| valorie | I don't see my mail -- who was the sender? | 02:15 |
|---|---|---|
| * valorie is back from the cabin exhausted but now at least clean and fed! | 02:15 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @IrcsomeBot, :D | 02:16 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @valorie, Clivey | 02:16 |
| valorie | o/ | 02:16 |
| ahoneybun | I got the email | 02:17 |
| valorie | I might have too; I just want to know the sender so I can search for it | 02:28 |
| valorie | or the subject line | 02:44 |
| valorie | just checked spam -- not there | 02:44 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Forwarded it to you valorie | 02:47 |
| valorie | thank you, ahoneybun! | 02:54 |
| valorie | found mine, thanks! | 02:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Np | 02:58 |
| valorie | and voted | 02:58 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <acheronuk> https://blogs.kde.org/2017/09/05/konversation-2x-2018-new-user-interface-matrix-support-mobile-version | 07:53 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> They've done A LOT of research on that | 11:04 |
| clivejo | looks a lot like Google's UI design | 11:34 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <acheronuk> Irma looks nasty! | 15:48 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <acheronuk> @ahoneybun You are in the path of that? | 15:53 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Yep I am | 19:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> @acheronuk | 19:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @ahoneybun, Stay safe | 19:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> As much as we can anyway | 19:37 |
| valorie | damn, Irma picked up steam during the night? boo | 20:31 |
| valorie | do you have all the supplies you need, ahoneybun? | 20:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Probably | 20:32 |
| valorie | I love a good windstorm, but a hurricane - NO | 20:33 |
| valorie | I would love a version of konvi I could use on my phone | 20:34 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Mm mobile will not work good with IRC | 20:35 |
| valorie | so happy about the discussion about the future of KDE communication | 20:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Matrix sure | 20:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Ah no work Thurs and Fri | 20:35 |
| valorie | but that's the point -- being able to switch without pain | 20:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @valorie, What's the discussion about? | 20:38 |
| valorie | Riddell wrote to the community list saying let's ditch IRC and all move to RocketChat | 20:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> That was a CRAZY list | 20:39 |
| valorie | since then, much discussion about a better way forward | 20:39 |
| valorie | very productive | 20:39 |
| valorie | he was just trying to wake everyone up | 20:39 |
| valorie | not crazy | 20:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> The scale of the thread | 20:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Not the topic | 20:40 |
| valorie | I slept 'till 11, and feel almost caught up | 20:41 |
| valorie | well, KDE people are crazy | 20:41 |
| valorie | good crazy usually | 20:41 |
| valorie | although of course not always | 20:41 |
| valorie | lol | 20:41 |
| * valorie is included in that | 20:41 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> KDE folks are crazy | 20:42 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I might be moving to GNOME | 20:42 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> that HDMI audio issue was just soooo bad | 20:42 |
| valorie | what? | 20:48 |
| valorie | to be fair, all FOSS folks are crazy | 20:49 |
| valorie | if you did move to the GNOME community you would find the same | 20:49 |
| valorie | face it: people are crazy | 20:49 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I could not find the audio for my hdmi | 20:49 |
| valorie | oh | 20:49 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I'm talking about the software | 20:49 |
| valorie | interesting, the last few things I said here never got here, I guess | 21:56 |
| valorie | or at least were not replayed when I "got back" from having to reset my flipping cable modem | 21:56 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: see convo in #k-d? | 21:57 |
