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MarianoAlipiHey, guys. I have a question. I own a 2011 MacBook Pro. I have OS X and Windows 10 installed via Boot Camp. Can I add Ubuntu for a triple boot?00:02
Herdopiremi: apt is just newer, but yes, for the most part apt can be used in most cases rather than apt-get.  apt-get should still be used inside of scripts you write however.00:15
Herdoapt also has a progress bar :)00:16
jefferlooking for help configuring/overclocking nvidia cards - more specifically changing settings for a non-active cards. i can change the value for the video card im using but not the other ones.00:20
bazhangjeffer, using which ubuntu software00:21
jefferis that a hint?00:21
bazhangjust a simple question00:21
jeffersounds like a loaded question00:21
jeffersounds like you want me to ask this question in an nvidia room00:22
bazhangis this somehow ubuntu related? there are hw overclock channels on freenode00:22
jefferalright take it easy00:22
jefferfaggot00:22
MarianoAlipilol00:24
MarianoAlipiI own a 2011 MacBook Pro. I have OS X and Windows 10 installed via Boot Camp. Can I add Ubuntu for a triple boot? If so, how can I do it?00:24
piremiHerdo: Thanks man ;)00:24
piremiMarianoAlipi: i don't think it is possible.00:25
bazhangMarianoAlipi, there are several guides, the most reliable not involving the use of bcamp00:27
MarianoAlipipiremi: dang :/ And what if I removed Windows?00:27
MarianoAlipibazhang: Oh, great! So would I need to reinstall Windows with a method different from Boot Camp?00:28
MarianoAlipiI don't mind if Ubuntu is not installed via Boot Camp, I'd just prefer to keep the three systems.00:28
bazhangMarianoAlipi, I aM looking at several guides, all from 2017, in the last 3-4 months, including a yt tutuorial00:30
bazhangtutorial00:30
bazhangMarianoAlipi, none of them inviolve bootcamp00:30
MarianoAlipibazhang: Great! I saw a forum post about it but it was from 2012 so I didn't want to follow that.00:30
piremiMarianoAlipi: is there any reason why you need it on boot? cuz i would recommend virtual machine like vb or parallels if you need it sometimes00:30
MarianoAlipibazhang: That's okay. I'd love to see them.00:31
MarianoAlipibazhang: Hmm, well, I think running it natively would be better because it's a somewhat old MacBook, and it struggles sometimes.00:31
bazhangMarianoAlipi, these are all unoffical and as such not supported guides; as seach term s I used your exact wording and the top out of eight were five from this year00:32
MarianoAlipibazhang: I mean, it runs Windows and OS X well but not really optimal. I've reformatted it a couple of times but it just isn't as fast anymore.00:32
MarianoAlipibazhang: Woah. I may seem lazy for not really looking at them, but I prefer to talk with a real person since I'm new to Linux and all of this. And I don't wanna screw up anything :(00:34
bazhangMarianoAlipi, perhaps as a starter you should consider using a vbox or the like, to better familiarize yourself witht he OS00:36
MarianoAlipibazhang: Well, I've booted Ubuntu from a USB stick several times. I've decided that I want to install it.00:38
MarianoAlipibazhang: And I'm not sure if running it in a vbox will have the same performance I could get running it natively.00:39
MarianoAlipiWhat do you think?00:39
GallomimiaMarianoAlipi: great. are you going to install it dedicated, or dual boot with your existing OS?00:39
bazhangMarianoAlipi, then repeat your issue every so often, I have no clear knowledge on using that with a mac00:39
bazhangGallomimia, trip boot00:39
Gallomimiasorry what install on a mac eh.00:39
bazhangtriple00:39
Gallomimiawhat type of mac? there's a few issues with some macs. you need to chainload a bootloader called rEFInd00:40
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MarianoAlipiGallomimia: I currently have my Mac with dual boot OS X and Win 10. I'd like to add Ubuntu, for triple boot.00:45
MarianoAlipiGallomimia: MacBook Pro Early 2011 13''00:45
Gallomimiacool. i had mine with win 7 and osx. now i have a triple boot set up with no windows installed yet. but ubuntu is there00:45
Gallomimiait had to get some kinda extra bootloader. every time i install an update to osx it disrupts it00:46
Gallomimiahaven't used it in a long while. not bothering for now00:46
MarianoAlipiGallomimia: Hmm, I see. That's what I want too.00:47
Gallomimiawell, it's possible. just do a little research on a perm install on the model you have00:48
Gallomimiaalso, prepartition.00:48
Gallomimiathat ain't easy.00:48
hackedheadI'm looking for information about installing ubuntu onto an existing machine alongside another distro and windows: https://gist.github.com/hackedhead/ad787217e274751ed31c5034d5f69eda00:48
Gallomimialike... you have to make plans and stuff. shuffle around existing installs.00:48
MarianoAlipiOr what do you think about virtual boxes? Win 10 runs fairly okay, but sometimes it does get slow. Would running a vbox be affected by that?00:49
MarianoAlipidang00:49
Gallomimiadepends why you want to run the ubuntu then don't it?00:49
Gallomimiaif you put it in a vbox, its just that. virtual. is that okay with you?00:50
Gallomimiai don't think the performance will suffer much at all, unless you start running some kind of gpu heavy stuff00:50
MarianoAlipiGallomimia: Right. What I want is an OS that feels fast and light, even with this sluggish computer. I use this laptop for web browsing, Office and programming. That's why I think Linux could work for me.00:51
Gallomimiaprobably would. but there's some hardware issues with broadcomm devices and drivers. they're very OSS averse00:52
MarianoAlipiGallomimia: Isn't a vbox somewhat demanding for the computer? I mean, running alongside whatever is open.00:52
Gallomimiafor example, in my laptop, i have a wifi/bluetooth dual card that only works with a proprietary driver blob, non open source, and it doesn't do bluetooth. wifi only00:52
Gallomimiawell... it'll be like running two operating systems00:53
Gallomimiai hear overhead for virtualising is pretty low these days. never done it long term myself00:53
Gallomimiabut do you want to run a window to do all your work inside? i think not00:53
MarianoAlipiHmmm00:53
Gallomimiaanyway. drivers. they're a problem.00:53
Gallomimiamy laptop is a macbook pro late 2010 13 inch fyi00:54
Gallomimiaprobably more sluggish than yours. i get by00:54
MarianoAlipigee00:54
MarianoAlipiI think I could just remove Windows for ease of installing it if Linux works well.00:55
MarianoAlipiBut what can guarantee me that it will? :(00:56
MarianoAlipiInstalling Windows is kind of a long process.00:56
Gallomimiayeah. don't remove it00:56
Gallomimiaor.... backup the image00:56
MarianoAlipiThe Windows installation image?00:57
MarianoAlipiOr what do you mean?00:57
Gallomimiaanyway. i made 4 partitions. 1 is osx boot. one is for windows, one is for ubuntu. i can't read the ubuntu image while booted to the others, so, the 4th is for data. it's in fat32 so all three OS flavors can read it. not the best, but it works00:57
Gallomimiai mean... your windows installation. back it up if you plan to delete it00:58
Gallomimiakeep it somewhere00:58
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Gallomimiayou might as well back up the mac one too before you try something as bigwhild crazy as this.00:58
Gallomimiaseriously. big install. big op. chance of data loss high.00:58
MarianoAlipiwhoa00:59
MarianoAlipithis is making me very nervous hahah00:59
MarianoAlipiI don't really have anything to lose. They're both "fresh" installations with a few programs installed. All of my important stuff is on MEGA.01:00
Gallomimiaokay 0o01:00
Gallomimiawell the saying goes, and i heard it in here. if it wasn't backed up, it wasn't that important to you01:00
Gallomimiaif you have nothing to lose on your drive then why are you nervous? get started01:01
Gallomimiauh. how many computers do you have?01:01
MarianoAlipiIt's just that messing with the OSs isn't easy01:01
Gallomimiano. its not.01:01
MarianoAlipicause I don't want to have to spend a whole day resetting my computer if something goes wrong :( haha01:02
Gallomimianow, here's the rub. while your laptop is in boot mode, or possibly messed up, what are you going to use to look up a way to fix it, or possibly come in here to ask someone what to do next. (like not me)01:02
Gallomimiahah.01:02
MarianoAlipiFor me it is, I'm not familiar to pretty much any of that.01:02
MarianoAlipiI have custom desktop PC which I use for pretty much everything, and a laptop which I take to school.01:02
Gallomimiathis one time... i decided to take my laptop apart and look at what was wrong with the keyboard. i'd spilled something on it01:02
Gallomimiait took 3 days, and i had to use a family's imac to look up how01:02
Gallomimiaalright good. as long as you have a spare01:03
Gallomimiabut yeah. that's the reality. you might have it down all weekend. so, either get it fixed and ready for tuesday or01:03
Gallomimialeave it until..... thanksgiving?01:03
MarianoAlipihaha, true01:03
MarianoAlipiwell01:04
MarianoAlipiI guess I have a few things to think about.01:04
MarianoAlipiAnd some courage to find. But I'll do it eventually. I can feel the pain the Mac feels while running Windows.01:04
MarianoAlipiI'll possibly start in a few hours, once I've thought it through.01:05
GlamdeskI find myself needing to run something in 256 colors. To that end, I wish to run another X server. Would somebody please tell me what's the best way to do that presently? I'm not seeing much about comparisons between Xnest and Xephyr, for example.01:28
daddesioGlamdesk: using wine?01:31
Glamdeskdaddesio: Yes, but its own internal 256 color mode doesn't do the trick. Tried it, even making its own desktop environment. Something about Missionforce: Cyberstorm just doesn't cope.01:34
bazhangGlamdesk, check the appdb01:34
bazhangGlamdesk, then #winehq01:35
Glamdeskbazhang, Did, they get the same results I do; did, they directed me to this contingency indirectly.01:35
GlamdeskSo I'm at the point of saying screw it time to run another X server.01:35
GlamdeskSuffice to say, it's an unusual problem, even in context.01:35
Glamdeskbazhang, daddesio, I take it neither of you are overly familiar with running an additional X server and the tools thereof?01:40
darthanubisI hard shutdown my PC, and now, gnome login loops, and evolution loops for gmail authorization for my mail accounts. Should I clean out my temp or something? Is there a way to make things right? It seems something is amiss after the dirty shutdown.01:46
Bashing-omdarthanubis: A dirty shutdown == a file system check/repair .01:48
darthanubisIs there a way to make things right?01:48
debkadof corse01:49
hellpi have a notebook. In this notebook I had xubuntu installed. I made a backup of it and tried to install a new OS in the notebook. I reverted and installed xubuntu again. I dont have access to the backup copy. Can I , with a live cd of any kind, look for the remaining files of the previous installation in the notebook?01:50
darthanubisI'm asking for help here guys. Can someone link me to the resource if no cmd wants to be dropped here?01:50
debkaddarthanubis: alt+ctrl+F1 can do the job01:51
darthanubisI've got the system running, but I have to tty to kill systemd/user01:51
darthanubisdebkad, that doesn't fix anything01:51
debkadthat just the hint to start01:51
Bashing-omdarthanubis: ^^ What release are you running ? ^^ 1st is to do a file system check ( fsck ) .01:51
darthanubis4.10.0-33-generic #37-Ubuntu 17.0401:52
darthanubisBashing-om, The fsck run upon reboot and nothing/errors were found01:53
darthanubisit just seems my gnome user state is stale or not clean01:53
darthanubiseven after reboot i have to kill systemd/user to login01:54
daddesioGlamdesk: sadly no, I am not. I ended up hacking my game to bypass the 256-color check (still seemed to work with some minor graphical bugs).01:54
debkaddarthanubis: another hint check the /var/log/syslog for any errors during loggin01:54
darthanubisdebkad, i've done that as well01:54
darthanubisdidn't see anything related to login01:55
Glamdeskdaddesio: I take it that's non-trivial. It wouldn't happen to have been Missionforce: Cyberstorm, would it?01:55
darthanubisI check xresources file01:55
daddesiono, The Sims Online. :)01:55
GlamdeskWas the error "unable to create a surface"?01:55
Bashing-omdarthanubis: Lost authorization to the desltop ? What shows ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' for the owner and group ?01:55
daddesioSomething like that! Your game uses DirectDraw?01:56
darthanubisI've never had this type of issue in quite some time01:56
GlamdeskYes! I think. Definitely used DirectX 2.01:56
darthanubisBashing-om, my user name and group. I checked that as well01:56
Bashing-omdarthanubis: Then next thought is a broke graphic's driver . ' sudo lshw -C display .01:57
darthanubisBashing-om, what are we looking for in this readout? Is just showing my display driver resources as normal01:59
darthanubisI have accelerated AMD driver, OSS running01:59
Bashing-omdarthanubis: In the configuration line. what driver is listed ?02:00
Glamdeskdaddesio: I had problems with Fallout in this regard, but it was a different error, and oddly easy to fix with instructions.02:00
darthanubisconfiguration: driver=radeon latency=002:00
debkadMy guess is about a permission files ( in some hidens folders like .gnome , .gnome2 ... ) or a dm ( gdm, lightdm ... )02:00
darthanubisdebkad, that's what i'm thinking02:00
darthanubisthat's why gdm login and evolution are borked. Chromium was as well02:01
daddesioGlamdesk: It's been a while but IIRC I believe Wine's IDirectDraw and IDirect3D interfaces support 256-color rendering targets regardless of your actual display mode, but it does require hacking your game to fix crashes (which requires knowledge of OllyDbg or x64dbg). setting up another xorg is probably the simpler method.02:01
darthanubisanything to do with my user state was toast since that bad shutdown02:01
