| RAOF | What's the shiny new way to get gpg-agent handling ssh-agent duties and disabling gnome-keyring's ssh-agent? | 04:17 |
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| jbicha | RAOF: the second part, disabling gnome-keyring's ssh handling should be as simple as unchecking it in gnome-sesion-properties | 04:34 |
| jbicha | but it looks like gnome-session-properties doesn't know how to handle our "ubuntu:GNOME" session, it sees OnlyShowIn-GNOME … etc and doesn't show since it's not exactly GNOME | 04:35 |
| jbicha | gnome-session-properties is unique to Ubuntu; upstream dropped it years ago | 04:36 |
| jibel | morning | 05:26 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:32 |
| jibel | salut didrocks | 05:38 |
| didrocks | bon week-end jibel ? | 05:38 |
| jibel | didrocks, ça a été et toi? | 05:38 |
| didrocks | oui oui, très bien :) | 05:39 |
| duflu | Good morning Europe | 06:20 |
| duflu | Welcome to Eurovision | 06:20 |
| duflu | I mean, Monday | 06:20 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 06:21 |
| duflu | Hey didrocks... that font issue is very hard to see. But I made a screenshot in the end | 06:21 |
| duflu | Oh! | 06:23 |
| duflu | didrocks, run 'weston-info' and it reports 'subpixel_orientation: unknown', which is the same problem we had in Mir | 06:23 |
| duflu | Hence it will default to greyscale | 06:23 |
| duflu | The 'unknown' is coming from libdrm, which is coming from the kernel | 06:25 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:25 |
| duflu | Hi seb128 | 06:25 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, how are you? had a good w.e? | 06:25 |
| duflu | Yeah going OK. Weekend was too short to keep up with life in general. You? | 06:26 |
| didrocks | duflu: with the new theme (coming today), you will see it way more easily | 06:27 |
| duflu | Cool | 06:27 |
| duflu | I think | 06:28 |
| duflu | didrocks, does weston-info report unknown for you too? | 06:28 |
| duflu | seb128, Yeah going OK. Weekend was too short to keep up with life in general. You? | 06:28 |
| seb128 | w.e was good, nice weather, managed to catch up on sleep and relax | 06:28 |
| duflu | Perfect | 06:28 |
| didrocks | duflu: indeed, it does | 06:32 |
| didrocks | but only for my external monitor | 06:32 |
| didrocks | which doesn't display the panel | 06:32 |
| duflu | didrocks, yeah I suspect the font rendering code is identical between X and Wayland. Only the parameters (known subpixel order etc) are different | 06:32 |
| didrocks | the one displaying the panel has: | 06:32 |
| didrocks | subpixel_orientation: horizontal rgb, output_transform: normal, | 06:32 |
| duflu | didrocks, same - I have external monitors only here | 06:33 |
| duflu | I suspect either Xorg guesses HRGB, or the Xorg drivers are more capable at retrieving the subpixel order (from EDID?), or the Xorg drivers also just guess | 06:37 |
| duflu | Guessing HRGB would usually be correct | 06:38 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning duflu didrocks seb128 | 06:43 |
| duflu | Hi flexiondotorg | 06:45 |
| seb128 | hey flexiondotorg | 06:47 |
| Tribaal | hi all! Looks like I lost my gnome session login capability this morning (libmutter segfaults, AFAICT). Is that a known issue? How can I help? | 07:52 |
| Tribaal | dmesg has https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25463848/ | 07:53 |
| Tribaal | and syslog doesn't help much more (https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25463865/). I'm on 17.10, up-to-date as of this morning | 07:56 |
| didrocks | Tribaal: yeah, known issue, it's fixed in mutter master. jbicha will either do an update with .92 or a snapshot IIRC | 07:57 |
| Tribaal | didrocks: ok, thanks a lot. Then I guess I'll work on i3 this morning :p | 07:57 |
| Laney | ahoy | 08:03 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:04 |
| didrocks | how was your week-end? | 08:04 |
| Laney | hey didrocks!!!! | 08:08 |
| Laney | it was most enjoyable | 08:08 |
| Laney | went swimming in the river on saturday, and then yesterday an architecture tour by bike followed by climbing | 08:09 |
| Laney | you? | 08:09 |
| didrocks | sounds nice! We just went from some walks, which were nice :) | 08:13 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 08:22 |