| clivejo | valorie: do you know davmor2 ? | 21:57 |
| valorie | tsimonq2: which conversation? | 22:00 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: he's go 4 emails on LP | 22:00 |
| acheronuk | *got | 22:00 |
| valorie | I followed the channel before getting disconnected | 22:00 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: dropping kdesudo | 22:00 |
| valorie | what's his realname? | 22:00 |
| valorie | oh, not read that yet | 22:00 |
| acheronuk | https://launchpad.net/~davmor2 | 22:00 |
| acheronuk | presumably | 22:00 |
| clivejo | yeah, found that and tried his gmail account | 22:01 |
| valorie | Dave Morley | 22:01 |
| valorie | sounds familiar but I'm not sure | 22:01 |
| clivejo | he's got Canonical email listed | 22:01 |
| valorie | yup | 22:01 |
| acheronuk | https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dave-morley-33573ab | 22:02 |
| valorie | if he works on snaps then Riddell and Sitter probably know him | 22:02 |
| clivejo | his website is very informative http://davmor2.co.uk/ | 22:03 |
| acheronuk | more so that mine | 22:05 |
| acheronuk | *than | 22:05 |
| * clivejo looks at rikmills.com | 22:06 | |
| clivejo | bit blank looking to be honest | 22:06 |
| acheronuk | short and to the point :P | 22:06 |
| clivejo | 15/41 voted so far | 22:07 |
| acheronuk | how many did last year? | 22:07 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk: Can I buy it and fill it with pics of Red Bull? :P | 22:07 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: Am I winning? :P | 22:07 |
| acheronuk | ahoneybun? | 22:07 |
| clivejo | of course Simon | 22:07 |
| clivejo | free stickers are vote winners | 22:08 |
| tsimonq2 | LOL | 22:08 |
| clivejo | I don't know who is winning, doesn't say until I End the poll | 22:09 |
| * acheronuk suggests clive does a plot of votes/day | 22:09 | |
| clivejo | so you are all winners until the 11th | 22:09 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: you plot it | 22:09 |
| clivejo | was 11 last night, and is 15 tonight | 22:10 |
| acheronuk | clive: going to send reminders towards the end? | 22:10 |
| clivejo | dunno if I can | 22:10 |
| clivejo | don't want to spam people | 22:10 |
| acheronuk | true | 22:10 |
| clivejo | if they don't want to vote I can't make them! | 22:10 |
| clivejo | I should have turned on detailed tracking | 22:11 |
| clivejo | name and shame the non-voters | 22:11 |
| acheronuk | in the end, the people who care are those who will vote, which seems fine to me | 22:12 |
| tsimonq2 | Pressure Riddell and Haruld :P | 22:13 |
| clivejo | they might have voted already | 22:13 |
| valorie | it will be fine | 22:13 |
| valorie | those who care will vote, and that's who we want to vote | 22:14 |
| acheronuk | echo... | 22:14 |
| clivejo | well 15 votes in 24hours is pretty good going | 22:14 |
| * tsimonq2 was joking, I know Haruld wants some free stickers :P | 22:14 | |
| clivejo | really? | 22:15 |
| acheronuk | probably wants his name spelt correctly as well | 22:15 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk: salty :P | 22:15 |
| clivejo | thought Haruld was more free alcohol kinda guy | 22:15 |
| valorie | nope, I offered him free drinks and he was suspicious | 22:16 |
| * tsimonq2 goes on a tangent, wondering if it would be worth it to apply for KD | 22:16 | |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: lol | 22:16 |
| valorie | "What will you ask of me if I accept?" | 22:16 |
| valorie | KD? | 22:16 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: devel | 22:16 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: (Kubuntu Developer) | 22:17 |
| clivejo | are you collecting LP badges or something? | 22:17 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: no :P | 22:17 |
| clivejo | you have MOTU, why you want KD? | 22:18 |
| valorie | tsimonq2: Peruse? | 22:18 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: Because there's Kubuntu packages in Main I want upload access to | 22:18 |
| clivejo | such as? | 22:18 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: A week ago I could tell you that... I don't remember now :P | 22:19 |
| clivejo | I don't think we have much in main, do we? | 22:19 |
| tsimonq2 | We have a couple of things in there | 22:19 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: Plus most of Qt that's in main | 22:19 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 22:19 |
