| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 05:11 |
|---|---|---|
| ducasse | morning! | 07:00 |
| EriC^^ | morning ducasse ! | 07:03 |
| EriC^^ | how are you? | 07:03 |
| ducasse | hi EriC^^, good thanks - and you? | 07:05 |
| EriC^^ | good too | 07:05 |
| ducasse | enjoying a quiet morning? | 07:06 |
| EriC^^ | sort of | 07:07 |
| ducasse | raining hard here, supposed to get worse later in the day. | 07:08 |
| EriC^^ | cool :) | 07:12 |
| ducasse | i like rain, so suits me fine. the cat isn't too happy, though :) | 07:16 |
| ducasse | hmm, a couple of stuck keys on this laptop... | 07:17 |
| EriC^^ | whatever you do, don't pour alcohol on it | 07:22 |
| EriC^^ | i recently got a stuck space bar, and put some alcohol, waited for like 30mins for it to dry, and turned the laptop back on and the keyboard stopped working, i thought 30mins would be enough and taking the keys off is hard | 07:23 |
| EriC^^ | it's pretty easy to remove the keys, i'm not sure i'd entirely risk it myself, those things are kind of fragile | 07:23 |
| ducasse | i've got compressed air, i'll try that | 07:23 |
| EriC^^ | sounds good | 07:23 |
| ducasse | seems fine now \o/ | 07:25 |
| ducasse | good to start the day with a small victory :) | 07:25 |
| EriC^^ | yay! | 07:27 |
| EriC^^ | :) | 07:27 |
| ducasse | i need to find a place that sells isopropyl alcohol, i need to clean off some old thermal paste | 07:29 |
| ducasse | haven't found any locally, and i assume it's not ok to ship it by post | 07:30 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:38 |
| ducasse | hi lordievader | 07:41 |
| ducasse | all well? | 07:41 |
| EriC^^ | hi lordievader | 07:45 |
| lordievader | Hey ducasse, EriC^. Doing good here, trying to figure our some vim + tmux issue. | 07:49 |
| lordievader | How are you guys doing? | 07:49 |
| EriC^^ | doing good here thanks | 07:50 |
| ducasse | all quiet on this front | 07:51 |
| lordievader | :) | 07:57 |
| brunch | heya | 10:46 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 11:02 |
| brunch | howdy BluesKaj | 11:08 |
| brunch | I'm trying out ubuntu 17.10 | 11:08 |
| brunch | feels like it offers better performance that fedora | 11:08 |
| brunch | except for gnome, gnome is pretty terrible | 11:08 |
| BluesKaj | Hi brunch, yeah been testing fedora 26 KDE spin, not too impressed with nvidia driver support :/ | 11:17 |
| brunch | games run ok in fullscreen mode | 11:18 |
| brunch | but there's this odd stuttering when loading new resources | 11:18 |
| brunch | on ubuntu gnome fullscreen doesn't give you good performance | 11:19 |
| brunch | but that might be the bug I'm experiencing using multiple monitors | 11:19 |
| brunch | can't disable the main one unless I do it manually with xrandr | 11:19 |
| BluesKaj | gonna give F27 KDE a try to see how it compares to Kubuntu Artful Beta 1, and so far beta1 has held up very nicely...not a gamer but movies run fine in vlc with my legacy gt218 gpu | 11:20 |
| BluesKaj | think i need to start planning a new pc build ...some of my HW is becoming left behind support-wise | 11:29 |
| daftykins | ooh-err | 11:32 |
| daftykins | hi all \o | 11:32 |
| BluesKaj | hey daftykins | 11:32 |
| brunch | I'm going to get an amd computer next | 11:32 |
| brunch | nvidia is such a headache for me | 11:33 |
| daftykins | err that's a really bad idea, AMD is in a far worse situation than nvidia | 11:33 |
| brunch | is it? | 11:33 |
| brunch | What about those vegas? | 11:33 |
| daftykins | even if you got working drivers they're only decent for compute tasks | 11:33 |
| daftykins | the driver situation on Linux is very messy right now - and since 16.04 | 11:34 |
| BluesKaj | I'm gona go with an intel cpu next time. maybe an i5 , amd is ok, but not up to speed IMO | 11:34 |
| brunch | :/ | 11:34 |