| seb128 | didrocks, Tribaal, jbicha did that snapshot this w.e but if you get a new segfault today maybe it's a regression in the snapshot? | 08:22 |
| seb128 | Tribaal, what version of the lib do you have? | 08:22 |
| Tribaal | seb128: 3.25.91+20170902~ce515c5-1ubuntu1 (https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25463935/) | 08:24 |
| seb128 | so yeah it's the snapshot | 08:24 |
| seb128 | Tribaal, would be useful to report the bug using apport if you have a report in /var/crash | 08:25 |
| pitti | bonjour tout le monde ! /me retourne au travail après 3 semaines de vacances :) | 08:26 |
| seb128 | salut pitti, comment ça va ? tu as passé de bonnes vacances ? | 08:27 |
| pitti | seb128: oui, merci, c'était très bien ! | 08:29 |
| Tribaal | seb128: no report in /var/crash :/ | 08:29 |
| * Tribaal tries to re-login | 08:30 | |
| didrocks | seb128: are you sure it was a snapshot? I skimmed over the changelog quickly and didn't find a ref to it | 08:30 |
| didrocks | but didn't check the git hash | 08:30 |
| didrocks | hey pitti! Sounds like your trip was really nice :) | 08:30 |
| pitti | didrocks: indeed it was; we've seen a loooot, it was quite intense; I'm glad I wrote a diary and sorted/tagged the photos right away every day :) | 08:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks, changelog has " * New upstream git snapshot (LP: #1714330)" | 08:32 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1714330 in mutter (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in on_crtc_flipped() from g_closure_invoke() from invoke_flip_closure() from page_flip_handler() from drmHandleEvent()" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714330 | 08:32 |
| Tribaal | seb128: yeah, nothing in /var/crash | 08:33 |
| seb128 | weird | 08:33 |
| didrocks | seb128: ah, I was expecting to see an explicit line about it :) | 08:33 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, doesn't seems something you want to tackle post-holidays :) | 08:33 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it's one, but it's not in the top changelog entry since he did the snapshot to debian and then remerged/uploaded to ubuntu on top | 08:34 |
| Laney | hey seb128 | 08:35 |
| Laney | what's up | 08:35 |
| seb128 | it's monday! | 08:35 |
| seb128 | grey monday after a sunny w.e | 08:35 |
| Laney | you should be a poet | 08:36 |
| seb128 | :p | 08:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, I just looked at your photos, seems like a fun trip you had :-) | 08:37 |
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| seb128 | Trevinho, hey | 09:08 |
| seb128 | suspend on lid close is so annoying | 09:16 |
| seb128 | and hexchat reconnecting after resume is as well | 09:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, you might know that, what helper script do we use for missing codecs install? (or what binary is needed for that to work) | 09:20 |
| Laney | gstreamer-codec-install (gstreamer1.0-packagekit) | 09:22 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks, the reporter from bug #1711067 seems to have it missing | 09:23 |
| ubot5 | bug 1711067 in gstreamer1.0 (Ubuntu) "totem is unable to play .mp4. and some .avi, works fine with .webm. Same videos are played successfully by VLC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1711067 | 09:23 |
| Laney | that should be seeded | 09:23 |
| Laney | maybe I forgot to do it | 09:23 |
| seb128 | it's not in the manifest | 09:24 |
| Laney | ok, let me add it | 09:24 |
| seb128 | thanks | 09:24 |
| Laney | it'll need promoting please | 09:24 |
| seb128 | sure | 09:24 |
| seb128 | Laney, promoted | 09:25 |
| duflu | seb128, BTW totem/gstreamer's container support is poor even when it is installed. I strongly recommend native mpv instead, or native ffmpeg players like mplayer, vlc etc | 09:25 |
| Laney | thanks! | 09:25 |
| seb128 | duflu, what do you mean "container"? | 09:26 |
| duflu | seb128, those file extensions | 09:26 |
| seb128 | gstreamer should handle those no? | 09:26 |
| duflu | seb128, should yes, but it's very buggy | 09:26 |
| seb128 | :-/ | 09:26 |
| duflu | best to use ffmpeg-based apps instead | 09:26 |
