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[05:22] <tgBot> <Jose Barakat> How to port to tablet Acer Iconia B1-710?
 @jackmi95, https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/UBports-Development-Information
[05:35] <greybrd> is there a way to install ubuntu touch in Moto X Play ( xt 1562 ) anyone who can help me out?
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[06:18] <tgBot> <Big ET> @ubports_bot, does this build uses halium?
 @Big ET, No dont think so. There is currently no working halium build in your build chain
 @jackmi95, If devices would follow a standard then such a guide would exist. But currently the complete guide is: Find a Lineage that works for your device, build a tree with it. Fix all friggn compile issues until you get clean boot img and system img. Use rootstock to push all stuff to the device, then pray. In most cases days and days will pass until you even get adb to work, let alone graphics. Sorry, thats the guide
 😂😂😂
 @greybrd, No you need to make a port for this, there is no simple installer available for new devices
 @Flohack, As unfortunate as this is, I really liked the straightforward and real case explanation. Gives some context and perspective to just some of the difficulties faced.
 @Schyken, I already wanted to make live porting via YouTube but its some hours until the sources have downloaded etc ;)
 But as I have to set up a virtual build machine I will reconsider it
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 @Flohack, Would be interesting too watch
 @Flohack, You coul record it without the delay times.
 @Flohack, I may have bought a mic. Do you have the video structure you want to use?
 Part of my work on the Halium docs was also a possible Halium video series.
 I get a white screen when opening Telegram 2.4.41.1 on Legacy (Pro 5). Some ideas, how i can fix this?
 I heared @Flohack is going to upload a new release soon, where such fix is included, I think.
 @Christof, try to delete .config/com.ubuntu.telegram folder completly
 works. thank you so much!
 You are unlucky guy, we fixed this issue yesterday
 It would have been in the next update
 Huh update for Telegram? Yess! coming this weekend
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/8Gxkdkiv/file_332.mp4
 I flashseado my nexus 5 with the 16.04 and when I put the key to enter, it gives me an error and I can not log in. Normal?
 yes
 I think so @neothethird ?
 Did you look at the wiki page with all of the warnings telling you that 16.04 is not working? https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/How-to-install-Ubuntu-Touch-16.04
 @geminis65
 It was only to see how it is inside, since it is not yet operational
 The information to log in is there as well.
 Flaseandolo on the rc or devel 15.04 does not work?
 @geminis65, yep
 Translators! Find this new project for giving it much love! https://translate.ubports.com/translate/dekko/ubuntu-ui-plugin
 \o/
 https://translate.ubports.com/projects/dekko/ubuntu-ui-plugin/ for those not logged in 😆
 ui damn
 @DanChapman, Dan, about the context of "coming soon" it's about "coming son new features or something that it's about to end with success?
 Yes I also wanted to ask
 that's for new features. They are just placeholders atm
 3 times I found coming soon
 Ok ^^
 perfect
 👍
 Is anybody here using pyotherside in their apps?
 here
 https://github.com/delijati/fosdem-qml
 i looked into https://github.com/tim-sueberkrueb/ubuntu-hangups to get it running
 Cool! (more people should use it) anyway, i compiled today the latest release 1.5.1 for 15.04. So if you want the latest armhf binaries for your app you can grab them from the "prebuilt" folder here https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/pyotherside
 ahh thanks
 yeah right i think to build apps its the best combination qml + python ...
 python certainly is easier for some stuff. 😊
 another answer Dan, by Zip, in contact view you mean zip postal code?
 question*
 😂
 oh good question. I'd presume so.
[19:12] <tgBot> * DanChapman looks
 @DanChapman two year ago at the fosdem they recomended to add the libpython also to the click apps .. but i thinks its not really nessesary as libpython is already included ... i know it would break the selb containing app principle but it would make the apps much smaller in size
 @j2g2rp yeah zip as in postal code
 👍 perfect
 @delijati yeah there's really no point. The python stdlib etc is already shipped on the devices same as the Qt libraries. So I don't see how it's really any different to a pure Qt/C++ app. There always used to be the "we don't guarantee it will remain in the image" but it never went anywhere 😃
 would be nice to get pyotherside into the image.
 @DanChapman, my snakeish is so bad. hoping some c++ guru could make the nodejs qt libraries working
[19:23] <tgBot> Mathieu was added by: Mathieu
 Hello, with this page (https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/How-to-install-Ubuntu-Touch-16.04) i try to install 16.04 in my N5 but in the result, the N5 reboot all the time afer the Google's Logo. And if i try to go in the recovery, it isn't possible, the N5 reboot. One solution ?
 At which stage did this happen?
 Which steps was ok in the guide?
