[16:38] <Guest43790> Hello everybody
[17:54] <lsmith_> first time install, on r-pi
[17:54] <lsmith_> default browser Firefox crashes on run, even after update/upgrade
[18:07] <Thomas_123> Hello all, are there other IRC Channels for Ubuntu or Linux in general where one could join and follow along and maybe learn from?
[18:08] <diogenes_> official ubuntu channel
[18:09] <lsmith_> wondering, anyone else have a failed firefox install on fresh install to raspberry pi?
[18:09] <Thomas_123> diogenes_, thank you.
[18:09] <diogenes_> yw
[18:10] <lsmith_> is my chat visible?
[18:10] <Akuli> yes lsmith_
[18:10] <Akuli> Thomas_123, there's also ##linux
[18:10] <lsmith_> ok, thanks for that,
[18:10] <Thomas_123> Akuli, Thank you.
[18:10] <Akuli> lsmith_, how did it fail? just doesn't run when you try to start it?
[18:13] <lsmith_> crashes immediately on start
[18:13] <Akuli> run it from terminal
[18:13] <lsmith_> start of browser.
[18:13] <lsmith_> kk
[18:13] <Akuli> press ctrl+alt+t, type firefox, press enter
[18:13] <Akuli> does it display anything on the terminal?
[18:14] <lsmith_> ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 1904
[18:14] <lsmith_> ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child
[18:14] <lsmith_> ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal...
[18:14] <lsmith_> then crash window pops up.
[18:14] <Akuli> this doesn't seem like a problem with ubuntu mate
[18:14] <lsmith_> this is on Ubuntu mate
[18:14] <Akuli> yes, but seems to be firefox's fault
[18:15] <Akuli> you could figure out where you're supposed to report firefox bugs
[18:15] <lsmith_> ok fair enough.  Ill try and put chrome onto it
[18:15] <Akuli> chromium will actually work
[18:15] <lsmith_> the bug autoreported.
[18:15] <Akuli> ok
[18:15] <Akuli> run this on terminal:   sudo apt install chromium
[18:15] <lsmith_> so, apt-get install chromium  ?
[18:15] <Akuli> afaik full chrome isn't available on raspberry pi
[18:16] <Akuli> yes
[18:16] <lsmith_> Package chromium is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[18:16] <lsmith_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[18:16] <lsmith_> is only available from another source
[18:16] <lsmith_> However the following packages replace it:
[18:16] <lsmith_>   chromium-bsu
[18:16] <lsmith_> E: Package 'chromium' has no installation candidate
[18:16] <lsmith_> so then the bsu one...
[18:17] <diogenes_> bsu is a game
[18:17] <diogenes_> not a browser
[18:17] <lsmith_> :/   hmmm
[18:18] <lsmith_> catch 22, i'll go google up the right package from another omputer.
[18:18] <lsmith_> ah-ha!  chromium-browser
[18:19] <lsmith_> thanks for the tip then... I could have tried to browse with a game all morning.  :)
[18:20] <diogenes_> lol
[18:20] <diogenes_> lsmith_, you could also try Epiphany, Iceweasel and Midori
[18:21] <lsmith_> Iceweasel sounds like my kinda browser.
[18:21] <lsmith_> fire?  fox?  I get it....
[18:22] <diogenes_> icewessel is a debia rebrading of firefox so you could try it
[18:22] <lsmith_> first day in Unbuntu, heady times.
[18:22] <diogenes_> try all of then and see which one you like best
[18:23] <lsmith_> well, chromuim works.  I'll message the maintainer of the r-pi packaging, FireFox may not be the best one to go with.
[18:23] <lsmith_> least it's not Edge!!!
[18:23] <diogenes_> haha
[18:23] <lsmith_> I'd rather have firefox that crashes, than edge that works.
[18:24] <diogenes_> agree
[18:24] <lsmith_> well thanks guys/gals.  I'm off to the races.
[18:24] <diogenes_> yw
[18:27] <Thomas_123> lsmith_, have a great day.
