| Polimatio | Hello there! I get a different SHA256 checksum from the one posted in the downloads page for the 32 bit version of Ubuntu MATE 16.04.3. I have already redownloaded and checked both the direct download and the torrent. I also re-checked the torrented file. Is it wrong? | 00:07 |
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| Polimatio | Should I ask somewhere else? | 00:22 |
| Polimatio | I guess the number of people who use IRC nowadays is about the same number of people that verify their downloads... Thanks anyway! | 00:29 |
| mate|34680 | Bonjour à toutes et à tous, J'ai un problème avec le programme intégré post-it. Il ne s'affiche plus. Qand je tente de le démarrer, ça ne réagi pas. Au départ, il à fonctionné deux ou trois jours puis plus rien. | 07:54 |
| alkisg | !fr | 08:03 |
| ubottu | Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 08:04 |
| mate|9249 | Hi everyone. The "post-it" program in ubuntu mate doesn't work. It does works two or three days and after that, nothing else are showed. When i try to launch the little software, it doesn't respond. | 08:45 |
| mate|9249 | someone here ? | 08:51 |
| mate|9249 | hello ? | 09:11 |
| mpak | Привет всем! Есть кто нибудь разбирающийся в убунту-майт? | 09:55 |
| ouroumov_ | !ru | mpak | 09:57 |
| ubottu | mpak: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 09:57 |
| mpak | thankyou | 10:00 |
| ouroumov_ | no problem | 10:00 |
| DarkJarris | huh, thats neat | 10:02 |
| ouroumov_ | DarkJarris, standard ubuntu channel bot function, works with a lot of languages | 10:05 |
| DarkJarris | yeah, just looking through the channel listings, didnt notice theres a ton of them | 10:08 |
| DarkJarris | i just typed ubuntu-mate and kept my fingers crossed :P | 10:09 |
| mosasaur | I have a weird question I hope it's OK | 10:15 |
| mosasaur | my desktop is LXDE but I let nemo handle it | 10:15 |
| mosasaur | I have disable the lxde desktop handling | 10:16 |
| mosasaur | it's great but I can't seem to set a wallpaper | 10:16 |
| mosasaur | so what are the utilities mate uses to set wallpapers | 10:17 |
| ouroumov_ | mosasaur, we use caja | 10:21 |
| mosasaur | ouroumov_: what is caja | 10:21 |
| ouroumov_ | mosasaur, the file manager | 10:21 |
| mosasaur | oops | 10:21 |
| mosasaur | I thought you guys used nemo :( | 10:22 |
| ouroumov_ | nope | 10:22 |
| mosasaur | thanks anyway. I wonder how I came to think that | 10:23 |
| mosasaur | I guess I was barking up the wrong tree, I should asking cinnamon people | 10:25 |
| ouroumov_ | yup | 10:26 |
| mosasaur | but now I'm here, can caja also handle the desktop? | 10:26 |
| ouroumov_ | mosasaur, that's what it does in Ubuntu MATE | 10:26 |
| mosasaur | thanks! | 10:26 |
| DarkJarris | So, I'm not sure if this is a Ubuntu MATE thing specifically, or Ubuntu, or just Linux in general, but This time round installing Ubuntu MATE i decided to check the "encrpyt entire harddrive" option, when i turn on now, the screen stays powered off, I enter my encryption password and press enter (all blindly) and itll then boot up fine | 10:42 |
| DarkJarris | if i press enter at the black screen, i get the prompt to enter my encryption key (along with a failed attempt because of empty password) | 10:42 |
| DarkJarris | Is that something I can change? I'd like to be able to see what I'm doing :P | 10:43 |
| ouroumov_ | DarkJarris, interesting | 10:45 |
| ouroumov_ | DarkJarris, if I follow you can't see what you type in the first time only? | 10:45 |
| DarkJarris | that's certainly an appropriate word | 10:46 |
| DarkJarris | correct | 10:46 |
| DarkJarris | if i type in my password correctly blindly, the system boots fine. if i get it wrong, the screen activates and shows me a "bad password" style message, and a prompt to try again | 10:47 |
| ouroumov_ | So first off that's an issue with the Ubuntu base, but I recommend you try and remove "quiet splash" from your boot command in /etc/default/grub and see if that's easier to see stuff. | 10:47 |
| DarkJarris | alright | 10:47 |
| ouroumov_ | (You need to use the command sudo update-grub after that) | 10:48 |