daddesiowhich I don't know how to do.02:01
Bashing-omdarthanubis: If you can boot a guest session to the desktop, then that points to an issue within "your" user space configs .02:01
Glamdeskdaddesio: I've had other (rare) occasions when it seemed the most reasonable response to the (non-Wine) situation too, so it'd be a good thing to know how to do regardless.02:02
darthanubisBashing-om, how can I reset/clean/refresh, my gnome user state/settings please?02:02
debkaddarthanubis: try to rename one of those hidden folders until the problem gone ( don't forget to copy it back when finish )02:02
w9qbjTrying to setup ACPUPSD, how do I send a message to all desktops warning of the shutdown event. 'wall' messages do not seem to work on Ubuntu 16.0402:03
w9qbjactually all events that apcupsd triggers on - like battery time, low voltage, etc02:03
Bashing-omdarthanubis: I can not advise about gnome . I do not use that DE and have no experience to say .02:03
hellpim going to try to get some files from a notebook using a live usb. To be sure and to have a backup computer ill be doing this form college. Will somebody who offers help be in 14 hours here?02:03
darthanubisok02:03
darthanubisbrb02:04
debkad/quit02:09
theSanDiegoKidhow can I move a folder from my Documents folder into usr/local02:15
Ben64theSanDiegoKid: why would you want to do that02:16
theSanDiegoKidBen64: I am trying to install Android Studio and it is telling me to move the unpacked folder there.02:17
Ben64theSanDiegoKid: that's not correct02:17
theSanDiegoKidBen64: oh okay. Any suggestions on where I just move it to?02:17
theSanDiegoKidBen64: Also, if you don't mind me asking. Why not? Sorry pretty new to Ubuntu.02:17
Ben64shouldn't mess with system directories02:18
theSanDiegoKidokay.02:18
Ben64what are you following to install android studio02:18
theSanDiegoKidthe user guide from android (https://developer.android.com/studio/install.html)02:18
Ben64put it in /opt/android-studio/ then02:20
theSanDiegoKidokay thank you. I will do that.02:20
theSanDiegoKidBen64: Which opt folder? I am seeing one in my etc directory and one in the var directory.02:24
mindofmateoI walked away from my desktop while doing some work, only for a few minutes, but the screens turn black and it's unresponsive.  I don't see it active on the network, tapping the power button does nothing, un/plugging peripherals does nothing, putting in a CDROM, nothing happens. One, what caused this, and two, is everything I was working on f***ed?02:24
Ben64theSanDiegoKid: just /opt02:24
mindofmateo16.04 LTS02:24
theSanDiegoKidthank you/02:24
Bashing-ommindofmateo: System froze up ?? Do have another system on the LAN and try and ping the froze box ?02:26
mindofmateoI only had web browsers open and probably one terminal emulator. I was gone only long enough to get a drink and put something in the fridge. Now it's unresponsive.02:26
mindofmateoBashing-om: I tried to ssh, no go, on the router it says inactive. :/  it's still "on" though, the lights are on, fans spinning...02:27
mindofmateoIt just looks like it's suspended or locked, but the keyboard/mouse/whatever does nothing. Caps/num lock LED won't even toggle.02:28
Bashing-om!SysRq | mindofmateo Sounds like a hard freeze, but try :02:29
ubottumindofmateo Sounds like a hard freeze, but try :: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key02:29
mindofmateoI searched the web but I get a lot of results talking about laptops and closing the top/clamshell02:29
Ben64reisub doesn't work by default02:30
mindofmateoMaybe kernel panic? IDK what happened02:31
mindofmateoI cam back and thought nothing of it, as in, oh I'll have to log in again02:32
Bashing-ommindofmateo: Well, If you can not ssh in, no keyboard, no monitor . not much choice but to do the dirty and hope for the best and then clean up any mess afterward .02:35
theSanDiegoKidI am trying to move my folder from /Documents/android to /opt but I keep getting the following error "cp: cannot stat '/Documents/android': No such file or directory" I am using the following command: "sudo cp /Documents/android /opt" any suggestions as to what is happening?02:41
mindofmateoBashing-om is there any kind of log I could look at that would some me something if I restarted it?02:41
on3pkI have a really freaking dumb question.  How do I create a symlink?02:42
mindofmateoThesandiegokid you're missing the last /02:42
on3pklike I'm trying to get /var/www/html/index.php to link to ~/html/index.php02:42
mindofmateoEr, I mean you need ~/Documents02:42
mindofmateoOtherwise it's looking for the documents folder in  root02:43
Bashing-ommindofmateo: only if you have previously enabled persistent logging for the journal .02:43
mindofmateoDang.02:44
on3pkdo both files need to exist before a simlink can be created?02:44
Bashing-ommindofmateo: Also, bear in mind that if this is a system freeze, then logging is frozen . Will have nothing to see in that event ( that has been my esperience with this sytem intermittently freezing up - resolved  )02:46
mindofmateoRrrrrrrr I won't even know what happened...02:47
Bashing-omon3pk: NO . If the symlink file already exist, then the tool will not function to make/change the link .02:48
mindofmateoThis happened once before, but SOME things still worked02:48
Bashing-ommindofmateo: All USB  peripherals ? ( can not hot plug PS2 devices ) . Might try again and see if the system awakes when re-plugging USB devices .02:51
on3pkOh ok.  I'm just dumb.  I was typing ls instead of ln02:52
on3pkI was kinda losing my mind there for a minute02:52
foul_owlHow do I edit the metadata of an mp4? Thanks!02:52
Bashing-omon3pk: Happens to the best of us .. one large cup of coffee is subscribed :)02:53
on3pkIndeed.02:53
on3pkMaybe 8 hours of sleep at this point :)02:53
on3pkOh, this is a question I definitely don't know.  What user does a cron job use?  Is it it's own user?02:59
Ben64on3pk: depends where the job came from03:00
on3pkWhat do you mean?03:00
Ben64uh. where it came from. is it your user's crontab? then it'd run as you03:01
on3pkOh, I was setting up a crontab, so it would run as me03:02
on3pkthanks03:02
leftyfbon3pk: unless you used sudo crontab, then it would run a root03:02
on3pkRight03:02
stranglerfishhey, i just completely wiped my 16.04.2 drive and installed 16.04.3 over it and i'm having some issues03:52
stranglerfishmainly that my software center doesn't want to install stuff. any package i've tried so far, i click install, it shows that it's starting then stops immediately03:52
zelozeloshave you updated?03:53
stranglerfishi did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt install03:53
stranglerfishand i ran the software updater03:53
stranglerfishis that right?03:53
zelozelosupdate manager says you are up to date?03:54
zelozelos<i ask because there have been ppa changes03:54
stranglerfishyeah, software updater says up to date03:54
Ben64stranglerfish: why would you wipe and install to go up a point version03:55
stranglerfishthat wasn't the reason03:55
Ben64cool03:55
stranglerfishi get a bit OCD sometimes. i was having anxiety, imposter syndrome kinda stuff and i didn't know what i should do. i've been slacking on programming and couldn't think of a project or thing to learn so i figured i'd do a fresh slate on my laptop03:56
stranglerfishcause that sometimes gives me a bit of a motivation boost03:56
on3pkOne thing I'm sort of curious about.  How does Ubuntu get my timezone from SSH?03:56
Ben64on3pk: explain03:56
daddesiostranglerfish: sounds like something I should try then, haha03:56
on3pkBen64: Well, I have a VPS in London.  when I use the date command, it is using my local timezone, not BST03:57
stranglerfishi wouldn't recommend, it's a result of not knowing how to deal with anxiety03:57
stranglerfishanywho, thoughts on how to fix?03:57
Ben64on3pk: then it's just on your time zone03:58
daddesioi've haven't used the GUI package manager since around 2013 so I can't really say03:58
stranglerfishone sec i'm trying it out since the software update restart03:58
stranglerfishyeah it's not working for .deb packages that i've downloaded03:59
on3pkBen64: I guess I never set it.  Could it have gotten that information from my host's vps control software?03:59
stranglerfishand if i try a second time i get a ? icon in my launcher with a progress bar that doesn't move03:59
Ben64on3pk: possibly03:59
Ben64stranglerfish: try dpkg -i blah.deb03:59
on3pkOk, so it is possible that it could have?  I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.  I just was a little curious...04:00
Ben64on3pk: sure, when they're setting up the vm they could do whatever04:00
stranglerfisherrors were encountered while processing, though i dunno if that's just cause it's already attempting to be installed elsewhere?04:00
stranglerfishone sec brb, logging off and on04:00
on3pkWell that's neat04:00
stranglerfishback04:01
zelozelosyou shoulda just restarted04:01
zelozelosbut did it fix it?04:01
Ben64stranglerfish: put full command and errors on paste.ubuntu.com04:01
stranglerfishhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25455652/04:02
stranglerfishjust seems weird to me that i would have to install a .deb from terminal, shouldn't it work in software center when i double click?04:03
Ben64i don't use gui stuff04:03
stranglerfisheven google chrome package was doing the same issue04:03
Ben64well theres your problem, you need app indicator04:03
stranglerfishis there a way to run it so it asks me to install dependencies?04:04
Ben64idk, but you could just install them04:04
stranglerfishfound an answer04:06
stranglerfishsudo apt-get -f install04:06
stranglerfishit installed the complained about dependencies and the package, after i attempted with dpkg04:06
stranglerfishit's annoying that a fresh install is already giving me an issue like this but, whatever. i'm okay with ditching gui04:07
stranglerfishok, now to deal with the whole reason i did this reinstall. anyone got advice on dealing with imposter syndrome? i finished college 1 year ago, am currently on welfare and haven't practiced programming in a while04:09
stranglerfishi need projects to help build confidence but i'm getting myself worked up trying to decide what language, what kinda project, etc04:10
stranglerfishanxiety is making it hard to think straight, anyone else go through this kinda stuff / have advice?04:10
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stranglerfishysorry got logged out04:18
netituxHi04:46
ALTF5Hello, anybody can help with a problem of mouse freeze when trying ubuntu 16.04 from live cd or when I install it and possibly why i cannot boot to my windows7 after both fresh install. I am using a PC desktop with a bios having uefi05:17
ALTF5I have looked up youtube for videos about those problems but could not find solution that fix the random freezes or my windows boot always going back to grub05:20
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Loshkistranglerfish: anxiolytics (drugs) to help with the anxiety, talk therapy to help with the impostor syndrome.06:05
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stranglerfishLoshki: anxiolytics are bad news for me06:47
stranglerfishi am going to a therapist currently but so far it hasn't helped :s06:48
creatIn Ubuntu, when connecting a USB-powered HDD (WD My Passport) or a flash key through a USB3 hub (AmazonBasics 4-port), the HDD/key isn't detected automatically. And they get detected only after doing "sudo lsusb -v" Connecting them directly to system works though.07:06
vadiMy Ubuntu 17.04 is not detecting my Android phone at all when I plug it in - nothing new shows up on dmesg and it's not on lsusb. The phone however blips and starts charging fine when I plug it in. How can I fix this?07:06
ducassevadi: check that you're using a data cable, not just a charging cable07:07
creatThe issue is present in last two LTS releases.07:08
creatHave not checked on other versions07:08
vadiducasse: how do I check that?07:08
vadiAh yep, a different cable worked. Thanks07:10
ducassecreat: i'd suspect that's a problem with the hub, not ubuntu07:11
creatNo driver problems or anything like that?07:12
ducassei doubt it07:12
creatI see07:13
chakliHello guys, I was trying to install ubuntu, i have tried 17.04 gnome and 17.10 ubuntu. and in both i get an error. grub-efi-amd64-signed package failed to install in /target/ . Is there any way to solve this07:14
hypermistcan someone help me with the error /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3: No such file or directory07:24
hypermisttrying to cross compile07:24
ducassehypermist: try #ubuntu-arm07:25
hypermistyu07:25
hypermistty *07:25
theSanDiegoKidHow can I edit a text file that requires root access?07:41
ducassetheSanDiegoKid: gui or terminal?07:42
theSanDiegoKidducasse, gui but I think I just figured it out in terminalby using nano.07:43
ducassetheSanDiegoKid: if you want to use a gui editor, don't start it with sudo - use gksudo07:47
theSanDiegoKidducasse: oh okay.. thanks!07:48
theSanDiegoKidHas anyone used android studio on ubuntu? For some reason my device is not showing up as a run environment.07:49
theSanDiegoKidIgnore that, figured it out.07:53
koomenHi there. I use ubuntu with i3 and I have some problems with my brightness. When I use the brightness-controller and I adjust the screen brightness, it instantly changes back to my current state (something keeps overwriting it I think) and with xbacklight I get the message: "No outputs have backlight property" ... even though I have some settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to define my card and backlight property,07:54
koomenit nothing works... anyone knows this problem or can help me debug? I tried sooo many things already...07:54
HexalHi, I'm using dual OS Ubuntu 16.4 and Windows 10, I would like to installing Ubuntu 17 which is I already downloaded and burn in USB Live07:56
ducassekoomen: please don't crosspost07:56
koomenducasse: np07:56
ntinoskoomen: what `ls  /sys/class/backlight` gives you?07:58
