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Unit193bluesabre: whiskermenu should likely recommend mugshot, since that's a default option now I'd think?  However, in Debian mugshot is a sad, lonely puppy.02:34
flocculantbluesabre: probably as I suspected - bunch of random xfce git things installed - including panel :p06:36
flocculantI think probably it's time to reset this install :D06:42
flocculanteasier said than done ... 07:30
Unit193Pretty much nuke /usr/local/ then check `debsums`?07:46
Unit193bluesabre: Can we remove all the things!? :D10:19
bluesabre:)10:20
Unit193However, we should remove them from 'supported'10:21
bluesabreWe can tidy up debian and sync all the removals10:21
Unit193http://paste.openstack.org/show/UZvofiibujcAVIkR8q9y10:23
Unit193Err.  G'morning, sir.10:25
bluesabreUnit193: Feel free to go ahead with that :)10:38
Unit193Done.  I'm sure there's more dead ones there though.10:42
flocculantUnit193: probably just going to not bother with any of that and just move stuff to the vanilla artful I don't use :p11:06
Unit193Where's the fun in that? :P11:16
flocculant:D11:17
flocculantI did try reverting the git stuff but had that libgarcon-dev issue again ... 11:18
Unit193Debian bug, known, fixed in svn.11:18
akxwi-daveflocculant:  agree with you from last nights comment...11:18
akxwi-daveoh and My internet went live this morning wooo hoo11:19
flocculantprobably not helping my situation with this pa plugin having some random git version either :D11:19
flocculantakxwi-dave: ack - well I guess we should aim for a blog post on 18th11:19
akxwi-daveand wierdly i get an extra 5 meg of speed from it11:19
flocculantand woohoo11:19
Unit193I should grab svn from garcon and build it for you, I suppose...11:20
flocculantUnit193: I almost love you :p11:20
Unit193Some of those words aren't in the right order..11:20
flocculant:D11:20
bluesabreflocculant: can probably set up a daily build of the pa plug now11:22
flocculantbluesabre: oh ok - that'll probably be helpful for at least 1 person :D11:22
* Unit193 likes releases. :>11:23
flocculantbut I probably need to get shot of the various git things anyway - panl, thunar, ind-panel, screenshooter, status notifier11:23
flocculantpa plugin ... 11:23
flocculantthen start again \o/11:24
flocculantUnit193: I'd want garcon-dev anyway I think :)11:24
flocculantbbl11:24
Unit193in-plug is boring, but sn-plug git is fun.11:36
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flocculantbluesabre: now the dust has settled after the beta - your reason for running it was "if nothing more than as a spot check to make sure we haven't had any breakage this cycle" 17:41
flocculantand tbh we had 2 people looking who do so regardless of whether there's a milestone, you and Paul 17:42
bluesabreflocculant: more or less, and if we were lucky, some bug reports that affect only us or a few folks17:42
flocculantjust seems like a lot of hassle for no reward to me 17:42
bluesabreI think we're the only ones using -gtk-greeter now, and only us and mate (I think) are using lightdm at all17:42
bluesabreAs we fall farther from ubuntu proper, there's going to be more breakage17:43
flocculantif we had loads of people that actually tested then I could see the reason17:43
bluesabreyeah17:43
flocculantmmm17:43
flocculantanyway - just thought I would say it for the last time this cycle :D17:43
Unit193flocculant: You're looking at beta testing, people might just try betas and if they hit something then say/report.20:22
Unit193lightdm (from lightdm) is seeded in: lubuntu-next lubuntu ubuntu-budgie ubuntu-mate ubuntukylin ubuntustudio xubuntu20:24
Unit193Hrm, I told someone I'd give 'em new garcon..20:28
flocculantlol20:29
flocculantUnit193: and possibly - but no way of knowing that I know of20:31
Unit193I'll have to do another upgrade to artful soon though.20:34
Unit193...And rebuild most/all of my archive(s). :320:34
flocculant:)20:35
Unit193I don't suppose you'll want to do a test install of garcon before?20:48
flocculantI can in the morning assuming you refer to -offtopic 20:50
Unit193Meant before checking out, but honestly it doesn't really matter as it didn't make it for artful either way.20:51
flocculantI'll pop back to the other install if you want20:51
flocculantcos mpd fighting back and I can't be bothered now :D20:52
flocculantand back20:52
Unit193Gah, builders are slow today..20:54
flocculantmorning then :p20:55
flocculantis this the garcon in gtk3 ppa? 20:55
flocculantand will that then let me install libgarcon-dev?20:55
Unit193Should.20:55
Unit193...Once the builders catch up and finally build it.20:56
flocculantok - I'll look first thing then20:56
flocculant:)20:56
flocculantassuming then that it'll let me make uninstall 20:56
flocculantanyway - night and thanks for building that :)20:57
Unit193Well crap, updating was a bad idea.21:56
Unit193http://paste.openstack.org/show/620241 think something in there is evil.22:01
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bluesabreUnit193, what broke?23:12
Unit193Every single thing is now on the desktop in regards to /dev /sys, etc.23:12
bluesabre:D23:13
Unit193thunar too, of course.23:32
Unit193Waaaaaaait, downgrading *did* help.  Kick out garcon and it's not so bad.23:33
Unit193...And re-upgrade that, can't get them back.  Help, bluesabre!23:37
bluesabreso, garcon breakage?23:38
Unit193I just upgraded that again, and the issue didn't come back though.23:39
Unit193And when I downgraded, the issue didn't go away right then.23:39
Unit193This, this is why I'm not part of QA. :D23:39
bluesabreWonky23:39

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