[00:07] <Polimatio> Hello there! I get a different SHA256 checksum from the one posted in the downloads page for the 32 bit version of Ubuntu MATE 16.04.3. I have already redownloaded and checked both the direct download and the torrent. I also re-checked the torrented file. Is it wrong?
[00:22] <Polimatio> Should I ask somewhere else?
[00:29] <Polimatio> I guess the number of people who use IRC nowadays is about the same number of people that verify their downloads... Thanks anyway!
[07:54] <mate|34680> Bonjour à toutes et à tous, J'ai un problème avec le programme intégré post-it. Il ne s'affiche plus. Qand je tente de le démarrer, ça ne réagi pas. Au départ, il à fonctionné deux ou trois jours puis plus rien.
[08:03] <alkisg> !fr
[08:45] <mate|9249> Hi everyone. The "post-it" program in ubuntu mate doesn't work. It does works two or three days and after that, nothing else are showed. When i try to launch the little software, it doesn't respond.
[08:51] <mate|9249> someone here ?
[09:11] <mate|9249> hello ?
[09:55] <mpak> Привет всем! Есть кто нибудь разбирающийся в убунту-майт?
[09:57] <ouroumov_> !ru | mpak
[10:00] <mpak> thankyou
[10:00] <ouroumov_> no problem
[10:02] <DarkJarris> huh, thats neat
[10:05] <ouroumov_> DarkJarris, standard ubuntu channel bot function, works with a lot of languages
[10:08] <DarkJarris> yeah, just looking through the channel listings, didnt notice theres a ton of them
[10:09] <DarkJarris> i just typed ubuntu-mate and kept my fingers crossed :P
[10:15] <mosasaur> I have a weird question I hope it's OK
[10:15] <mosasaur> my desktop is LXDE but I let nemo handle it
[10:16] <mosasaur> I have disable the lxde desktop handling
[10:16] <mosasaur> it's great but I can't seem to set a wallpaper
[10:17] <mosasaur> so what are the utilities mate uses to set wallpapers
[10:21] <ouroumov_> mosasaur, we use caja
[10:21] <mosasaur> ouroumov_: what is caja
[10:21] <ouroumov_> mosasaur, the file manager
[10:21] <mosasaur> oops
[10:22] <mosasaur> I thought you guys used nemo :(
[10:22] <ouroumov_> nope
[10:23] <mosasaur> thanks anyway. I wonder how I came to think that
[10:25] <mosasaur> I guess I was barking up the wrong tree, I should asking cinnamon people
[10:26] <ouroumov_> yup
[10:26] <mosasaur> but now I'm here, can caja also handle the desktop?
[10:26] <ouroumov_> mosasaur, that's what it does in Ubuntu MATE
[10:26] <mosasaur> thanks!
[10:42] <DarkJarris> So, I'm not sure if this is a Ubuntu MATE thing specifically, or Ubuntu, or just Linux in general, but This time round installing Ubuntu MATE i decided to check the "encrpyt entire harddrive" option, when i turn on now, the screen stays powered off, I enter my encryption password and press enter (all blindly) and itll then boot up fine
[10:42] <DarkJarris> if i press enter at the black screen, i get the prompt to enter my encryption key (along with a failed attempt because of empty password)
[10:43] <DarkJarris> Is that something I can change? I'd like to be able to see what I'm doing :P
[10:45] <ouroumov_> DarkJarris, interesting
[10:45] <ouroumov_> DarkJarris, if I follow you can't see what you type in the first time only?
[10:46] <DarkJarris> that's certainly an appropriate word
[10:46] <DarkJarris> correct
[10:47] <DarkJarris> if i type in my password correctly blindly, the system boots fine. if i get it wrong, the screen activates and shows me a "bad password" style message, and a prompt to try again
[10:47] <ouroumov_> So first off that's an issue with the Ubuntu base, but I recommend you try and remove "quiet splash" from your boot command in /etc/default/grub and see if that's easier to see stuff.