koomenntinos: intel_backlight -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/card0-eDP-1/intel_backlight07:58
HexalMay I ask you someone help me about this without loosing my data on windows and grub working again07:59
ntinoskoomen: do `cat brightness` and then `echo number | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness`08:00
koomenntinos: yeah that does work already.08:00
ntinosso the problem is using your fn keys and xbacklight?08:01
koomenntinos: well the keys are set properly, but xbacklight needs an output or so which it doesn't have... can't find my screen I think since it says: "No outputs have backlight property"08:01
ntinosyes, xbacklight has issues with Intel08:06
ntinosmind posting /etc/X11/xorg.conf?08:06
koomenntinos: well it worked before ...08:06
koomenntinos: sure, sec08:06
ntinoskoomen: did update anything? kernel, xorg, driver?08:07
koomenntinos: well I did install a lot of system stuff on my previous install of ubuntu ... I did a re-install because I accidently upgraded, instead of updated08:07
koomenso I did a reinstall and now it doesn't work and I can't find out what I need to get it fixed08:08
koomenntinos: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/backlight#xbacklight this is what I used08:09
koomenthe section about: put this in your "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"08:09
ntinosmaybe you can put your busid as well; what `lspci -k | grep VGA` gives you?08:12
koomenntinos: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 09)08:13
ntinosHexal: start the installation, format ONLY the ubuntu partition and reinstall it on it08:13
Hexalntinos, I'll starting now08:13
ntinoskoomen: put: BusID    "PCI:0:2:0"08:14
ntinosbelow Option on your xorg.conf08:14
koomenntinos: did that already, didn't work either08:14
ntinosmaybe rm intel_backlight symlink, rm backlight dir, and do ln -s ../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/card0-eDP-1/intel_backlight backlight08:17
spexiHi! I just installed Ubuntu server 16.04.3 LTS and I can't get wired or wireless connection working. Devices are Realtek RTL8111/8168 and Qualcomm Atheros AR9287.08:18
spexiI have tried different configurations to /etc/network/interfaces. Setting iface enp3s0 inet dhcp takes forever to run, over 5min on boot. With static it won't work either. What was weird, was that with both wired and wireless I could ping the very first time, and every other ping attempt after that was packet loss. What should I try?08:18
koomenntinos: how can I remove it ? it says: Operation nothing permitted when I am in "sudo -i"08:19
koomenoperation not permitted **08:19
ntinoswell, crap; do you really need xbacklight tho? you can use a script to wrap cat/echo on /sys/.../brightness08:21
koomenntinos: I don't mind ... I just want somthing that can help me adjust my brightness, but without having it to run with sudo08:22
koomenntinos: I just want something that adds +2% or so to the brightness when I press my keyboard key...08:23
ntinoshttps://ptpb.pw/67pn08:23
ntinosI'm using this08:23
ntinoson STEP change 20 to 50 if you want 2% steps08:23
ntinosthe just call it as /path/to/script.sh up and /path/to/script.sh down08:24
koomenntinos: yeah but .. I still have to run that as sudo ...08:24
koomenntinos: ain't gonna work right when I bind it in i3 to my keyboard key?08:24
EriC^^koomen: try xbacklight08:25
koomenEriC^^: I have a problem with that ... that's  the point of not using it08:25
EriC^^what's the problem?08:25
koomenEriC^^: it says: "no outputs have backlight property"08:25
Hexalntinos, I'm in "Installation type"but none of the options on this page is not active08:25
EriC^^oh, write a script that adds or removes08:25
HexalHi EriC^^08:26
EriC^^hi Hexal08:26
koomenEriC^^: yeah but I have to run that script as sudo08:26
HexalI'm started installing :D08:26
koomenEriC^^: and then I can't bind it to my keyboard keys ...08:26
EriC^^koomen: yeah, add it to /etc/sudoers with NOPASSWD08:26
koomenEriC^^: oh, haven't thought about that ..08:26
koomenmhmh, let me try!08:26
ntinosas alternative and if you're running acpid, add it to your actions/events08:28
Hexalntinos, Please check this link https://i.imgur.com/tPpGkLM.jpg08:31
ntinosHexal: something else and new pic08:32
Hexalntinos, yes :))08:32
Hexalntinos, but not working on something else too08:33
Hexalntinos,  "continue" is detractive08:33
Hexaldetective*08:34
Hexalsorry for typo08:34
Hexaldeactivate*08:34
ntinosyou mean the option to continue is disabled? cannot really help with that08:34
Hexalntinos, yes exactly08:35
Hexalntinos, I'll start installation from beginning08:35
Hexalntinos, "Primary" or "Logical"?08:40
ntinoswhat you had already; don't delete anything; just format current ubuntu partition08:41
ntinossupposing you have no files needed08:41
Hexalntinos, I did that and now I'm choosing my country08:43
Hexalntinos, already done thank you08:55
Hexalntinos, I start updating and showing me this message "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)08:58
ntinosHexal: sudo apt update?09:00
Hexalyes09:00
Hexalit's works now ntinos09:00
Hexalntinos, Thank you so much for your time09:01
HexalWhy after all years this brightness problem didn't solved on Ubuntu :(09:11
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vltHexal: Which brightness problem?09:51
Hexalvlt brightness key problem on laptop10:07
Hexalbut I already fixed it from grab10:08
HexalActually my current issue is I can't save any files in other drives "ntfs"10:08
Hexalvlt can you help me about this please?10:09
vltHexal: Is there a bug report for your brightness problem?10:10
Hexalvlt actually I have this problem from long time, I have lenovo and every time I installing fresh Ubuntu I have to go on "/etc/default/grub" and changing GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"10:14
Hexaland then update-grub and restart every time I should do that to fixing my brightness key issue10:14
pumpkinzI can't seem to set a resolution with 240hz with xrandr is there any way to do this?10:15
pumpkinzor register add a resolution I should say.10:16
vltHexal: How would it look like when you considered this problem “solved”?10:16
Hexalvlt let me explain this: without changing this line, if I pressing on brightness key for high or low, getting so dark until I have to restart ubuntu and then before booting I should fix brightness, but when I editing this line and adding "acpi_backlight=vendor" after quiet splash, I'll able to using brightness key normally10:20
Hexalvlt I had this problem on Ubuntu 14-15-16 and now still exist on 1710:22
vltHexal: Where is the bug report for this problem?10:29
Hexalvlt I didn't sent any bug report actually10:30
vltHexal: Well ...10:32
cfhowlettthat happened10:33
histo:)10:33
akikHexal: are you saying that the acpi_backlight parameter doesn't fix it?10:34
akikHexal: you can also set it in xorg config snippet Option         "Backlight" "intel_backlight"10:35
akikif using intel graphics, that is10:35
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akikhttps://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alaunchpad.net+acpi_backlight%3Dvendor10:40
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DbuggerHello everyone10:51
DbuggerHow do you guys do it to manage different SSH connections? I have quite a few servers to manage, all of them with different password and users. Is there a effective way you guys and girls use manage connections?11:00
vltDbugger: The most important file for me is ~/.ssh/config11:05
ddellavDbugger yes, ssh keys. You can use the same one for all servers or use different keys per server and set them up to be used in your ssh config file11:05
vltDbugger: And logins with key instead of passwords, of course.11:05
renatonetohi, I'm having some trouble shutting down my ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS11:06
renatonetoit hangs on "Stopping Raise network interfaces"11:07
renatonetotricky part is maybe that i've booted it from an iSCSI target using iPXE and iBFT11:08
renatonetoi don't see anything useful in syslog, could anyone assist me where to look?11:09
Dbuggerwell, i was using ssh keys. But the other day my Ubuntu system exploded, and I had to install a new system11:09
onlaI need to make sure glib-devel and gtk-devel packages or similar are installed. What are they called in ubuntu 14.04?11:09
Dbuggermeaning I lost all connections11:09
vltDbugger: Lost? What happened to your backup?11:11
Dbuggervlt, you mean I should I should bring the private and public key to my new system=11:11
Dbugger?11:11
ddellavyou should always keep a backup of your keys somewhere, yes11:12
ddellavjust make sure they are secure11:12
Dbuggerwell, I never really thought about that..11:12
vltDbugger: Yes. The key is usually stored in ~/.ssh/id_rsa and ...id_rsa.pub11:12
DbuggerCan keys be simply copied into a different system?11:12
ddellavof course11:13
vltDbugger: If you restore these files into your home you should be able to access the servers.11:13
ddellavthey are just text files11:13
Dbuggeroh well... I gotta admit the idea never crossed my mind...11:13
DbuggerI am gonna see if there is any possible way for me to recover them...11:13
vltDbugger: Mind that ssh client refuses to use a key that is readable for too many users ;-)11:13
ddellavyea, they usually need to be 60011:14
Dbuggeroh really?11:15
Dbuggergood to know11:15
Dbuggershould I just copy both keys?11:15
DbuggerOr should I copy the whole .ssh folder11:15
Dbugger?11:15
vltDbugger: Try the whole folder.11:16
Dbuggermeaning "known_hosts", "config", and so on11:16
DbuggerCool. Ill give it a god11:16
DbuggerGO11:16
DbuggerI got this: "sign_and_send_pubkey: signing failed: agent refused operation"11:19
linociscohi all,11:21
linociscothis guide (http://naingyeminn.com/posts/burmese-keyboard-for-ubuntu-1404/) still valid?11:21
akiklinocisco: you should use english language11:23
linociscoakik, i m asking for local folks here if someone is online11:23
vltDbugger: vlt said something about “refuse” before. Your error message also contains “refused” ;-)11:34
DbuggerOh, you mean that is not restricted enough...11:37
DbuggerI was using the default permissions. What are the right ones?11:37
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blzHello, I'm getting a permission denied error when attempting a connection to an NFS server on ubuntu 17.04.  Could someone please have a look at my configuration and see if I've missed anything obvious?  https://askubuntu.com/q/952374/6295811:40
Dbuggermy public key is rw-r--r-- and my private key is rw-------11:40
Dbuggeraaah! I found it! I had to run "ssh-add" after changing the keys :P11:41
DbuggerI thought that just moving text files was way too easy.. :P11:41
akikblz: did you run "sudo exportfs -a" after configuring it?11:46
renatonetofor those who are interested, this is the only error message i'm seeing11:50
renatonetohttps://imgur.com/MXWxbp911:50
BluesKajHi folks11:51
fdahis there a way to find who sshed to our machine?11:58
EriC^^fdah: see /var/log/auth.log12:02
renatonetoso I narrowed my problem down to this, when I remove "net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 ubuntu" from mij grub.conf everything works fine again12:11
renatonetoi got the idea from this askubuntu question https://askubuntu.com/questions/767786/changing-network-interfaces-name-ubuntu-16-0412:12
renatonetodoes some1 know why my shutdown hangs when I try to set my network interfaces name to "eth0" instead of "enp6s0"?12:15
akikrenatoneto: why did you have "ubuntu" as a kernel parameter? net.ifnames=0 works for me12:19
BluesKajeth0 isn't recognized in systemd, it's now known as enp-something12:19
BluesKajrenatoneto,^12:20
renatonetoakik: sorry, wrong copy/paste, i meant "net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" as stated by the askubuntu question12:21
Hexalvlt I never bug reported before12:22
akikrenatoneto: you can read the systemd logs with "journalctl -xe" and also read the logs of previous boots12:22
Hexalakik actually my laptop is Lenovo Z500 and dual GPU intel and nvidia12:23
akikrenatoneto: the "-b" option12:23
Hexalakik, btw, how can I get permission for save files on other partions ntfs?12:24
akikHexal: there are mount options that handle that for your current user. doesn't your file manager allow it?12:24
HexalAt moment I'm not able for save even text file to another drives12:24
akikHexal: did you change that fast start-up option in windows?12:25
Hexalakik, no let me first do that you said fast boot isn't it right?12:26
akikHexal: it's explained here https://www.howtogeek.com/236807/how-to-mount-your-windows-10-or-8-system-drive-on-linux/12:26
HexalOk. I'm booting windows now12:27
renatonetoBluesKaj is there some way I could make systemd "eth0"-aware?12:28
BluesKajrenatoneto, not sure, I haven't bothered since it's systemd naming convention at work here and to me it;s just something new being a home user.12:31
renatonetoBluesKaj i need it because otherwise my servers are not accepting to get their hostname from our dhcp server12:33
renatonetoBluesKaj also some other scripts and feature are depending on the "eth0" naming convention of the earlier days12:35
BluesKajrenatoneto, http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/mini-howtos/change-default-network-name-ens33-to-old-eth0-on-ubuntu-16-04.html12:36
renatonetoBluesKaj, that's exactly what i did :)12:39
akikrenatoneto: try without the biosdevname=0. you don't need it on 16.0412:40
renatonetoakik: already did, same problem. I also tried it with and without /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules being manually created12:42
akikrenatoneto: this is not related to your problem but if i had a cifs mount in /etc/fstab, ubuntu would shutdown the interface before unmounting the share12:43
renatonetoakik: i'm using my ubuntu diskless, booted from an iSCSI LUN using iBFT & iPXE12:45
akikrenatoneto: did you read the journalctl logs after this problem=12:46
renatonetoakik: i did, but it's not logging any errors from my last shutdown. I think because iSCSI is already stopped after networking is trying to stop so it has no place on disk to log to12:48
