| duflu | Hold onto your hats. Ubuntu 17.10 is now just days behind the latest Gnome Shell code | 01:48 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 05:02 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ didrocks | 05:04 |
| didrocks | hey tsimonq2 | 05:04 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 05:50 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning didrocks tsimonq2 oSoMoN | 06:18 |
| didrocks | hey flexiondotorg, oSoMoN | 06:18 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ flexiondotorg and oSoMoN | 06:19 |
| oSoMoN | hey flexiondotorg, didrocks, tsimonq2 | 06:19 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:22 |
| seb128 | hey flexiondotorg tsimonq2 oSoMoN | 06:22 |
| seb128 | re didrocks | 06:22 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ seb128 | 06:22 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning seb128 | 06:23 |
| flexiondotorg | Who should I talk to about the nvidia proprietary driver packages? | 06:24 |
| flexiondotorg | They've regressed significantly between 17.10 Alpha 2 and Beta 1. | 06:25 |
| flexiondotorg | Prime simply doesn't work anymore. | 06:25 |
| flexiondotorg | I've had an investigate, got some info. | 06:26 |
| seb128 | flexiondotorg, talk to tseliot | 06:38 |
| flexiondotorg | ty | 06:38 |
| seb128 | yw | 06:38 |
| oSoMoN | good morning seb128 | 06:39 |
| tseliot | flexiondotorg: can you reproduce the problem and show me your /var/log/gpu-manager.log , please? | 07:13 |
| flexiondotorg | Sure. I've got a couple of meetings and then I'll do more tests. | 07:14 |
| flexiondotorg | The crux of the issue is it is impossible to enable prime. There are no options to enable the nvidia drivers. | 07:16 |
| flexiondotorg | tseliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25443451/ | 07:30 |
| flexiondotorg | That is what is in /var/log/gpu-manager.log. | 07:31 |
| flexiondotorg | I've just installed updates and there was an update for nvidia-375, so I'm going to reboot and see if anything has changed. | 07:31 |
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| flexiondotorg | I did see this while updating | 07:32 |
| flexiondotorg | Setting up nvidia-375 (375.82-0ubuntu3) ... | 07:33 |
| flexiondotorg | dpkg: error: version '-' has bad syntax: revision number is empty | 07:33 |
| flexiondotorg | INFO:Enable nvidia-375 | 07:33 |
| flexiondotorg | DEBUG:Parsing /usr/share/ubuntu-drivers-common/quirks/put_your_quirks_here | 07:33 |
| flexiondotorg | DEBUG:Parsing /usr/share/ubuntu-drivers-common/quirks/dell_latitude | 07:33 |
| flexiondotorg | DEBUG:Parsing /usr/share/ubuntu-drivers-common/quirks/lenovo_thinkpad | 07:33 |
| flexiondotorg | Loading new nvidia-375-375.82 DKMS files... | 07:33 |
| flexiondotorg | Building for 4.12.0-11-generic | 07:33 |
| flexiondotorg | Building for architecture x86_64 | 07:33 |
| flexiondotorg | Building initial module for 4.12.0-11-generic | 07:33 |
| flexiondotorg | Done. | 07:33 |
| tseliot | flexiondotorg: the nvidia module doesn't seem to be loaded. Also, I don't see your nvidia card in the system (did you disable it from the BIOS?) | 07:34 |
| flexiondotorg | No. I have an nvidia 1080 Ti in a Razer Core connected via Thunderbolt 3. | 07:35 |
| alexarnaud | good morning all :)! | 07:35 |
| oSoMoN | good morning alexarnaud | 07:36 |
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| flexiondotorg | tseliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25443484/ | 07:42 |
| flexiondotorg | After update and reboot. | 07:42 |
| tseliot | flexiondotorg: what does your new /var/log/gpu-manager.log look like? | 07:43 |
| flexiondotorg | nvidia-settings is now offering the choice of Intel or Nvidia | 07:44 |
| flexiondotorg | tseliot: Here is the new gpu-manager.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/25443490/ | 07:45 |
| flexiondotorg | So the last update has appeared to resolved the issue I encountered yesterday. | 07:47 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: hey, have you pushed the new ambiance gtk theme btw? | 07:50 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: I don't see any review on https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/better-destructive-action/+merge/329392, correct? | 07:50 |
| flexiondotorg | didrocks: I'm going to rebase it today. | 07:50 |
| didrocks | flexiondotorg: nice! so all pending branches will be reviewed and package pushed by EOD? \o/ | 07:51 |
| flexiondotorg | I will try. | 07:51 |
| flexiondotorg | I've only got my spare time to work on this. | 07:52 |
| tseliot | flexiondotorg: it looks the same, with nvidia being disabled. If that works, then it's all good | 07:53 |
| flexiondotorg | Yeah, I was able to select nvidia log out/in and all working. | 07:58 |
| tseliot | great | 07:59 |
| * Laney nods | 08:02 | |
| seb128 | hey Laney, happy friday | 08:12 |
| Laney | hey seb128, happy friday to you! | 08:14 |
| Laney | are you well? | 08:14 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:15 |
| didrocks | happy friday Laney & davmor2 | 08:15 |
| seb128 | Laney, yes, looking forward getting some more sleep but I managed to get some work done yesterday before going to bed and had an not-too-late morning today so that might be a productive friday :-) | 08:15 |
| seb128 | Laney, you? | 08:15 |
| Laney | hey didrocks & davmor2! | 08:23 |
| Laney | seb128: tired too, looking forward to the weekend | 08:23 |
| Laney | we're supposed to be going to a river or lake or something to go wild swimming, should be fun | 08:24 |
| davmor2 | Hey Laney didrocks | 08:25 |
| seb128 | nice | 08:29 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: maybe you would know, the ubuntu font in G-S panel is quite blurry, as you worked on hdpi (but I'm only in 1x), is there any font hinting in the Shell that you know of? | 08:44 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: mh, no.... I guess it's because it has a slight shadow | 08:45 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: you can check it better by forcing it 2x | 08:45 |
| seb128 | oh, Trevinho is up | 08:45 |
| seb128 | good morning Trevinho :-) | 08:46 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: how can I do this? | 08:46 |
| Trevinho | hi seb128, yes :) | 08:46 |
| didrocks | just changing the font size by *2? | 08:46 |
| didrocks | I don't see any shadow that way | 08:46 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: mhmh.. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/03ExjSYA/ | 08:48 |
| Trevinho | there's shadow, but... might not be very well visible | 08:48 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: you have younger and better eyes than I do :p | 08:48 |
| didrocks | do you know how we can improve this? | 08:48 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: maybe younger, not sure if better :-D | 08:48 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: it's managed by theme | 08:49 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: is it a css property to disable it? | 08:49 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: rember the shell css is different :p | 08:49 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: as for magnifying all up, not sure if you can run gnome-shell nested there with GDK_SCALE=2.. | 08:49 |