[18:30] <Thomas_123> If we create a windows vm using virtualbox on one machine and move or clone it to another machine does it cause issues with the vm? I have moved a vm from one install to another on the same machine without issue but curious if it breaks down moving it to a new machine.
[18:30] <Akuli> i have never tried it but i don't see why it would break
[18:35] <Thomas_123> Akuli, I was just curious as switching of hardware can cause a normal windows machine issues but was thinking in a vm, the hardware would stay the same. I just made the switch to linux as my daily driver about two weeks ago. I have really only my password manager in windows I am still getting data moved over from.
[18:36] <Thomas_123> Akuli, It is still nice having the ability to jump into a windows vm and run a program like xnview for example. Had to convert and resize a jump drive of images the other day and was a little lost. Tried the linux version of xnview but it was slow and seemed to be missing stuff.
[18:37] <Thomas_123> Akuli, imagamagick looks great but need to learn how it works before taking on anything to big with it.
[18:38] <Akuli> at least you won't run out of features with imagemagick
[18:39] <Thomas_123> Akuli, no I really look forward to learning to use it properly.
[18:40] <Akuli> gui or command-line?
[18:40] <Thomas_123> Akuli, if though winxp and win8.1 boot in like 12sec or less in vm I really don't care to use it unless I really need it.
[18:40] <Thomas_123> Akuli, Is there a gui for imagemagick?
[18:41] <Akuli> it has a thingy i guess you could call a gui
[18:41] <Akuli> i have never tried to use it, seems weird to me
[18:41] <Thomas_123> Akuli, I am thinking just learn to write scripts for it will be best.
[18:41] <Akuli> ok :)
[18:42] <Thomas_123> Akuli, Started going through a lot of tutorials on gimp and inkscape and so happy to dump adobe.
[18:42] <Akuli> i don't need imagemagick often but when i do need it it's nice to have something with a command-line interface
[18:44] <Thomas_123> Akuli, I think that learning to get the mindset of using the commandline when possible over a gui is something I am working on. Even though I started with computers with dos, windows has somewhat changed my approach to getting things done.
[18:45] <Thomas_123> Akuli, I have loved using the terminal so far in linux and am starting to see the benefits of it over always looks for a gui program to get something done.
[19:28] <nik_> Hi who's up?
[20:17] <nik_> Hi, who's up?
[20:17] <nik_> Seems a dead room to me
[20:18] <diogenes_> nik_, welcome to the black pearl
[20:18] <nik_> Yoooooooooooo
[20:18] <nik_> What's the black pearl???
[20:19] <diogenes_> ghost pirate ship
[20:19] <nik_> OMG
[20:19] <nik_> Really where are the ghostss?
[20:20] <diogenes_> don't ask, it's dangerous
[20:21] <ouroumov_> We're here
[20:22] <nik_> Glad to be here then >:D<
[20:29] <flexiondotorg>  https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-artful-beta1/
[20:50] <Gallomimia> what kind of craziness have i heard about in the last few months? i've been offline and away from ubuntu-mate for a long time
[20:57] <ouroumov_> Gallomimia, what crazyness in particular?
[20:58] <Gallomimia> well for now i'll ride right over the part that is systemd discussion, but i'm interested to know what it means that ubuntu vanilla is adopting gnome3
[20:59] <ouroumov_> Meh, that's not an Ubuntu MATE problem, and boy indeed you've been away for a while. Are you aware Ubuntu Phone is dead too?
[21:00] <ouroumov_> I'm gonna sleep, good night.
[21:01] <Gallomimia> ah. sort of....
[21:01] <Gallomimia> g'night. its late there eh? here's its 2pm
[21:03] <ouroumov_> 11PM in France, gotta get up at 5. ^^
[21:04] <ouroumov_> You can check out the release notes for the various releases if you want to catch up on the evolution of Ubuntu MATE
[21:04] <ouroumov_> Cheers
[21:48] <mate|76750> is there a website maintainer in here? if so the link for the beta torrent is wrong
[21:54] <flexiondotorg> mate|76750: Thanks. Fixing now.
[21:55] <flexiondotorg> mate|76750: The magnet links should be good though.
[21:56] <mate|76750> i figured out which it should be so i used the normal one :)