[00:00] courrier: did you ask a question? [00:00] no, wait [00:01] If I'm the maintainer of the package HotPotato, I'll ahve to tell, for every distro and every distro release, what version of HotPotato should be in the repository, correct? [00:01] courrier: generally, yes. [00:01] courrier: although as the maintainer of HotPotato package, that doesn't mean you maintain it in every distro [00:02] nacc: I wouldn't say that's true [00:03] courrier: you're wording things weird again. If you are the maintainer of the package HotPotato, you are the maintainer of the package for Ubuntu. Not for other distros [00:03] tgm4883: yeah, i caveated after, when i re-read it [00:03] typically there is an upstream maintainer and a maintainer (or group of maintainers) in each distribution where it's present [00:06] tgm4883: I'm wording things this way cause I don't know how it works, know I know. By "maintainer" I initially meant the developers of HotPotato, but maintainers are other people [00:06] Now I got it [00:07] courrier: if you are the developer of hotpotato, you make your software and release it. It's up to the maintainer of the packages (eg. the maintainer of the package hotpotato for ubuntu) that decides what version goes in each distro release [00:09] Cool, that's clear [00:09] Thx tgm4883 nacc :) [00:10] I'm glad all these people are doing that job for me though :D [00:18] im trying to mount an img file, help would be appreciated. more info here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25447967/ [00:27] hellp the file is located in downloads cdrom usb an ext drive? [00:28] Plasticbox, I dont understand the question [00:28] where is the file [00:30] the image is in /home/sherman/damagedusb/damaged-usb.img [00:30] but I am already in /home/sherman/damagedusb [00:30] have you changed the file name? [00:32] is it on a usb drive? [00:32] err. no, the image name has not been changed [00:32] no, im working on a copy I made, the image is in the directory I wrote [00:33] the original in the usb drive is kept away,not to further damage it [00:33] I see okay [00:41] I'm lazy so I use removable media and boot live cd's on a non production machine and use something like systemresuecd === Schnabeltierchen is now known as Guest10877 [00:45] or just old school mount /path/to/your/iso/file/somefile.iso -t iso9660 -o loop /mnt/whatever [00:46] Plasticbox, it is an .img [00:46] right click an open it [00:46] with what application? [00:47] use the browser or mousepad [00:47] hellp, try 'mount -t vfat -o r,force,loop,offset=32256 damaged-usb.img mnt' [00:47] view it [00:47] damaged does give red flags right? [00:48] try and upload it to an img site [00:49] I right click the .img, I get a list of application to open it with, none of them work [00:49] ledeni, thanks, but I get mount: mount point mnt does not exist [00:50] right [00:51] hellp, what DE you using? [00:51] so if uploading it to tinypic.com doesn't work it may be broken [00:51] ledeni, what does DE mean? [00:52] hellp: desktop environment, e.g., gnome, kde, etc. [00:52] nacc, a, xfce ledeni [00:54] photorec works if it's not already messed up [01:02] hellp, try to find application and install 'udiskie' it is disk auto-mounter [01:07] hey [01:09] whats up [01:12] hellp, and 'xarchiver' [01:12] cool [01:20] Hoi [01:20] installing ubuntu now [01:20] issues [01:20] pls help [01:22] big issues [01:24] ai101, ask, wait and see [01:24] It says i have windows boot manager on my system [01:25] and it just says "erase disk and install ubuntu" [01:25] wtf === jamie_2 is now known as jamie_1 === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:02] Hi, i have a ralink wifi usb stick but it won't show when doing lsusb, on my macbook it shows. any idea what i should try? [02:03] at the moment i just get this: Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub [02:03] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub [02:03] i plugged it in the 2.0 [02:04] of course iqconfig also doesn't list anything [02:04] *iwconfig [03:20] i have this ubuntu machine where gnome won't start anymore, does anyone have the time to help me fix it? startx brings up lxde or something, no menus, i can open a terminal and run firefox and use it, but there's no task switching, etc. [03:20] gnome-session just sits there, no output [03:44] anyone familiar with lvm? [03:45] If I have a LVM consisting of multiple drives and I have more free space than is the size of a drive I want to remove, can I remove that drive without data loss? [03:54] can I (easily) create a