| * clivejo raises eyebrow | 22:20 | |
| clivejo | that's the real reason | 22:20 |
| acheronuk | tsimonq2: is there any team you don't want to be on? | 22:20 |
| acheronuk | oh. clive already mentioned badges | 22:21 |
| acheronuk | same Q | 22:21 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk: My interest in team membership only lies within the teams I can actively contribute to | 22:21 |
| clivejo | do keep up Rik! | 22:22 |
| tsimonq2 | i.e. you won't see me around Xubuntu | 22:22 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk: For example I'm in the Ubuntu MATE Developers team because I've gotten $large_sum_of_money from flexiondotorg to do $a_couple_of_tasks (that will be public info soon) | 22:23 |
| tsimonq2 | etc. etc. etc. | 22:23 |
| tsimonq2 | But notice that I'm only in the teams I contribute to | 22:23 |
| tsimonq2 | But I do contribute to a lot of things | 22:23 |
| clivejo | with Unity gone, won't Qt be demoted to universe? | 22:25 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: Besides my LoCo (I remain in there because I want to be a member of the team but I don't have the time to organize things in person), I don't see anything on this list that I'm directly a member of that I haven't contributed to in the past month: https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+participation | 22:25 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: That's yet to be decided :P | 22:26 |
| tsimonq2 | If you can name one team that I'm a member of that I haven't recently contributed to, let me know so I can leave it :P | 22:26 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: ack on Peruse fwiw, if you give me an ack with your Kubuntu Release Manager hat on that it's OK to upload, I'll happily do it | 22:27 |
| clivejo | Ubuntu Cyclists | 22:27 |
| clivejo | Harald Sitter's Groupies | 22:28 |
| clivejo | Daniel Holbach Huggers | 22:28 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: That's one of those teams like "Daniel Holbach Huggers" that I'm in for symbolic reasons :P | 22:28 |
| tsimonq2 | <3 dholbach | 22:28 |
| tsimonq2 | <3 Haruld | 22:28 |
| clivejo | badge collecter more like! | 22:28 |
| tsimonq2 | And I do <3 my bike | 22:28 |
| ahoneybun | Harald | 22:29 |
| tsimonq2 | Haruld | 22:29 |
| tsimonq2 | Whenever I say Haruld or Timmus, imagine me saying it with an Irish accent :P | 22:30 |
| ahoneybun | Harald and Timmis | 22:30 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: And you think I correct people a lot! :P | 22:30 |
| tsimonq2 | Haruld | 22:30 |
| tsimonq2 | Timmus | 22:30 |
| tsimonq2 | Aarun | 22:30 |
| ahoneybun | but your doing it on purpose | 22:31 |
| tsimonq2 | *you're | 22:31 |
| ahoneybun | I just spell somethings wrong | 22:31 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: stop making fun of my accent! | 22:31 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: I'm not making fun of it, I'm embracing my Irish roots :P | 22:31 |
| clivejo | what roots? | 22:32 |
| tsimonq2 | I have ancestors that lived in Ireland | 22:32 |
| clivejo | where when? | 22:32 |
| tsimonq2 | Like 5 generations ago | 22:32 |
| tsimonq2 | Somewhere in Ireland | 22:32 |
| clivejo | LOL | 22:33 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: would you take on preparing and uploading other KDE tools like the sddm-kcm package? | 22:35 |
| valorie | tsimonq2: if clivejo and acheronuk say that Peruse is in good shape, then please upload | 22:36 |
| valorie | I've not been able to test it for various reasons | 22:36 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: I can get it in good shape myself, copyright is just b0rked | 22:37 |
| * clivejo doesn't think its in good shape | 22:37 | |
| tsimonq2 | Me neither | 22:37 |
| tsimonq2 | I have to fix it :P | 22:37 |
| clivejo | don't like the idea of patching a copyright statement | 22:38 |
| acheronuk | released one is still kirigami v1 | 22:38 |
| acheronuk | and kirigami2 one is recent WIP | 22:38 |
| clivejo | if 5.37 goes in, then a git snapshot might be possible? | 22:38 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo, acheronuk: When you need things uploaded could you please dput it somewhere and just email me the link or Telegram it to me? | 22:39 |