renatonetoakik: just for the record, when i remove the "net.ifnames=0 (biosdevname=0)" from grub.conf, everything works fine12:49
akikrenatoneto: this is a long shot but maybe compare the logs when using net.ifnames=0 and when not12:54
akikrenatoneto: maybe the interface name is stuck in some of your iscsi config12:55
renatonetoakik: i never see the shutdown events in journalctl13:17
renatonetoakik: any idea what i'm doing wrong? I'm using it with -xe and -b13:17
akikrenatoneto: try maybe without the -xe13:20
akik-xe goes to the end of the log13:21
renatonetoakik: same thing13:21
MonkeyDustrenatoneto  i guess it's easier and faster to get used to the new names13:21
renatonetoMonkeyDust: problem is my hostname aren't set using dhcp when use the new interface names13:29
blzakik, yes I did.13:36
blzakik, (re: NFS problem)13:37
akikblz: does your server see the client ip as you expect?13:38
blzakik, yes:  10.3.0.102, as expected.13:39
blzakik, as reported by `ping`.  That is, pinging the hostname returns the IP I expect.13:39
akikblz: have you tried mounting the nfs share on the command line?13:40
blzakik, I have not.  The client is OSX, but I suppose it must be possible there too13:41
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blzakik:  https://hastebin.com/amovesaqiz.txt13:43
blzakik: the error messages are completely useless :C13:44
akikblz: that's a new error message. maybe search for that13:44
akikblz: to me that looks like a client machine error13:44
blzakik: hmm, that's encouraging as I don't really intend to mount the nfs share to osx13:45
akikhttps://thornelabs.net/2013/10/15/operation-not-permitted-mounting-nfs-share-on-os-x-mountain-lion.html13:45
blzakik: i'll try from another linux machine if googling doesn't help13:45
blzakik: yep, found the same link :)13:46
akikblz: does it work? :)13:46
blzakik: reading as we speak :)13:46
blzakik: well I'll be damned... It works13:48
blzakik: typical.  I saw saw the `insecure` option in a tutorial, looked it up on the manpage, decided I didn't need it ...13:48
blzakik: thanks for the help, in any case :)13:49
renatonetoCould you think with me on this one? When i remove the ""net.ifnames=0" from grub.conf i need to edit my /etc/network/interfaces so it uses the new name for the interface13:57
renatonetobut the problem is that this ubuntu image will server as an "golden image" i will duplicate it using CoW on top of this13:58
renatonetoso the interface names will different, depending on which hardware i will be deploying13:58
vfwI guess we have to be registered to get into #ubuntu now.  Right?14:04
vfwWhen did that change?14:04
Hexalakik, I did that and works so great thanks14:10
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ReventlovtHi15:31
Reventlovthe 17.04 boot of my ubuntu is really slow15:31
ReventlovHere is the  systemd-analyze critical-chain: https://ptpb.pw/URHh15:32
brainwashReventlov: I would check the journal15:36
zack263Question:  I have firefox developer edition installed from a .deb in the download folder; but if I type firefox from terminal it says firefox not installed15:37
zack263so my question is how to i run the firefox developer edition from the terminal?15:38
zack263i see what happen15:39
brainwashzack263: is that an official deb?15:39
oerhekszack263, install that .deb, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package15:39
zack263i didnt install it properply manually15:39
oerheksbut if you don't even know how to install, why the development version?15:40
zack263i didnt install in /opt or /usr/local15:40
zack263developer version is cause I like that verison, LOL15:40
zack263i would assume it's official.. i got it from mozzila website? not sure what u mean by official15:41
zack263well.. normally i install a .deb by just double clicking it15:41
zack263but the directions i just ran into.. i see i did it wrong15:41
oerheksdevelopment versions are never official, it is a beta15:41
Auctusif i share internet over ethernet with ubuntu, what's the first ip address it hands out? I plugged in a raspberry pi and i want to ssh to it but idk what ip it has15:41
zack263the ppi might be easier15:41
zack263i will just delete it and try the ppi15:42
zack263moving the folder doesn't sound like it would work15:42
oerheksAuctus, you could scan with nmap > sudo nmap -sn 192.168.X.Y/2415:45
Auctusoerheks: im connected to a wifi router with this computer, which is 192.168.*, and the raspberry pi is plugged into the ethernet jack on this computer, and im sharing internet out over the ethernet jack, via the network manager gui15:48
Auctusi tried scanning 10.42.*.*, looks like im the only one, 10.42.0.115:48
Auctusi shouldnt be doing this at 4am but its fun :p15:48
oerheksor check your router to see connected clients & ip15:49
Auctusthats what im sayin, the pi isnt connected to a router, its connected directly to this computer15:50
Auctusim out in my garage so i get wifi on this computer, but the pi has too weak an antenna to get any reception out here, and theres no router out here15:51
oerhekswell, find the ip range the ICS is using, in your nerwotkmanager perhaps?15:52
tgm4883Did you setup a DHCP server on your computer?15:53
tgm4883I don't know if it sets one up automatically15:53
Auctusall i did was go network manager -> edit connections -> wired connection -> ipv4 settings -> shared to other computers15:54
minimecAuctus: https://askubuntu.com/a/19452615:54
tgm4883Auctus: yea I don't think that sets up a DHCP address15:54
tgm4883DHCP server*15:55
CreativeWolfHeya all :)15:56
EriC^^hey CreativeWolf15:56
linuxnoob011hi all. i'm having networking trouble with ubuntu and i'm hoping someone can help me out. i have connectivity over wifi, but ethernet does not work15:56
CreativeWolfI'm trying to block USB Storage on a desktop - Tried adding blacklist usb_storage in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and modprobe -r usb_storage in /etc/rc.local15:57
CreativeWolfBut still as a desktop user i'm able to mount USB15:58
CreativeWolfHeya EriC^^ :)15:58
CreativeWolflinuxnoob011, what happens with ethernet?15:58
linuxnoob011so if i manage it through network manager, it's a giant mess--i don't even get an assigned IP address15:59
linuxnoob011if i set it up to use a static address, i get the desired ip address, but only spotty connectivity--maybe it'll work for a few mins after reboot, but usually not15:59
EriC^^CreativeWolf: try udevadm monitor and plug it in and see which ones it's using15:59
linuxnoob011when i monitor tcp activity16:00
linuxnoob011it appears that the ubuntu machine cannot locate the gateway16:00
EriC^^CreativeWolf: if something else depends on usb_storage you have to remove it too16:00
linuxnoob011(by monitor tcp activity, i mean tcpdump)16:00
CreativeWolfEriC^^, Says Kernel16:01
EriC^^CreativeWolf: try to plug the usb hdd in16:01
linuxnoob011oh, other piece of useful information, CreativeWolf. I was in here with this q yesterday and could not get it sorted--ended up reinstalling ubuntu and i'm still having issues (although somewhat different issues)16:02
CreativeWolfEriC^^, I just did...it's mounting :/16:02
EriC^^CreativeWolf: try lsmod | grep usb_storage16:02
EriC^^CreativeWolf: did it mention the modules it loaded? (udevadm)16:02
CreativeWolfEriC^^, lsmod | grep usb_storage says usb_storage 69632 2 uas16:03
CreativeWolfEriC^^, scsi_disk, scsi_generic bdi block16:04
CreativeWolfusb as well16:04
CreativeWolf(that's from udevadm)16:05
CreativeWolflinuxnoob011, Checked different cable, check port16:05
EriC^^CreativeWolf: ok remove the usb, then try modprobe -r uas16:06
EriC^^and usb_storage and see how that goes16:06
linuxnoob011CreativeWolf I have tried a different cable and port on the router; computer only has one ethernet port, which worked in my old apartment but does not work in my new apartment (new internet and router as of a day or so ago)16:06
linuxnoob011CreativeWolf: my windows laptop can connect to the router via ethernet, however16:07
hellphi16:08
EriC^^hi16:09
lordcirthlinuxnoob011, what ethernet chip is it? 'lspci'16:09
linuxnoob011lordcirth Qualcomm Atheros QCA8171 Gigabit Ethernet16:10
linuxnoob011lordcirth i do recall that when i last installed ubuntu (i.e., before this current fresh install), I had to dick around with things to get ethernet to work. IIRC, i just had to upgrade the kernel to something 4.8 or later. i'm currently at 4.10 so that isn't the issue this time around16:12
CreativeWolfEriC^^, Still gets mounted16:12
lordcirthlinuxnoob011, what does 'lsmod | grep alx' return?16:12
EriC^^CreativeWolf: try to modprobe -r the modules that udevadm mentions, scsi_ ... etc16:13
linuxnoob011lordcirth: lsmod | grep alx16:13
linuxnoob011alx                    45056  016:13
linuxnoob011mdio                   16384  1 alx16:13
EriC^^CreativeWolf: as well as usb_storage and uas16:13
CreativeWolfEriC^^, Okay16:13
lordcirthlinuxnoob011, ok so the driver is running16:13
linuxnoob011lordcith yes, definitely (one of the first things i chcekd, as this was an issue in earlier distributions, like 12.0x era)16:14
linuxnoob011is there anything unusual about fios (and how it is installed) that might lead to this issue? i struggle to see how ethernet plug n play could be failing...16:15
renatonetoi'm still having trouble finding the cause my ubuntu hangs when i shut it down16:17
renatonetoi'm really clueless, some1 who can offer help?16:18
EriC^^renatoneto: did you try pressing esc and seeing what it says?16:18
renatonetoEriC^^ yes, it doesn't do anything16:18
EriC^^renatoneto: did you try acpi stuff?16:18
EriC^^(for grub)16:18
om26erHi! Can anyone using Unity confirm what this returns for them: `echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP`16:18
netituxwhat OS version do u have?16:18
om26er(in terminal)16:19
EriC^^Unity16:19
EriC^^om26er: ^16:19
renatonetoEric^^: nope, didn't foul around with apci16:19
om26erEriC^^: all caps ?16:19
EriC^^no, literally that16:19
om26erEriC^^: thanks.16:19
EriC^^np16:19
om26ercould anyone running Gnome shell do the same ?16:20
om26er(background: I am writing a software that has some environment specific features, so need to check if I should rely on that variable)16:20
linuxnoob011lordcirth, woops, i replied earlier but mistyped your name (serves me right for not using tab complete)16:20
lordcirthlinuxnoob011, yeah I'm not sure how to fix it.  Anything in dmesg or syslog?16:21
EriC^^renatoneto: try sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep Windows16:21
linuxnoob011lordcirth so right now, the ethernet is disabled, as i don't get wireless connectivity when my ethernet is on.16:21
linuxnoob011i'll pop the ethernet on, check dmesg and report back16:21
[n0mad]i use gnome and echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP returns blank16:21
linuxnoob011my sense is that dmesg shows no errors, but that tcpdump shows a bunch of arp requests asking about the ip address of the gateway16:22
renatonetoEriC^^:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/25459125/16:22
linuxnoob011lordcirth, that is, i see the ubuntu computer asking "who has 192.168.1.1"16:22
om26er[n0mad]: thanks :)16:22
oerheksomgmaybe this page is a help https://askubuntu.com/a/22766916:22
lordcirthlinuxnoob011, Does your router have logs you can read, or a shell?16:22
EriC^^renatoneto: do you know how to edit grub and add nomodeset?16:23
lordcirthPersonally I would run tcpdump on my router to see if the arps are getting there16:23
linuxnoob011lordcirth probably. brand new router so i am super not savvy at it. but it's the default verizon fios router so i'm sure google will have my back16:23
oerheksecho $GDMSESSION16:23
linuxnoob011i'm pretty sure arps are not getting there--the router shows the ubuntu comp's ethernet connection as inactive16:23
linuxnoob011but i'll try to dig into that a bit more. guess i'll do dmesg and tcpdump on my ubuntu comp, then see if i can figure out diagnostics from the router's end, and then i'll report back16:24
renatonetoEriC^: i'll try that, just so you know, i'm running it inside a VM (VMware ESXi 5.2)16:24
EriC^^renatoneto: ohh, nevermind then16:25
EriC^^renatoneto: well, actually who knows i guess, try editing grub, and instead of adding nomodeset, put "acpi_osi="Windows 2006" "16:26
CreativeWolfEriC^^, modprobe -r usb_storage throws error that it's in use, even after removing the drive and none of the other modules (usb, scsi_disk, scsi_host, bdi, scsi_generic) are found16:27
om26er[n0mad]: last one: what does `echo $XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP` return ?16:27
EriC^^CreativeWolf: remove uas and try again16:27
[n0mad]om26er: blank16:28
om26erdude, that session is screwed.16:29
EriC^^i think XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP usually gives the de16:29
EriC^^not just unity16:29
EriC^^i mean it works on lubuntu gnomeshell etc16:29
om26erEriC^^: yeah, for me it says KDE16:30
CreativeWolfEriC^^, modprobe -r uas did the trick but after reboot it still gets mounted16:32
EriC^^CreativeWolf: blacklist it16:32
CreativeWolfEriC^^, do you think I should add blacklist uas in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf (I've already added modprobe -r uas in /etc/rc.local)16:33
CreativeWolfEriC^^, cool.16:33
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CreativeWolfEriC^^, Thanks a lot, that did the trick!16:35
EriC^^CreativeWolf: cool, np16:35
renatonetoEriC^^ : when i try to update-grub it says "/usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 11: /etc/default/grub: 2006: not found"16:36
EriC^^renatoneto: type "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termview.me 9999"16:36
EriC^^paste the link it gives you here16:36
renatonetoEriC^^ http://termview.me/vkmf16:37
renatonetoEriC^^ note my shutdown problem only occurs when i have net.ifnames=0 set16:38
EriC^^renatoneto: make it "acpi_osi=\"Windows 2006\""16:38
EriC^^ah16:38
