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* linux_user says: Hello everyone! I am looking to temporarily disable my touch screen in Ubuntu Linux (16.04). I tried doing an xinput -list and then "xinput disable DEVICE", and it worked for about 5 minutes and then somehow the device got enabled again. Any ideas of how I could temporarily disable it (absent it coming back on without my telling it too), but not surviving a reboot is fine for me too.00:04
sourceslayerHEyo00:21
psychoticwarriorwhats up sourceslayer00:22
sourceslayerCould someone recommend some good back up software? I'll be using an external harddrive that'll mostly be disconnected.00:24
sourceslayerAny recommendation is experienced, I had something in mind like Time Machine on an apple device00:25
kenrinI like backula00:27
bazhang!info backintime-common | sourceslayer00:27
ubottusourceslayer: backintime-common (source: backintime): simple backup/snapshot system (common files). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.12-1 (zesty), package size 228 kB, installed size 1293 kB00:27
kenrinYou could just use rsync if one system is all you got00:28
sourceslayerThanks, I'll look into those.00:29
yao_ziyuanby default, is zesty-backports enabled in Software and Update?00:30
kenrinPretty sure they are00:32
* linux_user says: Hello everyone! I am looking to temporarily disable my touch screen in Ubuntu Linux (16.04). I tried doing an xinput -list and then "xinput disable DEVICE", and it worked for about 5 minutes and then somehow the device got enabled again. Any ideas of how I could temporarily disable it (absent it coming back on without my telling it too), but not surviving a reboot is fine for me too.00:33
Tobaso I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS00:37
TobaI have my launcher running on the left side of the window, always hidden unless I select it00:37
TobaI have an alert from Software Updater00:37
TobaI click it and nothing happens00:37
TobaI right click it and select "Software Updater" from the menu that comes out00:37
Tobanothing happens00:37
TobaI can `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade` just fine, but the GUI tool appears to be good at00:37
Tobaa) making a notification00:38
Tobab) not letting me act on it00:38
TobaIs there any particular log I should post? Is this something I should file a bug for?00:38
bazhangToba, first, dont use enter as punctuation, thats impossible to read00:39
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kenrinNeed to check if you have a virtual desktop|workspace it is hiding in first.  Sounds like it is working normally00:39
TobaI have 4 virtual desktops and it does not appear on any of them.00:40
TobaIt doesn't appear in the alt-tab app switching list either, on any of them00:41
kenrinWell I don't have any other ideas but I don't think a bug report will help unless you can reproduce it on a fresh install.  Might want to see if it happens on a new user00:48
TheWildhello00:54
TheWildI switched to tty and stopped lightdm (sudo service lightdm stop) to minimize risk of system hanging.00:54
TheWildyeah, but when switching between ttys, I accidentally hit Ctrl+Alt+F700:55
TheWildnow I can't switch to any tty00:55
TheWildtty was meant to be an emergency feature, right?00:58
TheWildthen it's f.ing needed right now!00:59
JosuGTheWild: Either your input driver is stuck or your system has crashed. Can you SSH to the stuck system over the network?01:17
linux_userTheWild: Are you using Unity?01:36
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fishcookeri want to see what files are currently being cached02:02
Pinkamena_DWhen I turn off and on the hardware 'wireless' switch on my laptop, the device shows hard blocked. Using rfkill to enable does not work, the only way I have found is to restart. Obviously I don't care about the feature but sometimes the switch gets hit accidentally.02:37
Tobalol02:42
Pinkamena_DAnother unrelated question: when switching display setups, the settings (resolution, DPI, position) are not remembered. Is there any was to store these settings?02:42
Tobaif ubuntu only accepts bug reports if they're replicable on a fresh install, it'll end up in a pretty buggy state pretty quick02:42
number28Hi guys. I just installed nvidia driver, however when running lspcii I see i have my intel integrated running kernel driver: i915 and my geforce 770m kernel driver running nvidia. I think this is causing a issue.. can anyone help me solve?02:44
usr13Pinkamena_D: So the hardware switch will turn disable WiFi ok, but will not work to turn it back on again?  Is that what you are saying?02:44
usr13Pinkamena_D: You can not use the switch to turn it back on again?02:45
Pinkamena_Dusr13: yes02:45
Pinkamena_Dusr13: the start in rfkill list stays as 'hard blocked: yes'02:46
usr13Pinkamena_D: So you can not use the switch to turn it back on again?02:46
Pinkamena_Dno02:47
Pinkamena_Dwhen the switch is back in the 'on' position, it still shows as hard blocked02:47