| Trevinho | yeah, there's a theme node indeed | 08:49 |
| Trevinho | let me check which one | 08:49 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: here's where is loaded | 08:50 |
| Trevinho | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/EQFegTGS/ | 08:50 |
| Trevinho | so... text-shadows: manages it from StLabel | 08:50 |
| didrocks | ah nice! | 08:51 |
| didrocks | let me try to disable it only for the panel | 08:51 |
| oSoMoN | good morning popey, have you seen jd_strand's questions at https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/chromium-snap-doesnt-work-with-the-nvidia-proprietary-driver/1825/7 ? | 08:51 |
| oSoMoN | I wonder if there's an easy way for you to test with snapd 2.28 | 08:52 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: I guess this one | 08:52 |
| Trevinho | #panel .panel-button { | 08:52 |
| Trevinho | -natural-hpadding: 12px; | 08:52 |
| Trevinho | -minimum-hpadding: 6px; | 08:52 |
| Trevinho | font-weight: bold; | 08:52 |
| Trevinho | color: #eee; | 08:52 |
| Trevinho | text-shadow: 0px 0px 2px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.9); | 08:52 |
| Trevinho | transition-duration: 100ms; } | 08:52 |
| Trevinho | err. sorry for the flooding :| | 08:52 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: yeah, I was on that one | 08:52 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: just trying to see wha tother impacts it has | 08:52 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: and actuallllllllllyyyyyyyyyy no | 08:53 |
| didrocks | :p | 08:53 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: mh, it seems here too... mhmh | 08:53 |
| didrocks | let's apply globally first | 08:53 |
| didrocks | hum, no, something is overriding it | 08:54 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: might be more local yes | 08:54 |
| Trevinho | for example the 'overview' class manages the panel | 08:55 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: no, it's only #panel | 08:55 |
| didrocks | overview is the panel in overview mode | 08:55 |
| didrocks | #panel.solid .panel-button { | 08:57 |
| didrocks | I can at least change the color here :) | 08:57 |
| didrocks | but text-shadow is none | 08:57 |
| didrocks | are you sure the shadow is coming from only that property? | 08:57 |
| didrocks | (.solid is when you have a maximized app or any app touching the top panel) | 08:58 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: confirmed, there is no text-shadow applied to that node, so not that… | 08:59 |
| didrocks | just replace the text-shadow: none with an horrible color | 08:59 |
| didrocks | you will see it's applied | 08:59 |
| didrocks | so, the blur doesn't come from there | 09:00 |
| didrocks | and also way more blurry under wayland | 09:01 |
| didrocks | which is weird | 09:01 |
| didrocks | duflu: hey, any thoughts on this? (fonts is more blurry under wayland in the Shell panel) ^ | 09:01 |
| duflu | didrocks, I am burried in GDK madness. Can you give more hints as to what you mean? | 09:02 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, hey, I’ve got a build of 5.4.1 going in https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ubuntu/lo-stage/+packages | 09:02 |
| didrocks | duflu: so, wayland session, look at the panel font in the ubuntu session (like date/time entry) | 09:03 |
| didrocks | it's really blurry here | 09:03 |
| didrocks | not that much on X | 09:03 |
| duflu | Let me check X again | 09:03 |
| didrocks | (the blur is even more visible once we start attaching the gradient from our theme) | 09:04 |
| duflu | didrocks, Not sure I can see it but I had been suspecting parts of the panel fonts were blurry. That's either a different hinting mode, or lack of subpixel order information. We had the latter problem in Mir (DRM failed to provide it) so I guess X might have been guessing when it wasn't available | 09:06 |
| didrocks | duflu: let me take a screenshot with the new theme, I guess it's really visible there (so that you can confirm) | 09:08 |
| duflu | didrocks, Confirmed with screenshots - Wayland is missing subpixel info so is doing greyscale | 09:08 |
| duflu | which is of course a bit more blurry | 09:09 |
| duflu | I had to zoom into screenshots to see it | 09:09 |
| didrocks | duflu: ah, however, our decorators aren't that blurry, are we giving more font hintings? | 09:10 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: FYI ^ | 09:10 |
| * didrocks wonders why his current captures aren't in ~/Images | 09:10 | |
| duflu | didrocks, if ~/Pictures or whatever doesn't exist then they are in ~/ | 09:10 |
| didrocks | well, it's ~/Images in french | 09:11 |
| didrocks | (translated XDG path) | 09:11 |
| didrocks | and not in ~/ | 09:11 |
| didrocks | retrying | 09:11 |
| didrocks | duflu: Trevinho: http://imgur.com/a/I8klB | 09:11 |
| duflu | Subpixel rendering also seems to have slightly stronger hinting (less vertical blur) but might be in the same hinting level | 09:11 |
| didrocks | we can clearly see that the decoration is "fine", not the panel | 09:12 |
| didrocks | so, missing some hinting info in the Shell? | 09:12 |
| duflu | didrocks, I think hintint is probably not a contributor. But lack of subpixel definitely is (I can see in my own screenshots) | 09:13 |
| didrocks | duflu: I don't get how the decoration, with the same font size (I think?) is giving a different result | 09:13 |
| duflu | didrocks, different subpixel order enum passed into the font rendering functions | 09:14 |
| didrocks | ah, that makes sense, so different treatment | 09:14 |
| duflu | It's blurry on gdm too | 09:14 |
| didrocks | yeah, gdm is actually the Shell | 09:14 |
| didrocks | (same panel, different css class) | 09:14 |
| didrocks | I guess there is no quick way for us to fix this, correct? | 09:15 |
| duflu | didrocks, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645433 | 09:16 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 645433 in general "gnome-shell's panel ignores font settings" [Normal,New] | 09:16 |
| duflu | It's had a patch waiting since 2012 :) | 09:19 |
| didrocks | duflu: I quickly skimmed through it, but yeah, that matches what you were telling | 09:19 |
| didrocks | duflu: unsure the patch fixes it with the followup comments | 09:19 |
| duflu | That's OK. So long as it's still an open bug | 09:19 |
| didrocks | the patch landed | 09:19 |
| didrocks | though | 09:19 |
| didrocks | in 3.6 | 09:19 |
| didrocks | yeah, it doesn't respect it anymore under wayland, I guess https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1411272 is the good reference | 09:24 |
| ubot5 | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1411272 in gnome-shell "gnome-shell doesn't respect hinting settings under Wayland" [Unspecified,New] | 09:24 |
| duflu | didrocks, yes seems like the right bug. Where "hinting" means "hinting and subpixel order" | 09:25 |
| duflu | The extra vertical blur suggests the hinting is different | 09:26 |
| didrocks | duflu: I bet this is quite involved in term of changes and will take time? (I created a trello card anyway so that we can keep an eye on it) | 09:26 |
| didrocks | unfortunately, I find it very glaring with the new theme | 09:26 |