renatonetoEriC^^: just for the record, i've tried rebooting with  "acpi_osi=\"Windows 2006\"" but it didn't change a thing16:40
[n0mad]om26er: hahaha i'm dumb16:43
[n0mad]I was in an ssh and didn't even notice16:44
[n0mad]echo $XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP = gnome16:44
om26er[n0mad]: cool, that would explain it :)16:44
[n0mad]echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP = GNOME16:44
EriC^^renatoneto: oh ok16:44
pinkisntwellI just installed ubuntu 16.04 as a Vagrant VM and for the life of me I can't get syntax highlighting to work16:48
stumpysIs there a way to restore a win10 mbr using a ubuntu (xubuntu) live(ish) usb drive?17:06
EriC^^!info install-mbr17:14
ubottuPackage install-mbr does not exist in zesty17:14
EriC^^!info install-mbr xenial17:14
ubottuPackage install-mbr does not exist in xenial17:14
EriC^^!info mbr xenial17:15
ubottumbr (source: mbr): Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.11-5ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 19 kB, installed size 46 kB17:15
EriC^^stumpys: https://askubuntu.com/questions/5748/how-to-restore-windows-7-mbr-without-a-cd17:15
stumpysEriC^^/ubottu Thx for the pointers, will check them (and the link) out. much appreciated.17:25
maxcell_17.10?17:44
maxcell_how its going?17:44
EriC^^stumpys: np17:49
rfsharkwhat sox do?17:53
illuminatedwhy is google chrome ignoring my mime type settings.  I have a mime type set for torrents, and when I open the .torrent file via chrome it opens in anything other than the program I've specified.  the .torrent file opens correctly when I open it via nautilus and it opens with the correct program in firefox.  chrome, however, nope.18:00
birdman007I put the ubuntu iso image on a flash drive with rufus and it boots into grub instead of the regular live wm enviroment. How do i boot into ubuntu?18:01
Ben64birdman007: well what happens after grub18:01
birdman007it boot into the grub cli, grub>18:03
Ben64then the usb wasn't created properly18:04
birdman007ive done it a couple of times using rufus and pendrive and it still wont boot properly, could it be the flash drive18:05
EriC^^birdman007: try "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg"18:05
birdman007EriC^^: alright, lets see what happens18:06
rfsharkwhat sox command do?18:07
Ben64rfshark: man sox18:09
rfsharkthanks Ben6418:09
rfshark:)18:09
godsringHey there I am having an issue setting up mobile broadband with a samsung galaxy s8 on any 12+ version of ubuntu or any other flavour It gives me a message on my phone when it attempts to connect invalid mmi or bad connection but it sets up fine as a modem on windows18:09
rfsharkman sox18:09
rfsharkNo manual entry for sox18:09
godsringAs my cell is my only source of net this prevents me from using linux without a work around18:10
[n0mad]rfshark: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/sox.1.html18:10
rfsharkthanks [n0mad]18:11
rfshark:)18:11
godsringAt one time ubuntu had very dedicated support for DUN connections18:14
godsringUsed to never have issues with mobile devices18:15
godsringI suppose that was actuallu due to whoever maintains the networking portion of the code and drivers18:15
godsringRegardless though if it works on windows using drivers from 2005 it should work on linux18:16
godsringI guess im stuck using windows 1018:20
keb_anyone use rofi with ubuntu? trying to figure out how to set it up with hotkeys to pull up the launcher. can't find a guide anywhere.18:43
ducassekeb_: the man page is really good, i use rofi a lot18:46
keb_ducasse, i've been looking at the manpage, but perhaps i'm too nooby to understand lol. once i install it, should i be able to use a hotkey to bring up the launcher?18:47
keb_or does that have to be specified somewhere18:47
ducassekeb_: you have to bind it to a key and launch it with the modes you want, "rofi -i -show" will open it in default mode. (-i means non-case sensitive)18:49
keb_ducasse, i just tried 'rofi -i -show' but nothing happens18:50
keb_do i have to specify window or run mode?18:50
ducasseit works here, which version are you using?18:51
keb_ducasse, 0.15.1118:52
ducasseoh, that is ancient. yes, that had a daemon mode. you configure rofi through the x resources to act on whatever key you want, then launch it.18:53
ducasseit has changed quite dramatically :)18:53
keb_ducasse, ahh where can i find a more modern version?18:53
keb_is there a new ppa?18:54
ducassewhich release are you running?18:55
keb_xubuntu 16.1018:55
ducasseerm.., that is eol...18:55
ducasseyou need to upgrade18:56
keb_woops18:56
keb_ducasse, sorry i meant 16.04 LTS18:56
ducassekeb_: try "deb http://debian.sur5r.net/rofi/ xenial universe", but that is of course totally unsupported18:59
keb_ducasse, i thought 16.04 is still supported Ubuntu? :(19:00
keb_what is the newest version?19:00
kostkonkeb_, it's still supported (and will be until april 2021). 3rd party repos do not get support here.19:01
EriC^^the release is, the ppa isn't technically supported by the channel, like "officially"19:01
ducassekeb_: 16.04 is still supported. latest official rofi is 1.3.1, which is in that repo19:01
keb_ah i see thank you19:02
godsringHmm19:03
godsringIs my question supported here19:03
godsringMentioning that it is a mmi issue19:03
godsringI honestly dont know where else to go19:04
keb_ducasse, is "deb http://debian.sur5r.net/rofi/ xenial universe" a command? how can i add this so that i can download a newer version of rofi? thanks. :S19:04
EriC^^keb_: echo "deb http://debian.sur5r.net/rofi/ xenial universe" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rofi.list19:05
godsringI suppose I need someone who knows how the mobile broadband feature works in the network manager19:05
EriC^^use that command, followed by sudo apt-get update19:05
fuserIs it possible to upgrade to 17.10 beta from 17.04?19:05
ducassekeb_: put it ib a file, call it /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rofi.list19:05
EriC^^fuser: no19:05
fuserok thanks19:05
EriC^^wait19:05
fuserok19:06
EriC^^thought you meant downgrade, yeah it is possible19:06
fuserand would this beta then be upgradable to the standard later release?19:06
EriC^^sudo do-release-upgrade -d19:06
EriC^^yeah19:06
godsringAt this point I would take any suggestions19:06
fuserokay cool, I'm really looking forward to some fixes that are in there, at the risk of other bugs!19:06
ducassekeb_: you can give -show arguments like a list of modes, all this is in the man page19:06
fuserThanks Eric19:06
EriC^^fuser: sure, np19:07
keb_thanks ducasse and EriC^^ i will try to install the new version now :)19:07
godsring$5 if you can fix my issue with the mobile broadband networking and my samsung galaxy s8?19:08
hackedheadhow can I install 17.04 without installing a bootloader19:08
hackedhead(i have an existing LILO bootloader in place that I will add ubuntu into)19:09
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ioriasudo ubiquity --no-bootloader ?19:09
EriC^^hackedhead: ubiquity -b or the above19:10
ducasse!patience | godsring19:10
ubottugodsring: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/19:10
hackedheadthanks, trying19:11
godsringI get an error when trying to use mobile broadband connection with my samsung galaxy s8. A message displays on my phones screen saying invalid mmi or invalid connection. This issue is not present in windows 7-10 using the 2006 samsung modem driver19:12
godsringThe mmi code appears the same as whats used in windows *99#19:12
hackedheadlet's hope skipping the 3rd party and updates will allow me to complete installation without running out of space... (on the ramdisk? i guess?)19:14
silvianHai World!19:14
cyphexHello, can someone please help me create a bootable win7 usb. I've been trying to do that for the past 10 hours and I'm starting to lose it.19:14
godsringA solution such as a way to issue a dun connection without the network manager would help aswell19:14
godsringAre you on linux or windows cyphex?19:14
EriC^^cyphex: you tried winusb i presume?19:15
cyphexI'm on 17.04 ubuntu19:15
cyphextried woeusb since I read that winusb is not working19:15
EriC^^oh19:15
ducassecyphex: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-using-ubuntu19:15
godsringHave you tried copying over the files and setting up the drive manually19:15
cyphexyep19:15
godsringHmm19:15
godsringAre you trying to do UEFI?19:16
cyphexgodsring, whatever works19:16
godsringYou could try using unetbootin19:17
cyphexdidn't they drop support for windows images?19:17
silviancyphex: are you trying to build a win 7 image using Ubuntu?19:17
EriC^^cyphex: check the link ducasse gave you, it has a ton of solutions19:17
godsringNot to my knowledge regardless you would partition with gparted anyhow19:17
cyphexEriC^^, I've tried most of them to no avail19:18
EriC^^cyphex: does the windows image you have support uefi?19:18
cyphexsilvian, I have an image ready, I need to flash it to the usb media and be able to boot from it19:18
EriC^^making a uefi bootable usb is easy19:18
godsringHere is a good guide for you cyphex19:18
godsringhttp://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html19:18
godsringWill guide you through using unetbootin19:18
cyphexI'll give that a shot, thanks19:19
EriC^^cyphex: are you trying to dual boot with your current ubuntu?19:19
hackedheadlast resort: microsoft will mail you such a USB ;-)19:19
silviancyphex: if you are building it using ubuntu then strongly recommend Ubuntu's Startup Disk Creator app :)19:20
cyphexmy story is long and painful EriC^^19:20
EriC^^silvian: that's just for ubuntu images19:20
ioriasilvian, why you say that ? have you tried it ?19:20
godsringI feel where you are coming from cyphex I have also had to go back to windows19:20
EriC^^cyphex: if you use uefi it will become less painful19:21
godsring16.10 onward has had loads of driver issues19:21
godsringYou should listen to some of Bryan Lunduke's videos19:23
ducassegodsring: us? why? we are support volunteers only.19:23
silviani would have thought that startup disk creator would take any .iso file... i guess not?19:23
silvianlast resort would be to use dd19:24
akiksilvian: neither works for windows isos19:24
EriC^^silvian: that's also for linux hybrid iso images19:24
ducasseno, windows iso's are not hybrid images19:24
cyphexyeah, dd doesn't work with windows because microsoft is special19:24
godsringTry using rufus with DD if you are on windows19:25
EriC^^cyphex: for uefi all you have to do is make a fat32 partition and extract the iso there, you'll know if it's uefi if it has a efi dir in it19:26
godsringI have made a few good ubuntu usb drives with rufus19:26
EriC^^i doubt win7 was uefi though19:26
godsringWindows 7 definitely supports uefi19:26
godsringJust not secure boot19:26
silvianoh that's really annoying... so you have to install windows to create bootable windows install USB stick lol!19:26
akiksilvian: you can create it in linux just fine19:27
godsringYou could just take your windows image make a virtualbox install of it19:27
godsringuse rufus to put it on a drive19:27
EriC^^cyphex: are you going to dual boot with ubuntu?19:27
godsringI have done that before as well19:27
godsringAs a game developer I wish supporting linux wasnt so painful19:28
cyphexEriC^^, I wanna install win7 and then my usual linux distro (manjaro)19:28
silviancypex: oh BINGO https://unetbootin.github.io/19:28
EriC^^cyphex: ok, extract the iso to a fat32 usb19:29
cyphexEriC^^, I've tried that19:29
silvianI think I foudn it... unetbootin was a tool i used to use on windows back in the day to make USB bootable linux images. I guess its cross platform :)19:29
EriC^^does it have an efi dir? cyphex19:29
godsringsilvian yes I told him about that I think he was having issue with it19:29
cyphexI'm trying out unetbootin right now, I'll check afterwards if it doesn't work out19:29
silviancybpex: cool best of luck19:30
cyphexthanks19:30
godsringcyphex as a last resort you could setup a vm and put the iso on with rufus from there19:30
silviancyphex i can't even spell lol19:30
cyphexgodsring, I tried to set up a VM but qemu decided to hit me with all the bugs it could find19:30
cyphexeverything just went wrong for me today lol19:31
godsringYou could try the trial of vmware OR you could use vitrualbox cyphex19:31
cyphexvmware didn't work either19:31
cyphexI am a broken man at this point19:31
godsringNow that is weird19:31
ioriaremember something about mkusb ...19:31
silviancyphex: VM WORK DIDN'T WORK??? That's unpossible! :D19:31
cyphexhahaha19:31
godsringWell his drive my be corrupt or his install of ubuntu is just broken19:32
godsringmight*19:32
cyphexI installed ubuntui because I thought my manjaro install was messed up19:32
silvianI've always reliad on VMware... because its very stable and supports nearly everything you can throw at it.19:32
silvianI have a personal vendetta with virtual box. It hates me even more than I hate it.19:33
godsringcyphex maybe you have drive corruption19:33
godsringHave you run a smart test?19:33
cyphexI used the same drive to install ubuntu19:33
cyphexabout 30 minutes ago19:33
cyphexoh dear god qemu decided to work. I am saved19:37
cyphexI LOVE ALL OF YOU DEEPLY AND FOREVER19:37
zachg5757Hello19:37
zachg5757Can I get some help booting into my ubuntu partition?19:38
hackedheadi'm trying to use boot-repair, but I'm getting gzip: stdout: No space left on device when trying to generate the initramfs19:38
hackedhead(I'm booted into a liveUSB 17.04)19:38
silviancyphex: well done indeed! So now qemu is our new lord and saviour :D19:38
hackedheadmy target boot partition is a 100MB LV19:39
cyphexhackedhead, have you mounted your boot partition? (or the partition that contains it)19:40
ducassehackedhead: 'sudo apt autoremove'19:41
hackedheadI assume boot-repair did the appropriate thing that it wanted, I'm following it's instructions19:41
hackedheadducasse: i'm not booted into the target system, so that seems unlikely to help19:41
hackedheadI can grow the LV....19:41
zachg5757I'm using ubuntu 1604 and I've been trying to set up grub to dual boot ubuntu and windows 10 on two different ssds19:41