[10:47] <DarkJarris> alright
[10:48] <ouroumov_> (You need to use the command sudo update-grub after that)
[10:48] <DarkJarris> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[10:48] <DarkJarris> so just leave that as empty string?
[10:48] <ouroumov_> change that to =""
[10:49] <ouroumov_> yeah just remove quiet splash
[10:49] <ouroumov_> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[10:49] <DarkJarris> alright, done, and sudo update-grub has been run
[10:50] <ouroumov_> should allow for verbose non-graphical boot
[10:50] <DarkJarris> righto, i'll give it a go now
[10:53] <DarkJarris> that fixed it ouroumov_, thanks.
[10:54] <DarkJarris> an odd issue, but easily worked around]
[10:55] <ouroumov_> DarkJarris, might be worth making a bug report for though
[10:56] <DarkJarris> should I file it with MATE or Ubuntu?
[10:56] <DarkJarris> I'd say Ubuntu base makes more sense
[10:56] <ouroumov_> With ubuntu, I'd say against Linux because I don't know any better
[10:57] <ouroumov_> There's a chance it's hardware related since I haven't seen that before
[10:57] <ouroumov_> DarkJarris, what version of Ubuntu MATE are you using btw?
[10:58] <DarkJarris> 15.04 64bit
[10:58] <ouroumov_> 15?
[10:58] <DarkJarris> yeah... i forgot to upgrade lol
[10:59] <DarkJarris> didnt want to wait to download the latest cause our download speed here sucks
[10:59] <DarkJarris> meant to install and then upgrade, apparently i forgot that part
[10:59] <ouroumov_> You're gonna have quite a lot of download to do to update
[11:00] <DarkJarris> just my luck hah
[11:00] <DarkJarris> well, i can leave it running over the weekend doing it i guess
[11:01] <DarkJarris> i was on a broken OpenSUSE install before so at least i have a functioning system in the meantime
[11:02] <ouroumov_> You should really consider downloading the LTS though, 16.04.3
[11:03] <ouroumov_> We have torrents available on the website
[11:05] <ouroumov_> I've just set my server to seed on the LTS torrents, I'd forgotten to do it.
[11:20] <DarkJarris> ive got 16.04.3 on my home pc, but this laptop i didnt have the dvd to hand
[11:20] <DarkJarris> im planning on it though for sure
[11:22] <DarkJarris> hm, if i download the 16.04.3 via torrent, can i update from that?
[11:23] <DarkJarris> i seem to remember some kind of "upgrade from dvd drive" option, but its been a long time since i looked at that
[11:24] <ouroumov_> Uh, I don't think so. I think it's better to reinstall, and easier if you have a separate /home partition
[11:25] <DarkJarris> fair enough
[11:26] <DarkJarris> quick google says that its possible but really prone to breaking because it ruins your dependencies and really not ideal
[11:26] <DarkJarris> its also mostly older versions showing up, like 10.04
[11:26] <DarkJarris> so im just gunna not risk it
[11:27] <alkisg> Upgrade from 10.04 to 16.04?!
[11:27] <DarkJarris> sorry, that was badly worded
[11:27] <DarkJarris> 10.04 to 12.04, etc
[11:27] <DarkJarris> old threads
[11:27] <alkisg> What do you have now that you want to upgrade?
[11:28] <alkisg> Ah 15.04 it was up
[11:28] <alkisg> Didn't read that far up :)
[11:28] <DarkJarris> im on 15.04 yeah
[11:28] <DarkJarris> heh
[11:28] <alkisg> You'd need to go via 15.10 first
[11:28] <alkisg> I.e. 2 upgrades
[11:28] <DarkJarris> oh, that'd suck
[11:29] <DarkJarris> i'll probably just clean reinstall in the end
[11:30] <DarkJarris> i dont actually have much data on this laptop anyway
[11:30] <alkisg> You can keep all the data in a subfolder
[11:30] <alkisg> e.g. boot from a live cd and run: mkdir /mnt/backup/; mv /mnt/* /mnt/backup
[11:30] <alkisg> And then install, while keeping everything...