| DarkJarris | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" | 10:48 |
| DarkJarris | so just leave that as empty string? | 10:48 |
| ouroumov_ | change that to ="" | 10:48 |
| ouroumov_ | yeah just remove quiet splash | 10:49 |
| ouroumov_ | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" | 10:49 |
| DarkJarris | alright, done, and sudo update-grub has been run | 10:49 |
| ouroumov_ | should allow for verbose non-graphical boot | 10:50 |
| DarkJarris | righto, i'll give it a go now | 10:50 |
| DarkJarris | that fixed it ouroumov_, thanks. | 10:53 |
| DarkJarris | an odd issue, but easily worked around] | 10:54 |
| ouroumov_ | DarkJarris, might be worth making a bug report for though | 10:55 |
| DarkJarris | should I file it with MATE or Ubuntu? | 10:56 |
| DarkJarris | I'd say Ubuntu base makes more sense | 10:56 |
| ouroumov_ | With ubuntu, I'd say against Linux because I don't know any better | 10:56 |
| ouroumov_ | There's a chance it's hardware related since I haven't seen that before | 10:57 |
| ouroumov_ | DarkJarris, what version of Ubuntu MATE are you using btw? | 10:57 |
| DarkJarris | 15.04 64bit | 10:58 |
| ouroumov_ | 15? | 10:58 |
| DarkJarris | yeah... i forgot to upgrade lol | 10:58 |
| DarkJarris | didnt want to wait to download the latest cause our download speed here sucks | 10:59 |
| DarkJarris | meant to install and then upgrade, apparently i forgot that part | 10:59 |
| ouroumov_ | You're gonna have quite a lot of download to do to update | 10:59 |
| DarkJarris | just my luck hah | 11:00 |
| DarkJarris | well, i can leave it running over the weekend doing it i guess | 11:00 |
| DarkJarris | i was on a broken OpenSUSE install before so at least i have a functioning system in the meantime | 11:01 |
| ouroumov_ | You should really consider downloading the LTS though, 16.04.3 | 11:02 |
| ouroumov_ | We have torrents available on the website | 11:03 |
| ouroumov_ | I've just set my server to seed on the LTS torrents, I'd forgotten to do it. | 11:05 |
| DarkJarris | ive got 16.04.3 on my home pc, but this laptop i didnt have the dvd to hand | 11:20 |
| DarkJarris | im planning on it though for sure | 11:20 |
| DarkJarris | hm, if i download the 16.04.3 via torrent, can i update from that? | 11:22 |
| DarkJarris | i seem to remember some kind of "upgrade from dvd drive" option, but its been a long time since i looked at that | 11:23 |
| ouroumov_ | Uh, I don't think so. I think it's better to reinstall, and easier if you have a separate /home partition | 11:24 |
| DarkJarris | fair enough | 11:25 |
| DarkJarris | quick google says that its possible but really prone to breaking because it ruins your dependencies and really not ideal | 11:26 |
| DarkJarris | its also mostly older versions showing up, like 10.04 | 11:26 |
| DarkJarris | so im just gunna not risk it | 11:26 |
| alkisg | Upgrade from 10.04 to 16.04?! | 11:27 |
| DarkJarris | sorry, that was badly worded | 11:27 |
| DarkJarris | 10.04 to 12.04, etc | 11:27 |
| DarkJarris | old threads | 11:27 |
| alkisg | What do you have now that you want to upgrade? | 11:27 |
| alkisg | Ah 15.04 it was up | 11:28 |
| alkisg | Didn't read that far up :) | 11:28 |
| DarkJarris | im on 15.04 yeah | 11:28 |
| DarkJarris | heh | 11:28 |
| alkisg | You'd need to go via 15.10 first | 11:28 |
| alkisg | I.e. 2 upgrades | 11:28 |
| DarkJarris | oh, that'd suck | 11:28 |
| DarkJarris | i'll probably just clean reinstall in the end | 11:29 |
| DarkJarris | i dont actually have much data on this laptop anyway | 11:30 |
| alkisg | You can keep all the data in a subfolder | 11:30 |
| alkisg | e.g. boot from a live cd and run: mkdir /mnt/backup/; mv /mnt/* /mnt/backup | 11:30 |
| alkisg | And then install, while keeping everything... | 11:30 |
| DarkJarris | just looking through now, the only file ive actually got is discord-0.0.2.deb | 11:32 |
| DarkJarris | i hink itd actually take longer to do a backup, than to just download discord again | 11:33 |
| DarkJarris | but thanks for telling me thats an option that exists | 11:33 |
| thomas_123 | Is anyone familiar with Aptik? Does it work in a situation where you clean install to a upgraded version of ubuntu or will it attempt to restore outdated packages that is backed up? | 11:34 |
| DarkJarris | sorry, nope. | 11:54 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't use something like Aptik, probably use dpkg and apt. | 12:04 |
| christian_ | hey | 12:08 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, something like what is explained here? https://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages | 12:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Rarely need to do it, but that's how I'd go about it. Last time I had a list of packages I needed on top of the default ones and apt'ed them all. | 12:13 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, what happens if you upgrade or if packages are upgraded, will it restore the updated packages or outdated ones? | 12:15 |
| sixwheeledbeast | A clean install when it rarely happens is normally the time I remove stuff I don't use any more. | 12:16 |
| sixwheeledbeast | An upgrade isn't a complete new system. It would only remove any conflicting or unrequired packages | 12:17 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, probably a good idea. I just wondered what happens if system crashes during an upgrade and you can't get it back. I had a machine with kubuntu that just had a large upgrade and it would not boot back into the desktop. | 12:18 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, just want to be sure I have a good method in place to recover a system without spending all day re-downloading and setting themes and settings. | 12:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Recommended to take a backup of /home in case stuff goes wrong. Events like that are unlikely. | 12:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I am happy with MATE because I need to change minimal settings OOTB | 12:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Settings should be in /home anyway | 12:20 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, true but in two weeks I have had the kubuntu upgrade crash the system and ended up destroying the grub on my laptop. Both I was able to repair without lose and the grub was user error removing another older ubuntu. | 12:21 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, but I tend to fiddle with to much trying to learn what I can. lol | 12:22 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Fiddling with systems you need isn't advised. Especially the parts required for booting. | 12:23 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, I have 5 desktops, 2 laptops and 6 tablets ... so there is always a go to machine. | 12:24 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, most everything is converted to linux or android at this point except one desktop and one tablet. | 12:25 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, I just converted my main system to linux two weeks ago and ended up having issues getting it to dual boot with windows 10. I will eventually just remove the windows 10 anyhow but kept it until everything I needed has been transferred over. | 12:33 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, I am very happy with the switch though. Only thing I miss is GW2 but have been so busy that I would not have had time to play anyhow. | 12:34 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I recall. I still believe installing the Win10 system in a VM would be the better option if you need it. | 12:41 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, I think so as well. I have win8.1 in a vm and winxp for right now. I need to try win10. This is an Alienware machine and the os recovery disk does not seem to do anything. I downloaded an iso for it from dell but have not tried that yet. | 12:58 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, I am not sure I will need windows at all once I get my password database moved over. GW2 would be nice but I could live without it. | 12:59 |
| thomas_123 | sixwheeledbeast, I am ditching Adobe and don't use MS Office so not much else I really need. | 12:59 |
| RafiLinux | Hi all | 17:53 |
| diogenes_ | hi | 17:53 |
| RafiLinux | Playing Sky Roque and it's free awesome. | 18:11 |
| heisenberg | hello hello | 21:48 |
| heisenberg | anyone here active right now? | 21:48 |
| heisenberg | anyone... | 21:50 |
| bobe | maybe (: | 21:53 |
| heisenberg | yey | 21:57 |
| heisenberg | hi bobe | 21:57 |
| heisenberg | im looking for directions to do internet conenction sharing | 21:57 |
| heisenberg | using two wifi cards - the laptop internal one, and the usb dongle that is connected and working on the laptop | 21:57 |
| heisenberg | no access to wired ethernet | 21:58 |
| heisenberg | goal is to get internet connection sharing setup with laptop nic as the source, and usb nic as the one shared to other wifi devices | 21:58 |
| heisenberg | no clear way to do it on gui | 21:58 |
| ouroumov_ | Hello heisenberg | 22:02 |
| heisenberg | hello ouroumov | 22:02 |
| ouroumov_ | heisenberg, I'm checking stuff out | 22:03 |
| heisenberg | thanks :D | 22:04 |
| heisenberg | im trying to read the onlince docs as well, the usual samples is using wired-->wireless, and wireless->wired | 22:04 |
| heisenberg | i tried doing the same method, but it seems that ubuntu thinks wirelss-->wirelss is not possible | 22:05 |
| ouroumov_ | heisenberg, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. | 22:06 |
| ouroumov_ | I don't know what onlince is though | 22:06 |
| ouroumov_ | Are you not using network manager? | 22:06 |
| heisenberg | im using the default ubuntu mate 1604 | 22:07 |
| heisenberg | not really sure if this is network manager | 22:07 |
| heisenberg | but i didnt install any other networking tool or whatver | 22:08 |
| ouroumov_ | heisenberg, when you create your hotspot, you can choose the interface: https://i.imgur.com/rumZCdm.png | 22:08 |
| heisenberg | yup, we have the same gui | 22:09 |
| heisenberg | and i did choose the other interface | 22:10 |
| heisenberg | i chose the interface that is not connected to the internet to be the hotspot | 22:10 |
| ouroumov_ | Have you tired switching them around? I seem to recall not all wifi NICs can do broadcast. | 22:12 |
| ouroumov_ | Also, what have you done to troubleshoot? Did you look at the routes? Ping test? That kind of thing? | 22:12 |
| heisenberg | ive tried switching them in the gui config | 22:13 |
| heisenberg | im not able to see the hotspot wifi turn on at all | 22:13 |
| ouroumov_ | Hmm, I'm gonna try it with an USB dongle that I never used for anything, gimme a moment. | 22:14 |
| heisenberg | thanks man for taking the time to help on this | 22:16 |
| pencilcase | hi im needing some help | 22:18 |
| ouroumov_ | hi pencilcase | 22:19 |
| ouroumov_ | heisenberg, yeah I can't immediately get it to work either, will try a bit more stuff after I eat. | 22:30 |
| heisenberg | haha | 22:31 |
| heisenberg | i mean that in a good comforting way for both of us :) | 22:31 |
| heisenberg | i thought i was crazy | 22:31 |
| heisenberg | thanks so much ouroumov | 22:32 |
| ouroumov_ | Before I forget: did you make sure there was no network conflict? Default network for a connection sharing is 10.42.0.0/24 with the router @ 10.42.0.1 | 22:32 |
| heisenberg | i dont want to mess with some older posts about using Firestarter - there was a note that its no longer maintained | 22:32 |
| heisenberg | my internet source wifi gets 192.168.200.x | 22:33 |
| ouroumov_ | So no conflict, okay. | 22:34 |
| ouroumov_ | heisenberg, still no joy here | 23:36 |
| heisenberg | its ok mate | 23:37 |
| heisenberg | i think ill boot to windows later :D | 23:37 |
| heisenberg | my goal is to packet capture data transmitted by my phone | 23:37 |
| heisenberg | im pretty sure ethernet to wifi will work just fine, but im too lazy to run a cable from laptop to wifi router :D | 23:38 |
| heisenberg | at least im not crazy :D | 23:38 |
| heisenberg | but many many thanks for your time | 23:38 |
| ouroumov_ | Ethernet to wifi works just fine indeed | 23:39 |
| heisenberg | really appreciate your looking into this man | 23:40 |
| ouroumov_ | But this should work too, there's no good reason why not | 23:40 |
| heisenberg | you have a good weekend mate | 23:40 |
| ouroumov_ | thanks, you too | 23:40 |
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