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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:28
diploMorning all07:38
brobostigonmorning diplo07:59
diploHows things brobostigon ?07:59
brobostigonjust smartened myself up for a job interview, and you?08:00
diploGood lad! Always good to look good, always made a difference for me when interviewing! Back to work after sending kiddos back to school today \o/08:02
brobostigon:) \o/08:02
foobarryshave every face hair :)08:05
foobarryunless it makes you look 3 yrs old08:05
* brobostigon has a fairly well groomed full moustache, i aint shaving that off.08:06
diploDefo wouldn't pass the interview with a moustache!08:07
diplo:P08:07
brobostigon:(08:08
diploWhat times the interview brobostigon ? And what work/role?08:12
brobostigondiplo: 11am, electronics, retail.08:14
diploWell good luck, retail :( but hope it all goes well mate!08:14
brobostigon:)08:15
zmoylan-pifingers crossed you get the position09:53
zmoylan-piand agree about retail... my first job was in retail... i could have endured it if it weren't for the customers...09:55
MooDoohowdy all10:24
ali1234how do i install skype on ubuntu these days?11:53
ali1234get the weird deb from skype.com?11:55
MooDoohttps://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/ yes it's a deb11:56
ali1234does this version support desktop sharing?11:56
MooDoonot sure without looking at the pag11:57
MooDoopage11:57
MooDoodoesn't mention it, so not sure11:58
davmor2hey MooDoo11:58
ali12344.3 (the old one) kind of supports it but the picture always comes out messed up and unreadable11:58
MooDoohttps://askubuntu.com/questions/930004/how-can-i-share-my-screen-with-skype-for-linux-5-3   don't think 5.3 supports it11:59
ali1234i dont want to share my screen, i want to see other peoples - they're using windows11:59
ali1234i note it says "outgoing"11:59
ali1234probably an issue with screenscraping X11:59
diploI believe it sort of works ali1234 - I'm running it I think now, I can test with a colleague for you12:52
diploI think they've removed it, sure I saw it there before12:54
diploAh, I remember now, I can view a shared screen, can't share mine12:56
ali1234that's exactly what i need13:01
ali1234seen on slashdot comments: "Elon is going to end up like Howard Hughes."13:16
ali1234sounds about right...13:16
diddledanspeaking of elon musk. I've got a copy of alien covenant to watch13:40
diddledan(peter weyland was totally modelled on elon, or vicky verky)13:40
diddledanref: https://vimeo.com/5038339213:41
ali1234skype screen share was a total fail. worked for about 5 seconds, then turned into a blocky mess, then froze completely :(13:42
ali1234luckily the firmware updater was just a big "UPDATE" button, nothing complicated13:42
MooDooBig red Button :)13:43
diddledanOF DOOM13:43
ali1234wait is that guy pierce?13:48
ali1234*pearce13:48
ali1234i had no idea he was in those movies13:49
diploHow did your interview go brobostigon  ???15:28
brobostigondiplo: i think nominally well,15:30
diploGood to hear, good luck!15:31
brobostigonfingers and toes crossed.15:31
* diddledan offers good luck hugs16:05
diddledanany excuse for a hug, really16:05
brobostigon:)16:06
davmor2hmmmm popey if you want to freak your kids out, go down aldi get the speaker/led light bulbs replace their lightbulbs and let the fun comence :D16:09
davmor2not that I'm evil or anything16:09
davmor2popey: oh not in stock till Thursday :D16:13
diddledaninteresting developments at konversation: https://blogs.kde.org/2017/09/05/konversation-2x-2018-new-user-interface-matrix-support-mobile-version16:29
diddledaneesh, I've had to turn the lights on already16:33
diddledanwhere did summer go?!16:33
diddledandavmor2: even better would be speaker+led+smart16:34
diddledanmake the lights flicker16:34
diddledanand ghostly wails16:34
diddledanthis is fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpKj4Avjmuo16:35
davmor2diddledan: well plasma-mobile is still a thing so it would be for that I guess :)16:51
marshmnI never knew that there is a ##baseball channel on Freenode20:19
daftykinso rry20:19
daftykinsi tend to just watch it with folk i chat to anyway20:19
zmoylan-pibaseball on irc... oh for the good old days of cricket on teletext? :-P20:23
daftykinsi uncovered a Dell PII at a clients today, i was asked to go around all the storage areas and turf out any old gear20:27
daftykinsused to use it as a smoothwall router20:28
zmoylan-piyou could use the case for a rasp pi cluster... :-)20:28
diddledanomg, snotwall is a name I've not heard in a long time!20:29
diddledanare they even still going?!20:29
* diddledan googlies20:29
zmoylan-piso old, even i've heard of it :-P20:29
daftykinsmight be, not sure about as a free product20:30
daftykinslast release 201420:30
diddledanoh god, they've gone corporate20:30
zmoylan-pihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmoothWall20:31
m0nkey_diddledan: do I buy this? https://store.netgate.com/SG-3100.aspx20:32