| BluesKaj | been running amd for over 10yrs | 11:34 |
| daftykins | what problems do you have with nvidia? should be just 1) install OS, 2) install binary driver, 3) enjoy | 11:35 |
| brunch | my two biggest complains is having the system hang completely with mesa | 11:36 |
| brunch | aaaaaand its current incompatibility with wayland | 11:36 |
| BluesKaj | nvidia drivers are fine on kubuntu, fedora has a dependency pros with vidpau and nvidia-340 driver conflits | 11:36 |
| BluesKaj | conflicts rather | 11:36 |
| BluesKaj | and a very messy repos scheme | 11:37 |
| daftykins | have to agree with you there on the intel choice, BluesKaj - AMD may have finally made something decent but all the early adopters have essentially paid to help iron out the bugs for AMD | 11:38 |
| daftykins | brunch: ah i don't much care for anything until it's stable and mainstream :) | 11:38 |
| brunch | also, it feels like nvidia is being a huge burden in the open source community | 11:38 |
| brunch | it's like consuming nvidia I'm harming gamers | 11:39 |
| BluesKaj | daftykins, yeah that new amd cpu seems buggy from a lot of reports | 11:39 |
| daftykins | *nod* firmware updates to resolve RAM compatibility woes, yikes | 11:45 |
| daftykins | kernel panics or hard locks early on with Linux | 11:45 |
| brunch | isn't amd reclaiming? | 11:46 |
| daftykins | reclaiming what? | 11:52 |
| brunch | their faulty processors | 11:53 |
| daftykins | they're not faulty, they just pushed them out the door before they'd refined components of the motherboard BIOS' | 11:55 |
| daftykins | they just so desperately needed a win | 11:55 |
| brunch | oh | 11:55 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, and amd certainly mucked up ati gpu linux support after buying them out | 12:47 |
| nacc | it's interesting that some lappy vendors are starting to do amd lappys again | 15:08 |
| daftykins | i've not had a good experience using one before, tbh... be they X2's from the past or A8/A10 and so on | 15:09 |
| EriC^^ | i was kind of excited for ryzen mobile cpu's | 15:10 |
| EriC^^ | (laptop) | 15:11 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening to all guys | 17:40 |
| ducasse | hi lotuspsychje | 17:42 |
| brunch | evening, lotuspsychje | 17:42 |
| ducasse | been at work? | 17:42 |
| lotuspsychje | hey ducasse and brunch | 17:42 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: 2 days off, but been city walking/shopping | 17:42 |
| lotuspsychje | tomorrow order a w10 + office for a customer | 17:43 |
| lotuspsychje | updating artful :p | 17:44 |
| brunch | I'm on artful! | 17:47 |
| brunch | I'm trying to have both gnome and openbox running | 17:47 |
| lotuspsychje | http://imgur.com/a/nWNk4 | 17:47 |
| brunch | can't get to start openbox if it isn't from the login screen | 17:47 |
| lotuspsychje | nice one brunch how you love it? | 17:47 |
| brunch | I really really like artful | 17:47 |
| lotuspsychje | same here | 17:48 |
| brunch | I used to be on fedora because the newer packages | 17:48 |
| brunch | but now I see artful actually has even newer packages | 17:48 |
| brunch | ! | 17:48 |
| brunch | man, screw selinux :P | 17:48 |
| lotuspsychje | brunch: like wich? | 17:48 |
| brunch | like git | 17:48 |
| lotuspsychje | !info git artful | 17:48 |
| brunch | git's 2.14 here, it was 2.13 in fedora | 17:48 |
| ubot5` | git (source: git): fast, scalable, distributed revision control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.14.1-1ubuntu3 (artful), package size 3814 kB, installed size 32288 kB | 17:48 |
| lotuspsychje | cewl | 17:48 |
| brunch | I'm just spotting a couple of bugs in gnome | 17:49 |
| lotuspsychje | feel free to share url? | 17:49 |
| lotuspsychje | i only found 2 in all stages | 17:49 |
| brunch | like changing the multi-screens at system settings | 17:49 |