usr13Pinkamena_D: Is there also a key on the keboard for WiFi?02:47
Pinkamena_DBluetooth works: becomes hard blocked when switch is 'off' and comes back up properly when switch is 'ono'02:48
Pinkamena_D'on'02:48
Pinkamena_Dwifi only disables but never resumes02:48
Pinkamena_DThere is no Fn key combo for wifi, no02:48
usr13Pinkamena_D: Not sure what to make of it.  If it turns it off, it should turn it back on again. Not sure what you could do about it.02:49
Pinkamena_Dusr13: hopefully something :) I dont want to restart everytime the switch gets hit by accident.02:50
usr13It may be a hardware problem.02:50
Pinkamena_Dusr13: driver is ath5k but I also tried an iwlwifi mini-pcie card, and same issue persisted.02:50
usr13Pinkamena_D: What WiFi device is it?  (What does lspci say about it?)02:51
usr13Pinkamena_D: And what is the make and model of the laptop?02:52
number28Hi guys. I just installed nvidia driver, however when running lspcii I see i have my intel integrated running kernel driver: i915 and my geforce 770m kernel driver running nvidia. I think this is causing a issue.. can anyone help me solve?02:52
Pinkamena_Dusr13: Its a thinkpad t60: card is  AR242x / AR542x  Qualcomm Atheros currently02:53
usr13Pinkamena_D: https://www.google.com/search?q=AR542x+arch+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-802:58
usr13I have never understood why a laptop would have a switch for WiFi.03:00
usr13... seems to me that what ever network management software you have would allow you the option to use WiFi or not use it.03:01
usr13And if the switch no longer funcions normally, I'd assume it's a hardware issue.03:02
Jojerohi03:16
Jojerohows adobe CC 2015 on play on linux?03:16
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JojeroHi?03:31
JojeroHows adobe CC 2015 in play on linux?03:32
questionmarkhi03:36
questionmarki have a netbook without a screen, i don't know how, but was configured to use a secodary screen, today don't recognize the second screen in graphical mode, how can i configurete <x server manually ?03:38
questionmark exit03:54
jayjohow can I detect what my system thinks a keystroke is inputted as? In inkscape I'm trying to delete something with the delete key, but I don't know how ubuntu is processing my keyboard03:57
mindofmateoI followed the advice TJ- gave me and it seemed to work:  my desktop stopped freezing when I suspended it, but then it did it again, and then it happened while I was still using the computer and logged in and everything.  What would cause my system to just freeze like that?  I have no idea what the problem is, let alone how to search for solutions.04:00
mindofmateo16.04 LTS04:00
mindofmateoI tried to sign into a website and then, nothing.  The mouse, keyboard, network, everything completely unresponsive.  The monitors were on this time, because it happened before I it was locked or suspended, but the display was fixed and did not react to anything I tried.04:02
nbastinis there an easy way to enable serial console login from a preseed file?04:02
Jojerowhere's the location of amtlib of adobe photoshop on play on linux?04:22
AlphaOmegaIs there a channel for Lubuntu?04:26
Flannel#lubuntu, or here04:26
AlphaOmegaTy04:27
AlphaOmegaMy ram overflows frequently, I can't use some applications because of it... Is there a solution possible?04:30
saryAlphaOmega: How mcuh RAM is there, how many CPU cores runnin'! and does the system have a swapfile/parition? Also, check the CPU useage ratios.05:13
AlphaOmega4 GB ram.. 2 physical (4 logical) cores.05:19
AlphaOmegaAn 8 GB swap file on HDD05:20
AlphaOmegaCPU usage usually stays around 40% maxinum05:20
AlphaOmegaBut suddenly, at rare occasions (when everything freezes up) CPU jumps to 80% or higher for about 1-3 seconds05:21
saryAlphaOmega: You may adjust swappiness and disk cache. other than that if you have ubuntu with unity or Gnome, you may wish to try ubuntu with a lighter desktop environments, like Xubuntu, lubuntu.05:21
saryAlphaOmega: what are the apps that mostly running, and do you happen to have many broswer tabs open and browser extensions!?05:23
lotuspsychje!info preload | AlphaOmega try this also05:23
ubottuAlphaOmega try this also: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (zesty), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB05:23
nbastinAlphaOmega: when the CPU spikes to 80%, do you know what processes were using CPU?05:26
AlphaOmega@sary usually it's a game with Firefox (easily reproducible)05:30
Jojero_are all of the user here are Programmers?05:30
AlphaOmegaBut in exceptional cases, the game itself causes it05:30
AlphaOmeganbastin processes like base Lubuntu daemons and steam and dota and maybe evince + pcmanfm05:31
AlphaOmegalotuspsychje: what does it do/how to configure it?05:31
lotuspsychjeAlphaOmega: just install and reboot05:31
AlphaOmegaHope it works05:32
hateballJojero_: I doubt it, I am not05:33
hateballJojero_: There are language specific channels if you need help with programming, this channel is for Ubuntu support05:33
