[07:28] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:38] <diplo> Morning all
[07:59] <brobostigon> morning diplo
[07:59] <diplo> Hows things brobostigon ?
[08:00] <brobostigon> just smartened myself up for a job interview, and you?
[08:02] <diplo> Good lad! Always good to look good, always made a difference for me when interviewing! Back to work after sending kiddos back to school today \o/
[08:02] <brobostigon> :) \o/
[08:05] <foobarry> shave every face hair :)
[08:05] <foobarry> unless it makes you look 3 yrs old
[08:06]  * brobostigon has a fairly well groomed full moustache, i aint shaving that off.
[08:07] <diplo> Defo wouldn't pass the interview with a moustache!
[08:07] <diplo> :P
[08:08] <brobostigon> :(
[08:12] <diplo> What times the interview brobostigon ? And what work/role?
[08:14] <brobostigon> diplo: 11am, electronics, retail.
[08:14] <diplo> Well good luck, retail :( but hope it all goes well mate!
[08:15] <brobostigon> :)
[09:53] <zmoylan-pi> fingers crossed you get the position
[09:55] <zmoylan-pi> and agree about retail... my first job was in retail... i could have endured it if it weren't for the customers...
[10:24] <MooDoo> howdy all
[11:53] <ali1234> how do i install skype on ubuntu these days?
[11:55] <ali1234> get the weird deb from skype.com?
[11:56] <MooDoo> https://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/ yes it's a deb
[11:56] <ali1234> does this version support desktop sharing?
[11:57] <MooDoo> not sure without looking at the pag
[11:57] <MooDoo> page
[11:58] <MooDoo> doesn't mention it, so not sure
[11:58] <davmor2> hey MooDoo
[11:58] <ali1234> 4.3 (the old one) kind of supports it but the picture always comes out messed up and unreadable
[11:59] <MooDoo> https://askubuntu.com/questions/930004/how-can-i-share-my-screen-with-skype-for-linux-5-3   don't think 5.3 supports it
[11:59] <ali1234> i dont want to share my screen, i want to see other peoples - they're using windows
[11:59] <ali1234> i note it says "outgoing"
[11:59] <ali1234> probably an issue with screenscraping X
[12:52] <diplo> I believe it sort of works ali1234 - I'm running it I think now, I can test with a colleague for you
[12:54] <diplo> I think they've removed it, sure I saw it there before
[12:56] <diplo> Ah, I remember now, I can view a shared screen, can't share mine
[13:01] <ali1234> that's exactly what i need
[13:16] <ali1234> seen on slashdot comments: "Elon is going to end up like Howard Hughes."
[13:16] <ali1234> sounds about right...
[13:40] <diddledan> speaking of elon musk. I've got a copy of alien covenant to watch
[13:40] <diddledan> (peter weyland was totally modelled on elon, or vicky verky)
[13:41] <diddledan> ref: https://vimeo.com/50383392
[13:42] <ali1234> skype screen share was a total fail. worked for about 5 seconds, then turned into a blocky mess, then froze completely :(
[13:42] <ali1234> luckily the firmware updater was just a big "UPDATE" button, nothing complicated
[13:43] <MooDoo> Big red Button :)
[13:43] <diddledan> OF DOOM
[13:48] <ali1234> wait is that guy pierce?
[13:48] <ali1234> *pearce
[13:49] <ali1234> i had no idea he was in those movies
[15:28] <diplo> How did your interview go brobostigon  ???
[15:30] <brobostigon> diplo: i think nominally well,
[15:31] <diplo> Good to hear, good luck!
[15:31] <brobostigon> fingers and toes crossed.
[16:05]  * diddledan offers good luck hugs
[16:05] <diddledan> any excuse for a hug, really
[16:06] <brobostigon> :)
[16:09] <davmor2> hmmmm popey if you want to freak your kids out, go down aldi get the speaker/led light bulbs replace their lightbulbs and let the fun comence :D
[16:09] <davmor2> not that I'm evil or anything
[16:13] <davmor2> popey: oh not in stock till Thursday :D
[16:29] <diddledan> interesting developments at konversation: https://blogs.kde.org/2017/09/05/konversation-2x-2018-new-user-interface-matrix-support-mobile-version
[16:33] <diddledan> eesh, I've had to turn the lights on already
[16:33] <diddledan> where did summer go?!
[16:34] <diddledan> davmor2: even better would be speaker+led+smart
[16:34] <diddledan> make the lights flicker
[16:34] <diddledan> and ghostly wails
[16:35] <diddledan> this is fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpKj4Avjmuo
[16:51] <davmor2> diddledan: well plasma-mobile is still a thing so it would be for that I guess :)
[20:19] <marshmn> I never knew that there is a ##baseball channel on Freenode
[20:19] <daftykins> o rry
[20:19] <daftykins> i tend to just watch it with folk i chat to anyway
[20:23] <zmoylan-pi> baseball on irc... oh for the good old days of cricket on teletext? :-P
[20:27] <daftykins> i uncovered a Dell PII at a clients today, i was asked to go around all the storage areas and turf out any old gear
[20:28] <daftykins> used to use it as a smoothwall router
[20:28] <zmoylan-pi> you could use the case for a rasp pi cluster... :-)
[20:29] <diddledan> omg, snotwall is a name I've not heard in a long time!
[20:29] <diddledan> are they even still going?!
[20:29]  * diddledan googlies
[20:29] <zmoylan-pi> so old, even i've heard of it :-P
[20:30] <daftykins> might be, not sure about as a free product
[20:30] <daftykins> last release 2014
[20:30] <diddledan> oh god, they've gone corporate
[20:31] <zmoylan-pi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmoothWall
[20:32] <m0nkey_> diddledan: do I buy this? https://store.netgate.com/SG-3100.aspx
[20:33] <daftykins> preorder o0
[20:33] <diddledan> wtf is mikrobus?
