[00:00] Good afternoon, I'm looking for some more info on the gitolite3 package. The existing ubuntu gitolite docs have alot of configuration steps that clearly the gitolite3 install does automatically. I'm not sure what to donext. [00:02] bazhang: my computer froze up and I had to restart. Can you please paste the link again? [00:02] buggaboosanchez: 01:54 bazhang : https://askubuntu.com/questions/860145/set-title-for-each-terminal-tab-in-gnome-terminal-using-a-bash-script buggaboosanchez [00:03] https://askubuntu.com/questions/853140/how-do-i-configure-gitolite3-to-use-the-git-account-on-ubuntu-lts-16 puff [00:03] minimec: Yeah, I have that page open already... not much there. [00:05] minimec: Thanks. [00:07] minimec: but that is to do it on the command line. Is there a menu item ( because the last time I did it - a few years ago - it seem to me there was _ [00:10] Hi, does anyone knows if it's possible to create a script that determines whether the colors on screen are dark or light in order to inverse colors if it is light? [00:11] n1amr, on the whole display? [00:11] lordcirth: yes [00:11] n1amr, this might be useful: https://github.com/adrieng/xrandr-nightmode [00:12] buggaboosanchez: I simply use a 2nd terminal program for this. In my case mate-terminal. As example... 'mate-terminal --profile=Irssi --title="Irssi IRC Client" -e irssi &' [00:13] buggaboosanchez: This would be the command I use as a .desktop launcher. [00:25] lordcirth: I get a 'undefined refernce to xcb_{ALMOST EVERYTHIN}' when I compile it. I can't find a solution to this error. Did you have this before? === mkv is now known as m4v [00:28] n1amr, I have never used this, I just searched for 'xrandr invert dark' === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [00:36] No problem, that was not exactly what I was searching for. I wanted something to analyze the screen colors only === Schnabeltierchen is now known as Guest81997 [00:54] I'm having trouble figuring out how to use Xephyr or xinit. I get a mouse that's just an X and no real display. [00:54] How do I do this right? === Amm0n| is now known as Amm0n [01:05] Glamdesk, what arguments are you running it with? [01:06] Xephyr :1 -ac -screen 1280x800x8 & (linebreak) DISPLAY=:1 xterm , as per https://wiki.winehq.org/256_Color_Mode [01:07] Or the xinit instructions below it. [01:07] lordcirth [01:07] Glamdesk, ok, and xterm doesn't show up? [01:08] I guess not, if the symptoms I described mean that. [01:08] Certainly I don't get a usable interface. [01:08] Glamdesk, is it just a black window with the mouse being an X? nothing else? [01:08] Yes. [01:09] Hrm. No, not quite true of the Xephyr. You also get a text terminal. [01:09] Glamdesk, well, that's the point of the command. xterm is a basic terminal emulator [01:09] Darn. I was hoping for a proper GUI. [01:10] Glamdesk, with what in it? Aren't you just trying to run an application in wine? [01:10] Yessss, but, uh... it's kind of a uniquely bad fit. [01:10] Either substitute xterm with your wine command, or run the wine command in the xterm. [01:11] From appdb.winehq.org: The problem most people have encountered that prevents them from starting the game is the "unable to create a surface" error during startup. This is an error that occurs both in Wine and native windows, and is a result of the game being unable to run in a 16/24 bit display environment. Configuring your display to run with 8-bit color depth (256 colors) should allow the game to start normally. [01:11] Will do. [01:11] I'll give that a shot right now, see what happens. [01:13] Holy crap, that's the ugliest thing I've ever seen. [01:14] It looks kinda like the time I, out of blatant morbid curiousity, tried to run OpenTyrian from the terminal and got a display entirely made of seemingly arbitrary text symbols in the right colors and orientations. [01:14] Technically it works. I hear the sounds. [01:16] So, I need a window manager. ^_^ [01:16] Glamdesk, I'd suggest Openbox [01:17] So if I'm already using lubuntu, how would I go about using Openbox from that term? [01:17] Glamdesk, oh, well LXDE is fine too [01:17] Any light one will do well [01:17] Heh. Same question, really. [01:18] Glamdesk, just tack on '; startlxde &' I think, [01:19] * Glamdesk frowns. [01:19] I'll be right back, gonna start fresh. [01:19] Someone's butthurt. [01:23] Jim121, no, and that's not helpful === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [01:33] $ cat /dev/null > *.mkv the output is bash: *.mkv: ambiguous redirect [01:33] how to nullified the files i've tried to find exec but doesn't work [01:38] for file in *.mkv; do : > "$file"; done [01:39] Sorry, started working on my shoulders and suddenly all my computer woes seemed so far away. [01:46] awk '{curl -s "http://post.site.com/post.php?site="$0"> /dev/null"}' ip.txt what is problem in command? [01:52] Al3xG0: ... what are you exoecting that to do? why is awk involved at all? [01:58] whiskey tango foxtrot! === Dragonslicer is now known as Dragnslcr === deathonater is now known as Smeef [03:13] Hi. I tried burning an ubuntu iso with rufus to a usb drive to install on my x205t. i chose the usb drive at boot menu and it just restarts. help [03:17] nm, fixed. [03:38] Okay, silly question. I'm running lubuntu 16.04, at least I have every reason to think I am, and it's saying I don't have startlxde because I don't have lxde-common. Is that reasonable? [03:41] I'd ask in #lubuntu, but it's been quiet there for an hour, so I figured I'd ask here. [03:44] Glamdesk: really hard question to answer [03:44] I thought lubuntu was called lubuntu *because* it uses lxde, though. [03:44] well yes [03:45] Hrm. Can you explain this like I'm 5? [03:46] ubuntu uses unity (currently), kubuntu uses kde, xubuntu uses xfce, lubuntu uses lxde, ubuntu-gnome uses gnome [03:47] * Glamdesk nods. [03:47] More answer is inbound, I assume. [03:48] nope [03:48] Oh. Okay. [03:48] not sure what you're wanting [03:48] Oh. So, if I'm running lubuntu, like, I downloaded the lubuntu disk, burned it, installed it, etc., I should have lxde-common and the startlxde command, right? [03:49] unknown [03:49] Fair enough. [03:51] Uh. Right. Remind me, uh, not to do that again. [03:58] I'm using linux on the desktop for the first time in many, many years. I'm using ubuntu. Upgraded it to the 17.10 devel branch. I'm really liking gnome3. [04:10] hello all. i am trying to install a new theme called mobo and i extracted the files to .themes folder too but i don't the see the theme in tweak-tool app. [04:10] am i missing something ? [04:10] https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1180089/ [04:11] this is the theme that i downloaded and trying to install. [04:11] can anyone please look into the file and check if the theme is working at all in 16.04 ? [04:14] does this channel have public logs? [04:14] !logs [04:14] Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ [04:32] is Shia LaBeouf in here??? [04:32] i must get in contact with Shia LaBeouf!!!!!!!! [04:32] i need help from Shia LaBeouf! [04:32] because he is the world's most undivisive man! [04:33] i need his help to undivide #concatenative from its Father, Slava Pestov, the Abandoner!!! === rkta_ is now known as rkta === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [05:43] What is purpose of var folder in ubuntu [05:43] ? [05:45] marcisb, that's where the OS writes data that is specific to itself === zesnitch is now known as zasnitch [05:55] How i can fix chrome flash bug it loses connections in websites where flash [05:55] Peridiocally [06:50] hi all, https://docs.ovh.com/au/en/cloud/dedicated/network-ipaliasing/#requirements which of these guides do I follow for Ubuntu 16? [06:59] hey [07:00] anyone know how i can store aliases in a file other than .bashrc? [07:00] for example, i have a script folder, and in .bashrc i do a for loop through the folder to source each of my .sh scripts [07:00] i wonder, how does muon updater (and ubuntu in general) tell whether available updates are normal updates or security updates? [07:00] i'm looking to do something similar with aliases as i like to store stuff like that in separate files [07:01] stranglerfish you already have a solution then :) [07:01] i guess just use .sh instead of an alias? [07:01] sorry, i've slacked on computer stuff for a while so i'm a bit derpy [07:02] i'm trying to get over my anxiety / imposter syndrome by getting back into it, just reinstalled ubuntu and i'm working from scratch lol [07:02] you could put your aliases into separate files into that script folder [07:02] would they be stored as .sh as well? [07:02] extensions dont matter [07:02] except for stubborn programs, mostly on windows :) [07:03] could you clarify a bit? like say i just want to add an alias to cd to a commonly used directory [07:03] and i have ~/Documents/scripts/*.sh [07:03] and i want to add aliases to that folder as separate files [07:03] how do i make my .bashrc find the aliases as well? [07:03] stranglerfish ok you said you have a for loop that sources ~/Documents/scripts/*.sh right? [07:03] stranglerfish: ~/.bash_aliases is sourced by the default .bashrc, iirc [07:04] stranglerfish so you just put the aliases in files that match ~/Documents/scripts/*.sh [07:04] like ~/Documents/scripts/cd-to-commonly-used-directory-alias.sh [07:04] TomyWork: you can tell if the updates are security updates because they come from the -security repo [07:04] ah ok [07:05] yeah i guess i wasn't fully understanding how source worked, i got that solution off SO a while back [07:05] ducasse ah, what happens if they get superseded by a regular update? [07:05] lemme try that out now [07:06] TomyWork: the older security patch is still there, of course - patches are cumulative [07:06] the files don't need any privileges right? [07:06] hi all, https://docs.ovh.com/au/en/cloud/dedicated/network-ipaliasing/#requirements which of these guides do I follow for Ubuntu 16? [07:06] ducasse i mean, will that cause muon to no longer flag the package as securityupdatable? [07:08] TomyWork: i'm not sure i understand you. if an update is a security update, it is in the -security repo. if something else (non-security) is fixed later, that will come through the -updates repo [07:13] sorry had a call... [07:13] ducasse an example: on monday, a security patch 1.2.3 gets released to the -security repo. on tuesday, a regular update 1.2.4 gets released to the -updates repo. what do i see if i havent booted all week and refresh muon on wednesday? [07:14] s/booted/used the machine/ [07:14] you see 1.2.4 if both repos are enabled [07:15] and will muon show the green icon (only non-security updates available) or the red icon (security updates available) [07:15] (assuming no other package had an update) [07:16] i don't know muon, but that will register as a normal update. the security fix is still included in 1.2.4, though. [07:17] so to recap, if muon (or, let's say, the default motd, which also shows available updates) says "no security updates available", there could still be security updates available? [07:18] https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/xscreenshot_02.png.pagespeed.gp+jp+jw+pj+ws+js+rj+rp+rw+ri+cp+md.ic.NRRm_ATz-X.png <--- that is the motd i mean [07:18] in this specific scenario, there might still be security fixes to the code you're currently running, yes. [07:19] ducasse hmm, do you see a problem with that? :) [07:19] no, as it would be exceedingly rare. [07:21] i really hope it's not done the way you describe [07:21] apt will still _see_ both versions, though [07:22] yes [07:22] and hopefully whatever does the determination will also check if the latest -security version is higher than the currently installed version [07:24] that would be up to whatever does the check, but afaik in most cases you will only be notified of the latest version. [07:25] does anyone else find they're most productive past midnight? [07:26] stranglerfish: I do yes. [07:26] this is becoming a serious issue for me, i know part of it is my mood disorder but still [07:26] stranglerfish: part of it for me is that everyone is sleeping, its silent and there is little to distract me irl away from being productive. [07:27] yeah i get that, though i usually have headphones on anyway but that's how it used to be for me when i lived at home [07:27] so it's probably just conditioning at this point [07:40] my ubuntu 16.04.3 unity desktop this morning has light grey window bars and a light grey top bar - but the active theme Ambiance used to have black window decorations and top bar. Any idea what happened here? [07:41] thermoman: a relog did not fix it? [07:42] didn't do it yet - but coworkers with same machines report same behaviour. just crawled unattended-upgrades.log but nothing suspicious there [07:42] Heya all :) [07:43] brainwash: you're the man! I did change theme and then changed it back to Ambiance - nothing changed. but after relogin the black bars are back [07:43] thanks! [07:43] thermoman: still odd [07:43] maybe a new bug [07:44] especially since it happened on several machines [07:46] I'm trying to lock down desktop users from changing settings...upon searching I came across recommendations for Pessulus but it's not available for 16.04 - Is there a GUI alternative please? [07:46] any good programs or options in ubuntu to split gui screens similar to terminator for terminal? [07:47] loppy2: split how? like a tiling wm, you mean? [07:48] i guess tiling could work [07:48] how you do that [07:48] if you seen terminator kind of like that [07:48] install a tiling wm [07:48] i3, awesome, bspwm, herbsluftwm... [07:49] if you just want to do this with terminals, just maximize a terminator window [07:49] (or any other terminal and tmux) [07:49] well i have terminator ..this is for guis [07:51] if you use KDE Plasma there's this script