| seb128 | well we can't default to ffmpeg bases player for codec/patent reasons | 09:27 |
| duflu | I know | 09:27 |
| duflu | I know so well :/ | 09:27 |
| seb128 | so it's still worth trying to make the totem experience as good as we can | 09:27 |
| seb128 | but yeah thanks for pointing out that other players do a better job :-) | 09:27 |
| duflu | seb128, yeah I am. But wonder how many more weeks I should devote to totem | 09:27 |
| seb128 | what else would you work on if you stopped focussing on totem? | 09:28 |
| duflu | seb128, medium term I would look into libinput | 09:29 |
| seb128 | duflu, what totem issues do you work on atm? the clutter refreshing the UI elements when it shouldn't? | 09:30 |
| duflu | seb128, yeah just that at the moment, but other apps like gnome-apps benefit from the same fixes. I'll write it up in the report tomorrow | 09:30 |
| duflu | like gnome-maps | 09:30 |
| seb128 | yeah, I saw that | 09:31 |
| seb128 | well anyway feel free to move to improve libinput if you think it would be more beneficial overall | 09:31 |
| seb128 | totem seems to be in a good enough shape after all the work you put this cycle | 09:31 |
| duflu | seb128, interestingly it seems clutter-gtk is better at embeded GL than the GTK GL widget | 09:31 |
| seb128 | they are fixing things for gtk4 | 09:32 |
| duflu | Newer isn't always better. The issue I'm working on now is actually a regression introduced in 2009 | 09:33 |
| duflu | Just nobody noticed for a while | 09:33 |
| seb128 | right, I saw the bug comments | 09:33 |
| seb128 | we did stay away from clutter in Ubuntu default install for a while | 09:34 |
| duflu | seb128, anyway, I hope to come up with multiple apps improved and new knowledge to fix more apps/shell in future | 09:34 |
| seb128 | but yeah, shame that nobody noticed at the time it was added | 09:34 |
| duflu | The learning is valuable | 09:34 |
| seb128 | that's the right spirit :-) | 09:34 |
| duflu | seb128, in _theory_ totem could get the same file support as ffmpeg if we omitted all software plugins other than gstreamer-libav. That should replace them all with ffmpeg | 09:38 |
| seb128 | right | 09:38 |
| seb128 | andyrock, hey, I think bug #1714489 is for you | 09:39 |
| ubot5 | bug 1714489 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Can't translate singular" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714489 | 09:39 |
| Laney | is it intentional that you can't disable the default-enabled extensions? | 09:40 |
| duflu | seb128, if Marco comes on later, or someone else, it's worth noting there's still a lingering regression from the Gnome 3.25 update: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1714295 | 09:40 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1714295 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "HiDPI scaling broken in Gnome 3.25" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:40 |
| andyrock | seb128: I'll take a look | 09:40 |
| seb128 | andyrock, thanks | 09:41 |
| seb128 | duflu, jbicha knows about the issue I think | 09:41 |
| duflu | Cool. But of course he does | 09:41 |
| andyrock | seb128: sorry about that. I actually read somewhere in the gettext docs that this was allowed | 09:44 |
| andyrock | maybe it's allowed on the python-side but not on lp | 09:44 |
| seb128 | could be | 09:45 |
| andyrock | seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/update-manager/fix-1714489/+merge/330150 | 09:52 |
| seb128 | andyrock, it might be worth reporting a bug against launchpad still | 09:53 |
| andyrock | let me check if update-notifier presents the same problem | 09:54 |
| andyrock | mmm nope | 09:55 |
| andyrock | https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/update-notifier/ngettext-livepatch/+merge/329982 | 09:56 |
| andyrock | seb128: I'm wondering if this one is going to create the same problem | 09:56 |
| andyrock | better ask #ubuntu-translators | 09:57 |
| seb128 | andyrock, or #launchpad | 10:00 |
| duflu | seb128, I missed that part of history - what was wrong with clutter in the past? | 10:00 |
| duflu | Just performance? | 10:00 |
| seb128 | yeah, it was buggy and not performant for a long time | 10:01 |