hackedheadbut how large would I expect it to need to be?19:41
ducassehackedhead: chroot into it, then19:42
zachg5757But for some reason I'm now in recover mode on ubuntu and I can't boot into windows 1019:42
zachg5757This happened from boot-recovery19:42
zachg5757and os prober19:42
hackedheadcyphex: it certainly looks mounted, per mount/df, and the boot-repair command that is failing is using a chroot, so I assume it's already mounted in the expected place19:42
hackedheadducasse: thing is... this is a brand new install19:42
hackedheadbut let's try it.19:43
ducassehackedhead: a 100mb /boot is a bit small imo19:43
hackedheadducasse: autoremove failed with the same error =P19:44
hackedheadducasse: okay, what's appropriate?19:44
hackedhead(I figured that storing a couple kernels and initrds would not consume much room, but apparently ubuntu wants to do other things with that partition as well.....)19:44
akikhackedhead: one kernel + other files for that version takes about 50 megs19:45
hackedheadakik: yeah, i'm okig around now, apparently the existing initrd is 43MB19:46
hackedheadwhich is a lot larger than I expected19:46
zachg5757Whenever someone get's a chance, ping me please. I'll hop back onto this tab19:46
marcisbHello all how i can see my ipconfig info like in windows with command ipconfig19:48
marcisbsimillar in ubuntu19:48
marcisb?19:48
ducassezachg5757: you need to re-ask every 15-20 minutes, or nothing will happen19:48
silvianmarcisb: ifconfig19:48
marcisbok thx19:49
hackedheadokay. now 500MB, seems to be working19:49
silvianyou're welcome :)19:49
hackedheadTIL19:49
zachg5757ducasse: Thanks. I'll be sure to keep reasking. I just didn't want to clog up the chat19:49
marcisbI ḿ windows user who understand linux is way better : )19:49
silvianmarcisb: another alternative is also: ip a19:51
silvianso you got choices ;)19:51
marcisbsilvian, Thank yu so much i like learn linux with help19:51
silvianmarcisb: linux is a lot of fun especially when you have a good community to back you up19:52
marcisbsilvian, Yes : )19:53
zachg5757Can someone help me with my ubuntu boot issues19:54
godsringLinux is better in the sense of its core mission perhaps19:54
godsringAs a game developer Windows is still better19:54
godsringThough linux is getting better then it used to be19:55
silvianmacrisb: also if you have spare 5-6 minutes a day i recommend you watch some of these videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klP_Ik9NN7o19:55
godsringDeveloping on linux is a pain the lack of dedicated driver support is a pain etc19:55
MonkeyDustgodsring  as opposed to windows, you mean?19:55
silvianI highly recommend them to beginners and even some advanced users who wish to learn more19:55
godsringComparing windows and linux yes monkeydust19:56
godsringWith the direction windows is taking with its linux subsystem it might end the need of us developers even using linux19:57
godsringAs sad as it may be19:58
hackedheadgodsring: hahahahahahaha19:58
oerhekshow is this related to ubuntu technical support? try #ubuntu-discuss or offtopic?19:59
hackedheadcall me when windows fixes it's windowing stack, process control and has a decent terminal emulator19:59
hackedheadoerheks: apologies, i'll drop it.19:59
MonkeyDustgodsring  i'm sure you're right ...  https://insights.ubuntu.com/case-studies/ ...20:00
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zachg5757Can I get some help with setting up my bootable drives?20:02
godsringI would say more but oerheks has a point its not entirely related to #ubuntu tech support20:04
oerheks#ubuntu-on-windows is usually dead20:04
zachg5757Is anyone around that can help? I can't login to my computer20:07
silvianzachg5757: how can we help you? what is the issue?20:07
lordcirthIt's in scrollback20:07
lordcirthzachg5757, BIOS or EFI?20:07
zachg5757I'm not too sure. How can I check this? I think EFI though20:08
hackedheadwhen using LVM, should grub be installed to /dev/sda MBR or /dev/dm-# (the LV)20:08
lordcirthhackedhead, sda, BIOS doesn't understand LVM20:09
zachg5757And the issue is that when I login to ubuntu, it says that there are errors reading usb devices then it shows up in a terminal on a black screen. I think it's recovery mode20:09
silvianzachg5757 so you got past your Grub menu yes?20:10
hackedhead.... core.img unusually large, embedding failed, but embeding is required for LVM20:10
hackedheadso now what?20:10
zachg5757silvian Yes. I did. But in my grub menu, I don't see my Windows boot disk which is a separate issue20:10
lordcirthhackedhead, did you forget to leave a 1MB space before your partitions?20:11
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silvianhmm ok one thing at a time (although they could be related). What USB devices do you have plugged in?20:11
hackedheadlordcirth: likely, since this is system used to just boot via LILO20:11
silvianand are you booting ubuntu from usb or directly off your main drive?20:12
zachg5757The usual stuff. Mouse, keyboard, bluetooth connector and a web cam. I have ubuntu installed on its own SSD20:12
zachg5757I can still use my keyboard when it's in the terminal though20:13
silvianok that is interesting...20:13
zachg5757I was booting in successfully before20:13
silvianfirst thing I would try (I suspect this is kernel/driver issues with usb devices) is to boot back into the Grub menu and downgrade the kernel. Select a previous kernel installed from the menu.20:13
lordcirthhackedhead, so, this is an existing install you are switching from LILO to GRUB?20:13
silvianzachg5757: yeah try downgrading kernel first and lets see how it behaves :)20:14
hackedheadlordcirth: it's an existing slackware install on LVM using LILO20:14
hackedhead(LILO also boots windows of sdb)20:14
hackedhead(or did, it's been blown awaay by repeated attempts to get ubuntu going)20:14
hackedheadubuntu has two LVs of its own (50G /,500MB /boot)20:15
hackedheadsda is one big PV with (now) 4LVs20:15
hackedheadall in one volgroup20:15
zachg5757I was attempting to get windows to appear on grub and following some tutorials. I used os prober to find windows but that actually broke the windows partition. Second, I used boot-repair and that stopped my ubuntu from allowing me to log in20:15
zachg5757silvian. How do I downgrade it? I'm in grub20:15
hackedhead(and I want to preserve the slackware install)20:15
silvianok so in your grub menu is you use the down arrows do you see more kernel versions listed?20:16
silvianlike 4.4.0.93-generic 4.4.092-generic etc20:16
zachg5757I have "Advanced options for ubuntu", "efi/ubuntu/mmx64.efi", "efi/ubuntu/mmx64.efi sdb1", and "system setup"20:17
zachg5757And of course "ubuntu"20:17
silvianubuntu usually keeps a few backed up old kernels20:17
silvianok try advanced options20:17
silvianand lets see if they're in there20:17
zachg5757"Yup That has some old versions of linux. It has 4.10.0-33-generic and 4.10.0-28-generic as is, as (upstart) and as (recovery mode)20:18
silvianperfect try the older one20:18
silvian4.10.0.28-generic20:18
zachg5757It's starting the same showing usb usb1-port1: unable to enumerate USB device and the same for usb4-port 1. And now it's in recovery mode again20:19
silvianinteresting...20:21
zachg5757I did change my /etc/fstab as I found online. I commented out everything in a hope that my computer woudl reboot and automagically fix it20:22
silvianhmm can you try to put /etc/fstab back the way it was?20:23
silvianand then lets walk back to what changed before this started to happen. Because the cause here might be the last thing that changed on the system before it started to go wrong20:24
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zachg5757Woo! Somehow that turned my ubuntu partition back on. Thanks! Let me check to see if windows boots. Question though. What is the difference between uefi and bios?20:27
silvianzachg5757: here a tip i learned from experience... never change /etc/ config files without taking a backup of it ;)20:27
silvianyou'll never know when you need to roll them back :P20:28
zachg5757Hahaha I'll take that to heart. Thank goodness I didn't delete it and just commented out 3 lines20:28
silvianok so UEFI (aka the Devil) is the *cough* new *cough* Mac had it for ages *cough* *cough* way to do bootloaders for PCs20:29
silvianas a replacement for BIOS aka the Basic Information Operating System20:29
silvianBIOS dates back way back around the 80s20:29
silvianits a simple way to provide basic OS and utilities aka drivers for keyboard and basic graphics/text to the PC using a read only memory chip on the mother board an EPROM chip20:30
ducasse'basic input/output system', actually20:30
silvianthis then helps load up and boot the OS or boot from a floppy disk etc etc20:31
silviandoes basic utitites and configs20:31
tesla_apparently a uefi is capable of running a web browser is this true20:31
silvianUEFI is a more advanced bootloader with a lot more features and security. Even has mouse suport. Same idea as the bios except because of its security focus it can be a lot more controlling and restrictive20:31
tesla_((security))20:32
zachg5757And this bios is different from mother board bios? Or is it the same20:32
silviancan cause nightmares with some linux distros that are not supported by certain UEFI makers etc.20:32
zachg5757And should I be looking to use bios mainly instead of uefi?20:32
silvianwell to be honest you won't have a choice for much longer. ALL PC manufacturers are moving to UEFI20:33
silvianUbuntu is quite well supported but you can certainly run into trouble with other distros especially if you're running your own.20:33
marcisbI have problem with chrome browser it loses connection of internet20:33
marcisbIts bug or something like that?20:33
silvianideally if you like doing distro hopping playing with other wierd OSes its a good idea to have a BIOS. Its a lot more flexible allows you to do anything.20:34
tesla_yeah but most UEFI implementations can emulate BIOS though right?20:34
silviantesla_ maybe I have little experience with UEFI outside of a Mac. All my PCs run BIOS.20:34
zachg5757Ok. So probebly UEFI would be best for me because at the moment, I only want to use windows 10 and ubuntu stable20:35
zachg5757But to be honest, whatever works I like haha20:35
akikzachg5757: both win10 and ubuntu can use the bios scheme20:35
silvianexactly. zachg5757 especially since it  provides more security at boot. protects your master boot record and has better support updates from manufacturers. stick to what works for you20:36
silvianmarcisb do you have another browser installed like firfox? Have you tested to ensure its not your internet connection but in fact its the browser?20:37
zachg5757Ok. ok. I don't even know what it started with hahaha. So I'll leave it with defaults. Now why do you think my windows partition doesn't boot up?20:37
ducassetesla_: most uefi firmwares so far has csm (compatibilty support mode) to offer legacy bios support, but that will probably disappear eventually20:38
zachg5757I get an error that I can't mount it when I try to open it with a windows manager20:38
silvianzachg5757 does it appear in your grub menu?20:38
zachg5757No.20:39
silvianok extra fun for you zachg5757 we have to recover grub20:40
zachg5757:( fun... I can get to my grub menu, but windows does not appear in it20:40
silvianyeah i recon we need to reinstall grub20:42
silvianits probably a little bit upset20:42
zachg5757Ok. Do you think that it's all grub? Because even if I boot my Windows ssd from my bios, it doesn't log in20:43
silvianok wait can you get to windows at all? I thought the first problem was that windows did not appear in your grub menu20:44
marcisbsilvian, Yes i have firefox also20:44
marcisbI go to test firefox20:44
zachg5757Well yes. That was the issue before, but after I ran os-prober, I could no longer boot into windowx20:45
marcisbWhich is best browser for ubuntu?20:45
lordcirthmarcisb, that's a matter of opinion. Firefox is default.  Chromium is in the repos20:46
ducassemarcisb: we can't tell you which is best for you20:46
silvianmarcisb: I'm quite happy with Firefox myself but if you prefer chrome you can also install it.20:46
unholymachinewhy would ubuntu 16.04.2 not show my access point but show others in the area?20:46
akikzachg5757: silvian: it could be just running "sudo update-grub" will fix it20:46
zachg5757However, sudo fdisk -l shows /dev/sdb1 throuigh /dev/sdb4 which has my Microsoft reserved, "Windows recovery environment" "efi system" and "Microsoft basic data"20:46
silvianyeah i was going to suggest that next to zachg575720:46
zachg5757Idk. I can try it again, but recently update-grub has not been fixing it20:46
silvianwhat i meant by reinstall grub20:47
silvianbut you may need to do the full install though20:47
zachg5757When I run `sudo update-grub` I get some linux and initrd images found but then "Failed to probe /dev/sdb4 for filesystem type" which is my main windows data storage spot20:48
silvianmarcisb: regarding your issue with chrome... was just thinking. Are you sure you haven't played with the proxy settings inside chrome settings?20:48
AudioHey, I have a problem with the make command, can anyone help me?20:49
silvianok zachg5757 run fdisk -l20:49
silvianas root of course sudo20:49
unholymachineit's strange because the access point has no trouble being found under windows . . .20:49
zachg5757Yup. What are you looking for in particular20:50
AudioWell the make command fails,20:50
marcisbsilvian, I go to check proxy settings in chrome20:50
AudioI installed opencv20:50
silvianif sdb4 show up and what type of file system does it detect?20:50
zachg5757It does and it's type "Microsoft basic data"20:50
Audio2.4, because I need it for LSD_SLAM, however when I come to the step where 'make' is required it fails20:51
silviandoes it get listed as NTFS or FAT or something?20:51
AudioI have been following this tutorial http://www.pyimagesearch.com/2015/06/22/install-opencv-3-0-and-python-2-7-on-ubuntu/20:51
zachg5757Mm I don't see anything about NTFS or FAT20:51