 @DanChapman how is this solved with snaps? Are they any smarter or at least helping to collect the needed dependencies
 @delijati Hah well with snaps python3 is shipped in the core snap so that's guaranteed to remain there and is available in the confined snap environment. I make use of it in the dekko snap and it works fine 😊
 so snaps are really solving all our problems ;)
 Thanks for telgram
 @Flohack all the steps are ok but when N5 restarts it was normal. I put the country, the time zone but after when I wanted to do a reboot, the N5 reboot
 does anyone know how long ubuntu is going to support the ubuntu-ui-toolkit or they also droped it with the whole utouch
 i think yunit are going to maintain it for the forseeable. until an alternative comes along i suppose
 the only currently maintained qml widget toolkit seams to be https://github.com/lirios/fluid
 @delijati, yay someone else using qbs! i ❤️ qbs
 Kirigami is not exactly a widget toolkit, but it's also a replacement for Ubuntu ui toolkit in combination with QtQuickCobtrols 2
 @Mathieu, Ok no idea then
 But 16.04 is not really usable
 So congratulations to seeing the setup screen ;)
 https://github.com/ubports/telegram-app/releases/tag/v2.4.42
 @Flohack hey,  can i send you a pm to make you a question about translations?
 @Flohack thanks for the upgrade 😀
 @Flohack what's the license for the app?
 I don't find the license on the repository
 ok I see within the code... several references to the GPL
 but I think it would be better to include it as a file to make it more clear and simple to find
 anyway thanks for all the work
[20:42] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @Flohack thanks for Telegram update, 😊
 @j2g2rp, sure
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/MqMnVyEY/file_333.mp4
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 @Flohack thanks for the telegram update. Supergroups are not supported unfortunately. Is there any chance to get them?
 Soon™
 Or maybe it's, every time someone asks it gets latet
 @UniversalSuperBox can you elaborate what are the technical dificulties?
 there is no info https://github.com/ubports/telegram-app/issues/6 in that ticket
 If supergroups aren't supported, does that mean if I bought an UBports phone right now, I couldn't view this group?
[21:44] <tgBot> sorcier777 was added by: sorcier777
 Hi everybody. Before I intoduce myself more I just wanted to check that the Nexus 5 (like d820) is the best choice for use and developpement. (I am a 22 years old IT student and could maybe participate to the project)
 @bastos777, This is the last update BEFORE supergroups I promise ^^
 @blendergeek0, yes and no, you can use the webapp
 @sorcier777, Yes it is, Welcome !
 @delijati, I wont elaborate unless you want me throw up for the rest of the day
 @Flohack jsut some details ;)
 1,5 years behind current Tg protocol. Canonical never updated it
 @Kévin, Thanks, so I'll order one tomorrow
 @Flohack you mean Aseman-Land/libqtelegram-aseman-edition …  ?
 yes which was forked for UT
 but they froze the fork
 One last (maybe stupid) question :  is it something like debian based like Ubuntu or a clone of Ubuntu ported  phone ?
 Because they could not keep up with the pace of Telegram
 @sorcier777, Where do you order it? there are no devices that can be ordered. You have to hunt them down as used and old ^^
 @sorcier777, It uses same package sources as desktop Ubuntu but with a lot of modifications at some points
 @Flohack, Well, a Nexus five indeed
 @sorcier777, where do you get it from?
 Maybe trying to get one from China on ebay or a used one
 @Flohack, Sorry, for missing the reply button, last post
 @Flohack, Okay that's grate, it means I can write even like C code and not some Java **** ?
 Okay I tired (never wrote "great" as "grate" in my life. I'm french by the way)
 So quiet here, I'm going to sleep. Bye
 Maybe I'll try with the chineses on ebay (371887454271 … )
 ^^
 @sorcier777, Yes most Apps are in C++ / QML
 But this is the real problem, they are to a certain degree bound to the underlying system. So when we upgrade to a new release all Apps must follow. And thats the good thing about Android apps
 @Flohack, Yes, this is the real problem but dealing whith a "Garbage Collector" is even worst in certain cases
 @sorcier777, Oh Im .net programmer for my day job and I can tell you it has more advantages
 Too many people cant code reliably with pointers
 @Flohack, Yes, debugging large applications is nealy impossible with average developpers, that is why Java things where created
 Every argument with "you get performance issues with GC" are edge cases
 Cool the last Telegram version was download 1200 times. Thank you all!
 So we are aiming for 10k users 😆
 @Flohack, In fact It is more a memory limitation problem
 To which extent?
 @Flohack, Ok it's only a phone in this case, but I do more than consulting text messages in general
 Well, I think this bebat will go nowhere. I don't really code Java except when people ask me to do and I don't know all the possibitlities. I just don't make user friendly application but simple data/computation programms.
 So I prefer C/C++. But I admit Java is pretty cool when you want to do things let's say "we want something, you got people, do something"
 But an optimised cluster for real time applications (with simple computations) is not the same thing
 Gent on Devel, do you have problem with https certificate ?
 Okay, no more usless speach, good night :)
 Really need sleep