| duflu | Well, I'm not seeing proof that's totally resolved but will get to the bottom of it :) | 10:01 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:02 |
| seb128 | andyrock, in that case you don't have a number though so the syntax seems to make sense to me | 10:02 |
| duflu | Interesting they use frame clocks similar to my final work on Mir | 10:03 |
| andyrock | seb128: mmm not sure lp/gettext is smart enough to parse the string and realize if there is a number or not | 10:04 |
| seb128 | andyrock, well ngettext should have singular/plural strings | 10:09 |
| seb128 | " | 10:10 |
| seb128 | It is also possible to use this function when the strings don’t contain a cardinal number: | 10:10 |
| seb128 | puts (ngettext ("Delete the selected file?", | 10:10 |
| seb128 | "Delete the selected files?", | 10:10 |
| seb128 | n)); | 10:10 |
| seb128 | In this case the number n is only used to choose the plural form. " | 10:10 |
| seb128 | but yeah unsure if you can use the argument for only one of the two variants | 10:10 |
| andyrock | before merging the suggested fix let me experiment a little bit | 10:11 |
| andyrock | seb128: also becuase the fix is wrong | 10:14 |
| seb128 | ah? | 10:16 |
| seb128 | hum | 10:24 |
| seb128 | did that maintenance on the mailing lists made @-desktop get the moderation emails sent to the list? | 10:25 |
| duflu | OK, dinner time. If someone could push bug 1709166 along that would be great :) | 10:25 |
| ubot5 | bug 1709166 in ubuntu-restricted-addons (Ubuntu) "Refresh Restricted Addons" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1709166 | 10:25 |
| seb128 | duflu, enjoy | 10:26 |
| seb128 | I'm going to try to have a look to that one | 10:26 |
| seb128 | I was sort of hopping somebody else would do some sponsoring but that doesn't seem to happen atm | 10:27 |
| jbicha | good morning | 10:40 |
| amano | jbicha, filed the gnome-games ffe as requested. And did some bubblewrap crusading. | 10:52 |
| k_alam | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/1714876 | 10:52 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1714876 in gdm (Ubuntu) "GDM doesn't show xorg session at login (Artful)" [Undecided,New] | 10:52 |
| jbicha | the Release Team isn't the blocker for bubblewrap, it's the Security Team | 10:52 |
| jbicha | but as of today gnome-desktop doesn't work with bublewrap, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/785963 ( I haven't tried the suggested patch there yet ) | 10:53 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 785963 in Thumbnail "Thumbnails aren't being generated with gnome-desktop 3.25.90" [Normal,Needinfo] | 10:53 |
| jbicha | seb128: I think this diff isn't worth keeping any more: https://patches.ubuntu.com/libg/libgnome/libgnome_2.32.1-5ubuntu1.patch | 10:57 |
| amano | (always heartwarming to read hadess' subtle comments on bug trackers) | 10:58 |
| seb128 | jbicha, or looking at it the other way it's not important enough that it needs to be changed, that delta can stay there in state | 10:59 |
| jbicha | it's less work to sync than to merge and it's unclear to me that the Ubuntu diff is even right or that we even care that much about libgnome now | 11:01 |
| seb128 | it's even less work to not sync, merge or change it since it's deprecated and doesn't need any work :-) | 11:02 |
| seb128 | you should better focus on trying to resolve those gnome-shell 3.25 update issues that spend efforts on past libs... | 11:03 |
| seb128 | but anyway, if you want to sync it and keep an eye for potential fallout that's fine with me | 11:03 |
| jbicha | seb128: it ftbfs | 11:11 |
| jbicha | I did the mutter git snapshot as requested although it might need libgudev to be hinted through artful-proposed to fix the bug | 11:12 |
| seb128 | thanks for that | 11:12 |
| seb128 | need to drop offline for a bit for testing and lunch, bbl | 11:13 |
| jbicha | s390x is holding up artful migrations | 11:13 |
| seb128 | :-/ | 11:13 |
| Laney | not any more | 11:13 |
| seb128 | #debian-gnome backlog suggests the update still has issues | 11:13 |
| seb128 | as does the log from here earlier | 11:13 |
| seb128 | Tribaal couldn't log in | 11:14 |
| seb128 | brb | 11:14 |
| Tribaal | Yeah, libmutter segfaults here | 11:14 |
| Tribaal | (and no /var/crash entry unfortunately) | 11:15 |