daftykinspreorder o020:33
diddledanwtf is mikrobus?20:33
m0nkey_daftykins: yes, it's a pre-order.20:34
m0nkey_Coming out in October20:34
daftykinsi wouldn't fancy getting in on something early20:35
m0nkey_diddledan: seems to be some kind of addon thing. like bluetooth, nfc all that crap. probably never use it.20:35
m0nkey_I've been following this for a long time. It pushes GbE speeds without breaking a sweat.20:39
diddledanlooks quite decent20:39
diddledanI like the fact you can add storage via m.220:39
m0nkey_That is handy. Plus drop in a LTE modem for backup :)20:40
daftykinspssh maybe if you can get a decent low rate plan20:42
m0nkey_Doubtful in Canada lol20:42
diddledanso smoothwall are currently running linux 3.1620:45
diddledanfrom their forum: "linux 3.16 was released during August 2014, thus Update8/SP3 may not support the latest hardware"20:45
daftykinsheh20:46
diddledanno poo, sherlock!20:46
daftykins'cause you're totally buying a ryzen box for a router20:46
daftykins;D20:46
diddledanwell, I was thinking about it20:46
diddledan:-p20:46
zmoylan-piit's new, it's shiny...20:48
daftykinszmoylan-pi: i played with the nokia 3310 2017 edition today!20:49
daftykinsno SIM though so couldn't see much20:49
diddledanhave you seen the size of those threadripper packages?!20:49
zmoylan-pisince i found it has a link to opera app store i'm gonna have to look, but i now realise there's at least 2 different versions.  different in size when you see them together...20:49
diddledanabout twice the surface area of an i9: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fr1ZlUu8v_Q/maxresdefault.jpg20:50
daftykinsdiddledan: yeah, but then there's a layout of 2 x 2 and only 2 are real silicon! it's a faaaaaake! </DS9>20:50
diddledano_O20:51
daftykinsy'seen that?20:51
daftykinsnot DS9, the 2 x 2 layout20:51
daftykinshttp://cdn.overclock.net/c/c0/500x1000px-LL-c08df673_article-630x354.90c8d2d6.jpeg20:52
diddledanso they've put four on the package but only two light up?20:52
daftykinsnah two are just dumb silicon i think that's just meant for contact20:53
daftykinsbut it suggested that maybe they could put 4 real ones on the single package, mmm20:53
daftykinsassuming there's actually enough pins and gubbins for all that20:53
diddledanI'm not understanding the "dumb silicon" bit20:53
daftykinsso not an actual fabbed chip but just a piece of metal20:53
diddledanwhy not just leave it off entirely though?20:54
zmoylan-pidifferent nokias on sale... https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/90517224219101593720:54
daftykinsthink it has some kind of cooling benefit, i forget - maybe it was just that it helps spread the pressure evenly20:56
daftykinsi've no idea where i read that now20:56
diddledanof course, then you get the photoshops: http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11636/dbwthwoxkaeehmw-1.jpg.324b24f4c47236d1eaf463abf6ad95a3.jpg20:56
diddledanI can tell that's shopped because of the pixies20:56
daftykinsi wonder if it's easy to tell if you've tightened the three screws of the socket enough :>20:57
diddledanI think you've probably got a point about the potential for replacing the dead bits with live chips tho20:57
diddledanfutureproof the design upfront save inventing a new socket when you light up the dead zones20:58
diddledanperhaps it has pressure sensors inside the package20:58
diddledan:-p20:59
daftykinsooh hey this looks relevant - https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_clarifies_why_threadripper_uses_4_silicon_dies/120:59
diddledanwhy would you drop a grand on a chip like that and destroy it straight away?!20:59
diddledanthat der8auer must have money up the wazoo to cope with dropping that loss21:00
daftykinsheh delidding is common to get some proper cooling on there, obviously some crazy overclocker21:01
daftykinsthere are scare stories of high end cooling solutions causing IHS' to pop and destroy everything21:01
diddledanwat: "Analysts at Kerrisdale Capital Investments have predicted that AMD will file for bankruptcy in 2020"21:04
diddledanoh, that article is two years old21:04
diddledaneven more wat then :-p21:04
daftykinsheh21:05
diddledananalysts are a strange bunch trying to justify their existence by inventing random crud21:05
daftykinsdid y'see intel have been scared enough to bump the new generation i7 to be a 6 core, 12 thread instead of stay 4/8 ?21:06
diddledanI hadn't21:06
daftykinscoffee lake iirc21:06
diddledandoesn't surprise me - amd really upped their game21:06
daftykinsmm, still trailing in a lot of ways i felt though (from benchmark glancing)21:07
daftykinsi can't really claim to do multithreaded stuff for AMD to apply to me21:07
diddledanI wonder what they're like for compiling21:07
* diddledan unwraps a gentoo :-p21:07
daftykinsput that penguin down!21:07
diddledanhttps://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-warzone-2100/200123:07
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