for tiling https://github.com/faho/kwin-tiling [07:51] at least some other de's also have (limited) tiling options [07:52] Yeah Plasma wont be as good for tiling as a pure tiling WM [07:52] But at least it's possible! [07:52] s/plasma/kwin [07:55] gnome has an extension called shellshape, iirc, the xfce wm can tile left/right half by default, etc [08:08] Any alternatives for Pessulus for Gnome 3? [08:10] what about notepadqq === sammyg is now known as hakra === stranglerfish is now known as stranglerfish|so [08:31] please I need help to help a friend manually download wireless drivers. what command should i use to see his wireless card? thanks [08:31] hosas: sudo lshw -C network [08:32] lotuspsychje: that didn't come up with wireless info only ethernet [08:32] any command? [08:34] hosas: do you know wich card chipset is inside? [08:35] hosas: see what 'rfkill list' says [08:36] lotuspsychje: he's at why i'm in school [08:37] maybe he's typing it wrong [08:37] let me tell him to try it again [08:38] lotuspsychje: only ethernet [08:39] :-( [08:40] hosas: lspci -nn [08:41] hosas: you sure there's a wifi card inside yes? [08:41] lotuspsychje: i know that command didn't help [08:41] he can connect on windows [08:41] he just dual booted [08:41] hahaha [08:42] so it has to be there [08:42] hosas: some chipsets of wifi have a weird windows active in bios setting, maybe check bios too? [08:42] I'm using Dash to Dock with Gnome, does anyone know if it's possible to un-group the applications so they show as multiple icons/titles on the panel? [08:42] hosas: which release is this? [08:45] ducasse: it's not my system i have to physical access to it [08:45] it belongs to a friend at home [08:46] hosas: then ask him [08:47] hosas: lsb_release -d [08:47] ducasse: ubuntu 16.04 [08:51] hosas: see if 'rfkill list' can see a blocked wifi [08:51] ok [09:00] When opening an application for the terminal e.g. pycharm with charm, and then I exit the terminal window, it shutdowns pycharm application. How am I suppose to use "charm" to open programs? [09:01] nocco: try 'nohup' in front [09:02] like "nohup charm ." [09:02] doesnt seem to work [09:02] put an & at the end [09:03] visual studio code also has a short command and that seems to work. Could I somehow "fix" charm instead [09:04] with an & it did work. But you would prefer if I could do this without nohup and & -sign [09:05] But I would * [09:05] this is how things work === dreamon_ is now known as dreamon [09:06] alright :( [09:12] <__martin__> greetings folks; any idea why the "Display Settings" gui ignores any changes made except turning on/off night light mode? e.g. swapping primary/secondary screen, mirroring, shutting down one of them.. [09:12] __martin__: what gpu [09:13] <__martin__> Ben64: 330m gt (rebranded 260m) [09:13] optimus? dual gpu? like intel/nvidia [09:13] <__martin__> it did on propr. nvidia at ubuntu artful since two days ago and at fresh budgie install with nouveau as of now [09:14] <__martin__> just this one dedicated, no igpu present [09:14] are you on 17.10? [09:14] <__martin__> yes [09:14] then support is in #ubuntu+1 until release [09:14] <__martin__> I did try to post in +1 channel, without response [09:15] when? [09:16] <__martin__> yesterday or even day before; all I could find was this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/389785/dual-monitor-confusion-in-ubuntu-gnome-17-10 [09:17] weekend is very quiet there (and here), try again today [09:17] <__martin__> thanks [09:38] (How) Can I add an 6-in-4 tunnel to Network Manager (using nmcli)? (How) Can I make the said 6-in-4 tunnel connect when a specific conenction is connected first? (x-post #linux) [09:43] Any alternatives for Pessulus for Gnome 3 please? [09:47] Lachezar: would this help you. https://www.sixxs.net/faq/connectivity/?faq=ossetup [09:56] Simonious: TYVM, I have already set the tunnel in /etc/network/interfaces.d, but I'm on a laptop, and the ifup must come *after* the _parent_ connection has been connected. [10:41] ehy [10:41] anybody here have experience with MAAS? [10:43] Don't ask to ask - Just ask your actual question (giving as much detail as possible), and wait. You may need to be patient. [10:43] @rory ok then https://askubuntu.com/questions/952596/maas-forces-wrong-root-dns-ip [10:44] worth asking also in #maas [10:44] yeah i tried that. no response yet [10:44] thanks for suggestion [10:46] Hi, I'm having hang up issues with an NFS server (on which I have to privilege, I'm merely a client using the debian nfs package). I'm having a fair load of IO, and I get read timeouts: https://pastebin.com/rJ7qu2hV