[11:32] <DarkJarris> just looking through now, the only file ive actually got is discord-0.0.2.deb
[11:33] <DarkJarris> i hink itd actually take longer to do a backup, than to just download discord again
[11:33] <DarkJarris> but thanks for telling me thats an option that exists
[11:34] <thomas_123> Is anyone familiar with Aptik? Does it work in a situation where you clean install to a upgraded version of ubuntu or will it attempt to restore outdated packages that is backed up?
[11:54] <DarkJarris> sorry, nope.
[12:04] <sixwheeledbeast> I wouldn't use something like Aptik, probably use dpkg and apt.
[12:08] <christian_> hey
[12:09] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, something like what is explained here? https://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages
[12:13] <sixwheeledbeast> Rarely need to do it, but that's how I'd go about it. Last time I had a list of packages I needed on top of the default ones and apt'ed them all.
[12:15] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, what happens if you upgrade or if packages are upgraded, will it restore the updated packages or outdated ones?
[12:16] <sixwheeledbeast> A clean install when it rarely happens is normally the time I remove stuff I don't use any more.
[12:17] <sixwheeledbeast> An upgrade isn't a complete new system. It would only remove any conflicting or unrequired packages
[12:18] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, probably a good idea. I just wondered what happens if system crashes during an upgrade and you can't get it back. I had a machine with kubuntu that just had a large upgrade and it would not boot back into the desktop.
[12:19] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, just want to be sure I have a good method in place to recover a system without spending all day re-downloading and setting themes and settings.
[12:19] <sixwheeledbeast> Recommended to take a backup of /home in case stuff goes wrong. Events like that are unlikely.
[12:20] <sixwheeledbeast> I am happy with MATE because I need to change minimal settings OOTB
[12:20] <sixwheeledbeast> Settings should be in /home anyway
[12:21] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, true but in two weeks I have had the kubuntu upgrade crash the system and ended up destroying the grub on my laptop. Both I was able to repair without lose and the grub was user error removing another older ubuntu.
[12:22] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, but I tend to fiddle with to much trying to learn what I can. lol
[12:23] <sixwheeledbeast> Fiddling with systems you need isn't advised. Especially the parts required for booting.
[12:24] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, I have 5 desktops, 2 laptops and 6 tablets ... so there is always a go to machine.
[12:25] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, most everything is converted to linux or android at this point except one desktop and one tablet.
[12:33] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, I just converted my main system to linux two weeks ago and ended up having issues getting it to dual boot with windows 10. I will eventually just remove the windows 10 anyhow but kept it until everything I needed has been transferred over.
[12:34] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, I am very happy with the switch though. Only thing I miss is GW2 but have been so busy that I would not have had time to play anyhow.
[12:41] <sixwheeledbeast> I recall. I still believe installing the Win10 system in a VM would be the better option if you need it.
[12:58] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, I think so as well. I have win8.1 in a vm and winxp for right now. I need to try win10. This is an Alienware machine and the os recovery disk does not seem to do anything. I downloaded an iso for it from dell but have not tried that yet.
[12:59] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, I am not sure I will need windows at all once I get my password database moved over. GW2 would be nice but I could live without it.
[12:59] <thomas_123> sixwheeledbeast, I am ditching Adobe and don't use MS Office so not much else I really need.
[17:53] <RafiLinux> Hi all
[17:53] <diogenes_> hi
[18:11] <RafiLinux> Playing Sky Roque and it's free awesome.
[21:48] <heisenberg> hello hello
[21:48] <heisenberg> anyone here active right now?
[21:50] <heisenberg> anyone...