zachg5757Disklabel type of sdb is gpt20:51
AudioI can provide the errors too if you'd like zachg575720:52
zachg5757What's that Audio?20:52
silviancan you do a paste of your fdisk -l output?20:52
silvianuse pastebin and put the link below20:53
Audiooh, sorry I thought you were referring to me20:53
silviansoz i meant zachg575720:53
zachg5757Hahaha Sorry. Sure. I'll pastebin it20:55
zachg5757https://gist.github.com/Zman94/8ff73029f8606c70c66e38c0d7a8e9a020:57
marcisbWhich best software in linux for fast notes?20:58
EriC^^zachg5757: what's happening right now when you boot?20:58
marcisbAll using default desktop environment of ubuntu?20:58
zachg5757It opens up in grub showing ubuntu20:58
zachg5757Sorry let me finish that message EriC^^20:58
EriC^^zachg5757: ok, you want windows there as well?20:59
EriC^^ok20:59
zachg5757If I boot onto my windows disk it says please insert a bootable drive and press any key. I want to be able to log in to windows first, and I want grub to show it too20:59
stumpyswill using "install-mbr" or writing mbr.bin to my win drv screw things up if my win drive is efi, and/or encrypted using bitlocker?20:59
silvianok cool lets check a few things first. Can you mount /dev/sdb4 somewhere in /mnt/windows or something similar zachg575721:00
silvianand see if you can read the filesystem in linux first of all?21:01
silvianjust ruling out any data corruption on your sdb drive21:01
silvianor parittion21:01
EriC^^zachg5757: what do you mean if you boot into the windows disk?21:01
EriC^^you mean selecting it in the grub screen or ?21:02
ducassestumpys: try asking that in ##windows21:02
marcisbsilvian, Do you know which desktop environment is better for web developer?21:02
zachg5757silvian I tried to open my windows volume in nautilus and i'm unable to access it. Let me post my error to another pastebin21:02
silvianEriC^^ I don't think zachg5757 can even see windows in his grub menu yet21:02
zachg5757EriC^^ I boot directly to the disk in my Bios. It doesn't show up in grub21:03
silvianok zachg5757 don't forget you may need root to open it21:03
EriC^^zachg5757: aha21:03
EriC^^zachg5757: try "sudo update-grub" in ubuntu and see if it mentions windows21:03
silvianmarcisb again based on personal preference I like GNOME desktop. I think it offers both simplicity and flexibility I like my desktop to be minimalistic21:04
zachg5757silvian I posted it as a comment on the pastebin. How do I mount it?21:04
EriC^^zachg5757: when you're selecting your windows disk in the bios, are you selecting the uefi hdd version? i'm guessing no21:04
zachg5757EriC^^ update-grub says Failed to probe /dev/sdb4 for filesystem type21:05
silviani don't like having to mess with it so much hence i don't like kde as much but to be honest whatever works for you and your workflow. Also if you have low resources XFCE is also a good choice as it keeps ram usage very low. Hope this helps marcisb21:05
marcisbsilvian, How i can get gnome desktop? : )21:05
marcisbsilvian, THank you about suggestion21:06
EriC^^zachg5757: aha21:06
zachg5757marcisb I personally use i3wm21:06
EriC^^zachg5757: what does "sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt" give you?21:06
zachg5757but here's a link for ubuntu gnome. It should work fine if you are installing it from terminal. http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/how-to-install-gnome-38-on-ubuntu/21:07
zachg5757I'd imaging21:07
zachg5757EriC^^ I boot from the SATA drive directly. The Windows Boot Manager with my drive sends me right back to bios21:08
silvianzachg5757 I replied to your comment :)21:08
zachg5757For some reason, I have a windows boot manager and a linux boot manager for every disk wihch is weird21:08
EriC^^zachg5757: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb | nc termview.me 999921:08
zachg5757sylvian Thanks! I'll try mounting it now21:09
zachg5757silvian how do I open the drive as root?21:09
silvianmarcisb if you are already running ubuntu you can get it from apt install or synaptic package manager and run it along side Unity if you like.21:09
zachg5757Hey why are my drives flip flopping so much? fdisk -l now shows windows as sda and ubuntu as sdb21:10
silvianor you can install a dedicated Ubuntu distribution running with gnome by default21:10
silvianzachg5757 from the terminal you can sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt/yourfolder21:11
silvianthen as root you can navigate and view the files inside it21:11
EriC^^zachg5757: if you add that line to fstab ubuntu might not boot anymore too21:11
zachg5757O! I just realized you sent that line in the pastebin21:11
zachg5757Should I add the line? I can always try removing it after if it breaks21:12
EriC^^zachg5757: no, it doesn't make much sense21:12
EriC^^you can try mounting it with those options if you want manually, but anyways i think the drive is toast or something cause it has input/output errors, run the smart test on it and see what you get21:13
silvianhere's one for you marcisb http://ubuntugnome.org/21:13
zachg5757I just posted the output of the mount command21:13
silvianor you could wait until ubuntu 17.10 comes out. As it will come with GNOME by default and all subsequent releases of Ubuntu will only have GNOME. ;)21:14
silvianUnity destkop is being dropped.21:14
zachg5757What's the smart test?21:14
zachg5757silvian why is ubuntu swapping away from unity?21:14
pulsar12i always felt that unity was resource hog21:15
EriC^^zachg5757: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb | nc termview.me 999921:15
zachg5757Eric^^ did you mean /dev/sda?21:16
zachg5757My windows drive is now sda for some reason21:16
silvianUbuntu has lost insterest in supporting unity. I guess after their failed Ubuntu Touch phone and Unity convergence projects perhaps?21:17
EriC^^zachg5757: odd, ok21:17
silvianGNOME will be the default desktop environment starting with 17.10 so that it will be ready and well tested and stable come 18.04 LTS release next year.21:17
zachg5757So /dev/sda?21:17
EriC^^yup21:17
zachg5757EriC^^ termview.me/q3e121:18
EriC^^it should give you a link back to the results paste it here21:18
silvianoh that is interesting zachg5757 so what does fdisk -l say now? that sda4 is your windows main partition?21:19
zachg5757Yup21:19
silvianinteresting... lol21:19
EriC^^zachg5757: i think the smart results are good21:19
silviani'm confused about your computer here it seems to have a mind of its own21:19
EriC^^there's just PORT_Recovery_Count which is 39 i dont know what that means though21:20
zachg5757I'm confused by it too. I don't know boot drives too well :(21:20
silvianyou could try grub update again21:20
silvianand then maybe try to reboot and use grub to see if you can find and get into your windows21:21
silvianoh i remembered i also used this grub recovery tool before which comes in quite handy and provides a GUI zachg5757 if you want to give it a try21:21
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silviansudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update21:21
silviansudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair21:22
zachg5757Nope. Can't probe the windows image still. I can try rebooting, but I don't imagine it'll do too much21:22
EriC^^zachg5757: i think you should join ##windows and see what they say, probably something along the lines of booting a windows usb and running chkdisk or something21:22
zachg5757I used boot-repair silvian. That's what broke myubuntu boot hahaha21:22
zachg5757And os-prober is what broke my windows boot21:23
silvianah you're having a fun day then zachg575721:23
zachg5757hm I can definitely try that.21:23
zachg5757I might join then talk to them later21:23
marcisbWHat shortcut to minimize something in ubuntu?21:23
zachg5757I've got hw I need to do first :/ I might even just reinstall windows if it doesn't work and then just not use a boot loader21:23
EriC^^marcisb: alt followed by space quickly then n21:24
zachg5757I don't know why I'm having so many issues with grub and windows and ubuntu21:24
silvianok lets try now sudo update-grub then reboot and lets see if we got anywhere zachg575721:25
EriC^^zachg5757: maybe ntfsfix can do something good for the partition?21:25
silviansince now it appears to be on sda421:25
EriC^^sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda421:25
silviannah i'm not sure if the partition is damaged21:25
silviani doubt that is the main cause here21:26
zachg5757I don't think the partition is damaged. I think the boot manager was removed. And I don't know how to fix that21:26
silvianyou could give it a try i guess21:26
sveinseAnyone else with after-boot problems with samba on 16.04? smbd is exited for some reason (the log does not give any actionable clues), and manually restarting smbd always fixes samba sharing21:26
zachg5757rebooting now21:26
silviancool21:26
EriC^^zachg5757: nah the partition is damaged, it would have mounted otherwise21:26
zachg5757Should I boot into my windows drive? Because it doesn't show up in grub21:26
silvianyeah usually playing around with fstab or updating grub or reinstalling windows can cause issues like this.21:27
zachg5757EriC^^ why do you think os-prober would damage it?21:27
silvianyeah first check that you can boot into windows somehow if you can21:27
EriC^^zachg5757: i dont think that, but it is damaged right now21:27
silvianwe want to make sure you haven't lost your files21:27
EriC^^zachg5757: maybe some hard reset or something damaged it21:27
stumpysEriC^^: Hey, thx again for the link. I tried "boot repair disk" and "super grub disk" but no luck. Was going to try syslinux or install-mbr but am not 100% sure I won't nuke thigns21:27
zachg5757Yeah no such luck with restarting after update-grub21:28
stumpysEriC^^: do you think using "install-mbr" or writing mbr.bin to my win drv screw things up if my win drive is efi, and/or encrypted using bitlocker?21:28
EriC^^stumpys: wait why do you want to write a windows mbr if its efi?21:29
EriC^^those are opposite stuff21:29
silvianok zachg5757 is the windows drive a separate physical disk from the drive you use for ubuntu?21:30
zachg5757Yes21:30
silvianas in are you running two separate hard drives21:30
zachg57572 SSDs21:30
silvianok cool21:30
EriC^^stumpys: are you trying to get your windows efi install to boot?21:31
silviani would suggest trying to take it out and plug it as a secondary drive in another machine that is already running windows to check that you can read your files.21:31
silvianif that's an availabe option for you?21:31
stumpysEriC^^: yup, exactly. I tried installing xubuntu to a usb drive, that worked but now I have grub on my sys21:32
EriC^^stumpys: no worries the windows efi should still be there21:32
silvianor from your ubuntu zachg5757 check using gparted tool that it shows up correctly21:32
EriC^^stumpys: type "sudo parted -l | nc termview.me 9999"21:32
zachg5757Hm. I don't think that is an option. I have a usb with windows installer on it, but that's the best I got. I can run gparted. How do I do that?21:32
unholymachineis there a preferred method for creating a live persistant usb install?21:32
silviani'm getting a little bit worried that it got damaged21:33
stumpysEriC^^: yeah, fortunately it is, its just now I have to go to the computer boot menu and select the win boot manager21:33
silvianinside ubuntu just search for gparted and run it21:33
stumpysEriC^^: alright, will try that.21:33
silvianit should prompt you for your password and let it scan all your drives21:33
EriC^^stumpys: try "sudo update-grub" and see if it mentions windows21:33
EriC^^!persistence | unholymachine21:33
ubottuunholymachine: To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence21:33
zachg5757silvian I'm in21:34
silviancool what drive name is dedicated to it? and does it give you additional info about its file system?21:34
silviandoes it show up as sdb4 or something?21:34
EriC^^zachg5757: boot the windows usb and try to run chkdsk /f as the mount command suggested21:34
zachg5757I'll try that after gparted EriC^^21:35
EriC^^anything else you guys are doing you might as well be fondling your balls21:35
zachg5757silvian sda1 is unknown, sda4 is Basic data partition ntfs21:35
stumpysEriC^^: done, its on terview.me/80e621:35
zachg5757It has a warning saying that it requires the package ntfs-3g/ntfsprogs21:35
silvianok so if sda is your windows device21:35
silvianwhich one is your linux device?21:36
zachg5757adb21:36
silvianwhich one has ext file system shown to it?21:36
zachg5757I'm looking at sda right now21:36
stumpysEriC^^: oops, its on http://termview.me/80e621:36
EriC^^stumpys: any luck with update-grub?21:36
silvianah so i guess its sdb21:36
silvianthey swapped aroudn21:36
zachg5757yeah. Weird. Sda is lwindows, sdb is ubuntu21:37
zachg5757what's that warning about ntfs-3g?21:37
zachg5757And also, is the sda1 something important21:37
silvianwhat do you mean?21:38
silvianwhat warning do you get?21:38
marcisb /j #symfony21:38
stumpysEriC^^: ... didn't try it, will try now21:38
silviani suspect sda1 might be the windows recovery partition?21:38
zachg5757I'll post it21:38
marcisb:D21:38
silviansure :)21:38
silvianAHHH21:39
silvianyou're missing ntfs-3g driver support?21:40
silvianhow's that possible lol?21:40
stumpysEriC^^: That worked, in that it added it to the grub menu. Caveat though, I am hoping to remove grub and have the comp just boot to win normally21:40
zachg5757hahahah I don't even know what that is21:40
silvianwhat happens if you type in your terminal zachg5757 ntfs-3g ?21:41
stumpysEriC^^: and use ubuntu via the bio boot menu (as its a work comp and I only use ubuntu on it for personal stuff)21:41
silvianits the kernel driver bit that makes ntfs compatible with linux kernel21:41
zachg5757posteed21:41
EriC^^stumpys: you can do that, type "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termview.me 9999"21:41
zachg5757should I run that command to mount windows?21:42
stumpysEriC^^: alright, will boot into ubuntu and run it21:42
