[02:15] I don't see my mail -- who was the sender? [02:15] * valorie is back from the cabin exhausted but now at least clean and fed! [02:16] @IrcsomeBot, :D [02:16] @valorie, Clivey [02:16] o/ [02:17] I got the email [02:28] I might have too; I just want to know the sender so I can search for it [02:44] or the subject line [02:44] just checked spam -- not there [02:47] Forwarded it to you valorie [02:54] thank you, ahoneybun! [02:57] found mine, thanks! [02:58] Np [02:58] and voted [07:53] https://blogs.kde.org/2017/09/05/konversation-2x-2018-new-user-interface-matrix-support-mobile-version [11:04] They've done A LOT of research on that [11:34] looks a lot like Google's UI design [15:48] Irma looks nasty! [15:53] @ahoneybun You are in the path of that? [19:36] Yep I am [19:36] @acheronuk [19:37] @ahoneybun, Stay safe [19:37] As much as we can anyway [20:31] damn, Irma picked up steam during the night? boo [20:31] do you have all the supplies you need, ahoneybun? [20:32] Probably [20:33] I love a good windstorm, but a hurricane - NO [20:34] I would love a version of konvi I could use on my phone [20:35] Mm mobile will not work good with IRC [20:35] so happy about the discussion about the future of KDE communication [20:35] Matrix sure [20:35] Ah no work Thurs and Fri [20:35] but that's the point -- being able to switch without pain [20:38] @valorie, What's the discussion about? [20:39] Riddell wrote to the community list saying let's ditch IRC and all move to RocketChat [20:39] That was a CRAZY list [20:39] since then, much discussion about a better way forward [20:39] very productive [20:39] he was just trying to wake everyone up [20:40] not crazy [20:40] The scale of the thread [20:40] Not the topic [20:41] I slept 'till 11, and feel almost caught up [20:41] well, KDE people are crazy [20:41] good crazy usually [20:41] although of course not always [20:41] lol [20:41] * valorie is included in that [20:42] KDE folks are crazy [20:42] I might be moving to GNOME [20:42] that HDMI audio issue was just soooo bad [20:48] what? [20:49] to be fair, all FOSS folks are crazy [20:49] if you did move to the GNOME community you would find the same [20:49] face it: people are crazy [20:49] I could not find the audio for my hdmi [20:49] oh [20:49] I'm talking about the software [21:56] interesting, the last few things I said here never got here, I guess [21:56] or at least were not replayed when I "got back" from having to reset my flipping cable modem [21:57] valorie: see convo in #k-d? [21:57] valorie: do you know davmor2 ? [22:00] tsimonq2: which conversation? [22:00] clivejo: he's go 4 emails on LP [22:00] *got [22:00] I followed the channel before getting disconnected [22:00] valorie: dropping kdesudo [22:00] what's his realname? [22:00] oh, not read that yet [22:00] https://launchpad.net/~davmor2 [22:00] presumably [22:01] yeah, found that and tried his gmail account [22:01] Dave Morley [22:01] sounds familiar but I'm not sure [22:01] he's got Canonical email listed [22:01] yup [22:02] https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dave-morley-33573ab [22:02] if he works on snaps then Riddell and Sitter probably know him [22:03] his website is very informative http://davmor2.co.uk/ [22:05] more so that mine [22:05] *than [22:06] * clivejo looks at rikmills.com [22:06] bit blank looking to be honest [22:06] short and to the point :P [22:07] 15/41 voted so far [22:07] how many did last year? [22:07] acheronuk: Can I buy it and fill it with pics of Red Bull? :P [22:07] clivejo: Am I winning? :P [22:07] ahoneybun? [22:07] of course Simon [22:08] free stickers are vote winners [22:08] LOL [22:09] I don't know who is winning, doesn't say until I End the poll [22:09] * acheronuk suggests clive does a plot of votes/day [22:09] so you are all winners until the 11th [22:09] acheronuk: you plot it [22:10] was 11 last night, and is 15 tonight [22:10] clive: going to send reminders towards the end? [22:10] dunno if I can [22:10] don't want to spam people [22:10] true [22:10] if they don't want to vote I can't make them! [22:11] I should have turned on detailed tracking [22:11] name and shame the non-voters [22:12] in the end, the people who care are those who will vote, which seems fine to me [22:13] Pressure Riddell and Haruld :P [22:13] they might have voted already [22:13] it will be fine [22:14] those who care will vote, and that's who we want to vote [22:14] echo... [22:14] well 15 votes in 24hours is pretty good going [22:14] * tsimonq2 was joking, I know Haruld wants some free stickers :P [22:15] really? [22:15] probably wants his name spelt correctly as well [22:15] acheronuk: salty :P [22:15] thought Haruld was more free alcohol kinda guy [22:16] nope, I offered him free drinks and he was suspicious [22:16] * tsimonq2 goes on a