to use likewise-open
[19:02] <leftyfb> https://askubuntu.com/questions/909621/how-can-i-install-likewise-open-in-ubuntu-17-04
[19:03] <Llama052> still open source?
[19:04] <leftyfb> Llama052: read up
[19:21] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[19:31] <cfoch-al1> hello
[19:31] <cfoch-al1> what applications for webcam do you know that apply effects besides Cheese?
[19:31] <cfoch-al1> :D
[19:35] <gabrielc> cfoch-al1: vlc
[19:39] <cfoch-al1> gabrielc: is it native or using a plugin?
[19:43] <gabrielc> cfoch-al1: native i think
[19:46] <gabrielc> cfoch-al1: under effects and filters
[19:48] <txtsd> Help. I just want to install npm: https://bpaste.net/show/6e5e8f47431b
[19:48] <txtsd> I'm familiar with linux, but not with Ubuntu's packaging/repos etc
[19:49] <txtsd> I'm on Trusty btw
[19:50] <Bashing-om> !info nodejs trustry | tx
[19:51] <Bashing-om> !info nodejs trusty | txtsd
[19:52] <txtsd> Did you read the link?
[19:52] <Bashing-om> txtsd: ^^ so that begs the question, what have you done that requires " 4.7.2~dfsg-1ubuntu3 is to be installed " ?
[19:54] <oerheks> its a zesty package..
[19:54] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nodejs/4.7.2~dfsg-1ubuntu3
[19:55] <txtsd> Broken dist-upgrade, I think
[19:55] <txtsd> VPS locked me down to a 2.x kernel. I tried dist-upgrading to 17.04
[19:55] <txtsd> glibc wasn't happy
[19:56] <oerheks> oh, vps services are heavily tweaked, ask them for the upgrade image?
[19:56] <ash_workz> isn't there a way after you do ^r for reverse history search to use the arrow keys to only cycle through the pattern you're matching?
[19:56] <ash_workz> like if you do `^r grep` ... can't you cycle through all the 'grep's ?
[19:59] <txtsd> oerheks: They aren't charging me anymore, but my services is running. I can't use their management portal or support services for fear of being discontinued :|
[20:03] <pavlos> ash_workz: ctrl r type grep then ctrl r again, it will look for grep matches
[20:03] <ash_workz> pavlos: awesome
[20:03] <ash_workz> pavlos: thanks
[20:04] <pavlos> ash_workz: np
[20:29] <ash_workz> is there a way to get diff to compare lines by first ignoring characters that match a regex?
[20:44] <gabrielc> ash_workz: man diff |grep ignore|grep match
[20:55] <Holos> Can anyone explain an almost one hour delay between bringing the NIC's up and starting RPC on boot up? dmesg is here: https://pastebin.com/fLJtYEHU
[21:00] <dckx-> hello. I asked this on  vlc with no sucess so I thiought ?I'd try here. I have an ipcam streaming on my local network. I open the stream using rtsp://admin@IP/videSub... I have three laptops all with ubuntu 16.04.03 and latest vlc. In two the streaming works well , but in one of them it opens but I only see a black video. Any ideas where to start troubleshooting? Most likely a codec  issue (MPEG4) but why only in one laptop out of the three (all
[21:00] <dckx-> have same newly installed ubuntu 16.04)
[21:02] <nacc> ash_workz: can you rephrase your question or pastebin an example of what you want?
[21:02] <ash_workz> nacc: does this help? https://regex101.com/r/XDVEzo/1/
[21:04] <nacc> ash_workz: your last line doesn't make sense to me
[21:04] <nacc> ash_workz: but yes, that makes it clearer what you meant
[21:04] <nacc> ash_workz: you aren't ignoring ^[^\/]+ on each line
[21:04] <ash_workz> nacc: which is the last line, 0775 web:web /path/to/hello < ?
[21:04] <nacc> ash_workz: and/or what you think that regex and ignoring it would mean :)
[21:05] <ash_workz> nacc: really?
[21:05] <nacc> ash_workz: as i read what you wrote, you're saying ignore any non '\' '/' that starts the line, correct?