live cd with a persitent and encrypted home? === chalcedny is now known as chalcedony === rkta_ is now known as rkta [05:14] I've been trying to use '>' to pipe terminal output from a program to a file and use 'tail -f' to monitor it, however I've noticed that the file is not actually written until the program finishes, this leads me to believe the behavior of the '>' is not as expected [05:27] jack3k3: > isn't pipe [05:30] meant redirection [05:30] but regardless, found a workaround by using the script command [05:30] ok [05:30] guess its due to buffering anyway [05:37] Hi [05:40] I want to output the display from cpu to with ubuntu to laptop screen [05:40] laptop with ubuntu === iczero is now known as orezci [05:47] any one ? [05:58] people, I have a 460MB .gz database file that I would like to upload somewhere to make it available to people to simply download. Is there an online ftp or cloud service that I can do this with (something that will keep the file perminantly rather than expire after a certain time?). [06:25] Ubuntu 16.04. Ethernet interface will occasionally drop after a half hour of inactivity. [06:25] Any troubleshooting ideas? [06:25] people, I have a 460MB .gz database file that I would like to upload somewhere to make it available to people to simply download. Is there an online ftp or cloud service that I can do this with (something that will keep the file perminantly rather than expire after a certain time?). [06:25] acresearch: not on topic here [06:26] Ben64: where can i go then? [06:26] dunno, but it's definitely not an ubuntu issue [06:42] hi [06:43] how do I bridge connections on ubuntu [06:43] ? [06:43] can you clarify what you mean by bridge connections? bridge between network interfaces? [06:45] yes [06:46] Here are detailed instructions. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge [06:48] It's fairly simple. [06:48] Is it possible to do between ethernet and wireless [06:48] ? [06:49] I don't have any experience, but I don't see why not. [07:15] dicks dicks dicks [07:16] neato [07:17] Herdo is a dick [07:17] eat yourself fag [07:23] salve ho un problema con al scheda wireless di un pc su ubuntu 17.04 [07:23] !es | stevr2it_ [07:23] stevr2it_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [07:24] hey i am running ryzen 1700 with linux live usb ubuntu 17.04, but when i type lscpu in the terminal it only shows me using 1 cpu, how do i enable all the cpu's/threads? [07:24] ok sorry, i have a problem with wireless of a pc and ubuntu 17.04 it does not whow any wirelees ent [07:25] show [07:25] i have tried some solutions available on the web but none helped me [07:26] ubuntu recognize the wireless card but does not show any network and the wireless card on gnome or unity desktop [07:27] ducasse can you help me? [07:27] heh, i tried some cmds online as well, but couldn't enable any more cpu's, kinda dumb how they only detect 1 processor, why the heck would they ever do that for [07:38] PlusMinus: what is the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' ? [07:39] post it to pastebin.com, then share the link here [07:46] PlusMinus: I suggest that you test with 17.10 (dev release) [07:46] it comes with a newer kernel [07:54] hmm. hold on let me get the screenshot [07:55] screenshot? [07:56] PlusMinus: you dont [07:57] you don't need to take a screenshot. just copy the output and paste in pastebin [07:57] what? i saved a screenshot of the lscpu info [07:57] OK whatever works for you [07:57] oh i can't do that no now, i already took out the gpu and put it back into this system [07:57] it's weird to take a picture of text [07:58] PlusMinus: you can also try a mainline kernel [07:58] !mainline | PlusMinus [07:58] PlusMinus: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [08:01] https://imgur.com/a/ZlRih [08:01] i am new to linux, so i don't really know much about these cmds, took me awhile just to figure out how to get linux to boot on ryzen [08:02] yeah you probably want to try a newer ubuntu [08:02] but why would ubuntu only detect and use 1 cpu by default? [08:03] because it has an older kernel [08:04] hmm, how old could that kernal be, it didn't detect dual or quad from before? [08:04] it doesn't know about ryzen [08:04] k [08:05] i couldn't get it to load up the sensors to detect my temps as well, kept getting errors, should have taken SS of those as well [08:05] pastebin [08:06] i can copy/paste those errors from the terminal? [08:06] yep, to a paste service [08:06] but it doesn't really matter, try something with a newer kernel [08:07] k, yah when i tried to make a txt file etc, when i right click on the desktop, it wouldn't give me no option to make a txt file only create a new folder, so could't even do that, heh [08:07] ok, will grab 17.10 [08:07] i just grabbed 17.04 like 3 days ago [08:07] the newest hwe in 16.04 has 4.11 [08:08] i dont see no 17.10 only see 17.04 [08:08] https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop [08:09] 17.10 is under development - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current [08:10] is this the file i want? artful-desktop-amd64.iso [08:10] yes [08:10] k === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [08:11] i had to put acpi=off in the cmd line when i booted up 17.04 will i need to do it with 17.10? [08:11] that causes problems [08:12] if i don't put acpi=off with 17.04 it wouldn't boot kept giving me interupt 7 errors [08:12] probably because your cpu wasn't supported [08:13] cruddy, yah i was reading up and found out that linux is having issues with gigabyte boards [08:14] and then giga goes out and rls a shitty bios that is frying some ppl's systems, heh [08:15] ok, well thx for the help, i will test out 17.10 and report what i find out, GN! [08:19] PlusMinus: I was just about to ask you that. [08:20] turning acpi=off will cause this 1 core problem you are having [08:32] is there a way to see the free space of individual drives on logical volume in LVM? [09:31] howdy [09:31] My speakers aren't detected in Linux when plugged into the monitor's audio jack. [09:31] Still confirmed. [09:32] Plugged speakers into monitor's audio jack. Speakers not detected. Laptop audio jack detected fine. [09:32] But that limits me to 1 headphone jack. [09:39] Is this a driver issue? [09:39] Hi there. I run ubuntu 16.04 LTS on a macbook and have problems with xbacklight. When I do: xbacklight -dec 20 I get "No outputs have backlight property"... I googled a lot already but can't find something that works for me [09:48] <|subz3r0|> hi [09:48] <|subz3r0|> after installing a DE on ubuntu server 16.04, after a reboot no desktop comes up. its bootin in the cli again. any ideas? [09:52] |subz3r0|, what de you using? [09:56] <|subz3r0|> mate [09:57] |subz3r0|: how did you install mate? [09:58] <|subz3r0|> mate-desktop without recommends [10:00] |subz3r0|, try startx to see it come up [10:01] <|subz3r0|> startx is not installed [10:04] you probably lack a display manager [10:05] <|subz3r0|> lightdm-gtk-greeter is fine? [10:05] <|subz3r0|> or do i need the whole lightdm? [10:07] Hello , irc can't connect with mobile hotspot :) [10:07] Please anyone tell me why [10:07] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: I guess you should provide us more details what's not working exactly. [10:08] |subz3r0|: lightdm-gtk-greeter should pull in lightdm anyway [10:09] Okay sir : Urunbu Pidgin use wifi from mobile phone [10:09] |subz3r0|: you need any x-display-manager (that's a meta package you can search for) [10:09] <|subz3r0|> brainwash: i installed now xinit and lightdm-gtk-greeter... its still not bootin in the DE [10:09] Wep/wep2 personal [10:09] |subz3r0|: and you also need X, of course. [10:10] I can receive email and visit websites [10:10] |subz3r0|: if you choose lightdm, lightdm-gtk-greeter is not enough [10:10] |subz3r0|: does the greeter load? [10:11] And pidgin works well under wifi when I have WiFi route [10:12] <|subz3r0|> brainwash: no [10:13] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: are you sure your provider is not blocking it? Which irc client do you use? what errors does it show you? [10:13] |subz3r0|: I would try this: sudo systemctl start lightdm [10:14] I use Pidgin [10:14] And it works fine in normal wifi [10:14] But can't connect when I use mobile phone hotspot [10:14] <|subz3r0|> brainwash: i can see now the greeter. but it looks horrible and i cannot login with my credentials [10:15] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: everything else is working, right? [10:15] Sometimes I make a wifi hotspot by my mobile phone , [10:15] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: yeah, but that should not be the issue [10:15] Yes. Everything good [10:15] Expect IRC [10:16] <|subz3r0|> please pastebin following commands from terminal [10:16] |subz3r0|: uhm. the theme can be changed I guess. maybe the wrong keyboard layout is selected, so check the keyboard indicator in the top bar [10:16] <|subz3r0|> 1. ifconfig 2. route -n 3. ping -c3 google.com [10:17] smithmail: reconfigure the pidgin IRC module to connect to Freenode on