| Trevinho | seb128: hey seb... Sorry I had to leave my car to the repair shop. And it took more than expected 😑 | 11:27 |
| Trevinho | Other than that they will not fix it soon... | 11:28 |
| jbicha | I've delayed adding e-d-s's installed-tests to its autopkgtest because it's flaky but it doesn't seem too bad in Debian so let's see | 12:43 |
| jbicha | https://ci.debian.net/packages/e/evolution-data-server/unstable/amd64/ | 12:43 |
| amano | jbicha, hadess just commited a thumbnailing fix to gnome-desktop upstream | 13:05 |
| seb128 | amano, that doesn't change the fact that the new component needs security review/mir which is not likely to be this cycle | 13:06 |
| amano | :/ | 13:07 |
| jbicha | amano: don't be too sad, we still have new libseccomp hardening. (But those commits don't fix the Debian/Ubuntu bubblewrap issue) | 13:10 |
| andyrock | seb128: I asked on #launchpad | 13:30 |
| andyrock | they said that that the change with update-notifier should work | 13:30 |
| andyrock | if there will be the same problems with the translations | 13:31 |
| andyrock | it's launchpad fault | 13:31 |
| seb128 | andyrock, if it's launchpad fault do they plan to fix it? | 13:32 |
| andyrock | cjwatson seb128 I think so, otherwise I'll just change it to "1 livepa... | 13:35 |
| seb128 | k | 13:35 |
| andyrock | should I go with "1..." | 13:35 |
| andyrock | ? | 13:35 |
| seb128 | what is 1? what you currently have? | 13:36 |
| andyrock | A Livepatch update | 13:37 |
| andyrock | in other places we have "1 livepatch update" | 13:37 |
| seb128 | sorry I don't follow | 13:37 |
| seb128 | 1 is A? | 13:38 |
| seb128 | can you pastebin what you suggest using? | 13:38 |
| seb128 | that's probably easier :-) | 13:38 |
| andyrock | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rqjxEK3e/ | 13:38 |
| andyrock | seb128: ^^^ | 13:43 |
| seb128 | andyrock, right, that one should work for sure | 13:43 |
| andyrock | kk I'll update the branch right now | 13:43 |
| seb128 | thanks | 13:43 |
| andyrock | seb128: I've been also working on dash-to-dock notification badges https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wMWPc5Vo/badge_small.png https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WfSztWrQ/badge_normal.png https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/IDabQktv/badge_big.png | 13:50 |
| seb128 | andyrock, nice! is that just visuals or is that connected to some backend already? | 13:51 |
| andyrock | it's in css the graphic so should be themable (colors, shape, etc.) | 13:51 |
| andyrock | i'm wokring on the backend | 13:51 |
| seb128 | great | 13:52 |
| andyrock | using UnityAPI Launcher | 13:52 |
| seb128 | is that what Trevinho recommended? | 13:52 |
| andyrock | seems like it became "the standard" | 13:52 |
| andyrock | it's what we were using | 13:52 |
| seb128 | I don't remember now, he said there was a launcher one which was not unity specific? | 13:52 |
| seb128 | great | 13:52 |
| andyrock | plank is using the same | 13:52 |
| seb128 | just a name change iirc right? | 13:52 |
| andyrock | we can keep the name | 13:53 |
| andyrock | if we don't want to update all the application using | 13:53 |
| andyrock | or we can support multiple names | 13:53 |
| andyrock | I would suggest to at least support the old name | 13:53 |
| andyrock | looks like plasma supports the API too | 14:00 |
| andyrock | cairo-dock | 14:00 |
| andyrock | etc. | 14:00 |
| seb128 | great | 14:00 |
| apw | didrocks, hey ... it is right that the pre-enabled ubuntu-dock/indicator extensions do not appear as enabled in gnome-tweak, and cannot be switched off ? | 14:10 |
| amano | I think that's the intended behaviour. Just apt purge them | 14:14 |
| andyrock | it looks buggy | 14:15 |
| andyrock | I guess it's gnome-tweaks-tool that fails to deal with them | 14:16 |
| jbicha | yes, GNOME Tweaks can't handle GNOME Shell mode extensions but we think that may be more of a GNOME Shell bug | 14:18 |
| jbicha | also, I don't think GNOME Shell supports disabling mode-enabled extensions | 14:19 |
| tjaalton | hum, after upgrade gdm runs X and logins fail | 14:27 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, what gdm version do you have? | 14:28 |