[21:05] <nacc> ash_workz: that would result in the first file containing
[21:06] <nacc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25434290/
[21:06] <ash_workz> nacc: \/ is just supposed to escape a /. Yeah, ignore everything starting from the first character till the first instance of /
[21:06] <nacc> ash_workz: and the second containiing http://paste.ubuntu.com/25434296/
[21:07] <ash_workz> nacc: that's right
[21:07] <nacc> ash_workz: oh i never use side-by-side diffs, so i see that it does work
[21:07] <nacc> ash_workz: ok, write a wrapper, it's trivial? you have your sed already written, afaict
[21:08] <ash_workz> nacc: yeah... but using sed... I don't want to lose the permissions... ideally I would be able to have diff just not care so I can change the output to say, only show what's on the left not on the right
[21:09] <nacc> ash_workz: then adjust your regex to be more precise
[21:10] <nacc> ash_workz: i think what you're describing is not something diff is supposed to do, you have a specific use case for mangling the input and output
[21:11] <ash_workz> nacc: yeah
[21:11] <ash_workz> nacc: thanks
[21:12] <ash_workz> even if my journey ends in defeat, I am grateful for the knowledge. The way it's panning out makes me understand I am likely not using the right tools for the job
[21:15]  * Siva_Machina #linux
[21:15] <Siva_Machina> Whoops
[21:16] <nacc> ash_workz: or the tools you're using are doing only what they are supposed to do :) sometimes you have to write tools around tools
[21:18] <ash_workz> yeah; that strikes me as a "what you're trying to accomplish has likely been done 50 million times before in a better more efficient way" type of XY problem
[21:19] <mezod> hello, I created a .sh file with a shebang and absolute paths and put it inside cron.daily but it never gets executed. Any ideas how to figure out what's wrong? Nothing shows up in syslog
[21:20] <nacc> mezod: is it executable (permissions)?
[21:23] <mezod> nacc: do I have to chmod 777 it?
[21:23] <mezod> since it's the system who is supposed to run it I thought it'd have permissions
[21:25] <nacc> mezod: how would it have permissions if it is not executable? no 777 is not correct (generally)
[21:25] <nacc> mezod: is it executable?
[21:25] <mezod> it wasn't
[21:26] <mezod> i think i have to chmod +x
[21:26] <nacc> mezod: yes
[21:27] <mezod> ok, thank you, I'll wait 24h and see if it works this time
[21:33] <glitsj16> mezod: you can test it right now by running 'sudo run-parts /etc/cron.daily'
[21:33] <mezod> hmm will that execute everything in there?
[21:34] <glitsj16> mezod: yes, that's the idea
[21:35] <mezod> well, it didn't work then
[21:35] <mezod> :[
[21:37] <glitsj16> mezod: you could add some debugging commands to your cron script to verify execution, but did you get any errors running the above command?
[21:37] <mezod> if I manually execute it it does work now though
[21:37] <mezod> glitsj16: only "/usr/bin/mandb: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct"
[21:38] <mezod> whoops
[21:39] <mezod> i just realized i am doing this in the old crappy server which is not ubuntu >.<
[21:39] <mezod> sorry
[21:39] <glitsj16> mezod: no worries
[21:42] <mezod> glitsj16: I ran "sudo run-parts -v --report /etc/cron.daily" and my .sh doesn't seem to be on the list of those that got executed, do you know if I need to add the .sh anywhere else other than just inside the cron.daily folder?
[21:43] <glitsj16> mezod: no, there shouldn't be anything else needed besides the file to be executed, with correct ownership/permissions
[21:44] <loppy2> ubuntu system program detected popupis a piece of crap..
[21:44] <loppy2> ive looked through 4 logs looking for whats going on and i dont see anything
[21:44] <mezod> glitsj16: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 181 Aug 29 12:51 /etc/cron.daily/lists.sh <-- does this look right?
