[05:11] good morning to all [07:00] morning! [07:03] morning ducasse ! [07:03] how are you? [07:05] hi EriC^^, good thanks - and you? [07:05] good too [07:06] enjoying a quiet morning? [07:07] sort of [07:08] raining hard here, supposed to get worse later in the day. [07:12] cool :) [07:16] i like rain, so suits me fine. the cat isn't too happy, though :) [07:17] hmm, a couple of stuck keys on this laptop... [07:22] whatever you do, don't pour alcohol on it [07:23] i recently got a stuck space bar, and put some alcohol, waited for like 30mins for it to dry, and turned the laptop back on and the keyboard stopped working, i thought 30mins would be enough and taking the keys off is hard [07:23] it's pretty easy to remove the keys, i'm not sure i'd entirely risk it myself, those things are kind of fragile [07:23] i've got compressed air, i'll try that [07:23] sounds good [07:25] seems fine now \o/ [07:25] good to start the day with a small victory :) [07:27] yay! [07:27] :) [07:29] i need to find a place that sells isopropyl alcohol, i need to clean off some old thermal paste [07:30] haven't found any locally, and i assume it's not ok to ship it by post [07:38] Good morning [07:41] hi lordievader [07:41] all well? [07:45] hi lordievader [07:49] Hey ducasse, EriC^. Doing good here, trying to figure our some vim + tmux issue. [07:49] How are you guys doing? [07:50] doing good here thanks [07:51] all quiet on this front [07:57] :) [10:46] heya [11:02] Howdy folks [11:08] howdy BluesKaj [11:08] I'm trying out ubuntu 17.10 [11:08] feels like it offers better performance that fedora [11:08] except for gnome, gnome is pretty terrible [11:17] Hi brunch, yeah been testing fedora 26 KDE spin, not too impressed with nvidia driver support :/ [11:18] games run ok in fullscreen mode [11:18] but there's this odd stuttering when loading new resources [11:19] on ubuntu gnome fullscreen doesn't give you good performance [11:19] but that might be the bug I'm experiencing using multiple monitors [11:19] can't disable the main one unless I do it manually with xrandr [11:20] gonna give F27 KDE a try to see how it compares to Kubuntu Artful Beta 1, and so far beta1 has held up very nicely...not a gamer but movies run fine in vlc with my legacy gt218 gpu [11:29] think i need to start planning a new pc build ...some of my HW is becoming left behind support-wise [11:32] ooh-err [11:32] hi all \o [11:32] hey daftykins [11:32] I'm going to get an amd computer next [11:33] nvidia is such a headache for me [11:33] err that's a really bad idea, AMD is in a far worse situation than nvidia [11:33] is it? [11:33] What about those vegas? [11:33] even if you got working drivers they're only decent for compute tasks [11:34] the driver situation on Linux is very messy right now - and since 16.04 [11:34] I'm gona go with an intel cpu next time. maybe an i5 , amd is ok, but not up to speed IMO [11:34] :/ [11:34] been running amd for over 10yrs [11:35] what problems do you have with nvidia? should be just 1) install OS, 2) install binary driver, 3) enjoy [11:36] my two biggest complains is having the system hang completely with mesa [11:36] aaaaaand its current incompatibility with wayland [11:36] nvidia drivers are fine on kubuntu, fedora has a dependency pros with vidpau and nvidia-340 driver conflits [11:36] conflicts rather [11:37] and a very messy repos scheme [11:38] have to agree with you there on the intel choice, BluesKaj - AMD may have finally made something decent but all the early adopters have essentially paid to help iron out the bugs for AMD [11:38] brunch: ah i don't much care for anything until it's stable and mainstream :) [11:38] also, it feels like nvidia is being a huge burden in the open source community [11:39] it's like consuming nvidia I'm harming gamers [11:39] daftykins, yeah that new amd cpu seems buggy from a lot of reports [11:45] *nod* firmware updates to resolve RAM compatibility woes, yikes [11:45] kernel panics or hard locks early on with Linux [11:46] isn't amd reclaiming? [11:52] reclaiming what? [11:53] their faulty processors [11:55] they're not faulty, they just pushed them out the door before they'd refined components of the motherboard BIOS' [11:55] they just so desperately needed a win [11:55] oh [12:47] yeah, and