port 6697 and to use SSL [10:17] <|subz3r0|> this way we can see your network config, if name res works and the set routes [10:17] Well. Everything okay but pidgin [10:17] |subz3r0|: to enable lightdm permanently, run: sudo systemctl enable lightdm [10:18] <|subz3r0|> brainwash: what packages do i exactly need to install minimal mate desktop after a fresh ubuntu install? Just standard system utilities are isntalled [10:19] |subz3r0|: I think that you need to install with recommends [10:19] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: also do a ping to the irc server from CLI and paste it [10:19] <|subz3r0|> brainwash: but i dont want to install all this bloatware [10:20] |subz3r0| installing a window manager requires a ton of extra packages, you'll need them all [10:20] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: you will give us the info now or not? [10:20] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: since its pretty hard to investigate issues with just explanations like "it's not working, but the other way it does..." [10:20] |subz3r0|: then it's just "mate" [10:21] <|subz3r0|> ddellav: but i installed it [10:22] <|subz3r0|> ddellav: mate-desktop (without recommends), lightdm-gtk-greeter, lightdm [10:22] <|subz3r0|> that should be sufficient under normal circumstances. so actually im not sure whats missing [10:23] if its in recommends then you don't need it [10:25] <|subz3r0|> i give "mate" a shot [10:26] <|subz3r0|> ddellav, brainwash: the thing is, i dont need or want to install all the bloat like firefox, thunderbird, screensaver, libre office, ... [10:26] so then don't, i guess i don't see the issue [10:27] so, problem solved? [10:27] <|subz3r0|> still dl-ing [10:27] ok [10:27] |subz3r0|, get the mini iso and build up [10:28] |subz3r0|, put lxqt lxde/opnbox on that [10:28] !mini | |subz3r0| [10:28] |subz3r0|: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [10:28] <|subz3r0|> bazhang: correct me when im wrong. but i guess when i select there the DE, for example mate, it will install all the unwanted apps i don't want to get installed on the system [10:29] |subz3r0|, it wont [10:29] <|subz3r0|> also i dont want lxde, because it looks horrible ;) [10:29] <|subz3r0|> I use it in different types of settings, but not for that machine [10:29] so get the mini [10:30] you've not even tried lxqt [10:33] <|subz3r0|> bazhang: Because it looks as shitty as lxde does [10:33] |subz3r0|, no cursing here [10:33] <|subz3r0|> I dont need or want a super light weight DE on that machine [10:38] |subz3r0|, why not install 'sudo apt-get install xinit' and with startx load mate [10:40] <|subz3r0|> ledeni: already done. the greeter looks horrible and it wont accept my credentials. connecting via ssh works fine instead === rax-Y is now known as rax- [10:45] |subz3r0|, try 'dpkg-reconfigure lightdm' [11:30] When is ubuntu comming with Gnome? [11:31] !17.10 [11:31] Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) will be the 27th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released in October 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 === def_jam is now known as eb0t [11:48] morning, i'm look into saving some power with a hp gen 8 microserver and ubuntu 16.04. according to my UPS its using ~60Watts when idle... would like to lower that if possible [11:49] try removing the CPU [11:49] hehe ;) [11:49] :P [11:50] its a E3-1265L [11:52] shutting down cores or lowering the frequ would be good... additionally it looks like the two md raid1 i have are not going to sleep [13:09] am I now in? [13:13] thats what he said [13:18] I have a Gigabit controller in my laptop. but in Network connection information it says it is 100Mb/s. I plugged the same cable into a Windows 7 laptop and connection was 1Gb/s. any ideas why the Ubuntu (Lubuntu actually) is not utilising the network card to its full potential? [13:19] Ascavasaion: chipset? [13:19] so, where else could I post a thread about data recovery? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2370295&p=13682116#post13682116 [13:20] ducasse: lspci gives "Realtek... ... ... RTL8101/2/6E" and connection Information gives "Driver 8169" [13:22] Ascavasaion: that's a common problem with that chipset IIRC, try doing some searches like 'realtek 8169 only 100mbps' etc, and I'm sure you'll find something relevant. i'm a bit busy now, or i'd do it for you. [13:23] ducasse: Aaah, thank you... will do... and come back and bother you again if I do not come right :-) [13:23] Ascavasaion: iirc, there is an alternative driver available that works in some scenarios === ShalokShalom_ is now known as ShalokShalom [13:43] What is the difference between usage of 'sudo' and 'sudo -'. I had studied that it has some minor difference and is related to login prompt [14:09] Hi. Let's say my ubuntu loop at the login screen (even if my password is good), what logs should I read to find out what happens? [14:09] (ubuntu 17.04, migrated from 12.04, but the installation failed at the grub installation, but I can still manage to boot to ubuntu) [14:10] ducasse: I just checked the Lenovo website... This laptop only has a 10/100 Mbs network card... how sucky. [14:10] Anyone know if ethernet cards can be upgraded? [14:10] In a laptop. [14:12] Ascavasaion: no. You could get a USB network card [14:13] tgm4883: Sigh... what a disappointment. Thank you. [14:18] Reventlov: you went through 10 upgrades to get to 17.04? [14:18] well, yeah, sinec the 17.04 iso proposed so. [14:18] « update to 17.04 » [14:18] also bios -> uefi I think. [14:19] Reventlov: was it a fresh install or did you go through 10 upgrades? because 12.04 will most certainly not prompt you to upgrade to 17.04 [14:19] It was a boot to the ubuntu 17.04 iso, and they proposed me to update the 12.04 to ubuntu 17.04, in the installation prompt [14:19] leftyfb: the 17.04 installer prompted the upgrade it sounds like [14:20] Reventlov: does guest mode work? [14:20] tgm4883: 12.04 will not prompt for 17.04 [14:20] ah, ok [14:20] leftyfb: that's not what I said [14:21] Reventlov: as tgm4883 suggestion, try guest mode or try creating a new user and logging in with that. If either of those work, then this might be an easy fix [14:21] Hello, my sd-card is randomly remounting as ro. because of a very small internal onchip ssd i moved my /home on an sd card. sometimes it goes ro and i have to restart my laptop. someone know this issue ? [14:22] ChaosD: possible bad SD card. I do not recommend putting your /home or anything important on an SD card. [14:23] leftyfb i had to, my internal is just 16 gb [14:23] leftyfb can i check if the sdcard is bad ? [14:23] ChaosD: ok, then this is the issue you're going to continue to run into [14:24] ChaosD: look at dmesg [14:27] I found something: [14:27] [21006.415286] usb 2-4: string descriptor 0 read error: -22 [14:27] [ 3.419070] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found [14:27] [ 3.419076] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [14:28] for more i have maybe wait till the remount === juboxi is now known as jubo2 [14:47] leftyfb can it possibly have something to do with some usb energy saving features? i think it happens only on low bat. [14:47] but im not sure [14:55] ChaosD: can you not connect external storage using usb or something? which hardware is this? [15:00] tomreyn i have a toshiba chromebook cb 30 with an build in sd card reader. a usb storage is a bit unhandy for portable usage. [15:00] and a sdcard is internaly like an usb device or not ? so, where is the difference ? [15:02] ChaosD, yes sdcard is most likely useing usb to connect but the speed of the media is the real difference [15:03] sd cards have quite limited write cycles. they are okay for storing medium to large files temporarily, but not for storing data in the long run, nor for extensive create / remove cycles. [15:04] an external SSD or HDD could last much longer and provide faster writes [15:04] well, just the SSD, not the HDD [15:05] hdd would be faster than sdcard [15:06] possibly, depends [15:06] Later all [15:07] but sadly i neither can exchange my onchip ssd nor tape a usb device on the back of my laptop :D [15:11] 16 GB can actually be fine for ubuntu.you could place a subdirectory of your home directory (e.g. 'Downloads' or 'Music') on your SD card, as long as you regularly back that up [15:26] I'm having issues installing the AMDGPU-Pro driver. https://pastebin.com/j1eytfEu any suggestions? [15:28] Are these drivers compatible with 17.04+? [15:30] CountryfiedLinux, did you run updates before installing? and did you add any ppa or used the driver from the amd site? [15:30] sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [15:32] oerheks, Just to rule out this issue, could it be because I'm on the 17.10 live session? [15:32] hi all, i'm having networking issues and I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. basically, I can't get internet over a wired ethernet connection. problem is specific to my ubuntu setup as the same ethernet cable works fine when plugged into my windows laptop. happy to provide details