[21:53] <bobe> maybe (:
[21:57] <heisenberg> yey
[21:57] <heisenberg> hi bobe
[21:57] <heisenberg> im looking for directions to do internet conenction sharing
[21:57] <heisenberg> using two wifi cards - the laptop internal one, and the usb dongle that is connected and working on the laptop
[21:58] <heisenberg> no access to wired ethernet
[21:58] <heisenberg> goal is to get internet connection sharing setup with laptop nic as the source, and usb nic as the one shared to other wifi devices
[21:58] <heisenberg> no clear way to do it on gui
[22:02] <ouroumov_> Hello heisenberg
[22:02] <heisenberg> hello ouroumov
[22:03] <ouroumov_> heisenberg, I'm checking stuff out
[22:04] <heisenberg> thanks :D
[22:04] <heisenberg> im trying to read the onlince docs as well, the usual samples is using wired-->wireless, and wireless->wired
[22:05] <heisenberg> i tried doing the same method, but it seems that ubuntu thinks wirelss-->wirelss is not possible
[22:06] <ouroumov_> heisenberg, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.
[22:06] <ouroumov_> I don't know what onlince is though
[22:06] <ouroumov_> Are you not using network manager?
[22:07] <heisenberg> im using the default ubuntu mate 1604
[22:07] <heisenberg> not really sure if this is network manager
[22:08] <heisenberg> but i didnt install any other networking tool or whatver
[22:08] <ouroumov_> heisenberg, when you create your hotspot, you can choose the interface: https://i.imgur.com/rumZCdm.png
[22:09] <heisenberg> yup, we have the same gui
[22:10] <heisenberg> and i did choose the other interface
[22:10] <heisenberg> i chose the interface that is not connected to the internet to be the hotspot
[22:12] <ouroumov_> Have you tired switching them around? I seem to recall not all wifi NICs can do broadcast.
[22:12] <ouroumov_> Also, what have you done to troubleshoot? Did you look at the routes? Ping test? That kind of thing?
[22:13] <heisenberg> ive tried switching them in the gui config
[22:13] <heisenberg> im not able to see the hotspot wifi turn on at all
[22:14] <ouroumov_> Hmm, I'm gonna try it with an USB dongle that I never used for anything, gimme a moment.
[22:16] <heisenberg> thanks man for taking the time to help on this
[22:18] <pencilcase> hi im needing some help
[22:19] <ouroumov_> hi pencilcase
[22:30] <ouroumov_> heisenberg, yeah I can't immediately get it to work either, will try a bit more stuff after I eat.
[22:31] <heisenberg> haha
[22:31] <heisenberg> i mean that in a good comforting way for both of us :)
[22:31] <heisenberg> i thought i was crazy
[22:32] <heisenberg> thanks so much ouroumov
[22:32] <ouroumov_> Before I forget: did you make sure there was no network conflict? Default network for a connection sharing is 10.42.0.0/24 with the router @ 10.42.0.1
[22:32] <heisenberg> i dont want to mess with some older posts about using Firestarter - there was a note that its no longer maintained
[22:33] <heisenberg> my internet source wifi gets 192.168.200.x
[22:34] <ouroumov_> So no conflict, okay.
[23:36] <ouroumov_> heisenberg, still no joy here
[23:37] <heisenberg> its ok mate
[23:37] <heisenberg> i think ill boot to windows later :D
[23:37] <heisenberg> my goal is to packet capture data transmitted by my phone
[23:38] <heisenberg> im pretty sure ethernet to wifi will work just fine, but im too lazy to run a cable from laptop to wifi router :D
[23:38] <heisenberg> at least im not crazy :D
[23:38] <heisenberg> but many many thanks for your time
[23:39] <ouroumov_> Ethernet to wifi works just fine indeed
[23:40] <heisenberg> really appreciate your looking into this man
[23:40] <ouroumov_> But this should work too, there's no good reason why not
[23:40] <heisenberg> you have a good weekend mate
[23:40] <ouroumov_> thanks, you too