[00:00] We don't support all of the devices that Canonical or community porters did. [00:02] Aaaaaa, the 'otter' links are broken, hence why I got here. I think I'm skrewed w/ this KF gen 1 [00:03] Oh you guys are talking about the Kindle fire [00:04] Yes [00:05] on the xda-dev site the download link http://goo.im/devs/Hashcode/otter/ub...0227-otter.zip is broken n I can't find otter zip anywhere [00:06] In any case, it'd probably be a very old version [00:06] Not much good anyway [00:07] any ideas where I could find a more up to date 'otter'? [00:07] yeah, looks like nothing was working on it when he released anyway, no wifi, no sound... [00:09] familiar wair I could get a more up to date 'otter'? [00:09] with that much ram, I doubt anyone would put time into it [00:11] very good, thanks for your help.....chow [00:13] well, no luck finding the orginal zip here either 😕 [00:26] Project daily-hammerhead build #309: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-hammerhead/309/ [00:28] Project ota-push build #951: SUCCESS in 1 min 53 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/951/ [02:23] Question, how do I give a port unhindered root privileges [02:23] A port? [02:25] I'm trying to sync to a repo but I'm getting errors saying I don't have root privileges [02:25] Sudo su not allowing me to get past the error [02:26] Do you have a more specific error? [02:26] Maybe pastebin the log? [02:34] Waiting for it to pop up [02:34] This isn't for UBports, it's for SFOS [02:35] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/RpGmGIUI/file_345.jpg [02:35] I have no idea what any of those errors are. [02:35] This group has better response times [02:36] Yep, that build system is something I've never seen. [02:36] Maybe @NotKit has an idea, but he's probably in the SFOS group too [02:36] And asleep [02:37] @UniversalSuperBox have any of you guys ever screen recorded yourselves working on a port? I know it'd be long and drawn out but still kind of cool. [02:38] @kz6fittycent, You know, we had that exact discussion today after the Community Update ended. We haven't done it yet, but it's something we want to do. [02:38] It's actually about half of the reason for me buying the new mic. [02:39] I missed the update, but will watch it later. … If you record it, and need some help editing it down, I am willing to do so. [02:39] Awesome. I'm writing up the notes from the Update, so if you'd prefer to read rather than watch, we'll have you covered [02:40] I am a visual guy...reading helps too, but if I see someone working, I typically get it faster. I know there are others like me... [02:40] Totally get that. [02:40] So I get to "follow" along. Plus, many of the written guides miss things. The little things that devs assume others might know OR they just get overlooked. [02:41] if a video was out there from start to end, even if it were divided into segments 1, 2, 3, 4 that'd be awesome. … Solus is doing that to help people start packaging apps for their OS and it's great. [02:42] they include the written guides and show you step by step how to build a package. So, you're getting both at once [02:43] (Photo, 1024x802) https://irc.ubports.com/S0VP9V06/file_347.jpg I might be way ahead of you on that [02:45] @UniversalSuperBox, Can i use this guide for porting Ubuntu touch os?will this work? [02:45] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlPnHjUBpJ8 [02:46] @UniversalSuperBox above is one of their videos for building apps in Solus... [02:46] @DIVYANSH747, Well, that will definitely be the guide for 16.04. It was revealed in today's Q&A that it might work for 15.04 (current) images too, but we need a lot more investigation [02:46] granted, porting is MUCH more involved than packaging existing applications in most cases... [02:47] @UniversalSuperBox, For 16.04 which android ver base is required? [02:47] @DIVYANSH747, Halium. LOS-12.1 or 14.1 [02:48] @UniversalSuperBox, Thnx bro ;) [02:48] A successful port also means you get to run Plasma Mobile and many more (coming soon) [02:57] @UniversalSuperBox, I'd assume the reverse is true as well [02:57] Regarding their port for the 5x [02:57] @kz6fittycent, Halium is the common Android compatibility layer for a buncha GNU/Linux based mobile OS's now. [02:58] It's not ready for prime-time yet, but neither are the OS's that implement it for the most part. [02:59] True [02:59] Especially not our 16.04. [02:59] :P [03:01] @UniversalSuperBox, Ba dum tsss [03:01] 😝 [03:01] @UniversalSuperBox, Btw nice idea!! [03:08] @bhushanshah, d'aw [03:08] thanks [03:33] @UniversalSuperBox, Do you use windows? And when are planning to release these videos? [04:27] Project vivid-rootfs-armhf build #114: SUCCESS in 1.7 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/vivid-rootfs-armhf/114/ [04:27] Project ota-push build #952: SUCCESS in 0.62 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/952/ [04:48] Fwd from nfsprodriver: Filemanager fixes === JanC is now known as Guest3516 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [06:58] @nfsprodriver, Looks awesome! Great work! [08:02] @nfsprodriver, Great!!