[20:34] <m0nkey_> daftykins: yes, it's a pre-order.
[20:34] <m0nkey_> Coming out in October
[20:35] <daftykins> i wouldn't fancy getting in on something early
[20:35] <m0nkey_> diddledan: seems to be some kind of addon thing. like bluetooth, nfc all that crap. probably never use it.
[20:39] <m0nkey_> I've been following this for a long time. It pushes GbE speeds without breaking a sweat.
[20:39] <diddledan> looks quite decent
[20:39] <diddledan> I like the fact you can add storage via m.2
[20:40] <m0nkey_> That is handy. Plus drop in a LTE modem for backup :)
[20:42] <daftykins> pssh maybe if you can get a decent low rate plan
[20:42] <m0nkey_> Doubtful in Canada lol
[20:45] <diddledan> so smoothwall are currently running linux 3.16
[20:45] <diddledan> from their forum: "linux 3.16 was released during August 2014, thus Update8/SP3 may not support the latest hardware"
[20:46] <daftykins> heh
[20:46] <diddledan> no poo, sherlock!
[20:46] <daftykins> 'cause you're totally buying a ryzen box for a router
[20:46] <daftykins> ;D
[20:46] <diddledan> well, I was thinking about it
[20:46] <diddledan> :-p
[20:48] <zmoylan-pi> it's new, it's shiny...
[20:49] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: i played with the nokia 3310 2017 edition today!
[20:49] <daftykins> no SIM though so couldn't see much
[20:49] <diddledan> have you seen the size of those threadripper packages?!
[20:49] <zmoylan-pi> since i found it has a link to opera app store i'm gonna have to look, but i now realise there's at least 2 different versions.  different in size when you see them together...
[20:50] <diddledan> about twice the surface area of an i9: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fr1ZlUu8v_Q/maxresdefault.jpg
[20:50] <daftykins> diddledan: yeah, but then there's a layout of 2 x 2 and only 2 are real silicon! it's a faaaaaake! </DS9>
[20:51] <diddledan> o_O
[20:51] <daftykins> y'seen that?
[20:51] <daftykins> not DS9, the 2 x 2 layout
[20:52] <daftykins> http://cdn.overclock.net/c/c0/500x1000px-LL-c08df673_article-630x354.90c8d2d6.jpeg
[20:52] <diddledan> so they've put four on the package but only two light up?
[20:53] <daftykins> nah two are just dumb silicon i think that's just meant for contact
[20:53] <daftykins> but it suggested that maybe they could put 4 real ones on the single package, mmm
[20:53] <daftykins> assuming there's actually enough pins and gubbins for all that
[20:53] <diddledan> I'm not understanding the "dumb silicon" bit
[20:53] <daftykins> so not an actual fabbed chip but just a piece of metal
[20:54] <diddledan> why not just leave it off entirely though?
[20:54] <zmoylan-pi> different nokias on sale... https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/905172242191015937
[20:56] <daftykins> think it has some kind of cooling benefit, i forget - maybe it was just that it helps spread the pressure evenly
[20:56] <daftykins> i've no idea where i read that now
[20:56] <diddledan> of course, then you get the photoshops: http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11636/dbwthwoxkaeehmw-1.jpg.324b24f4c47236d1eaf463abf6ad95a3.jpg
[20:56] <diddledan> I can tell that's shopped because of the pixies
[20:57] <daftykins> i wonder if it's easy to tell if you've tightened the three screws of the socket enough :>
[20:57] <diddledan> I think you've probably got a point about the potential for replacing the dead bits with live chips tho
[20:58] <diddledan> futureproof the design upfront save inventing a new socket when you light up the dead zones
[20:58] <diddledan> perhaps it has pressure sensors inside the package
[20:59] <diddledan> :-p
[20:59] <daftykins> ooh hey this looks relevant - https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_clarifies_why_threadripper_uses_4_silicon_dies/1
[20:59] <diddledan> why would you drop a grand on a chip like that and destroy it straight away?!
[21:00] <diddledan> that der8auer must have money up the wazoo to cope with dropping that loss
[21:01] <daftykins> heh delidding is common to get some proper cooling on there, obviously some crazy overclocker
[21:01] <daftykins> there are scare stories of high end cooling solutions causing IHS' to pop and destroy everything
[21:04] <diddledan> wat: "Analysts at Kerrisdale Capital Investments have predicted that AMD will file for bankruptcy in 2020"
[21:04] <diddledan> oh, that article is two years old
[21:04] <diddledan> even more wat then :-p
[21:05] <daftykins> heh
[21:05] <diddledan> analysts are a strange bunch trying to justify their existence by inventing random crud
[21:06] <daftykins> did y'see intel have been scared enough to bump the new generation i7 to be a 6 core, 12 thread instead of stay 4/8 ?
[21:06] <diddledan> I hadn't
[21:06] <daftykins> coffee lake iirc
[21:06] <diddledan> doesn't surprise me - amd really upped their game
[21:07] <daftykins> mm, still trailing in a lot of ways i felt though (from benchmark glancing)
[21:07] <daftykins> i can't really claim to do multithreaded stuff for AMD to apply to me
[21:07] <diddledan> I wonder what they're like for compiling
[21:07]  * diddledan unwraps a gentoo :-p
[21:07] <daftykins> put that penguin down!
[23:07] <diddledan> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-warzone-2100/2001