[16:00] <cpaelzer> o/
[16:00] <powersj> o/
[16:00] <nacc> o/
[16:01] <ahasenack> o/
[16:01] <rbasak> o/
[16:01] <cpaelzer> actually who is chairing today
[16:01]  * cpaelzer is it everytime he asks that ... checking ...
[16:01] <rbasak> smoser was up, but I only did the minutes a few hours earlier.
[16:01] <blackboxsw> o/
[16:02] <cpaelzer> but smoser said yes last week IIRC
[16:03] <dpb1> o/
[16:04] <smb> o/
[16:04] <ahasenack> I can chair then, it's been a while
[16:05] <ahasenack> if everyone is ok with it
[16:05] <dpb1> OK
[16:05] <dpb1> sacrificial lamb
[16:05] <ahasenack> or is someone pinging smoser?
[16:05] <smoser> o/
[16:05] <smoser> sorry.
[16:05] <smoser> here.
[16:05] <dpb1> oh
[16:05] <smoser> 5 minutes late. starting
[16:05] <dpb1> he is here!
[16:05] <ahasenack> ohhi :)
[16:05] <smoser> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep  5 16:05:54 2017 UTC.  The chair is smoser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:05] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
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[16:06] <smoser> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
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[16:06] <smoser> looks like there were no action (per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting)
[16:06] <smoser> oh. wait. reading wrong
[16:06] <smoser> * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:06] <smoser> is that right ?
[16:06] <nacc> smoser: carry over
[16:06] <nacc> smoser: yeah
[16:06] <smoser> wow
[16:06] <smoser> :)
[16:07] <smoser> ACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:07] <smoser> #ACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:07] <meetingology> ACTION: : nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:07] <nacc> smoser: also that one
[16:07] <smoser> * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:07] <cpaelzer> I keep reminding that we can almost start to think/prep artful release notes now
[16:07] <smoser> #ACTION nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:07] <meetingology> ACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:07] <smoser> * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)
[16:07] <rbasak> Carry over please again
[16:08] <smoser> #ACTION: rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)
[16:08] <meetingology> ACTION: : rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)
[16:08] <smoser> #topic Artful Development
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[16:08] <smoser> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule
[16:08] <ahasenack> final beta, sep 28th
[16:09] <cpaelzer> thanks for that date ahasenack
[16:09] <smoser> today is Septmber 4th, so we are post Beta 1 Freeze and FeatureFreeze.
[16:09] <smoser> the final beta freeze is actually the Sep 21.
[16:09] <cpaelzer> last time we asked for FFEs are there new ones that were (or are going to be) added?
[16:10] <cpaelzer> I see 28th in the wiki as ahasenack does
[16:10] <smoser> er... (math wrong). Sept 25. the beta on 28th
[16:10] <cpaelzer> 21st is documentation string freeze
[16:11] <smoser> the Final Beta Freeze is Monday the 25th . the Final Beta is Thursday the 28th.
[16:11] <smoser> the link only lists thursdays, it says "(Monday)" for the freezse
[16:11] <smoser> anyway... thats roughly where we are.
[16:11] <smoser> bugs to fix, things to make better now.
[16:11] <smoser> #subtopic Current Work
[16:11] <smoser> #link https://trello.com/b/U9HhWyT0/daily-ubuntu-server
[16:11] <smoser> anyone want to coment on tasks they have ^
[16:11] <smoser>  ?
[16:12] <cpaelzer> nothing special I'd know about atm
[16:12] <smoser> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:13] <smoser> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:13] <ahasenack> that list is suspiciously short
[16:14] <smoser> hm..
[16:14] <smoser> possibly. probably. probably https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1713803 should be added. i'll get that added.
[16:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1713803 in whereami (Ubuntu) "replacement of resolvconf with systemd needs integration" [Undecided,New]
[16:14] <cpaelzer> I'm on the ntp bug in there
[16:15] <smoser> ahasenack, are you volunteering to look at why that list is suspiciously short ? any thing you had in mind ?
[16:15] <cpaelzer> ack smoser, yours is a big one that should be in there
[16:15] <ahasenack> smoser: do you know what script generates it?
[16:16] <smoser> rbasak does. it is based on tags i blieve.
[16:16] <smoser> or not. as the ntp one has no tags.
[16:16] <cpaelzer> bug tasks
[16:16] <rbasak> It uses Artful bug tasks
[16:16] <ahasenack> it has a "status tracked in artful" status
[16:16] <nacc> i think it's just ~ubuntu-server bugs with artful tasks?
[16:16] <cpaelzer> if a bug is open against devel, but not has a artful task it is not on there
[16:16] <ahasenack> sounds like it
[16:16] <smoser> there you go.
[16:16] <rbasak> Which is debatable as to whether that's the correct way to track them.
[16:17] <nacc> highly debatable
[16:17] <rbasak> I'm not sure it is. I don't create Artful tasks.
[16:17] <nacc> yeah
[16:17] <rbasak> Because they don't roll forward.
[16:17] <nacc> it's implicit that right now, devel tasks are artful takss
[16:17] <rbasak> Well, sort of.