| acheronuk | 5.37? | 22:39 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: ...you mean 5.38? 5.37 has been in the archive for a while | 22:39 |
| clivejo | sorry 5.38 | 22:40 |
| valorie | hmmm, Eike's recent blogpost about Konvi sort of referred to peruse as ready-to-use software | 22:40 |
| valorie | I didn't know about issues | 22:40 |
| valorie | :( | 22:40 |
| clivejo | there are conflicting copyright statements | 22:40 |
| acheronuk | https://cgit.kde.org/peruse.git/log/ | 22:40 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: Let me ping slangasek and ask him about patching copyrights | 22:40 |
| clivejo | leinir made the changes to fix it in git, but won't release a fixed tarball | 22:41 |
| acheronuk | doesn't seem very ready to go, unless he meant the 8 month old 1.2 kirigami1 based release | 22:41 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh, well then I can do a Git snapshot | 22:41 |
| tsimonq2 | np | 22:41 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk: What's he waiting on? | 22:41 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: the latest git requires a fix to frameworks | 22:42 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: What fix? | 22:42 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: Because if it's bugfix, I can upload the patch from upstream then fix up peruse and upload | 22:43 |
| tsimonq2 | Otherwise it can go in the Frameworks SRU | 22:43 |
| tsimonq2 | s/SRU/FFE bug report/ | 22:43 |
| clivejo | https://cgit.kde.org/peruse.git/commit/?id=aed2256a1e5c8a46122f9ec5a10c770239d02ec5 | 22:43 |
| valorie | or you could ask leinir directly, as the maintainer | 22:43 |
| valorie | fixing the copyrights upstream would be best, yes? | 22:44 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: we already have 5.37 in the archive | 22:44 |
| clivejo | he bumped the required KF5Kirigami2 to 5.37.0 | 22:44 |
| acheronuk | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kirigami2/5.37.0-0ubuntu1 | 22:44 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: That's already done, it's in upstream git master | 22:44 |
| valorie | cool | 22:45 |
| valorie | ok, gotta deal with the next round of laundry | 22:45 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: We're going to get Peruse in for you :P | 22:45 |
| valorie | no rest for the wicked | 22:45 |
| valorie | \o/ | 22:45 |
| valorie | I can finally read my doctor who comics! | 22:45 |
| tsimonq2 | S L E E P I S F O R T H E W E A K - REDBULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL | 22:45 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: :D | 22:45 |
| clivejo | grrrr | 22:46 |
| valorie | rest is a unix command, silly! | 22:46 |
| clivejo | I can't keep up | 22:46 |
| valorie | as is sleep | 22:46 |
| valorie | sheesh | 22:46 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: I don't know enough about Doctor Who to be excited with you, but you should be able to do that under Kubuntu :P | 22:46 |
| clivejo | then what about a git snapshot of peruse? | 22:48 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: I plan on that ;) | 22:48 |
| clivejo | just tried it, and it;s working fine | 22:48 |
| clivejo | loads the comic porn great | 22:49 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: I have a tablet for that | 22:49 |
| clivejo | oooo Get hot new books | 22:49 |
| ahoneybun | clivejo: reading hentai? | 22:50 |
| clivejo | dunno what it is | 22:50 |
| clivejo | I downloaded a test comic and was shocked! | 22:50 |
| clivejo | eakkk | 22:50 |
| clivejo | spoke too soon | 22:50 |
| clivejo | clicking on "Get new books" seems to have crashed it | 22:51 |
| clivejo | "/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings/peruse.knsrc" doesn't contain a KNewStuff3 section. | 22:54 |
| clivejo | file:///usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/org/kde/kirigami.2/private/ActionButton.qml:350: TypeError: Cannot read property 'level' of null | 22:54 |
| tsimonq2 | Once we get a working Peruse, I'll be happy to look at it more. | 22:59 |
| acheronuk | someone teach pino to wrap-and-sort! | 23:00 |
| clivejo | that is so annoying | 23:06 |
| tsimonq2 | Is that in Debian git? | 23:07 |
| clivejo | yup | 23:07 |
| clivejo | he never seems to wrap-and-sort his work | 23:08 |
| tsimonq2 | What package? | 23:09 |