| didrocks | (due to the gradient I guess) | 09:27 |
| duflu | didrocks, yes I was mostly subconsciously irritated by it. Don't see why it should be a big bug though... most of the code should be common between X and Wayland there. Font rendering is almost always done with software blitting | 09:28 |
| duflu | I mean I don't see why it should be too hard to fix, but maybe it is | 09:28 |
| didrocks | duflu: ah, if you are hopeful about it and think you can tackle it before release, that's awesome! | 09:29 |
| didrocks | Let me log it as a launchpad bug, I think we'll get people refering to it once I land the new theme | 09:29 |
| duflu | I hope to have the time in future | 09:29 |
| didrocks | let me target it against gnome-shell, then you can retarget where it fits better (wayland or mutter) | 09:29 |
| duflu | didrocks, actually there's an old bug I found back in May. You might want to close that and use your new one... | 09:30 |
| duflu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/893859 | 09:31 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 893859 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell doesn't support subpixel smoothing" [Medium,Incomplete] | 09:31 |
| didrocks | duflu: which one do you prefer? I can reuse and change the description of the old one if you prefer it that way | 09:31 |
| duflu | didrocks, I think the old bugs are too old (they don't cover the fact that it works in Xorg) | 09:32 |
| didrocks | duflu: ok, let's close the old one. | 09:32 |
| duflu | Use a new LP bug and the redhat one | 09:32 |
| didrocks | duflu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1714459 | 09:34 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1714459 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Shell panel font is blurry under wayland" [Undecided,New] | 09:34 |
| duflu | Fun fun | 09:34 |
| didrocks | thanks a lot for looking at it duflu :) | 09:34 |
| didrocks | (and giving me hints I'm not crazy and my eyes still worth something :p) | 09:35 |
| duflu | didrocks, no problem. Yes it annoyed me too | 09:35 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: mh, not sure then... For sure there's some shadow in the git version I'm using | 09:37 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: look above ^ it's another kind of issues | 09:38 |
| didrocks | not wanted "shadow" at least ;) | 09:38 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: ack, I saw that now | 09:39 |
| duflu | I'm done | 09:51 |
| duflu | Catch you next week | 09:51 |
| popey | oSoMoN: replied to that thread with the data I have.. | 10:12 |
| fossfreedom | Laney, thanks for your suggestions - I've reworked the two patches; any chance you can pass your eyes over again please ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop3/+bug/1703690 | 10:36 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1703690 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu) "Add support for Budgie Desktop using GNOME Screensaver" [Undecided,In progress] | 10:36 |
| Laney | fossfreedom: hopefully later on, have to look at tseliot's patch too but some other things to do first :( | 10:41 |
| oSoMoN | popey, thanks | 10:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1714330 is the multilogin segfault session backtrace | 10:49 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1714330 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in on_crtc_flipped() from g_closure_invoke() from invoke_flip_closure() from page_flip_handler() from drmHandleEvent()" [Medium,Confirmed] | 10:49 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ^ | 10:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: thx! | 10:49 |
| seb128 | yw | 10:49 |
| seb128 | the upstream bug pointed is fixed in git | 10:50 |
| seb128 | that's not the same report but might be worth testing with current git | 10:50 |
| didrocks | indeed. I won't today, but can add it to next week list | 10:51 |
| didrocks | (big set of patches) | 10:51 |
| seb128 | easier if jbicha makes a git snapshot | 10:51 |
| seb128 | or if we wait for the next tarballs | 10:51 |
| didrocks | yeah, .92 isn't far away | 10:52 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, hi, ack | 10:58 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, I assume there are no additional packaging changes compared to the current git tree? | 10:59 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, correct | 11:03 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, ok | 11:07 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hey | 11:13 |
| jbicha | good morning | 11:13 |
| seb128 | jbicha, when you do GNOME updates using meson, can you include a debian/rules snippet like I added to gnome-bluetooth? | 11:15 |
| seb128 | jbicha, | 11:15 |
| seb128 | override_dh_translations: | 11:15 |
| seb128 | ninja -C obj-$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) <domain>-pot | 11:15 |
| seb128 | dh_translations | 11:15 |
| jbicha | seb128: you want that for all of main, right? | 11:16 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I've on my todolist to look at the translation tools integration with the new build systems but it's not trivial and meanwhile the workaround would give us working langpacks | 11:16 |
| seb128 | jbicha, those using meson only, but yes | 11:16 |
| seb128 | you need to figure out the <domain> manually | 11:16 |
| jbicha | I just got us in sync with Debian on several packages ;) | 11:16 |
| seb128 | don't copy it like that, it's the actual domain | 11:16 |
| seb128 | jbicha, you can diff the pre-meson and new version see if there are strings changes | 11:17 |
| jbicha | I might push that in to Debian since I think an unrecognized override would just be ignored… | 11:17 |
| seb128 | if there are not no need to get the updated template | 11:17 |
| seb128 | k | 11:17 |
| seb128 | put a comment saying it's a temporary hack until dh_translations learn to deal with meson | 11:17 |
| jbicha | since they're getting most of GNOME 3.24 and 3.26 faster than expected, I'm hoping they won't mind | 11:18 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, what's the status of those 2 indicators gcc buildfix landing? | 11:18 |
| jbicha | seb128: do you have a goal of when you want those snippets added by? | 11:19 |
| seb128 | no | 11:20 |
| seb128 | I'm not even sure most projects got strings changes this cycle | 11:20 |
| seb128 | but would be nice to have them as we land 3.26 | 11:20 |
| jbicha | right and meson modules would be mostly likely to be doing 3.25.92 and 3.26 this time (since some modules skip releases) | 11:22 |
| seb128 | jbicha, if you can do to or include those changes when you do updates that would be useful | 11:23 |
| seb128 | jbicha, but let me know if you want me to look list and check which ones are needed | 11:24 |
| seb128 | that's a bit of work but maybe most have no string change | 11:24 |
| jbicha | sure, mostly done with Debian updates this week | 11:24 |
| jbicha | seb128: what about LP: #1688994 since that's not strictly meson? | 11:25 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1688994 in pkgbinarymangler (Ubuntu) "dh-translations: cannot build POT without intltool" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1688994 | 11:25 |
| seb128 | jbicha, it's on my todolist for a while, just didn't get to it yet | 11:26 |
| jbicha | meson projects don't use intltool but some other stuff doesn't use intltool either | 11:26 |
| jbicha | ok | 11:26 |
| seb128 | do you have an example or non-meson non-intltool? | 11:26 |
| jbicha | gnome-sudoku | 11:27 |
| seb128 | thanks | 11:27 |
| jbicha | btw, LP: #1631750 is a high priority bug for language support | 11:28 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1631750 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Language installation doesn't work in Ubuntu GNOME 16.10 Settings app" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1631750 | 11:28 |
| seb128 | right | 11:28 |
| jbicha | that broke when we updated to PackageKit1 last year | 11:28 |
| seb128 | still quite some work to do this cycle :-/ | 11:28 |
| jbicha | decision on trying to land a mutter git snapshot in artful or wait until later next week for next tarball release? | 11:30 |
| seb128 | I think it can wait next week | 11:30 |
| seb128 | but if you have the slots to do a snapshot that would be useful | 11:31 |
| seb128 | could avoid a few users to loose work by having their session closing | 11:31 |
| seb128 | if that actually fixes the segfault | 11:31 |
| jbicha | I guess the nice part about a snapshot is if we find any thing that still doesn't work, there are still a few days before 3.26 code freeze for those to get fixed | 11:33 |
| jbicha | too bad mutter isn't using meson yet because making tarballs with meson is pretty easy these days | 11:34 |
| seb128 | hehe | 11:40 |
| seb128 | jbicha, gnome-sudoko should be easy to fix for dh_translations, but unsure how common that case is | 11:41 |
| seb128 | it has a configure.ac with the gettext domain | 11:41 |
| seb128 | but most projects do | 11:41 |
| seb128 | GETTEXT_PACKAGE=<domain> | 11:41 |
| seb128 | AC_SUBST(GETTEXT_PACKAGE) | 11:41 |
| seb128 | where gnome-sudoku does | 11:41 |
| seb128 | AC_SUBST([GETTEXT_PACKAGE], [gnome-sudoku]) | 11:41 |
| seb128 | our parser does | 11:42 |
| seb128 | $domain = $1 if /^GETTEXT_PACKAGE\s*=\s*(\S*)/; | 11:42 |
| seb128 | so we can easily add a regexp for the other syntax | 11:42 |
| jbicha | that's sort of what happened with evolution except evolution is cmake and we don't do much cmake now? | 11:42 |
| seb128 | not really, we do cmake as well | 11:43 |
| seb128 | but evolution has the subst using a variable | 11:43 |
| seb128 | like $project_name or something | 11:43 |
| seb128 | and we don't do variables resolution | 11:43 |
| seb128 | that's too complex for our simple tool, we don't want to reimplement a build system parser :-) | 11:44 |
| jbicha | ok | 11:45 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, hey, did you see my ping earlier? | 12:02 |
| Trevinho | seb128: hey, no... sorry | 12:02 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, k, no worry, what's the status of the indicator build fixes landing? | 12:03 |
| Trevinho | seb128: indicators landing is fine for me, we need to publish it though.. | 12:03 |
| seb128 | that was my question | 12:03 |
| Trevinho | seb128: I've no powers for that | 12:03 |
| seb128 | then ping/ask on the channel! :-) | 12:04 |
| Trevinho | seb128: and dobey asked something in ubuntu-devel IIRC | 12:04 |
| seb128 | right, let's ignore that cleanup for now, it's not important | 12:04 |
| seb128 | I was just looking at the approved changes when we discussed doing a landing | 12:04 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ok, so feel free to publish it... Sorry I didn't pinged you about, I thought you were monitoring the silo :) | 12:05 |
| seb128 | no | 12:05 |
| seb128 | I don't even know what silo that is | 12:06 |
| seb128 | you said you would move them out of the silo that includes unity | 12:06 |
| Trevinho | https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2928 | 12:06 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:06 |
| Trevinho | I still have build issue in the unity side instead, but I need a porter box and RT was still working in a chroot... As I only see issues in some archs | 12:08 |
| seb128 | you are still waiting for access to a porter box? | 12:10 |
| Trevinho | seb128: I've the access, but not the right chroot to test it | 12:20 |
| seb128 | ah | 12:20 |
| jibel | didrocks, the app indicator is not always displayed, is it known? | 12:36 |
| jbicha | didrocks: mozjs52 is stuck in artful-proposed because I enabled mandatory build tests which fail on s390x so s390x doesn't build | 12:37 |
| jibel | didrocks, I mean I've 2 apps in this indicator and sometimes it's there, sometimes not | 12:37 |
| jbicha | we know that s390x doesn't work any way, how do you want to handle this? | 12:37 |
| jbicha | do I need to specific architectures in debian/control? | 12:37 |
| seb128 | jibel, you should ask Trevinho and not didrocks | 12:38 |
| seb128 | he's the one looking after the appindicators integration | 12:38 |
| seb128 | stop bouncing all issues to Didier please | 12:38 |
| jibel | sorry | 12:41 |
| jibel | Trevinho, then ^ | 12:41 |
| Trevinho | jibel: what are the apps? | 12:43 |
| jbicha | seb128: is there an LP bug for https://bugzilla.gnome.org/786978 ? | 12:44 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 786978 in plugins "The plugins notifications are displayed untranslated" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 12:44 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I don't think so, I noticed it myself and worked directly upstream | 12:44 |
| jibel | Trevinho, synology cloud client and hp systray | 12:45 |
| Trevinho | jibel: are they both qt apps, right? | 12:46 |
| jibel | Trevinho, hp is a qt app, I don't think synology is | 12:48 |
| jibel | Trevinho, cloud client is a gtk app | 12:49 |
| jibel | Trevinho, are there any log I could check? | 12:51 |
| kenvandine | i'm not getting any indicators either, i should have hexchat there | 12:51 |
| jibel | there is nothing in the journal regarding this extension | 12:51 |
| kenvandine | Trevinho, does it require indicator-application? | 12:53 |
| kenvandine | i don't have that installed | 12:53 |
| kenvandine | but i do have indicator-messages running | 12:53 |
| Trevinho | kenvandine: nope... the extension should do that | 12:53 |
| kenvandine | cool | 12:53 |
| Trevinho | I'm now working in fractional stuff, but I'll be back to that in next days,, | 12:54 |
| kenvandine | ok | 12:54 |
| kenvandine | damn, gnome-software is using all 4 cores :/ | 12:56 |
| seb128 | bah, the GNOME updates screwed suspend | 13:08 |
| seb128 | gnome-tweak-tool-lid-inhibtor stopped working it seems | 13:09 |
| seb128 | and the g-s extension to display a suspend button still lists it but it doesn't work | 13:09 |
| seb128 | jbicha, shouldn't that gnome-builder update require a ffe? | 13:10 |
| jbicha | it's unseeded universe so um I thought it didn't need a FFe | 13:11 |
| Laney | feature freeze applies to the whole archive | 13:11 |
| xnox | jbicha, if binaries are removed for s390x from artful-release; britney will stop considering a missing build as a regression and the package will become a valid candidate | 13:12 |
| jbicha | it was late because it split out 3 libraries which had to go through the Ubuntu or Debian new queues | 13:12 |
| seb128 | doesn't matter much why it's late, it's still a feature update after ffe :-) | 13:13 |
| seb128 | I'm +1 for the update btw, was looking at versions over lunch and I though it would be good to update | 13:13 |
| jbicha | the libraries were in the NEW queue weeks ago (before Feature Freeze) | 13:13 |
| jbicha | the bad part about the new version is that I disabled terminal because trying to hack it to work with our vte2.91 seemed too much | 13:14 |
| jbicha | so I'll file a FFe if I get that working then I guess | 13:14 |
| didrocks | jibel: you can check which extensions are enabled with alt + f2, "lg", then 3rd tab to ensure you have the extension on | 13:15 |
| didrocks | jibel: you can as well "show error logs" | 13:16 |
| jibel | didrocks, thanks it's loaded and no error | 13:18 |
| jibel | Trevinho, bug 1714504 | 13:18 |
| ubot5 | bug 1714504 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "App indicator is not always displayed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714504 | 13:18 |
| didrocks | jibel: ok, for Trevinho thus! | 13:18 |
| didrocks | :) | 13:18 |
| kenvandine | i guess the app indicator doesn't actually show stuff from the messaging indicator right? | 13:19 |
| kenvandine | which i think the legacy tray must have been doing | 13:19 |
| didrocks | yeah, it's only "appindicators" AFAIK | 13:19 |
| jbicha | didrocks: please remove mozjs52/s390x from artful-release per xnox's comment | 13:19 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey Ken, how are you? | 13:19 |
| kenvandine | that explains why hexchat isn't showing up there | 13:19 |
| kenvandine | seb128, hey, good and you? | 13:19 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I'm good thanks | 13:19 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, did we have new GNOME snaps that got published in the store this week? (for the desktop weekly news) | 13:20 |
| didrocks | jbicha: sorry, didn't see xnox's commenting on this right now? or do you mind, the old comment a week or so ago? | 13:20 |
| kenvandine | seb128, gnome-system-monitor | 13:20 |
| jbicha | didrocks: his comment about 8 minutes ago here | 13:20 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, did you get the autoconnect assertion done? | 13:20 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i also have branches for all the snaps that add the wayland interface, ready for snap 2.28 release | 13:20 |
| kenvandine | seb128, it has 2 votes | 13:20 |
| didrocks | jbicha: did you check rdepends? | 13:20 |
| kenvandine | but i don't think it's added yet | 13:21 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i've also tested all the snaps, they work with wayland | 13:21 |
| kenvandine | with a few tweaks :) | 13:21 |
| kenvandine | all in my branches | 13:21 |
| seb128 | great | 13:21 |
| kenvandine | i also cleaned up plugs, like some of them had home and network when they didn't really need them | 13:22 |
| jbicha | didrocks: yes the only rdepends is gjs which already had its s390x binaries removed | 13:22 |
| didrocks | jbicha: Could not find binaries for 'mozjs52/None' in artful . Exiting. | 13:22 |
| didrocks | abnd indeed, there is none | 13:22 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, i have an eog snap which has thumbnailer issues. I think it's failing to query the mime type | 13:22 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, have you seen any snap using desktop helpers that we know successfully queries the mime cache? | 13:23 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: no, I don't think this was ever tested | 13:23 |
| kenvandine | ok | 13:23 |
| kenvandine | i think i've found a bug, need to keep digging | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | it calls a function _can_thumbnail which requires a mimetype arg | 13:24 |
| jbicha | libmozjs-52-0 libmozjs52-dev libmozjs52-0-dbgsym libmozjs52-dev-dbgsym | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | which is NULL | 13:24 |
| oSoMoN | anyone interested in trying out the libreoffice snap, there's an update to 5.4.1 in the edge channel | 13:29 |
| oSoMoN | I'm not issuing a wider call for testing yet, as I have a few known issues to iron out first | 13:29 |
| oSoMoN | but it's already fairly usable it seems | 13:29 |
| oSoMoN | except on wayland where it crashes at startup, that is | 13:30 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, oh, good, I can include that in the weekly news :-) | 13:30 |
| seb128 | ah | 13:30 |
| didrocks | jbicha: the -dev is arch:all, so only the lib actually. Done | 13:34 |
| amano | jbicha, if we need a ffe for gnome builder, we will probably need one for gnome games at well... | 13:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, what sort of issues have the snap currently under wayland? | 13:38 |
| jbicha | amano: yes, would you be interested in filing that bug? | 13:38 |
| kenvandine | seb128, one of them needed opengl interface as well | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | the rest i just added the wayland interface | 13:39 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I was just wondering if the libreoffice crashes under wayland oSoMoN mentioned could be the same issue | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | could be | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, ^^ you might need to add opengl to the plugs | 13:40 |
| amano | Yup. Over the weekend. For the gnome games app, I guess... | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, and have you tested it with the wayland interface? which is in core from the edge channel? | 13:40 |
| * kenvandine installs it | 13:41 | |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, seb128: i see it does connect to wayland and opengl, so that's not the problem | 13:48 |
| kenvandine | and i can confirm it doesn't start for me with wayland :/ | 13:48 |
| didrocks | jbicha: there is a lot of people on the french forum who reports that Tweaks doesn't display the right status for mode enabled extensions | 13:57 |
| didrocks | jbicha: it displays them as being disabled | 13:57 |
| didrocks | I guess you should read the css file to see if they are loaded, and if the user disable them, add to the list of "disabled-extensions" which works with the Shell | 13:58 |
| didrocks | jbicha: basically, those guys are starting to make extensions like that: https://extensions.gnome.org/review/7279 (and I would prefer them to use Tweaks) | 14:01 |
| seb128 | baaaah | 14:02 |
| seb128 | gnome-shell stopped listing calendar events since the 3.25 updated here | 14:02 |
| seb128 | is anybody else having the same issue? | 14:02 |
| didrocks | oh correct | 14:03 |
| seb128 | :-/ | 14:03 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ^ known? | 14:04 |
| jbicha | gsettings get org.gnome.shell disabled-extensions | 14:07 |
| jbicha | No such key “disabled-extensions” | 14:07 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, kenvandine: I just tried an earlier build of the same snap (https://code.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+snap/libreoffice/+build/66888) and that one works under wayland | 14:07 |
| jbicha | GNOME Classic has the same issue with their extensions not showing up as On in Tweaks app | 14:07 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, ok, so some code change i guess | 14:08 |
| jbicha | didrocks: but it's actually a gnome-shell bug, try running gnome-shell-extension-prefs to see the same thing | 14:08 |
| oSoMoN | the next build in the list fails, and the actual changes to the branch are not meaningful, so I'm guessing a build dep or a stage package changed in the meantime | 14:08 |
| oSoMoN | I'll compare the build logs | 14:08 |
| didrocks | jbicha: well, you can detect it still, no? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | jbicha, didrocks, from the build log | 14:09 |
| seb128 | dh_install: Please use dh_missing --list-missing/--fail-missing instead | 14:09 |
| didrocks | jbicha: or you are using some external API and not the gsettings key? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | dh_install: This feature will be removed in compat 11. | 14:09 |
| seb128 | dh_missing: usr/${libdir}/gnome-shell/gnome-shell-calendar-server exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere | 14:09 |
| seb128 | jbicha, didrocks, we need --fail-missing :-) | 14:09 |
| didrocks | seb128: +1 | 14:09 |
| seb128 | dh_missing: usr/${libdir}/gnome-shell/gnome-shell-hotplug-sniffer exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere | 14:09 |
| seb128 | also | 14:09 |
| didrocks | I can turn it up in my next upload | 14:09 |
| didrocks | (monday?) | 14:09 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, i've confirmed it's the mime query that's breaking thumbnails | 14:09 |
| seb128 | well and some others | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | i have a branch of eog that hard codes the mimetype to "image/png" | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | and it works :) | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | so at least i know i'm on the right path | 14:10 |
| didrocks | jbicha: how Tweaks is detecting enabled extensions? | 14:10 |
| jbicha | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-tweak-tool/tree/gtweak/tweaks/tweak_group_shell_extensions.py | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | g_file_info_get_content_type is failing | 14:11 |
| jbicha | I didn't build Tweaks so I don't know | 14:11 |
| didrocks | well, you are the current maintainer, aren't you? | 14:12 |
| didrocks | ok, it's querying over dbus | 14:12 |
| jbicha | but I think it shares functionality with gnome-shell-extension-prefs | 14:12 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, seb128 : for reference https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1714520 | 14:13 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1714520 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] libreoffice 5.4.x snap crashes at startup on wayland" [High,Triaged] | 14:13 |
| didrocks | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-tweak-tool/tree/gtweak/gshellwrapper.py | 14:13 |
| didrocks | yep | 14:13 |
| didrocks | ok, I'll try to fix it there then | 14:13 |
| jbicha | ask Red Hat to send you a bonus check if you fix it (since RHEL ships both GNOME Classic and Tweak Tool by default) ;) | 14:14 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 14:15 |
| seb128 | jbicha, didrocks, also | 14:15 |
| didrocks | actually, they don't expose the "enabled" state | 14:15 |
| seb128 | /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.Shell.CalendarServer.service:Exec=/usr/${libdir}/gnome-shell/gnome-shell-calendar-server | 14:16 |
| seb128 | the ${libdir} there looks boggus | 14:16 |
| didrocks | and so tweaks fallback to the gsettings key | 14:16 |
| seb128 | it should be replaced by the actual value I guess? | 14:16 |
| didrocks | seb128: indeed | 14:16 |
| jbicha | seb128: I think the libdir problem needs to be fixed in debian/rules since IIRC meson wants explicit directory names instead of variables | 14:18 |
| seb128 | jbicha, can you have a look to the libdir/missing files issue today? | 14:18 |
| seb128 | I want to look at the g-c-c dock patch still | 14:18 |
| jbicha | yes | 14:19 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:19 |
| seb128 | want a bug report? | 14:19 |
| jbicha | probably not needed but you can if you want | 14:20 |
| seb128 | no it's fine | 14:20 |
| seb128 | jbicha, | 14:20 |
| seb128 | --libdir=/usr/lib \ | 14:20 |
| seb128 | --libexecdir="\$${libdir} | 14:20 |
| jbicha | I am annoyed that debhelper emits that dh_missing warning, if I wanted debhelper 11 compatibility, I would have set it! | 14:21 |
| seb128 | I guess we can just put the value for libexecdir | 14:21 |
| jbicha | yes, that's my plan | 14:21 |
| seb128 | libdir is not going to change without direct edit | 14:21 |
| jbicha | I'm surprised by how little work is done on GNOME Classic (the theme in particular could use love) | 14:23 |
| oSoMoN | build logs for parallel builds are hard to compare :/ | 14:23 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, indeed :-/ | 14:24 |
| oSoMoN | let's see if I can compare the squashfs of a working snap and a broken one instead | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | oSoMoN, you are not building the libreO snap on non-xenial without cleanbuild, do you ? | 14:26 |
| ogra_ | (that wont work because your lib versions wont match whats in the core snap ... you need to build against xenial (i.e. use cleanbuild)) | 14:27 |
| oSoMoN | ogra_, nope, I'm building on launchpad, xenial | 14:31 |
| ogra_ | ah, k the beginning of the description in the bug sounded like you are building natively on artful | 14:31 |
| oSoMoN | hu ho, the desktop-launch script differs between the two versions, and by a wayland-related snippet | 14:31 |
| oSoMoN | ogra_, testing on artful, not building on artful | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | yeah, got it | 14:32 |
| oSoMoN | I think I found my culprit | 14:33 |
| * oSoMoN looks at kenvandine | 14:33 | |
| oSoMoN | https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/commit/c19eff033485cbd5a81093bef1f049e351b3d699 | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, yes? | 14:34 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine: is there anything specific I need to do to make the snap work with that change in the desktop helpers? | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, no | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | should just work[tm] | 14:35 |
| kenvandine | worked for all of my snaps :) | 14:35 |
| oSoMoN | let me test by commenting out that snippet in the snap | 14:35 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, good idea | 14:35 |
| jbicha | seb128: done https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/3.25.91-0ubuntu2 | 14:44 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks | 14:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ | 14:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks, includes fail-missing so you can remove from your todo | 14:45 |
| jbicha | didrocks: libmozjs-52-dev is not arch:all and needs to be removed to unblock proposed migration | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, confirmed, reverting that change in the desktop helpers "fixes" the libreoffice snap | 14:47 |
| oSoMoN | the issue is probably somewhere else in the snap though | 14:47 |
| oSoMoN | but at least I know where to start looking | 14:47 |
| ogra_ | oSoMoN, well, i doubt you have a wayland interface unless you run snapd master ... it hasnt been released yet | 14:48 |
| kenvandine | ogra_, i tested his snap with the wayland interface | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | failed | 14:51 |
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| ogra_ | ah | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, not sure what that could have to do with it though | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | it sets additional env | 14:51 |
| didrocks | jbicha: done | 14:52 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, maybe missing stage packages? can you point me to a snap of yours that works under wayland with that change? | 14:52 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, can you try which line/env creates the issue? | 14:52 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, yep, was going to try that | 14:52 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, mine all use the gnome-3-24 content interface | 14:53 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, maybe the wayland libs are missing? | 14:53 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, which package provides them? | 14:53 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, it does link to gtk right? | 14:54 |
| oSoMoN | yes | 14:54 |
| kenvandine | maybe it's because it's built with the old wayland libs? | 14:54 |
| kenvandine | try getting a build with the backport ppa | 14:54 |
| kenvandine | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/gnome-3-24 | 14:54 |
| seb128 | that might well be the issue | 14:55 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 14:55 |
| kenvandine | if it's using gtk from xenial, that's an old wayland | 14:55 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, kenvandine, xenial wayland libs aren't going to work with the artful server | 14:55 |
| kenvandine | might not be compatible | 14:55 |
| seb128 | iirc | 14:55 |
| kenvandine | right | 14:55 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, wayland 1.12.0-1~ubuntu16.04.1 is already in xenial, how does the version in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/gnome-3-24/+packages differ? | 15:00 |
| oSoMoN | (in xenial-updates, that is) | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | hmmm | 15:02 |
| seb128 | oh, that's quite recent | 15:02 |
| seb128 | it was not at the time of the backport | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | right | 15:03 |
| kenvandine | it was 1.9 then | 15:03 |
| oSoMoN | commenting out the export of GDK_BACKEND to "wayland" makes the snap work | 15:04 |
| seb128 | so it probably use x11/xwayland | 15:04 |
| seb128 | now to debug what is wrong with wayland... | 15:05 |
| seb128 | does setting an env override the launcher one? | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | so... | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | gtk3 hasn't been rebuilt in xenial since that upload | 15:05 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, I don't think using native wayland is important atm, so maybe just override the env if you can | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | looks like latest gtk3 upload was april | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | wayland was july | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | i'm curious if it might work built against the backports ppa | 15:07 |
| seb128 | it's not even clear that the gtk version in xenial works with that newer wayland | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | maybe that gdk wayland backend is broken in xenial right now | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | yeah... it might even fail to build! | 15:07 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, I'll try building the snap against the backports PPA, it's gonna take a while though… | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, yeah | 15:07 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, kenvandine, try building with the ppa | 15:08 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, that's what the w.e is for :-) | 15:08 |
| seb128 | surprise on monday | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 15:08 |
| * kenvandine gets a 3 day weekend this weekend :) | 15:08 | |
| seb128 | and as a bonus you don't get to be disappointed on a friday | 15:08 |
| seb128 | oh? | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | monday is a us holiday | 15:08 |
| seb128 | national holiday on monday? or vac day? | 15:08 |
| seb128 | lucky you | 15:09 |
| seb128 | enjoy! | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:09 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, nah, a local build should take less than 4 hours, I can report back before going on EOW^W on holidays | 15:10 |
| oSoMoN | (I'm out all of next week) | 15:11 |
| seb128 | oh, I forgot about that | 15:12 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, enjoy! | 15:12 |
| oSoMoN | will sure do, flying to France for a few days tomorrow | 15:13 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, btw I didn't follow but the .1 artful update is for after your holidays then? (it's fine, just curious since I saw you discuss updates with rico this week) | 15:13 |
| seb128 | nice | 15:13 |
| Laney | poor you | 15:13 |
| didrocks | nice timing as well with the weather being a little bit more enjoyable :) | 15:13 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, well the update should be ready for publication tonight, but it will have received little testing | 15:14 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, I can block it in artful-proposed next week if you want to land it but feel a bit nervous about it | 15:14 |
| seb128 | at least the time we get some testing | 15:15 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, if you don't mind waiting a week, I can give it some serious testing when I'm back | 15:15 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, waiting is fine, do you prefer have it in proposed or just not uploaded until the week after? | 15:16 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, if the build completes shortly, I can stress-test it a bit before my EOD and if it looks good let's push it to -proposed (and keep it there), otherwise let's just wait | 15:17 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, k, it's fine either way so don't overstress yourself | 15:18 |
| ricotz | seb128, oSoMoN, having it sitting in -proposed would be preferred imo | 15:20 |
| seb128 | ricotz, why? | 15:21 |
| ricotz | I guess this way it will get into autopkgtest too | 15:21 |
| seb128 | right | 15:21 |
| seb128 | but it might block things if it turns out to not be ready and has to be blocked there for a while | 15:22 |
| oSoMoN | it would also give people using -proposed a chance to try it out and report issues | 15:22 |
| seb128 | that's the + side indeed | 15:22 |
| seb128 | I don't expect transitions now so it's not likely to block much | 15:22 |
| ricotz | please do so then | 15:23 |
| ricotz | it seems there is more care about a dev-release than the current stable one ;) | 15:23 |
| ricotz | (regarding libreoffice) | 15:23 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, regarding the zesty SRU I simply haven't had time to do it, it's not that I don't care | 15:25 |
| seb128 | jbicha, you added a gtksourceview4 to versions but that package doesn't exist (yet)? | 15:25 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, I understand that, but the zesty version is 5 months old, and minor 5 releases behind | 15:27 |
| seb128 | ricotz, there is no really point discussing a situation which is known and where everybody agrees it's suboptimal and understand the reason why it is (understaffing) | 15:28 |
| seb128 | no real* | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | also ... use snaps, not backported debs ;) | 15:29 |
| jbicha | seb128: someone needs to make a package for it eventually | 15:30 |
| ricotz | seb128, I would agree on that if it would be some less important package, I was hoping this would change, just reminding about it | 15:30 |
| jbicha | a year ago, gtk4 was said to be really soon… | 15:31 |
| seb128 | jbicha, right, but until then it lists as an empty/boggus line on the page :p | 15:32 |
| ricotz | jbicha, gtksourceview4 wasn't meant to work with gtk4, does it? | 15:32 |
| seb128 | ricotz, k, fair enough, still it's only Olivier doing libreoffice & chromium, snap&debs, current&stable series | 15:32 |
| jbicha | ricotz: I believe that's the point of gtksourceview4 but I haven't looked into it | 15:33 |
| ricotz | jbicha, there was some confusing about the naming, and I believe there was meant to be another bump/name change for that | 15:33 |
| ricotz | seb128, I know that | 15:35 |
| jbicha | oh, gtksourceview 3.99.5 in git master still lists gtk 3.20 in its configure.ac | 15:35 |
| ricotz | jbicha, https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GtkSourceView/TransitionToGtkSourceView4 | 15:36 |
| seb128 | do others also have right right on a gedit titlebar that open/activate the context menu direct | 15:44 |
| seb128 | which leads to minimize | 15:44 |
| seb128 | ? | 15:44 |
| didrocks | yes | 15:45 |
| didrocks | I didn't remember if that was the behavior prior to latest G-S update | 15:45 |
| didrocks | that's why I didn't report it | 15:45 |
| didrocks | you have to keep right click pressed | 15:46 |
| didrocks | to select another item | 15:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it works on nautilus though | 15:53 |
| didrocks | ohhhhhhhh, correct | 15:54 |
| seb128 | "fun", gedit page up/down doesn't work/scroll if the right side of the window is out of the screen | 15:54 |
| didrocks | looks like I only had the case yesterday with gedit | 15:54 |
| didrocks | ah | 15:54 |
| didrocks | didn't try that | 15:54 |
| seb128 | not going to get borred any time soon! | 15:54 |
| didrocks | job4life :) | 15:54 |
| seb128 | indeed! | 15:55 |
| jbicha | gedit also doesn't work well if you have too many docs open, I think it needs a tab switcher like epiphany has | 16:03 |
| seb128 | jbicha, didrocks, I looked a bit to updating the dock settings patch but it's more than a one hour job, so that's going to be for next week | 16:15 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, as seeing that we need to do the display matching, unsure how "easy" it's going to be its own panel (which it should IMHO) | 16:16 |
| didrocks | seb128: so, still undecided on it, but clearly not trivial | 16:16 |
| didrocks | I rebased the theme branch on jbicha's work (but using git-remote-bzr to do the easy rebase) | 16:17 |
| didrocks | I must say it worked very smoothly | 16:17 |
| jbicha | didrocks: are you planning a gnome-shell upload soon? | 16:19 |
| didrocks | jbicha: Monday, with the new theme | 16:20 |
| jbicha | didrocks: could you try adding this snippet to d/rules ? | 16:21 |
| jbicha | https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/gnome-shell/debian/rules?r1=53319&r2=53320 | 16:21 |
| jbicha | the translations part, the test part isn't needed | 16:21 |
| didrocks | jbicha: are we sure the tests works? | 16:21 |
| didrocks | yeah, I didn't want to block after the announce on this | 16:22 |
| jbicha | tests are enabled in Ubuntu already so you can ignore that | 16:22 |
| didrocks | ok | 16:22 |
| didrocks | so ninja is a build-dep already? | 16:22 |
| jbicha | yes it's what meson uses to do the actual build | 16:22 |
| jbicha | and gnome-shell is meson only now | 16:22 |
| didrocks | good! will add this thus! | 16:22 |
| seb128 | thanks didrocks | 16:22 |
| didrocks | jbicha: on Tweaks, I'll do the change first on -prefs (probably end of next week), but more changes are needed in tweaks as well | 16:23 |
| jbicha | build tests aren't working for me in clutter, mutter, and gnome-shell in Debian but I don't know why | 16:23 |
| seb128 | k, I'm going to do some wayland debugging for https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102475 so closing my session | 16:23 |
| ubot5 | Freedesktop bug 102475 in XWayland "Can't use keyboard arrows in kvm with the keyboard grabbing change" [Normal,Needinfo] | 16:23 |
| seb128 | then I probably call it a week | 16:23 |
| seb128 | have a nice w.e desktopers | 16:23 |
| didrocks | thanks, you too seb128! | 16:24 |
| kenvandine | seb128, you too! | 16:24 |
| jbicha | btw, GNOME is in code freeze next week | 16:24 |
| seb128 | good, less new bugs added! | 16:25 |
| jbicha | finally :) | 16:25 |
| seb128 | :-) | 16:26 |
| didrocks | jbicha: yeah, I'll add that as a distro-patch but still report it to G-S upstream, I don't think they worry much seeing for how long they have this bug with classic :p | 16:26 |
| seb128 | k, on that note session closing | 16:26 |
| jbicha | gnome-shell will probably be late on code freeze, it's funny because they are the part that most needs freezes | 16:27 |
| didrocks | due to the last bugs? I didn't see that discussed | 16:27 |
| didrocks | or the top panel changes ? | 16:27 |
| jbicha | gnome-shell is usually late for release deadlines | 16:28 |
| jbicha | like deadline is Monday so they release on Thursday 3 or 4 days later | 16:28 |
| Laney | tseliot: your patch seems to work - I'll give you a code review on monday morning | 17:02 |
| Laney | fossfreedom: you too | 17:02 |
| Laney | tseliot: looks like something has locked up when my screen dimmed though :( | 17:03 |
| Laney | https://paste.ubuntu.com/25445993/ | 17:05 |
| Laney | anyways | 17:05 |
| Laney | goodnight! | 17:05 |
| tseliot | Laney: thanks! Yes, it looks like an nvidia/wayland bug, nothing my code could ever cause. Have a nice weekend! | 17:31 |
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| oSoMoN | kenvandine, re-built the libreoffice snap with the gnome-3-24 PPA, and am still getting the same crash at startup | 20:11 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, ok | 20:14 |
| kenvandine | that rules that out | 20:14 |
| oSoMoN | I’ll resume investigation on that issue on the 11th when I’m back from holidays | 20:18 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, have a good vacation! | 20:23 |
| oSoMoN | thanks! | 20:27 |
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