[16:17] <nacc> *tasks
[16:17] <smoser> so the useful ness of the list is suspect
[16:17] <cpaelzer> I create them when I'm convinced I tackleit in that release
[16:17] <smoser> do you have a better listi ?
[16:17] <rbasak> smoser: correct
[16:17] <cpaelzer> whic is why the ntp bug is on there
[16:17] <rbasak> We can use milestones.
[16:18] <smoser> or do we just stop discussing this. mile stones ... still require a task
[16:18] <rbasak> But I don't think the milestone bug list would be filtered by bug subscriber.
[16:18] <rbasak> Milestones can use the standard development task.
[16:18] <rbasak> The necessary discussion should probably happen on ubuntu-release@
[16:19] <rbasak> I've never considered it important enough to take on the big task of driving it.
[16:19] <smoser> ok.
[16:19] <smoser> well, i'm open to any suggestions on what should happen here.
[16:19] <smoser> including "go on to next task"
[16:19] <nacc> "go on to the next task"
[16:19] <nacc> smoser: --^ :)
[16:19] <smoser> s/task/section of meeting/
[16:19] <smoser> all opposed ?
[16:19] <smoser> tabled
[16:20] <smoser> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet)
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[16:20] <ddstreet> no updates from slashd and me
[16:20] <smoser> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:20] <cpaelzer> did percona SRU move forward?
[16:20] <smoser> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:21] <smoser> ddstreet, ^ ? per cpaelzer above ?
[16:21] <ddstreet> cpaelzer sorry i'm not sure, slashd just let me know there were no updates to communicate
[16:21] <ddstreet> i can check briefly
[16:21] <cpaelzer> ok
[16:21]  * smoser notes no string 'percona' in https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[16:21] <smoser> and none at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=percona
[16:21] <cpaelzer> rbasak: did you review since last week?
[16:22] <smoser> so i think the answer is 'no'
[16:22] <cpaelzer> ok for nos smoser,I can check the bug on my own
[16:22] <rbasak> percona is waiting an Artful FTBFS last I know.
[16:22] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)
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[16:22] <rbasak> I haven't looked since.
[16:22] <smoser> #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/
[16:22] <rbasak> I believe STS are aware.
[16:23] <powersj> Last week spent a lot of time trying to get the ISO tests going again. All artful smoke tests started failing after gdebi-core was moved to universe. Utah was also attempting to injecting gdebi-core preventing testing. Modified Utah to not require gdebi at all and install via dpkg + apt-get.
[16:23] <rbasak> Incidentally this probably shouldn't block the SRU if it's difficult to fix for some technical reason.
[16:23] <powersj> This week the tests started hanging again over the weekend asking for the keyboard information, but I am not sure what changed. Looking into that.
[16:24] <powersj> questions?
[16:25] <smoser> looks like none...
[16:25] <smoser> moving on
[16:25] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)
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[16:25] <smb> I hear we might be resolving the final issues which kept us from moving to the final 4.13 kernel version for Artful. So that should happen rather soon. Some update to flashcache which I mentioned last time: just by odd coincidence(?) after having done so, the upstream github project showed some signs of life. Though those changes did not fix later kernels yet we re-visited this and think we have a working fix for
[16:25] <smb> now. But from what we heard from upstream sources we should get rid of it in 18.04 (remove from archive).
[16:25] <smb> Other than that: questions?
[16:25] <ddstreet> rbasak cpaelzer smoser brief follow up on percona, yes it is waiting on a FTBFS issue that STS is currently working on
[16:26] <smoser> thanks ddstreet
[16:26] <smoser> moving on ... no questions seen for smb.
[16:26] <smoser> so
[16:26] <smoser> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
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[16:26] <smoser> #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/
[16:26] <smoser> #link http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Developer_Summit
[16:27] <smoser> that second link seems like it should be dropped unless we weekly just want to track openzfs
[16:27] <smoser> :)
[16:27] <slashd> smoser, just a quick note .... can you add in the meeting note or else, that I'll be absent for the next 2 weeks (conference and vacation). ddstreet will be my backup.
[16:27] <smoser> k. thanks.
[16:27] <slashd> smoser, tks
[16:28] <ahasenack> smoser: +1 to drop the openzfs one
[16:28] <smoser> see cfp link above... orconf and netdev2.2 are coming up.
[16:28] <smoser> other than that
[16:28] <smoser> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
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[16:28] <smoser> anyone have anything here ?
[16:29] <smoser> #topic Open Discussion
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[16:29] <smoser> anything ?
[16:29] <ahasenack> not from me
[16:29] <cpaelzer> nope
[16:29] <smoser> then closing
[16:29] <smoser> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
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[16:29] <smoser> #info Next meeting Tuesday, 2017-09-12 at 1600 UTC, chair will be ahasenack
[16:29] <ahasenack> o/
[16:29] <smoser> #endmeeting
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[16:29] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep  5 16:29:44 2017 UTC.
[16:29] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-09-05-16.05.moin.txt
[16:29] <ahasenack> thanks smoser
[16:30] <cpaelzer> thanks smoser
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