| clivejo | I assume https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/ktorrent.git/ | 23:13 |
| * clivejo shivers | 23:13 | |
| clivejo | https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/ktorrent.git/tree/debian/control | 23:13 |
| tsimonq2 | Fixed. | 23:15 |
| valorie | tsimonq2: yes, I read the first few with ocular | 23:16 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: hm? | 23:17 |
| valorie | but I wanted peruse, as that was made for it! | 23:17 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh | 23:17 |
| tsimonq2 | Yah | 23:17 |
| tsimonq2 | *Yeah | 23:17 |
| valorie | I bought a bundle of the comics on that site that pays the authors for their work | 23:18 |
| valorie | can't recall the name | 23:18 |
| valorie | they usually do games, but occasionally other stuff | 23:18 |
| ahoneybun | humble bundle? | 23:18 |
| valorie | yes | 23:18 |
| ahoneybun | I know they did a doctor who one | 23:18 |
| valorie | a few of them, actually | 23:18 |
| valorie | whatever they could license, I imagine | 23:19 |
| ahoneybun | clivejo: I have https https://ahoneybun.net/ | 23:25 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: BC? | 23:26 |
| clivejo | you have mixed content too :P | 23:26 |
| ahoneybun | ahh tsimonq2 | 23:27 |
| ahoneybun | mixed content? | 23:27 |
| clivejo | insecure content on the page | 23:27 |
| ahoneybun | where? | 23:27 |
| clivejo | makes the browser demote the page | 23:27 |
| clivejo | https://blog.ahoneybun.net/ | 23:27 |
| ahoneybun | that's a different server if I remember right | 23:27 |
| clivejo | well its trying to access it over https | 23:28 |
| ahoneybun | nah it's on the same server | 23:29 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 23:29 |
| ahoneybun | tsimonq2: any help on getting it more mobile friendly | 23:31 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: Is it in Git somewhere or is it just WP or something? | 23:32 |
| ahoneybun | it's just html and css on the server right now | 23:32 |
| ahoneybun | the blog is WP | 23:32 |
| ahoneybun | ahoneybun.net is just html and css | 23:32 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: My mobile-friendly stuff is all CSS3: https://gitlab.com/tsimonq2/tsimonq2.gitlab.io | 23:32 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 23:34 |
| valorie | oh damn, our cabin is under much more threat than I thought | 23:38 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: O_O ? | 23:38 |
| valorie | forest fire up there | 23:38 |
| tsimonq2 | Eek! | 23:38 |
| ahoneybun | I'm looking up funny domains | 23:38 |
| valorie | there is ash falling out of the air here | 23:38 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: rikmills.com :P | 23:38 |
| valorie | and we live 45 mins away | 23:38 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh no! | 23:39 |
| valorie | we just finished the new deck yesterday | 23:40 |
| valorie | and sawed up the old one and stacked it in the woodshed for the winter | 23:40 |
| valorie | crossing my fingers for luck | 23:40 |
| tsimonq2 | Not good :( | 23:40 |
| valorie | https://www.facebook.com/CrystalMountainWashington/photos/a.432458485232.199824.100997105232/10154843344565233/?type=3&theater&ifg=1 | 23:41 |
| valorie | that's the ski area about a half-hour drive up the hill | 23:41 |
| valorie | yesterday | 23:42 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> yikes! | 23:43 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: regarding Qt why don't you apply to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qt-packages-uploaders ? | 23:43 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: Good point :P | 23:43 |
| tsimonq2 | Or I could just aim for Core Developer... | 23:44 |
| clivejo | indeed | 23:44 |
| clivejo | MOTW | 23:44 |
| tsimonq2 | No, I'd be a Master of the Universe and the Core | 23:45 |
| tsimonq2 | XD | 23:45 |
| clivejo | what are we gonna do tonight Brain? | 23:45 |
| tsimonq2 | (MOTU is a subset of Core Developer) | 23:45 |
| acheronuk | narf | 23:45 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: put Max in a sheep costume and have him jump over your bed | 23:45 |
| valorie | that first part seems easier to say than to do | 23:47 |
| ahoneybun | oh boy interview for system76 tomorrow | 23:59 |
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