on what i have tried so far, if someone has a minute to help me sort this out [15:32] Hi, question regarding rsync. I am executing rsync with options --backup and --backup-dir=.../`date +\%Y\%m\%d_\%H\%M\%S`/. Now, for every execution of rsync, all files are copied in the backup directory, and not only the changed files. Why is that? I also added the -a and --delete parameters. [15:33] And I more recently read that the AMD Carrizo chips have AMDGPU-Pro support by default. [15:33] tomreyn, the problem is texlive, which let me alive with 700 mb on / [15:33] CountryfiedLinux, live session.. yeah, never done that before.. and for 17.10, join #ubuntu+1 for support until release [15:33] ok thanks [15:34] I just haven't had success having audio from my monitor's audio jack and found a link that suggested installing the AMDGPU-Pro driver, then later read that it should be installed by default if supported. [15:35] linuxnoob011: can you paste this one line, lspci | grep Ethernet to find which chip you have [15:35] yasonTR: because you're copying it to a new directory every time. There's nothing to compare to. [15:35] open amdgpu yes, closed pro-driver not [15:35] !amd [15:35] Open driver for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2) fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units . For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD [15:36] pavlos yes, one second--walking back over to the ubuntu comp [15:36] leftyfb: makes sense... I want to achieve that a file is 'archived' when a new version is detected... is that possible? [15:36] I have an AMD A10-8700p. [15:36] yasonTR: not with rsync alone [15:36] yasonTR: https://github.com/leftyfb/backup_script/blob/master/backup.sh [15:37] yasonTR: I'ven been using that script for years. Feel free to use it or modify it to your needs [15:37] oerheks, So my hardware should be good to go by default? [15:37] pavlos can't copy and paste (not internet on the other computer), but it is a Qualcomm Atheros QCA8171 Gigabit Ethernet card [15:37] card worked a day ago on another internet connection. just moved to a new apartment and currently having trouble getting internet [15:37] leftyfb: many thanks, I will take a look! [15:38] CountryfiedLinux, if the amdgpu driver is loaded, yes. [15:39] linuxnoob011: do you have DHCP from your router (if it worked in another place, the config is probably ok) [15:39] oerheks, What do you mean if it is loaded? [15:39] amdgpu is loaded by default, else the open radeon driver. [15:39] pavlos internet connection on current modem/router works on other computers, both wireless and wired [15:39] but you should join #ubuntu+1 [15:40] oerheks, How do I check? [15:40] so think dhcp settings on the router fine. that said, dont think my ubuntu comp is actually getting a lease [15:40] I'm asking in regards to 17.04. I will boot it up next. [15:40] linuxnoob011: which ubuntu release, kernel (paste lsb_release -a and uname -r [15:41] driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' [15:41] 16.04.2 LTS (xenial); 4.10.0-33-generic [15:41] ok thanks [15:41] pavlos ^ [15:42] It says amdgpu driver in use. [15:43] Kernel driver in use: amdgpu [15:43] So that means I have it loaded? [15:44] I don't know the difference between amdgpu and amdgpu-pro. [15:44] will rsnapshot work on ubuntu 16.04? [15:45] linuxnoob011: try sudo modprobe alx (you can see the modules loaded with lsmod [15:46] a lot to re-type. let me see if i can throw in a usb wireless card and connect from the ubuntu comp [15:46] is it ok if i brb in 2 mins pavlos? [15:46] sure [15:46] Is amdgpu and amdgpu-pro the same thing? Am I using the supported driver or the dead one? [15:46] leftyfb: my internal cardreader disconnects, not my sdcard. i got ro and dmesg shows that my dev 4 on bus 2 disconnects an after a few ms it reconnects as dev 6 on bus 2. [15:49] CountryfiedLinux, take a read firsthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver [15:49] i already explained [15:50] ok thanks [15:51] I didn't clearly understand but that articled answered my question. [15:54] hi pavlos--having a hard time getting my wireless to work through ubuntu as well, so i will retype as necessary [15:55] the commands you last asked me to run returns a long output--is there anything in particular you are looking for? [15:55] linuxnoob011: your card should work with 16.04 and that kernel [15:55] agreed--and it has as recently as 48 hours ago [15:55] linuxnoob011: the modprobe adds a module just in case it was not loaded ... lsmod lists all the modules