[21:45] <glitsj16> mezod: yes it does
[21:45] <mezod> the ones that got executed have exactly the same
[21:45] <mezod> hmm
[21:51] <glitsj16> mezod: odd indeed, you already mentioned being able to run it manually and using full paths in the script.. not much else I can think off tbh
[21:52] <mezod> the script just makes a mysqldump from a remote server and gzips the resulting file, if I execute it it creates the file
[21:52] <mezod> when I ru-parts it lists all the .sh in the folder except the one I created
[21:54] <glitsj16> mezod: I can't explain why that happens, but my cron fu is rather rusty, I migrated most of my cron scripts to systemd timers
[21:55] <mattfly> HI
[21:55] <mattfly> typhon-ide32: error while loading shared libraries: libQtWebKit.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:55] <mattfly> # apt-file search libQtWebKit│
[21:55] <mattfly> .so.4                                                              │
[21:55] <mattfly> libqtwebkit4: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtWebKit.so.4           │
[21:55] <mattfly> libqtwebkit4: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtWebKit.so.4.10        │
[21:55] <mattfly> libqtwebkit4: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtWebKit.so.4.10.2
[21:55] <mattfly> sorry for the spam, the thing is i have the library but the program cant see it is there
[21:55] <mattfly> is it something to do with the path?
[21:56] <mattfly> how to fix this?
[21:56] <mezod> glitsj16: got it, it was the damned .sh in the file name
[21:56] <mezod> thanks for the help though :P
[21:57] <mattfly> anyone? :/
[21:57] <glitsj16> mezod: yeah, I was reading man run-parts and it suggested something along those lines, no prob, glad you got it sorted
[21:57] <brainwash> mattfly: ide32.. 32bit? then you need the 32bit variant of the library
[21:57] <oerheks> mattfly, "typhon-ide32"  sounds like a 32 bit app on a 64 bit system?
[21:57] <brainwash> oerheks: slow
[21:57] <mattfly> oh
[21:57] <mattfly> nice tip
[21:57] <oerheks> yeah, brainwash +1
[21:58] <mattfly> libqtwebkit for 32 bits
[21:58] <mattfly> what is it called?
[21:58] <brainwash> libqtwebkit4:i386
[21:58] <mattfly> thx
[21:59] <mattfly> ok i feel dumb now...
[21:59] <mattfly> I was not that newbie
[21:59] <mattfly> lol
[21:59] <mattfly> thanks anyway
[23:25] <Guy1524> hey guys, I have nvidia optimus on my laptop and recently my pc is stuck on intel mode, when I switch it back and reboot, it automatically goes back to intel mode
[23:28] <Guy1524> also in my lspci, this is what shows for my nvidia card, is it correct? 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1c8d (rev a1)
[23:32] <IronDev> Guy1524: see if this is helpful https://askubuntu.com/questions/451335/cant-switch-anymore-from-intel-to-nvidia-gpu
[23:42] <foo74> Does anyone know if Ubuntu proper distro will be released as part of Beta 1 wave?
[23:45] <arahael> The "Ubuntu proper distro"?  Wasn't that released a decade ago?
[23:45] <foo74> Ubuntu (non flavored), how's that
[23:46] <nacc> foo74: your question is more appropraite for #ubuntu+1 or even #ubuntu-devel. I would expect stock ubuntu to take part in all alphas, betas, but I don't know that for a fact
[23:48] <arahael> I'm still not sure what foo74 means.
[23:48] <nacc> arahael: they mean Ubuntu, not (e.g.) Ubuntu Gnome, Kubuntu, Xubuntu
[23:49] <foo74> ok, thank you nacc
[23:50] <arahael> nacc: Right, that's been released ages ago.  WE surely have newer versions, though, but the distro itself is already out there.
[23:51] <nacc> arahael: uh, what do you mean "ages ago"? Ubuntu releases every 6 months.
[23:51] <nacc> arahael: they are asking about the current images of 17.10
[23:52] <arahael> nacc: Otherwise the question becomes: "Will a new version of Ubuntu be released when a new version of Ubuntu is released"?
[23:52] <nacc> arahael: no, it's not, I think you misunderstood the question
[23:52] <nacc> arahael: perhaps you are confusinng 'proper' and 'precise'
[23:52] <nacc> arahael: one is an adjective generally, the other happens to also be a codename for 12.04
[23:52] <arahael> Ah, so the question was rather: "Will the  Beta1 become a proper release"?
[23:53] <nacc> arahael: no, the question was will the unflavored Ubuntu be participating in Beta1
[23:54] <arahael> nacc: Ah, maybe indeed, the 'precise' and 'proper' names were confused.