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍 Thankss! 😃 [08:23] Project daily-fp2 build #327: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-fp2/327/ [08:24] Project ota-push build #953: SUCCESS in 1 min 12 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/953/ [08:25] @nfsprodriver, Very nice! We need to browse the open tickets for filemanager, probably we can close a few of them now ;) [08:27] @nfsprodriver, Hi Bjarne, is there any way to select multiple files without a mouse? like a ctrl + select behaviour? [08:28] @Vijay, It's VS Code, proprietary smart text editor from Microsoft. It's cross platform. So no, it's now Windows. [08:29] @nfsprodriver, It's 5 minutes and 300 mb [08:35] @vanyasem, VS Code is great. [08:35] No, it's not [08:36] It's non-free software from Microsoft, I refuse to install it [08:36] Atom is great. [08:41] @vanyasem, +1000 [08:42] plus they have a kick-ass commercial atom.io [08:42] oh no, it's no longer featured [08:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7aEiVwBAdk [08:44] vim anyone? [08:44] :P [08:45] @vanyasem, It does not simply work out to use only free software if you are in a competing market. I pay for non-free software to reach my goal faster, thats the deal. I loose the openess of course. But I simply could not get a single contract right if I used C# only on the command line. I need Visual Studio, it has a great productivity, and I am willing to pay for that as well. It helps cutting delivery times and increase the quality with lot of [08:45] automation that no other IDE has. [08:47] @vanyasem, 281.1 MB [08:47] @Flohack, You can use Rider from jetbrains for C# development, that's still `partly` non-free, but works under GNU+Linux and has more trust in it [08:47] The thing is, I am also bound to Windows as target platform :P [08:48] I used to develop .net apps for Windows using Rider under GNU+Linux [08:48] Technically only our GUI client requires windows the rest could be on a Linux server hmm [08:49] Still I can only take what IT department gives me ;) [08:49] @vanyasem, You can even run it if it doesn't make any system calls [08:49] VS Code is the best text editor i've ever used. I like that the source is open and free for inspection and if i could be arsed I could build it myself. Yes the fact they ship the binary under a EULA is annoying but it's a compromise i don't actually mind if it means i can get stuff done. [09:23] @bhushanshah, Emacs here! [09:24] @DanChapman, Yeah thats the thing, the productivity guys at MS do a great job, and its hard for others to keep up. [09:25] @bhushanshah, +1 [09:25] Actually, VS Code is literally Atom but reskinned and under MIT [09:26] There's no real difference between Atom and VS Code except that GitHub tracks Atom users through Google and Microsoft tracks VS Code users their own way [09:29] @Lorxu, evidence? [09:30] A quick look at the source code shows the exact same Chromium base, but it's been a while since I had this discussion so I'd need to look at it better again [09:30] @neothethird, It is on YouTube [09:31] @vanyasem, I hope you disabled Google Analytics in it? :P [09:35] @Lorxu, Ah, turns out they only use Electron but started back when Atom and Electron weren't two different projects but a single thing, so they probably still have some Atom code in there: https://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/04/30/microsofts-cross-platform-visual-studio-code-app-is-based-on-githubs-atom-editor/ [09:37] Rather weird to make the code MIT but binaries proprietary but hey that's Microsoft for you [09:42] @Lorxu, Thanks! AFAIK a fair amount of the vscode already existed before atom and was used for the "monaco" text editor on windows azure. I didn't know they had based vscode on atom though. Google gave me luck. It's all "why use X over Y" [09:42] I am aware of Pockit but filing everything I read with Pocket doesn't appeal. Anything in UT allow for offline reading (newspapers etc)? [09:43] Search for "newsagents" in unav? 😂 [09:43] @DanChapman, Interesting, never heard of that before [09:44] @DanChapman, 😂 [09:44] @Stereofont apart from that i have no idea 😊 [09:45] Maybe some RSS reader? No clue if UT has any [10:03] (Photo, 1280x829) https://irc.ubports.com/DXAqHbLh/file_349.jpg Btw @Flohack, this is my Weblate config for adding new languages which works fine (hosted instance) [10:29] She lives on 15.04 once again!!! 😃 [10:29] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/fj418Msw/file_351.png [10:29] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/jG0910RG/file_353.png [10:29] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/7zb4hmiN/file_355.png [10:47] usharn was added by: usharn [10:49] @DanChapman (party) [10:57] Yay! 🎉🎊🎉 i love Dekko! [10:58] Wooooo [10:58] Woooooooooooooooo [10:59] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Lw7qNlq0/file_356.mp4 [11:04] @DanChapman is it ready to upgrade? [11:05] @kristijantkalec, 👏👏👏👏👏 [11:07] no not yet. That's the first time i've got it running completely with all plugins loaded on 15.04. It also needs to be launched from the command line . Trying to figure out why ubuntu-app-launch doesn't like it atm. [11:08] Ok, but it's going well. Nice to hear. Thanks 👏 [11:09] also note it won't be an upgrade but a new install. There is no upgrade path unfortunately. [11:11] Fine with me 😉 [11:14] @DanChapman, Very nice and good job. We will wait [11:23] @vanyasem, bump @Flohack [11:38] translated about 20% of Dekko strings to Russian [11:38] @vanyasem, Awesome! thanks 😊 [12:00] @Vijay, 1. No, that's VS Code … 2. When they are ready [12:13] @DanChapman, Wow! Looks great. Thanks! Can't wait installing and using it. Have my mobile email access with IMAP anyway so new install will be no problem for me... [12:55] Project daily-mako build #102: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-mako/102/ [12:56] Project ota-push build #954: SUCCESS in 48 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/954/ [12:56] observation of the day: hotspots on ubuntu touch are pretty solid [12:56] this makes me happy [13:56] BosnianBoy was added by: BosnianBoy [14:17] Tariq Abu-Hantash was added by: Tariq Abu-Hantash [14:22] Created a pull request of my filemanager changes. [14:26] @neothethird, Can confirm. Used hotspot in hone country (Germany) and in France roaming mode. Has been reliable, stable and with acceptable battery usage. Will try next week in Romania... [15:13] @DanChapman, I've translated system-settings 100% but other apps like calendar and orher, I still can not translate, [15:21] Hi, icloud calendars, contacts and mail run well and can be sync with your Ubuntu version? Can't it install yet in my Meizu.😁 [15:24] Fwd from nfsprodriver: If you want to try it out. [15:24] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/eP1Ia2uP/file_357.click [15:24] @Jaume, Calendars use CalDAV, Contacts use CardDAV and Mail uses SMTP, IMAP/POP3 [15:24] as long as it's implemented in iCloud — it should work [15:24] Fwd from Lorxu: AFAIK that's just OTP and any OTP app should work. Unfortunately many people don't know when they are using something standard-compliant that's easily replaced... [15:25] @vanyasem, And Cloud Drive probably has WebDAV support, but never used it in UBports [15:42] @vanyasem, Ok. But in Canonical version can't sync. It's one more point to install soon as I can. [15:43] If Apple screwed the implementation — there's not much we can do about it tbh [15:44] I'm not sure exactly what's the case here, as I don't use iCloud myself, but I will sure take a look at it later [15:48] @nfsprodriver, Outstanding! [15:49] Ok. While you get the two password, should be used., but with Dekko app the mail is break.contacts … The point is that I don't want to get the sync google calendars and contacts and with google. To get google sync I will stay in Android. But with Ubuntu, I suppose that you can choose to sync with google, outlook or icloud. [15:49] For Dekko and icloud you need to disable dekko using the `ID` imap extension. Look in Settings -> Incoming Server -> Server Capabilities and switch off the ID extension. Then restart and emails should now sync. iCloud is pretty broken and won't respond if you issue the ID command [15:51] if you can't access that settings screen then you can add `imap.extension.blacklist=ID` to that accounts settings group in ~/.config/dekko.dekkoproject/dekko.dekkoproject.conf [15:51] In Android there are two apps that get an excellent sync. The develouper is 'dmfs Gmbh' [15:52] @Jaume, You can choose what to use on every platform. I use Android without Gapps at all and I have my own Cloud server. [15:52] 👍 I try [15:52] icloud syncing outside of Apple products requires some hackery. It's doable but you'll have to dig into some config files on your Mac and impetus input them into whatever config file on whatever email or calendar program you're using [15:52] @kz6fittycent, agreed, apple refuses to implement the standarts properly, so things tend to break [15:53] I had to do so on my grandfather's Ubuntu machine to get calendar sync [15:53] @vanyasem, but it's not impossible, as it still uses same protocols [15:53] icloud email works fine outside of apple products. After all it's just dovecot with apple extensions put on top. [15:54] I got it all working for him and working properly [15:55] @DanChapman, I'm referring to the ability to sync ical and there have been some changes recently with their 2 factor that can hose your config [15:55] I hate Apple [15:55] ah ok [15:57] @kz6fittycent, I think your 'Apple's love' is like my feelings to google. [15:57] I hate both [15:57] Is that any better for you? [15:57] I don't like any of them [15:59] Well, an Ubuntu account like iCloud or Outlook. To work with LibreOffice. [16:05] @DanChapman, Thanks you a lot!! I get iCloud mail. … 😄 … At the moment, how can I sync contacts and calendars? [16:11] Fwd from vanyasem: Calendars use CalDAV, Contacts use CardDAV and Mail uses SMTP, IMAP/POP3 [16:11] Fwd from vanyasem: as long as they are properly implemented in iCloud — everything should work fine [16:16] Ok. But which app in Ubuntu store I can get the CalDav and CardDav? [16:17] I look for and don't find any 😅 [16:20] You can use sync-evolution for that. It's CLI based though. But you will be able to view in the default contacts/calendar apps Take a look at this script as an example https://gist.github.com/tcarrondo/c932750928c83310fd84f8376ee17f30 [16:37] @Jaume, It's a protocol, you need an implementation [16:38] You can't download a protocol, it just makes no sense [16:50] @DanChapman, How can I install that in Ubuntu Touch? [16:51] @vanyasem, I'm sorry. Don't understand the 'no sense'. [16:53] well, I suppose when I will install the UBports version, then it will be better. [16:55] @Jaume, Can you install Wi-Fi? Or you install a router that supports wireless Wi-Fi protocol? Think about it man. [16:56] But at the moment it's very good. And if Ubuntu Touch would have the same mobile's operators like Android, with the free phones, Ubuntu get more people. [16:57] You're really confused and I'm not sure I'm patient enough to explain why [16:57] @vanyasem, ok. Now I understand. Thanks. [16:58] My apologize, my english is so bad. I practice. [16:58] It's ok [17:10] Fwd from Animals on drugs: ``` _________________________________________ … / Cheer Up! Things are getting worse at a \ … \ slower rate. / … ----------------------------------------- … \ … \ .... … . ........ … . . … . . … ....... ......... … .............................. … Elephant inside ASCII snake``` [17:15] Is the spam needed [17:22] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/NRlJjt0I/file_358.mp4 [18:04] FreeInside_fr was added by: FreeInside_fr [18:05] theleafninja was added by: theleafninja [18:07] Would this be interesting for people? https://github.com/ubports/telegram-app/issues/87 [18:07] @Lorxu for example [18:08] While it is surely better-quality crypto, I'd urge against it for several reasons [18:09] 1. OTR is not multi-device friendly. Axolotl or an alternative implementation of it is much better … 2. It's not compatible with every other Telegram client, not very useful unfortunately :( [18:10] If you do it, then at least grab something like Axolotl/OMEMO? [18:10] It'd be more worth our time to get an app with OTR or Whisper methinks [18:10] Yeah I know that this is then a unique feature, but since Telegram is open-source, maybe someone would fork the official client, and you can give this to friends. [18:11] @UniversalSuperBox Riot :P [18:11] Instead of implementing it when the server doesn't support it [18:11] They have their own version of Axolotl [18:11] @UniversalSuperBox, Server doesn't matter for E2E crypto [18:11] s/server/other clients/ [18:12] @Flohack, Sure, but how useful is that? If you go that route you may as well just get your friend to install Riot or some XMPP client [18:13] Yeah, I'd mark it wontfix, out of scope. [18:13]