silvianok try as suggested ntfs-3g /dev/sda4 /mnt/windows21:42
EriC^^zachg5757: type apt-cache policy ntfs-3g ntfsprogs | nc termview.me 999921:42
silvianyou have to specify sda4 so yeah21:42
silvianas root of course21:42
silviansee if you get a successful mount and if you can cd into /mnt/windows and ls to view the files21:43
zachg5757EriC^^ termview.me/tu3121:43
EriC^^zachg5757: you should be able to mount ntfs fine21:44
silvianyeah try mounting as i suggested zachg575721:44
zachg5757posted silvian21:44
zachg5757I'm getting an error21:44
silvianif you can't then we have an issue with the windows partition itself21:44
silvianok21:44
EriC^^zachg5757: try one last time "(sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt; dmesg | tail ) | nc termbin.com 9999"21:45
silvianyes try what Eric^^ suggested21:45
silvianlets see if we get a tail on that log21:46
stumpysEriC^^: done, http://termview.me/b5q9/21:46
EriC^^stumpys: type sudo efibootmgr -o 0000,0001,0017,0018,0019,001A,001B,001C21:46
zachg5757EriC^^ what was that command?21:47
zachg5757I think termbin.com/p9p6 has it21:47
EriC^^zachg5757: nah run that one too21:48
zachg5757Which one?21:48
silvianwas this what you got zachg5757 http://termbin.com/p9p621:48
zachg5757Yup21:48
EriC^^zachg5757: (sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt; dmesg | tail ) | nc termbin.com 999921:48
EriC^^that's what it gave you?21:48
zachg5757yup21:48
EriC^^oh ok21:49
EriC^^well that sounds great21:49
silvianwait can you paste your /etc/fstab file?21:49
silvianlooks like the error says you got some duplicate entries?21:49
EriC^^zachg5757: try "ls -l /mnt" do you see the windows files?21:49
stumpysEriC^^: done, http://termview.me/e02821:49
EriC^^stumpys: looks good ;)21:50
EriC^^windows should start instead of grub now21:50
zachg5757I have BootInfo and boot-sav21:50
stumpysEriC^^: cool, will try now!21:50
zachg5757posted silvian21:51
EriC^^zachg5757: those sound like boot-repair stuff21:51
zachg5757Not sure why I have a duplicate21:51
zachg5757I did run that EriC^^ earlier21:51
EriC^^zachg5757: what exactly is mounted right now? type "lsblk -f | nc termview.me 9999"21:51
zachg5757termview.me/4uwz/21:52
stumpysEriC^^: Dude, you are a friggin linux svant! Thx doesn't quite do it but... thx!!!! Now I don't have to worry about our work admins b*tching me out :)21:53
EriC^^stumpys: haha, awesome :)21:54
silvianwhat do these two entries refer to zachg5757?21:54
silvian#UUID=CCCA-2C5C /boot/efi vfat defaults 0 121:55
stumpysEriC^^: thx again, ciao!21:55
silvianUUID=B842-D846 /boot/efi vfat defaults 0 121:55
silvianone is commented out and one is not21:55
zachg5757I couldn't tell you silvian. Sorry. This was the way it was21:55
silviancan you run blkid zach575721:56
EriC^^zachg5757: try "sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt | nc termview.me 9999"21:56
EriC^^silvian: see the lsblk -f output, it has the uuid's21:56
EriC^^http://termview.me/4uwz/21:56
silviansee if they match what your drives are21:56
EriC^^zachg5757: really the sole purpose here is to see whether the filesystem is intact and if not you need to use windows tools to fix it21:57
zachg5757hm21:58
zachg5757blkid posted21:58
zachg5757I couldn't connect to termview.me 9999 EriC^^21:59
EriC^^zachg5757: try without the | nc part22:00
EriC^^just sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt22:00
zachg5757I have an error22:00
marcisbHow to set up ubuntu search also in google in inet22:00
marcisb?22:00
EriC^^zachg5757: same as before in the gist?22:00
marcisbFOr example if i write something in ubuntu search it also searches in google22:01
marcisb?22:01
zachg5757Yeah. I reposted it there. The I/O error22:01
silviancan you comment out this line by adding a # in front of UUID=B842-D846 /boot/efi vfat defaults 0 122:01
silvianthe last line zachg5757 in your /etc/fstab22:01
silviani think that is your duplicate22:02
lordcirthmarcisb, maybe this lens? https://github.com/ecsark/google-unity-lens22:02
silviansince you already have an entry further above for /boot/efi under /boot record22:02
zachg5757So what do you think commenting it out would do22:02
silviannot throw the duplicate error?22:02
silvianwe saw22:02
silviani still have hunch that your /etc/fstab file is broken somewhow...22:03
zachg5757Maybe. I mean I could try commenting it out. I think you might be right. I still don't know what os-prober does. Because maybe that modified my fstab file22:04
silvianperhaps and that's the only thing in the file that strikes me as a duplicate22:05
EriC^^zachg5757: silvian is right about fstab needing commenting out22:05
silvianremember this error we saw [  392.041029] systemd-fstab-generator[2437]: Failed to create mount unit file /run/systemd/generator/boot-efi.mount, as it already exists. Duplicate entry in /etc/fstab?22:05
EriC^^comment out UUID=B842-D846 /boot/efi vfat defaults 0 122:05
silvianyeah and give it a reboot afterwards22:06
EriC^^well not yet22:06
silvianhopefully we're getting somewhere here :)22:06
EriC^^try sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda422:06
unholymachineis there a way to enable non-free drivers in the live environment?22:07
zachg5757Ok guys. I'm going to comment out the last line22:07
unholymachinei tried going through the drivers menu in settings but it wont enable22:07
zachg5757rebooting now22:07
silviancrossing fingers we haven't broken everything now :P22:07
silviannah we should be fine we can always undo it via recovery again :P22:08
zachg5757Good start. I was able to boot into ubuntu after22:08
silvianoh that's always good :D22:08
zachg5757running sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda4 now22:09
silviancool22:09
zachg5757Posted22:10
marcisbHow to handle permissions more easy?22:10
lordcirthmarcisb, you need to be more specific.22:11
EriC^^zachg5757: are you sure /dev/sda4 is still the windows partition?22:11
marcisbFor example i need frequently make permissions chmod22:11
EriC^^try sudo parted -l | nc termview.me 999922:11
marcisbfor many folders22:11
zachg5757o my. It's now sdb4 again22:11
silvianomg this thing is insane lol zachg575722:12
silvianok try mounting sdb422:12
silvianor run sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb422:12
EriC^^zachg5757: try sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb422:12
zachg5757re posted the ntfsfix. Want me to mount it too? What was that command again?22:12
silvianmount /dev/sdb4 /mnt/windows22:12
EriC^^just use /mnt22:13
silvianmarcisb depends what you need to do? Like what sort of things do you need to set permissions for? when creating new users or files or when updating files and folders frequently which resets permissions back?22:13
EriC^^zachg5757: i think you need to boot a windows usb and run chkdsk /f22:14
silvianor just use /mnt if its not already used yes as EriC^^ suggested22:14
lordcirthmarcisb, chmod has the -R feature, (use with caution)22:14
lordcirthmarcisb, or you could make a bash alias for a specific chmod command22:15
zachg5757Posted it. If that mount doesn't glean any new info, I'll boot into the windows usb22:15
EriC^^zachg5757: try "dmesg | tail | nc termview.me 9999"22:16
silvianok i think we're running into trouble here and we're going around in circles.... i think we ought to be giving up and do what the program says and actually try to use windows chkdsk /f as EriC^^ suggested. Maybe the file system is broken afterall.22:16
zachg5757termview.me/2fwr/22:16
silvianno luck? You can't access files in /mnt no?22:17
EriC^^i hope ntfsfix didn't make it worse22:17
zachg5757There is no mounted windows, no22:17
EriC^^i've been saying to boot a windows usb since an hour22:18
silvianok windows bootable disk and chkdsk /f it is22:18
zachg5757At this point i don't mind losing my files. Most everything I have is online through github22:18
silvianlol yes...22:19
silvianok marcisb i have certain scripts if you want i can share with you that do folder and file permission resets and checks22:19
silvianthis is if the files get updated by git and the permissions are wrong etc22:20
silvianmaybe it might help with the stuff you need to do to use a similar approach?22:20
zachg5757alright repair my computer22:24
zachg5757running what again? ckdisk -f?22:24
silvianchkdsk /f22:25
zachg5757Got it22:25
zachg5757The type of the file system is NTFS.22:25
zachg5757Cannot lock current drive.22:25
silvianyes DOS is special it uses / instead of -22:25
zachg5757Windows cannot run disk checking on this volume because it is write protected.22:25
silvianoh god...22:25
silvianand you've selected the correct volume yes?22:26
EriC^^zachg5757: is it mounted right now somehow?22:26
EriC^^try "diskpart" and type "list vol"22:26
zachg5757O Idk how to check which volume I'm looking at22:26
silvianfdisk22:26
silvianon windows22:26
silvianshould show i believe22:26
silviansee what drive letter it gives you22:27
zachg5757It looks like volume 1 with ltr c is the drive I want to use22:27
silvianof course we can always do it the cave man way zachg5757 which is to open your PC case and literally unplug every drive except the SSD with windows on. You can't go wrong then :P22:27
zachg5757Ok got it22:28
zachg5757No need for cavemen here hahaa22:28
silvianok try i guess i can't remember the command chkdsk /f C:22:28
silvianmaybe?22:28
zachg5757It's unable to determine volume version and state22:30
silvianugh22:30
silvianbroken parittion is broken22:30
zachg5757same haha22:31
zachg5757I think I'm going to reinstall. Then just not use grub I guess22:31
silvianwell... two options now. 1. we use a hammer and we hit the SSD as hard as we can. 2. we try windows recovery or reinstall windows from USB stick on that drive.22:31
zachg5757222:31
silvianyou have selected option 2... do you wish to proceed? [Y/n]22:32
zachg5757Y22:32
silvianjust remember that you'll need to install grub again to access your ubuntu drive with both SSDs installed if you want to get back to ubuntu and its file system22:33
silvianyou can do that through an ubuntu live usb22:33
silvianafter you got windows working again22:33
silviangood luck dude... sorry this kinda sucked. weird issue :(22:34
zachg5757Grub has been screwing me up all the time. I might just choose my drive using my bios instead of grub22:35
zachg5757Thank you guys for your patience and help. It's a tough one for sure22:36
silvianno problem sorry we couldn't be of more help to ya. Hopefully nothing is wrong with the actual SSD itself. Definitely a weird one22:36
zachg5757No worries. It shouldn't be the ssd. I'm going to try to restore from the recovery partition first. But reinstalling might be the only way22:38
silvianyes do windows recovery first from your live CD/USB22:40
silvianusually the first thing i try and you will keep your data if its successful :)22:41
zachg5757Awesome! Thanks guys. I'm gonna hop out now. Thanks again!22:41
silvianno problem good luck to ya22:41
marcisbWHat mnt folder purpose ?22:44
marcisbWHat is?22:44
EriC^^marcisb: to mount stuff in it22:44
marcisbI can mount staff from flash drive?22:45
EriC^^marcisb: yeah22:45
marcisbHow? : )22:45
oerheksremovable media mounts in /media/22:45
oerheksbasicly22:46
EriC^^marcisb: the file manager doesn't show you anything to the left?22:46
marcisbShows 16GB volume my flash drive22:46
EriC^^marcisb: click on that22:46
marcisbok22:46
EriC^^it mounts it in /media/youruser22:47
marcisbok22:47
marcisbEriC^^, I m in media in it22:47
marcisbEriC^^, How i can create to mount it in mnt folder?22:49
EriC^^marcisb: click it again to unmount it22:50
marcisbok22:50
EriC^^marcisb: then type "sudo parted -l | nc termview.me 9999" in a terminal and paste the link it gives you here22:51
marcisbPaste at http://termview.me/ifap22:52
EriC^^marcisb: is the usb still plugged in?22:52
marcisbyes22:52
marcisbPaste at http://termview.me/ifap22:53
marcisbi plugged in again and22:53
marcisbPaste at http://termview.me/1fma22:53
EriC^^marcisb: type "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"22:54
marcisbEriC^^, ok22:56
tknpntfs mount question - i am trying to make a single directory of an ntfs mount available to a specific user. is there a way to allow uid 1001 to access the specific directory of the ntfs share without adding uid 1001 to the group id provided for the ntfs? is this something for bindfs or is there another way?22:56
* eelstrebor got the latest pluggable bluetooth driver - driver loads but still won't pair with my skullcandy headset/mic23:22
eelstreborpairs ok with 2 other BT devices though23:23
bazhangpulseaudio-module-bluetooth eelstrebor installed that yet23:29
pavlostknp: make that user belong to some obscure group (gid=yy) and mount the ntfs with gid=yy23:32
pavlostknp: in /etc/fstab    UUID=<xxxxx> /media/win ntfs rw,auto,umask=077,gid=yy    0   023:33
pavlostknp: untested ...23:33
eelstreborbazhang, yes23:40
eelstreborlooks like it's a bad headset - it won't work with cellphones or  even a windows pc23:41
eelstreborit did pair with my asus rog (ubuntu 16.04) but the mike audio is very low at the maximum audio setting23:43
fishcookerwhich is faster between rm and cat /dev/null ?23:43
buggaboosanchezI'm using gnome terminal (have for a long time). It's been a long time since I done so but didn't it used to be easy to give custom names to the tabs?  Last I remember there was a way through the menu wasn't there?23:46
buggaboosanchezI see information on the web how to do it using the command line, but is there a non command line way? (I thought it came up in a context menu or something but I don't see the option now).23:48
buggaboosanchezdid gnome terminal used to have a "set title" command somewhere?23:50
bazhanghttps://askubuntu.com/questions/860145/set-title-for-each-terminal-tab-in-gnome-terminal-using-a-bash-script buggaboosanchez23:54
buggaboosanchezWhy am I unable to execute normal git commands from a sub dir? This is way too cumbersome to deal with. Is there any way to fix it?23:55
buggaboosanchezsorry, wrong channel on the last on23:55
tknppavlos: thanks!23:55

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