| brunch | it just laughs at me and does nothing | 17:49 |
| lotuspsychje | and 1 was early | 17:49 |
| lotuspsychje | brunch: perhaps with the Xwayland? | 17:50 |
| brunch | so I'm just using xrandr to disable my laptop screen to use the hdmi one as primary | 17:50 |
| brunch | that seems to work | 17:50 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah or arandr | 17:50 |
| brunch | also, there's this thing in gnome3 which forces vertical sync so games run like arse unless they're fullscreen in fedora | 17:51 |
| brunch | but fullscreen doesn't work in ubuntu either, it's always terrible framerate :/ | 17:51 |
| brunch | it does work fine in openbox though, so there's that | 17:51 |
| brunch | I want to launch it with startx but screen gets no output... | 17:52 |
| brunch | Wish I knew more about how startx works | 17:52 |
| lotuspsychje | brunch: might be of wayland not ready yet? | 17:52 |
| brunch | is ubuntu using xwayland already? | 17:52 |
| lotuspsychje | brunch: found few screen glitches here aswell | 17:52 |
| brunch | I'm not using wayland... I think | 17:53 |
| lotuspsychje | brunch: ps -e | grep X | 17:53 |
| nacc | brunch: it is an option, and will be the default (iirc) | 17:53 |
| brunch | yeah I'm using X | 17:53 |
| brunch | not a big fan of wayland yet since the nvidia drivers didn't work in fedora | 17:54 |
| brunch | although they are a lot more recent in the ubuntu ppas so... who knows! | 17:54 |
| lotuspsychje | brunch: you seeing indicators yet in right upper corner in gnome? | 17:55 |
| lotuspsychje | brunch: got them enabled by gnome-tweak-tool but not seeing anything there | 17:55 |
| lotuspsychje | evening EriC^^ | 17:56 |
| EriC^^ | evening lotus | 17:56 |
| EriC^^ | how's it going | 17:56 |
| EriC^^ | ? | 17:56 |
| lotuspsychje | great here, playing with artful desktop :p | 17:56 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: http://imgur.com/a/nWNk4 | 17:56 |
| EriC^^ | looks good (Y) | 17:57 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx | 17:57 |
| EriC^^ | there's a movie out 8/10 imdb | 17:59 |
| brunch | lotuspsychje, yeah! Try telegram | 17:59 |
| EriC^^ | "maze" | 17:59 |
| EriC^^ | about a prison break, true story | 18:00 |
| EriC^^ | i tried to d/l it from zooqle.com today but the actual file was a different movie | 18:00 |
| lotuspsychje | looks good | 18:01 |
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| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: there's another prison movie i wanna see aswell | 18:01 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: its about a guy that becomes criminal in prison | 18:01 |
| EriC^^ | older movie? | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | no will come out soon i think | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | shot caller | 18:02 |
| EriC^^ | aha cool | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4633690/ | 18:03 |
| lotuspsychje | i just love prison movies :p | 18:03 |
| EriC^^ | ah i saw it | 18:03 |
| EriC^^ | i mean the d/l | 18:03 |
| lotuspsychje | and any good? | 18:03 |
| lotuspsychje | ah | 18:03 |
| EriC^^ | it's been out for a while | 18:03 |
| EriC^^ | try this maybe https://zooqle.com/%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%83-shot-caller-2017-bdrip-avc-%D0%BE%D1%82-hellywood-itunes-wdq1y.html | 18:04 |
| lotuspsychje | gonna look both, maze looks awesome | 18:04 |
| EriC^^ | direct streaming here http://movienight.ws/shot-caller-2017/ | 18:05 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic | 18:13 |
| ubot5` | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.93.98 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB | 18:13 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl | 18:56 |
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