amd certainly mucked up ati gpu linux support after buying them out [15:08] it's interesting that some lappy vendors are starting to do amd lappys again [15:09] i've not had a good experience using one before, tbh... be they X2's from the past or A8/A10 and so on [15:10] i was kind of excited for ryzen mobile cpu's [15:11] (laptop) [17:40] good evening to all guys [17:42] hi lotuspsychje [17:42] evening, lotuspsychje [17:42] been at work? [17:42] hey ducasse and brunch [17:42] ducasse: 2 days off, but been city walking/shopping [17:43] tomorrow order a w10 + office for a customer [17:44] updating artful :p [17:47] I'm on artful! [17:47] I'm trying to have both gnome and openbox running [17:47] http://imgur.com/a/nWNk4 [17:47] can't get to start openbox if it isn't from the login screen [17:47] nice one brunch how you love it? [17:47] I really really like artful [17:48] same here [17:48] I used to be on fedora because the newer packages [17:48] but now I see artful actually has even newer packages [17:48] ! [17:48] man, screw selinux :P [17:48] brunch: like wich? [17:48] like git [17:48] !info git artful [17:48] git's 2.14 here, it was 2.13 in fedora [17:48] git (source: git): fast, scalable, distributed revision control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.14.1-1ubuntu3 (artful), package size 3814 kB, installed size 32288 kB [17:48] cewl [17:49] I'm just spotting a couple of bugs in gnome [17:49] feel free to share url? [17:49] i only found 2 in all stages [17:49] like changing the multi-screens at system settings [17:49] it just laughs at me and does nothing [17:49] and 1 was early [17:50] brunch: perhaps with the Xwayland? [17:50] so I'm just using xrandr to disable my laptop screen to use the hdmi one as primary [17:50] that seems to work [17:50] yeah or arandr [17:51] also, there's this thing in gnome3 which forces vertical sync so games run like arse unless they're fullscreen in fedora [17:51] but fullscreen doesn't work in ubuntu either, it's always terrible framerate :/ [17:51] it does work fine in openbox though, so there's that [17:52] I want to launch it with startx but screen gets no output... [17:52] Wish I knew more about how startx works [17:52] brunch: might be of wayland not ready yet? [17:52] is ubuntu using xwayland already? [17:52] brunch: found few screen glitches here aswell [17:53] I'm not using wayland... I think [17:53] brunch: ps -e | grep X [17:53] brunch: it is an option, and will be the default (iirc) [17:53] yeah I'm using X [17:54] not a big fan of wayland yet since the nvidia drivers didn't work in fedora [17:54] although they are a lot more recent in the ubuntu ppas so... who knows! [17:55] brunch: you seeing indicators yet in right upper corner in gnome? [17:55] brunch: got them enabled by gnome-tweak-tool but not seeing anything there [17:56] evening EriC^^ [17:56] evening lotus [17:56] how's it going [17:56] ? [17:56] great here, playing with artful desktop :p [17:56] EriC^^: http://imgur.com/a/nWNk4 [17:57] looks good (Y) [17:57] tnx [17:59] there's a movie out 8/10 imdb [17:59] lotuspsychje, yeah! Try telegram [17:59] "maze" [18:00] about a prison break, true story [18:00] i tried to d/l it from zooqle.com today but the actual file was a different movie [18:01] looks good === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [18:01] EriC^^: there's another prison movie i wanna see aswell [18:01] EriC^^: its about a guy that becomes criminal in prison [18:02] older movie? [18:02] no will come out soon i think [18:02] shot caller [18:02] aha cool [18:03] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4633690/ [18:03] i just love prison movies :p [18:03] ah i saw it [18:03] i mean the d/l [18:03] and any good? [18:03] ah [18:03] it's been out for a while [18:04] try this maybe https://zooqle.com/%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%83-shot-caller-2017-bdrip-avc-%D0%BE%D1%82-hellywood-itunes-wdq1y.html [18:04] gonna look both, maze looks awesome [18:05] direct streaming here http://movienight.ws/shot-caller-2017/ [18:13] !info linux-image-generic [18:13] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.93.98 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB [18:56] bbl === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon