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IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRolnDbTwDo08:35
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @acheronuk, kool08:42
acheronukupdated the beta 1 notes a bit09:17
acheronukhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/Beta1/Kubuntu#Other_highlights.2Fnotes09:17
acheronukplease check09:17
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Looks like Canonical have installed an SSL cert on kubuntu.org12:47
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Need to fix the non-https stuff12:48
clivejoahoneybun: is the kubuntu theme somewhere on LP bzr or git?15:32
clivejohttps://code.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website15:33
valorieacheronuk: thanks so much for those updates20:37
valoriethat actually rates a kubuntu.org story, I think?20:37
clivejorates?20:39
clivejoanyone know how we make changes to the kubuntu.org theme?20:40
clivejothe online editor seems to be disabled20:40
valoriehmmmm20:46
valorieI hate wordpress20:46
valorieso dunno20:46
valorieahoneybun?20:46
clivejoI hate how locked down this one is20:46
valorieI think ovi knows as well20:46
valoriewell, open it up!20:46
valorieit's ours20:47
valoriewe can do as we like, surely?20:47
clivejoOvi is on a romantic get away and not to be disturbed!20:47
valorieaha20:47
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Locked down?20:47
clivejoyeah, can't edit the theme, can't even update the plugins20:48
clivejoor install new Wordpress versions20:48
clivejowhy can't the theme be kept in LP git?20:48
clivejoits only a tiny tweak to use https instead of http20:49
clivejoso that browsers keep the green padlock20:49
valorieis that something we have to request via RT?20:50
valorieif so, ick20:50
clivejooh, that bug report isn't the issue20:50
valorieand perhaps we should then ask them if we can keep the theme in LP git20:50
clivejothe main page has those two URL's and it is fine20:51
clivejomust be something else20:51
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> The theme is on ovis githun20:52
clivejoah, its the form call20:56
clivejo<form id="14.04.5download" class="form_download" action="http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04.5/release/kubuntu-14.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso" method="get">20:56
clivejooh great cdimage.ubuntu.com hasn't got https20:57
clivejothat's useful20:57
clivejoahoneybun: you reckon RT would install cert on there?20:58
acheronukhttps breaks zsync21:00
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> That might be why21:01
clivejoyou don't have to use it21:06
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Use zsync?21:06
clivejono https21:06
clivejolots of sites use both21:06
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> You want https on cdimage?21:07
acheronukthe don't 'have' to have https either21:07
acheronukbut having it would create lots of broken zsync links, which people would get by default if they don't know better21:07
acheronukclivejo: why is https wanted?21:08
clivejohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/171444621:08
clivejothe download page uses a form to figure out the link the visitor needs21:09
clivejochrome sees that as insecure and degrades the page to insecure21:09
acheronukso what?21:09
* clivejo shrugs21:10
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> People worry about no https21:11
* acheronuk forgets we have to cater for stupid people!21:12
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Not really stupid just paranoid21:12
acheronuksame thing in many cases21:12
valorieI wouldn't use a bank website without https21:14
clivejoall major distro's have secure websites, these days https://www.linuxmint.com https://neon.kde.org https://www.debian.org https://www.centos.org https://www.redhat.com even https://www.ubuntu.com21:15
valorieor anyone who wanted/needed personal info21:15
clivejoit's the way things are going21:15
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> We do have https it's canonial from the looks of it21:15
clivejoand people do take note of it, hence the BR21:16
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> https://www.simple.com21:16
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Email rt@ubuntu.com I think about it21:17
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Or is it canonical mm21:17
acheronukmate just uses links to http cdimage in their download page with no issue21:17
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @acheronuk, So does Lubuntu21:18
clivejoI just noticed that we seem to be the only one without a https link on https://distrowatch.com/21:18
acheronukmaking canonical switch and break stuff to fix an issue on our DL page we should be fixing seems OTT21:18
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> It's not ours21:18
clivejoI like the way Mate do it21:24
clivejousing <a> links21:25
clivejoalso have the beta 1 available21:26
valorieoh nice21:29
clivejoanyone have issues with me replacing the <form>'s with plain <a> links?21:39
clivejowon't look as pretty :(21:40
valoriewhatever works best21:44
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> You can style a tags...21:45
clivejohttps://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/21:56
valorieok folks, I'm going to go afk for days21:56
valoriemight have some telegram, possibly21:56
clivejolast entry for 14.04.5 LTS21:56
valorieciao, and see you Monday21:56
clivejovalorie: can you check that out?21:57
valorielooks great!21:57
valoriein Chrome21:57
clivejomaybe someone else can make it pretty21:58
clivejohappy, to do all the version on the page the same?21:58
clivejomaybe when Ovi is back we can look into doing something like Mint does21:59
clivejohttps://kubuntu.org/support/ looks like the IRC webclient is injecting insecure content too22:34
clivejoscorecardresearch.com22:35
clivejosounds like tracking :/22:35
clivejo ScorecardResearch conducts research by collecting Internet web browsing data and then uses that data to help show how people use the Internet, what they like about it, and what they don’t.22:38
clivejoI would suggest that be changed to less invasive service such as https://webchat.freenode.net/?randomnick=1&channels=%23kubuntu&prompt=1&uio=d422:39
clivejoits also on the https://kubuntu.org/kubuntu-podcast/ page22:40

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