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m0nkey_Guys, I need a new router. Suggestions?03:18
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:42
zmoylan-piit must have blinky lights! :-P10:49
brobostigon:)10:50
brobostigonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeBox#/media/File:Pc_005.jpg those are blinky lights, :)11:00
zmoylan-pii was thinking more... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtlBZx0yV_M11:02
brobostigon:D11:05
brobostigongood film too, :)11:05
zmoylan-piback when hollywood could make comedies11:06
brobostigonoh yes.11:06
diddledanbleeping, and flashing, and bleeping15:08
penguin42?15:09
raymondillohas the login protocol changed in the last few weeks? my nick will not login via erc on freenode15:10
diddledanraise your hands if you're a freenode staff?15:10
brobostigonpenguin42: zmoylan-pi linked to this earlier, which diddledan is quoting from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtlBZx0yV_M15:11
penguin42brobostigon: Ah!15:12
brobostigon:)15:12
diddledanwho misses the days that AMD chips were drop-in compatible with intel sockets15:13
penguin42diddledan: When was that?15:13
diddledan90s15:14
penguin42I don't remember those15:16
diddledanpenguin42: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_715:16
penguin42diddledan: Interesting, I had an early Pentium 90 - I suspect it might have been the earlier Socket515:20
raymondilloIs anyone here using erc to access irc on freenode?15:31
raymondillothanks bye15:34
diddledanhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-4114062117:57
daftykinsshame17:58
zmoylan-pimaybe the north koreans just went a little nuts in the gift shop... :-P http://englishrussia.com/2011/06/22/the-russian-atomic-weapon-museum/18:34
diddledanzmoylan-pi: where do you find these random links?!18:38
zmoylan-piwhen you have insomnia you browse the web a lot... i've seen the whole thing 2-3 times by now... :-P18:40
diddledanlol18:40
diddledaneven the bit under the rug?18:40
zmoylan-piwe don't speak about under the rug links in company...18:40
penguin42especially the bit under the rug18:41
zmoylan-pibesides you can take any ordinary or extraordinary thing, add russia and bingo. you just made it weirder/better/bigger...18:43
diddledanin soviet russia, extraordinary weirdens you18:54
diddledanthat dude Jesus! https://twitter.com/rechelon/status/90441709490470092818:55
diddledanomg, oracle silently laid-off all remaining Solaris staff18:56
diddledanref: https://twitter.com/webmink/status/90441758581033369618:56
daftykinsi dunno they probably did at least ask them into their office or say 'check your email tomorrow morning' ;)18:58
penguin42one assumes they have someone to do security fixes - right?19:00
daftykinsthey'll just phone up zmoylan-pi19:00
zmoylan-pihave hammer, will travel...19:15
daftykinsthat's the spirit!19:23
zmoylan-piremember the good old days when leaks were from usb drives found in the back of taxis... :-/ https://gizmodo.com/thousands-of-job-applicants-citing-top-secret-us-govern-1798733354?IR=T19:53
penguin42it doesn't seem to take much to screw up perms on s3 does it19:54
ali1234S3 is ridiculously complicated19:55
zmoylan-piit's the cloud, it makes everything easier :-P19:55
daftykinsfriend of mine who's a dev for a large US firm said they didn't want to keep paying in-house IT support anymore, so moved all their stuff to Azure... and now pay more per month for that19:57
zmoylan-pibut some beancounter feels happier giving the money to what they think is a professional external company rather than the weirdo with the desk covered in firefly action figures...19:58
daftykins:>20:01
zmoylan-pihave you seen how shiny the brochure was?20:01
daftykinsmaybe the get-to-know-you party was that great20:03
diddledanup town girl. she's been livin in her uptown world.21:12
daftykinseh?21:13
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCuMWrfXG4E21:14
daftykinsi'm not convinced those fellas are undoing nuts for a legitimate repair!21:15
daftykinsand yeah i know it, wondered what prompted it :D21:16
diddledanjust got it in my head21:16
daftykinsin your head, in your head... now you have to play The Cranberries21:16
diddledanthis is so cute: https://twitter.com/FluffSociety/status/90445327191755980821:17
daftykins:D21:20
zmoylan-piwe have a family of foxes in the garden... full grown adults are not so fluffy21:22
diddledanthe minellium bug was a hoax, right? https://twitter.com/ProfDaveAndress/status/90445470534599065621:24
daftykinsyowzer21:26
daftykinsi'll just send my programs to Initech to be sorted, there's this guy Peter that works there...21:26
m0nkey_Anyone know anything about these APU2 boards from PCEngines?21:28
zmoylan-pithere was no millenium, it was all a hoax by the beer companies to sell booze...21:29
* diddledan spanks his m0nkey_ 21:31
m0nkey_Indeed21:31
m0nkey_You know anything about them diddledan ?21:31
diddledanI looked at them on and off but not enough that I can say much about them21:31
diddledanI liked that pfsense supported them OOTB21:31
m0nkey_I'm considering getting one to replace the Ubiquiti ER PoE21:32
daftykinsAPUs you say o021:32
diddledanyou're not getting on well with the ER?21:32
daftykinsmaybe switch to the Casualty21:32
m0nkey_UDP reordering bug causing packet loss when using UDP21:32
diddledanew21:33
diddledanthat's nassy21:33
diddledandoes anyone know of an OSS youtube downloading prog? I don't mind cli21:34
m0nkey_Considering I can get one for $161 USD, not including tax & shipping is pretty decent.21:34
m0nkey_youtube-dl21:34
m0nkey_https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/21:35
zmoylan-pii normally use extensions for web browsers for downloading youtube21:35
diddledanta21:35
m0nkey_What about this for a pfSense box? https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182855&ignorebbr=121:43
daftykinspricey21:44
daftykinsi got one of these on a mates recommendation for a clients' special holiday home setup - https://linitx.com/product/linitx-apu-1d-3nicusbrtc-pfsense-embed-firewall-kit-red/1409421:44
daftykinsoh now i've linked that i see what you asked above m0nkey_ - haha21:44
m0nkey_I just asked about the APU2 boards..21:44
daftykinsyeah i've been drinking wine, what can i say21:45
daftykinswe talking home or office setup?21:45
m0nkey_Home21:46
m0nkey_Barely none of the off the shelf routers at Best Buy have VLAN support. I have a requirement for at least 1 VLAN.21:46
m0nkey_(well, two if you count VLAN 1)21:46
m0nkey_I did try the 'router-on-a-stick' method with a HP thin client, but for some reason the thin-client doesn't support VLANs on it's broadcom NIC.21:47
zmoylan-pii'm sure the staff were really helpful... :-P21:47
daftykinswhat's the VLAN situation?21:47
m0nkey_It's because of work21:47
m0nkey_I put the work laptop on it's own vlan, because of the pre-install corporate spy ware21:48
daftykinsah so with one of the little APU2 setups you could just use the third NIC21:49
daftykinsbut mmm i'm not wholly convinced of the performance using the SD card based install, truth be told i'm going down to the Spain pad of my clients in October to finally put the machine into use again21:50
m0nkey_If I get the APU2, I'll run it on a mSATA SSD.21:50
daftykinsthat's a lot of money for a router you still have to add a wifi access point to (unless you put in some super pricey card)21:51
m0nkey_I already have an AP21:51
m0nkey_This looks like what I would want.. https://corpshadow.biz/bizstore/apu-combo-kits/apu2c4-red-combo-kit.html#/217-enclosure_type_-not_labelled/235-storage_-16gb_msata_ssd_module21:53
daftykinslooks identical :)21:55
m0nkey_Or something like this, just an HP thin client with a 4-port Intel NIC.. www.ebay.ca/itm/HP-T620-Quad-Core-5-Port-Gigabit-Firewall-Router-64Bit-4GB-RAM-16GB-SSD-pfSense-/32269639613722:08
daftykins:S22:10
daftykinshow fast is your connection btw?22:10
m0nkey_120/2022:10
diddledanhttps://www.picocluster.com/products/picocenter-4822:17
diddledanthat's a lotta pi22:17
penguin42m0nkey_: It's worth looking at some of the fanless PCs now - the bottom end fanless celeries22:19
m0nkey_has to be a very recent celeron, since pfSense 2.5 will have a hard requirement for AES-NI22:20
penguin42m0nkey_: Right, something like https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-j3160tm-itx-quad-core-intel-j3160-16ghz-ddr3-ddr3l-intel-hd-graphics-400-sata3-gbe-usb-30-thi22:25
penguin42(That's ITX I'm sure there are prebuilt etc etc)22:26
penguin42m0nkey_: and that has aes-ni: http://ark.intel.com/products/91533/Intel-Celeron-Processor-J3160-2M-Cache-up-to-2_24-GHz22:26
m0nkey_Wow, that board isn't even sold in Canada.22:28
* penguin42 assumes there are similar22:28
diddledanhow about even cheaper : https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-d1800m-integrated-dual-core-intel-celeron-j1800-241ghz-soc-ddr3-ddr3l-on-board-intel-hd-graph22:29
penguin42diddledan: Doesn't have aes-ni22:29
m0nkey_Or I get the ER-X which doesn't have the UDP reordering bug.22:37
penguin42what's that?22:37
m0nkey_https://www.amazon.ca/Ubiquiti-ER-X-UBIQUITI-Router-Black/dp/B0144R449W/22:38
m0nkey_It's like the ER PoE which I have.22:38
penguin42no I mean what bug?22:38
m0nkey_Packet loss when using UDP22:38
penguin42that's a cute beast22:38
penguin42m0nkey_: on what platform?22:38
m0nkey_For example, If I use OpenVPN using UDP I get a ton of loss when doing heavy traffic22:39
m0nkey_It's a MIPS64, running EdgeOS which is a fork of Vyatta.22:39
penguin42oh then who knows :-)22:39
m0nkey_What about one of these? https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA66K4N1753723:25
m0nkey_Put in a Pentium G4400 in it23:25
m0nkey_I already have DDR3 RAM and an SSD I could put in it.23:26

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