you have [15:56] ah, i see [15:56] so i had a semi-complex network setup before [15:56] linuxnoob011: can you boot with another kernel? [15:56] linuxnoob011: what is semi-complex? [15:56] i had a split tunnel vpn set up. not sure i would have changed anything that would affect basic connectivity [15:57] i mean, i undid the obvious things, like the static ip address to a gateway that no longer exists [15:57] but if there are other sanity checks i should do, i'm happy to run them [15:57] and i'm sure i can figure out how to boot to another kernel. maybe 4.8? [15:57] linuxnoob011: look at your /etc/network/interfaces [15:58] it's set back to a vanilla version [15:58] both the loopback interface and the ehternet are set to auto [15:58] and the ethernet to use dhcp [15:58] linuxnoob011: to boot another kernel, during boot press the left shift so that the grub menu comes up and you select older kernel [15:59] linuxnoob011: auto eth0 inet dhcp (or another device enp2s0 [15:59] ah, wasn't sure if i'd have to download an old kernel [15:59] i'll try to boot up an old version now [15:59] linuxnoob011: the kernels you have are in /boot [16:00] HI folks [16:00] pavlos already restarting. i should have checked /boot first. i think i purged after my last upgrade [16:00] linuxnoob011: are you using Network Manager to manage your connections? [16:00] usually, no. but right this second, yes. [16:01] basically, i tried to undo as much as my added complexity as possible and revert to base settings [16:01] linuxnoob011: if so, the interfaces file should just have auto lo iface lo inet loopback [16:02] ah, fair point. i'll change that on reboot [16:02] linuxnoob011: you plugged a usb wifi and it did not pick up wireless ? [16:03] it did not, but i'm not certain the card works natively with linux [16:04] pavlos unfortunately, i'm having trouble booting into an older kernel. the left half of my screen is dead, so i can't tell what the boot options are. and plugging into an external didn't work [16:04] linuxnoob011: ifconfig lists just lo, no other network, right? [16:04] when i'm back booted up, i'll confirm [16:05] think ifconfig lists my ethernet device [16:05] enp7s0 [16:05] linuxnoob011: but no ip? [16:05] if i manually assign it one [16:05] it will show a local network ip [16:05] i.e., if i give a static ip in /etc/network/intefaces [16:06] linuxnoob011: Network Manager should manage that if the wired connection is set to as DHCP [16:06] linuxnoob011: top right of screen, properties of the wired connection [16:07] i'm going to try to boot into my usual kernel. i'll start network manager (it is not set to run by default so i have to start it on boot) pavlos [16:07] and i will confirm my interfaces file only configures the loopback device [16:07] linuxnoob011: ok [16:10] pavlos ok, all that is done [16:10] pinging google returns an unknown host error [16:10] ifconfig shows two network devices [16:10] my ethernet card (no ip address) [16:10] and the loopback device [16:11] linuxnoob011: if you look at the NM properties of the wired connection, the ipv4 settings should be DHCP. can you verify? [16:11] hmm, the network manager menu is all greyed out [16:12] i cannot edit the connections [16:12] pavlos never mind--just took a bit for network manager to come up i guess. the options are no longer greyed out [16:13] linuxnoob011: your system is able to see the atheros card, it assigns enp7s0, the issue is you dont get dhcp and probably dns [16:13] pavlos good intuition--the NM was set to manual [16:13] changed it back to DHCP [16:13] looks like i have an ip address on the ethernet card now [16:13] linuxnoob011: connection info might tell you your ip [16:13] but pinging googles till returns an unknown host [16:14] ah, just noticed: [16:14] i now have an avahi profiled device [16:14] i stil don't know what avahi is--i just usually try to avoid it [16:14] linuxnoob011: can you ping 8.8.8.8 [16:14] pavlos: no--unreachable [16:14] linuxnoob011: what ip did you get [16:15] i'll pm my IP--one sec [16:16] just sent over PM [16:17] linuxnoob011: saw it, this is a local ip [16:42] does anyone here uses radiotray? do you still have access to SKY.fm? thanks [16:55] I'm trying to make changes to nautilus and I need a little guidance. To start with I'm trying to find where a tooltip is used. I've found the tooltip and it references a c file that doesn't seem to exist. I've downloaded a few versions and in each case the file(s) a tooltip in en_GB.po references doesn't exist for example ../src/nautilus-window-menus.c:548 [17:01]