tangent, wondering if it would be worth it to apply for KD [22:16] valorie: lol [22:16] "What will you ask of me if I accept?" [22:16] KD? [22:16] valorie: devel [22:17] valorie: (Kubuntu Developer) [22:17] are you collecting LP badges or something? [22:17] clivejo: no :P [22:18] you have MOTU, why you want KD? [22:18] tsimonq2: Peruse? [22:18] clivejo: Because there's Kubuntu packages in Main I want upload access to [22:18] such as? [22:19] clivejo: A week ago I could tell you that... I don't remember now :P [22:19] I don't think we have much in main, do we? [22:19] We have a couple of things in there [22:19] clivejo: Plus most of Qt that's in main [22:19] :P [22:20] * clivejo raises eyebrow [22:20] that's the real reason [22:20] tsimonq2: is there any team you don't want to be on? [22:21] oh. clive already mentioned badges [22:21] same Q [22:21] acheronuk: My interest in team membership only lies within the teams I can actively contribute to [22:22] do keep up Rik! [22:22] i.e. you won't see me around Xubuntu [22:23] acheronuk: For example I'm in the Ubuntu MATE Developers team because I've gotten $large_sum_of_money from flexiondotorg to do $a_couple_of_tasks (that will be public info soon) [22:23] etc. etc. etc. [22:23] But notice that I'm only in the teams I contribute to [22:23] But I do contribute to a lot of things [22:25] with Unity gone, won't Qt be demoted to universe? [22:25] clivejo: Besides my LoCo (I remain in there because I want to be a member of the team but I don't have the time to organize things in person), I don't see anything on this list that I'm directly a member of that I haven't contributed to in the past month: https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+participation [22:26] clivejo: That's yet to be decided :P [22:26] If you can name one team that I'm a member of that I haven't recently contributed to, let me know so I can leave it :P [22:27] valorie: ack on Peruse fwiw, if you give me an ack with your Kubuntu Release Manager hat on that it's OK to upload, I'll happily do it [22:27] Ubuntu Cyclists [22:28] Harald Sitter's Groupies [22:28] Daniel Holbach Huggers [22:28] clivejo: That's one of those teams like "Daniel Holbach Huggers" that I'm in for symbolic reasons :P [22:28] <3 dholbach [22:28] <3 Haruld [22:28] badge collecter more like! [22:28] And I do <3 my bike [22:29] Harald [22:29] Haruld [22:30] Whenever I say Haruld or Timmus, imagine me saying it with an Irish accent :P [22:30] Harald and Timmis [22:30] ahoneybun: And you think I correct people a lot! :P [22:30] Haruld [22:30] Timmus [22:30] Aarun [22:31] but your doing it on purpose [22:31] *you're [22:31] I just spell somethings wrong [22:31] tsimonq2: stop making fun of my accent! [22:31] clivejo: I'm not making fun of it, I'm embracing my Irish roots :P [22:32] what roots? [22:32] I have ancestors that lived in Ireland [22:32] where when? [22:32] Like 5 generations ago [22:32] Somewhere in Ireland [22:33] LOL [22:35] tsimonq2: would you take on preparing and uploading other KDE tools like the sddm-kcm package? [22:36] tsimonq2: if clivejo and acheronuk say that Peruse is in good shape, then please upload [22:36] I've not been able to test it for various reasons [22:37] valorie: I can get it in good shape myself, copyright is just b0rked [22:37] * clivejo doesn't think its in good shape [22:37] Me neither [22:37] I have to fix it :P [22:38] don't like the idea of patching a copyright statement [22:38] released one is still kirigami v1 [22:38] and kirigami2 one is recent WIP [22:38] if 5.37 goes in, then a git snapshot might be possible? [22:39] clivejo, acheronuk: When you need things uploaded could you please dput it somewhere and just email me the link or Telegram it to me? [22:39] 5.37? [22:39] clivejo: ...you mean 5.38? 5.37 has been in the archive for a while [22:40] sorry 5.38 [22:40] hmmm, Eike's recent blogpost about Konvi sort of referred to peruse as ready-to-use software [22:40] I didn't know about issues [22:40] :( [22:40] there are conflicting copyright statements [22:40] https://cgit.kde.org/peruse.git/log/ [22:40] clivejo: Let me ping slangasek and ask him about patching copyrights [22:41] leinir made the changes to fix it in git, but won't release a fixed tarball [22:41] doesn't seem very ready to go, unless he meant the 8 month old 1.2 kirigami1 based release [22:41] Oh, well then I can do a Git snapshot [22:41] np [22:41] acheronuk: What's he waiting on? [22:42] tsimonq2: the latest git requires a fix to frameworks [22:42] clivejo: What fix? [22:43] clivejo: Because if it's bugfix, I can upload the patch from upstream then fix up peruse and upload [22:43] Otherwise it can go in the Frameworks SRU [22:43] s/SRU/FFE bug report/ [22:43] https://cgit.kde.org/peruse.git/commit/?id=aed2256a1e5c8a46122f9ec5a10c770239d02ec5 [22:43] or you could ask leinir directly, as the maintainer [22:44] fixing the copyrights upstream would be best, yes? [22:44] clivejo: we already have 5.37 in the archive [22:44] he bumped the required KF5Kirigami2 to 5.37.0 [22:44] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kirigami2/5.37.0-0ubuntu1 [22:44] valorie: That's already done, it's in upstream git master [22:45] cool [22:45] ok, gotta deal with the next round of laundry [22:45] valorie: We're going to get Peruse in for you :P [22:45] no rest for the wicked [22:45] \o/ [22:45] I can finally read my doctor who comics! [22:45] S L E E P I S F O R T H E W E A K - REDBULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL [22:45] valorie: :D [22:46] grrrr [22:46] rest is a unix command, silly! [22:46] I can't keep up [22:46] as is sleep [22:46] sheesh [22:46] valorie: I don't know enough about Doctor Who to be excited with you, but you should be able to do that under Kubuntu :P [22:48] then what about a git snapshot of peruse? [22:48] clivejo: I plan on that ;) [22:48] just tried it, and it;s working fine [22:49] loads the comic porn great [22:49] valorie: I have a tablet for that [22:49] oooo Get hot new books [22:50] clivejo: reading hentai? [22:50] dunno what it is [22:50] I downloaded a test comic and was shocked! [22:50] eakkk [22:50] spoke too soon [22:51] clicking on "Get new books" seems to have crashed it [22:54] "/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings/peruse.knsrc" doesn't contain a KNewStuff3 section. [22:54] file:///usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/org/kde/kirigami.2/private/ActionButton.qml:350: TypeError: Cannot read property 'level' of null [22:59] Once we get a working Peruse, I'll be happy to look at it more. [23:00] someone teach pino to wrap-and-sort! [23:06] that is so annoying [23:07] Is that in Debian git? [23:07] yup [23:08] he never seems to wrap-and-sort his work [23:09] What package? [23:13] I assume https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/ktorrent.git/ [23:13] * clivejo shivers [23:13] https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/ktorrent.git/tree/debian/control [23:15] Fixed. [23:16] tsimonq2: yes, I read the first few with ocular [23:17] valorie: hm? [23:17] but I wanted peruse, as that was made for it! [23:17] Oh [23:17] Yah [23:17] *Yeah [23:18] I bought a bundle of the comics on that site that pays the authors for their work [23:18] can't recall the name [23:18] they usually do games, but occasionally other stuff [23:18] humble bundle? [23:18] yes [23:18] I know they did a doctor who one [23:18] a few of them, actually [23:19] whatever they could license, I imagine [23:25] clivejo: I have https https://ahoneybun.net/ [23:26] ahoneybun: BC? [23:26] you have mixed content too :P [23:27] ahh tsimonq2 [23:27] mixed content? [23:27] insecure content on the page [23:27] where? [23:27] makes the browser demote the page [23:27] https://blog.ahoneybun.net/ [23:27] that's a different server if I remember right [23:28] well its trying to access it over https [23:29] nah it's on the same server [23:29] mm [23:31] tsimonq2: any help on getting it more mobile friendly [23:32] ahoneybun: Is it in Git somewhere or is it just WP or something? [23:32] it's just html and css on the server right now [23:32] the blog is WP [23:32] ahoneybun.net is just html and css [23:32] ahoneybun: My mobile-friendly stuff is all CSS3: https://gitlab.com/tsimonq2/tsimonq2.gitlab.io [23:34] mm [23:38] oh damn, our cabin is under much more threat than I thought [23:38] valorie: O_O ? [23:38] forest fire up there [23:38] Eek! [23:38] I'm looking up funny domains [23:38] there is ash falling out of the air here [23:38] ahoneybun: rikmills.com :P [23:38] and we live 45 mins away [23:39] Oh no! [23:40] we just finished the new deck yesterday [23:40] and sawed up the old one and stacked it in the woodshed for the winter [23:40] crossing my fingers for luck [23:40] Not good :( [23:41] https://www.facebook.com/CrystalMountainWashington/photos/a.432458485232.199824.100997105232/10154843344565233/?type=3&theater&ifg=1 [23:41] that's the ski area about a half-hour drive up the hill [23:42] yesterday [23:43] yikes! [23:43] tsimonq2: regarding Qt why don't you apply to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qt-packages-uploaders ? [23:43] clivejo: Good point :P [23:44] Or I could just aim for Core Developer... [23:44] indeed [23:44] MOTW [23:45] No, I'd be a Master of the Universe and the Core [23:45] XD [23:45] what are we gonna do tonight Brain? [23:45] (MOTU is a subset of Core Developer) [23:45] narf [23:45] clivejo: put Max in a sheep costume and have him jump over your bed [23:47] that first part seems easier to say than to do [23:59] oh boy interview for system76 tomorrow