u got any idea? :) [10:51] hello, is Xubuntu 17.04 unstable. I installed it today. I stops responding frequently. I am forced to manually reset my laptop. [10:51] losing all the work I could not save before it stopped responding. [10:51] this happens especially when I open a browser. [10:52] or media player. [10:55] can any1 share your stat alias, if any [10:56] linux_explore: What sort of hardware are you using? Is this an older machine with a low amount of RAM? [10:59] no. It is a new laptop. has 4 GBs or RAM and runs on intel core i3 2 ghz cpu. === zenguy is now known as crackhouseguy === crackhouseguy is now known as zenguy [11:02] linux_explore: you can now either spend time on trying to find out what is actually going wrong (by inspecting log files), download and try ubuntu 16.04 LTS instead (which can be more compatible), update the firmware, return to vendor (if they had claimed linux support). [11:04] tomreyn: the laptop cam with freedos installed. I installed Xubuntu myself. [11:04] and I have tried other distros before. Like Mint. [11:04] it doesn't have this problem. [11:05] tomreyn: is xubuntu lts more stable than xubuntu 17.04? [11:05] thats what lts mean [11:05] linux_explore: it can be [11:05] !lts [11:05] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. [11:05] ppang: doesn't lts mean just long term support? [11:06] LTS is not explicitly about stability, it's about long term support, right. [11:06] it doesn't mention anything about its relative stability. [11:06] ok [11:06] yes.. non lts versions are rather less stable ( 11.10 for eg) [11:07] wish I knew this before. [11:07] so much time and effort was spent in installing xubuntu 17.04 and all the needed packages. [11:08] live up to ur name.. [11:08] and it stopped responding not once but four times since I set it up today morning. [11:09] you could check "dmesg -T" and /var/log/syslog* to possibly determine the cause of this error. [11:09] every time forcing me to manually reset my laptop. [11:09] ok [11:09] I will have to log into xubuntu for that. [11:10] but, since you suggested xubuntu lts, that option seems to be a better one. [11:10] you can always try the live system before you install, same with 17.04 [11:11] but before you reinstall you should ensure to have the system fully updated [11:11] just to see whether this issue wa still fixed / worked around [11:11] ...just to see whether this issue was since fixed / worked around [11:11] yes. I did that multiple times. full update and upgrade. [11:12] and you rebooted since, too? [11:12] yes [11:14] okay well if it's fully up to date and the system is still not stable then you probably either need a firmware / microcode update or should try a supported LTS release. [11:15] linux_explore: I'm on Xubuntu 17.04, and am having a few issues, but nothing too serious (although I've had lockups too). What Video Card are you using? NVidia Optimus? [11:15] linux_explore: When the laptop hangs can you use SysRQ-REISUB? [11:16] Question for you guys more experienced with LVM. I have a logical volume of multiple disks. The volume is encrypted. One of the disks is in the process of failing. There's no way to remove the old drive and add a new drive to the volume without redoing the whole thing, is there? [11:16] linux_explore: Recently I've been experiencing Kernel Crashes, but no lockups. [11:16] Lachezar: no. Not NVidia. [11:17] the os freezes and never responds after that. [11:17] linux_explore: Do you know how to SysRQ-REISUB? [11:17] blakes5: where's the encryption layer? between partitions/disks and lvm PVs or on top of some LV? [11:18] Lachezar: no. what is that? [11:18] !sysrq [11:18] In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [11:18] tomreyn, The LV was created first. Then the encrypted file system. [11:18] linux_explore: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reisub basically this is a very low-level reboot procedure [11:19] linux_explore: After a REISUB you should look at /var/log/kern.log for tips what went wrong. [11:19] blakes5: okay. so "pvs" lists multiple disks / storage devices sdding to the same VG? [11:19] *adding [11:19] Lachezar: I will try that next time. [11:20] linux_explore: Other than some driver whoes I've had little problems with Xubuntu. [11:21] tomreyn, "pvs" means physical volumes? I'm going to add a new physical volume to the group and then remove the failing physical volume. [11:21] Lachezar: ok. [11:21] but, I don't see that problem in Mint. [11:21] and may be even xubuntu lts also doesn't have this problem. [11:21] blakes5: pvs is a LVM command to list LVM physical volumes