| jbicha | tjaalton: when was the last time you had restarted after upgrade? is this your first time with gnome-shell 3.25.91? | 14:28 |
| tjaalton | 3.25.90.1-0u2 | 14:28 |
| tjaalton | been a while, maybe a week or more | 14:28 |
| jbicha | does the systemd journal give you interesting errors? | 14:29 |
| tjaalton | not that I can see | 14:30 |
| tjaalton | ah, nevermind | 14:33 |
| tjaalton | nope, it's still failing for my user, gnome-shell segfaults | 14:38 |
| tjaalton | gdm is fine now | 14:38 |
| jbicha | can you chck the journal again? | 14:45 |
| jbicha | for instance I had https://bugzilla.gnome.org/786660 but apparently it's rare since I haven't heard any one else mention it | 14:46 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 786660 in general "3.25.91: Unable to log in: invalid monitor configuration, Logical monitors not adjecent" [Critical,New] | 14:46 |
| tjaalton | segfault in libmutter | 14:52 |
| tjaalton | _cogl_onscreen_free assertion fail | 14:55 |
| tjaalton | huh, and now it works | 14:58 |
| tjaalton | after a reboot' | 14:58 |
| tjaalton | go figure | 14:58 |
| jbicha | seb128: could you look over LP: #1714821 ? | 15:08 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1714821 in gnome-user-share (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync gnome-user-share 3.18.3-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714821 | 15:08 |
| seb128 | I saw it earlier | 15:08 |
| seb128 | what sort of input do you want? | 15:08 |
| seb128 | I'm unsure if we wanted it for bluetooth only | 15:09 |
| seb128 | iirc it does local webdav sharing and that can be enabled from the default install (it prompts to install the packages needed ondemand)? | 15:09 |
| jbicha | it only has 1 feature left: webdav but historically we didn't install the apache binaries for that feature to even work | 15:09 |
| seb128 | but we had the ui there | 15:09 |
| seb128 | and clicking the box would prompt to install the needed packages | 15:10 |
| jbicha | nobody ever added support for it to install those packages on demand | 15:10 |
| seb128 | unsure how useful that is though | 15:10 |
| seb128 | ah | 15:10 |
| seb128 | so it was indicated as a label? | 15:10 |
| jbicha | anyway, gnome-user-share doesn't provide a gui any more any way, the gui is now in gnome-control-center | 15:10 |
| seb128 | I think I remember the dialog told you what was needed | 15:10 |
| seb128 | k | 15:10 |
| seb128 | and is the gcc gui hidden if the backend is missing? | 15:11 |
| seb128 | in any case it seems like we should sync the new g-u-s and makes g-c-c install that package when somebody tries to enable the feature | 15:11 |
| seb128 | so I think syncing is fine | 15:11 |
| seb128 | if the release team ack the ffe | 15:12 |
| jbicha | gcc hides the gui if gnome-user-share isn't installed; it's not smart enough yet to know that it still needs those missing dependencies | 15:12 |
| jbicha | by default, the Sharing panel will be pretty empty, just "Computer Name" and "Screen Sharing" (and screen sharing won't work with wayland!) | 15:13 |
| jbicha | if you install openssh-server, you'll get a Remote Login option; if you install gnome-user-share, you get File Sharing, and I think rygel adds Media Sharing | 15:15 |
| seb128 | we can look at doing better there next cycle | 15:16 |
| seb128 | but it's pretty minor so nothing to worry about for now imho | 15:16 |
| jbicha | yeah it's not a problem, we have reasons for not installing all of that by default | 15:17 |
| seb128 | jibel, those statements conflict no? | 16:31 |
| seb128 | "I mean, if, after boot, I select wayland, then on next logins, the wayland session always starts whether I select X or Wayland." | 16:31 |
| seb128 | and | 16:31 |
| seb128 | "1. Boot your system | 16:31 |
| seb128 | 2. Select Xorg | 16:31 |
| seb128 | -> Xorg session starts | 16:31 |
| seb128 | 3. Logout and select Wayland | 16:31 |
| seb128 | -> Wayland session starts" | 16:31 |
| seb128 | 16:31 | |
| seb128 | jibel, in the 3 steps description your next login is different from your first one | 16:32 |
| seb128 | (the bug description states that it's the same when reversing xorg/wayland order, for those reading only IRC) | 16:32 |
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