and their relations to LVM volume groups [11:23] I need to make a simple edit to an Ubuntu ISO by way of inserting a preseed for auto installs. Is there a command line tool which retains the ISO bootable parameters and allows me to edit an existing ISO rather than needing to build my own from scratch ? [11:23] blakes5: you said "I have a logical volume of multiple disks", which, if I interpret it correctly, suggests you have, in the "sudo pvs" output, multiple "PV" devices relate to the same "VG". is this so? [11:24] linux_explore: It is possible, that newer version of a driver is worse than the previous. You _may_ try 16.04 instead, but it's a band-aid. [11:24] hello [11:24] linux_explore: Check in /var/log/kern.log* (some may be .gz) [11:24] tomreyn, you are correct. Multiple physical volumes are making a single logical volume. [11:24] Lachezar: I will do that. [11:25] linux_explore: I'm commonly using this: ls -1tr /var/log/kern.log* | xargs zgrep -A100 'cut here' [11:25] blakes5: 'pvs' does not list logical volumes, just physical volumes and volume groups. [11:25] Guys I get login loop but when I run sudo startx it works [11:25] linux_explore: It's a long-shot, because the kernel may have died without logging, but lines like this are sign of problems: ------------[ cut here ]------------ [11:26] ok [11:26] blakes5: would you like to share the 'sudo pvs' output? [11:27] blakes5: i'm trying to ensure wthat i correctly understand your configuration. misunderstanding it could make me provide suggestins which would result in data loss. so this is a relevant step. [11:27] tomreyn, one sec [11:28] !paste | blakes5 [11:28] blakes5: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [11:31] tomreyn, sent. [11:32] guys, getting login loop on nvidia drivers 17.04 [11:33] blakes5: what did you send where? [11:33] private [11:34] blakes5: oh i dont receive personal messages [11:34] blakes5: also it's better to keep things on the channel so everyone can help out [11:34] this should not include sensitive information [11:36] Ok, then thank you for your time and have a nice day. [11:36] welcome, good luck [11:41] boxrick: you'll need to rebuild the iso, but that's less complex than you seem to think https://askubuntu.com/questions/806820/how-do-i-create-a-completely-unattended-install-of-ubuntu-desktop-16-04-1-lts [11:43] Howdy folks [11:47] tomreyn: Hmm ok so from that its literally just a mount and a mkisofs which is fairly trivial. [11:47] Cheers for that [11:48] welcome [12:09] hello, does updating or upgrading ubuntu lts installs newer versions of packages? [12:10] and what makes lts version more stable than the regular one? [12:13] linux_explore: yes upgrading installs newer versions of packages [12:13] is the update policy followed by ubuntu lts and mint the same or similar? [12:14] I installed xubuntu 17.04 today. It turned out to be a little unstable. I was suggested to go for xubuntu lts. [12:14] for some programs such as my irc client or emacs the standard font is a lot smaller than for the terminal for example [12:14] any idea why ? [12:18] linux_explore: by upgrade do you mean running apt-get upgrade? if so, then the answer is "no", packages will not get newer versions, though with a few exception [12:30] Hiya! I have a question about Nvidia Drivers. I have an GeForce 840M, but it refuses to be recognized when i try to do stuff like gaming (for example, Civilization 6 has an option for witch graphics card it should use, but in my system the only one that shows is the inbuilt Intel chip). I have nvidia-375 currently installed. === NotKyros is now known as Kyros [12:37] If anyone knows the answer? The nvidia drivers confuse me. (Also, i'm on Ubuntu 17) [12:42] alisw, There's a Beta version of the driver available - http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/74888/en-us [12:42] alisw, You might want to try and install that [12:43] Isn't that from 2014? [12:43] But okay, let me try it [12:44] alisw, Also take a look at this thread - https://askubuntu.com/questions/518985/ubuntu-14-04-and-nvidia-geforce-840m-compatability-on-64-bit-laptop [12:45] I am new to linux. are ubuntu lts and mint similar as far as stability is concerned? [12:46] alisw, Generally, Nvidia has a bit of trouble with Linux :D [12:46] linux_explore: The LTS is just 'supported' for longer. I don't think stability is inherent, but due to LTS being 'slower' to update it _may_ be more stable. [12:46] alisw: don't do that [12:47] alisw: I have all my hardware with nVidia VCs, and *none* of those have the nvidia driver. It's just too much hassle. [12:47] Lachezar: as you suggested earlier, switching to lts is the only option for me then. I am using xubuntu 17.04. [12:49] linux_explore: I'm not suggesting to switch to LTS, but checking if LTS has the same issue, if not, than you *should* report a regression, otherwise it's probably a hardware incompatibility/issue. You can try a few live variants and see if there are differences [12:49] CreativeWolf: please don't tell people to download the driver from nvidia, they should use those that are packaged for ubuntu - either in the repos or the graphics-driver ppa [12:50] ok [12:50] linux_explore: Also *make* *sure* you to check your memory with the MemTest in the GRUB menu (at booting). [12:50] ducasse, My bad, will remember that, thanks =) [12:50] Lachezar: what does that do? checking the memory? [12:51] linux_explore: have you discounted temperature problems (overheating) ? [12:51] I have read about the update policy of mint? does that policy make it more stable? [12:51] Folks, any alternatives for Pessulus for Gnome 3 please? [12:52] I'm looking for a gui solution to prevent users from changing desktop settings etc, appreciate any recommendations please. [12:52] TJ-: there is no such problem. Even when I start my laptop after sufficient time gap, I still encounter that freezing issue on xubuntu 17.04 [12:53] linux_explore: You may be having bad memory blocks. Those tend to generate unexplicable reboots, lock ups and crashes. [12:53] linux_explore: Uncommon, but then again your situation seems uncommon too. [12:54] ok [12:55] linux_explore: ^^^ as Lachezar says. But, on temperatures, a CPU core can overheat in a couple of seconds. Best to check/monitor the temps to be sure. There are known issues, especially with laptops, where the motherboard BIOS ACPI doesn't support Linux, disables some functionality, and therefore causes this kind of result [12:56] TJ-: after installing xubuntu 17.04 and fully updating/upgrading I installed tlp also. [12:58] what happens if i assign the same ip on the same interface with different subnets? [13:02] Welp [13:03] Now i can't get past the login screen [13:03] It's giving me two messages when i log in the terminal [13:08] hey, somebody knows why scanning woudn't work from virtualbox? (guest: xubuntu tested both 32 and 64 bit 16.04, and two hp-lip versions) (hplip), printing with the same printer works, also printing and scanning works from host(kubuntu). hp-scan ends with: "error: SANE: Error during device I/O (code=9)" === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [13:10] alisw: you didn't install the driver from nvidia, did you? [13:11] alisw: i said not to do that, but you quit right after. i was hoping you saw it. [13:12] Yeah i rebooted [13:12] i installed nvidia-384 from the nvidia site [13:14] alisw: you should _always_ use drivers that are properly packaged for ubuntu, not download them from nvidia etc [13:17] The 384 driver isn't in the main repo I think. It is in a ppa the name of which I forget (on phone now) but iirc comes up readily on a search [13:17] Okay, i fucked up. Now what the hell do i do? [13:18] first of all, watch the language :) [13:18] I'm sorry :S [13:19] the ppa is ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa, but i'm not sure how to best get rid of the driver you installed [13:21] If they have instructions on uninstall, do that [13:22] alisw, My bad, i recommended that [13:23] It's fine, CreativeWolf [13:23] alisw, ctrl+alt+f1 should take you to TTY [13:23] I ran the uninstall program [13:23] alisw, apt remove --purge nvidia* [13:24] hi guys need ur help [13:24] i cannot install this gnome-shell-extensions 3.18.3-2 source package in Ubuntu [13:25] how should i do this [13:27] It still dosen't get me farther than the login screen. [13:27] alisw, apt-get autoremove ; echo "nouveau" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules [13:27] alisw, then reboot [13:28] alisw, are you able to get to TTY? [13:28] Also, xorg.conf is empty? [13:28] Yes. [13:28] I'm on the TTY. [13:28] i have a ubuntu server that lets me login via ssh for awhile but then ill get thrown it via connection reset [13:29] the server is not available for some time and then lets me login again === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [13:30] I asked a question [13:30] is here anybody who can help me ? [13:30] !patience | techsynt [13:30] techsynt: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [13:31] alisw, okay, apt install ubuntu-desktop and then rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf then reboot [13:31] alisw: no, stop. wait. [13:32] There's no xorg.conf already, apparently [13:32]