Jojero_can you give me to that channel?05:33
Jojero_for web development?05:33
hateball!alis | Jojero_05:36
ubottuJojero_: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"05:36
Jojero_okay let me check it out05:39
BUSYhello friends.  i am experiencing a crash about 2x per week and unfortunately i am always away when it happens.  i can not find anything in particular of interest in /var/log/syslog, is there anything else i should be looking at to determine the cause?05:48
hateballBUSY: is it a full system crash, or only X ?05:49
hateballBUSY: you can look at ~/.xsession-errors05:50
BUSYfull crash. all services go down05:50
BUSYit does appear to restart automatically, however05:51
BUSYbut ssh and apache do not start again, which is the real bummer. i may have to configure them to start with the system05:52
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SteeevOwhere are the default python paths set in ubuntu05:53
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lotuspsychjesteven: whereis python06:00
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SteeevOlotuspsychje: in /usr/bin06:01
SteeevOfor some reason on one machine everything works fine but on another I need to permanently add 2 paths and set LD_LIBRARY_PATH06:02
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Johnson1977can anyone help me with a networking issue06:19
Johnson1977I have a staticly configured ethernet, that needs to provide the connected device with the internet from the wifi06:20
Johnson1977but as soon as I connect to the ethernet, I lose the internet on my pc06:20
nbastinJohnson1977: so the ethernet and wifi are on the same machine, and the wifi gives you access to the internet?06:23
Johnson1977Correct06:23
nbastinJohnson1977: what is the configuration of both interfaces (wifi and ethernet)06:23
Johnson1977Wifi has default settings, ethernet is configured to manual/static06:24
nbastinit sounds like the ethernet configuration is putting in a competing route or blowing up your wifi subnet, but we'll need your config to see06:24
nbastin"default" settings aren't a thing.. :-)06:24
nbastinwhat IPs and subnets do they have?06:24
Johnson1977Sorry im linux beginner06:24
nbastinNo worries, I presume wifi is on dhcp?06:24
Johnson1977Yes06:24
Johnson1977the ethernet IP is 10.10.10.1306:24
nbastinCan you tell me the IP address of both interfaces?06:24
Johnson1977subnet 255.255.255.25506:24
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Johnson1977Wifi IP is 192.168.1.5, subnet 255.255.255.006:25
nbastinso the subnet of your ethernet is not going to work for your remote device, but I think that's not your current problem06:25
illuminatedhow do you reinstall a package and all of its dependencies06:25
nbastin(it needs to be at least 255.255.255.252, but depending on how many devices are on the other side you'll need more)06:26
nbastinJohnson1977: can you give me the output of "ip route"?06:26
Johnson1977default via 192.168.1.1 dev wlp4s0 proto static metric 60006:27
Johnson197710.10.10.13 dev enp3s0f1 proto kernel scope link src 10.10.10.13 metric 10006:27
Johnson1977169.254.0.0/16 dev wlp4s0 scope link metric 100006:27
Johnson1977192.168.1.0/24 dev wlp4s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.5 metric 60006:27
Ben64illuminated: you said it's configured statically.... how did you do that? and did you set a default gateway06:27
nbastinhrm, I dunno why you are losing your internet given that route table06:27
Johnson1977actually now its working06:28
Johnson1977let me reset to what I had before06:28
Johnson1977right06:28
Johnson1977with this settings, I still have wifi internet06:28
Johnson1977but cannot connect the device thru ethernet06:29
nbastinright, that's because your ethernet is misconfigured.. :-)06:29
Johnson1977onlything that i didnt put in is gateways06:29
nbastinwe can deal with that06:29
nbastinyou need to change the subnet size06:29
nbastindon't put in a gateway06:29
Johnson1977if I put gateway on the ethernet, I can connect to the device06:29
nbastin255.255.255.255 means that the ethernet IP is the *only* IP on that LAN06:29
Johnson1977but will then lose internet06:29
nbastinyes but that's sortof a side effect of the route affecting the netmask06:30
nbastinyou don't need a gateway06:30
nbastinwhat IP does the other device have?06:30
Johnson197710.10.10.1006:30
nbastinok, so you need to make your netmask 255.255.255.006:31
Ben64how did you configure the ethernet statically06:31
nbastinand the 10.10.10.10 device needs 10.10.10.13 to be its gateway06:31
Ben64nbastin: no06:31
Ben64no gateway06:31
nbastinBen64: his *other* device06:32
Ben64still no06:32
nbastinHe said he wanted it to access the internet, I thought06:32
Ben64oh, not from how i understood it06:32
nbastinyou may be right, I may have made that up.. :-)06:32
Ben64it is a bit confusing though06:32
Ben64i'm thinking <internet>--wifi--<pc1>---ethernet---<pc2>06:33
Johnson1977I have the other device at IP 10.10.10.10 and Gateway 10.10.10.1306:33
nbastinJohnson1977: does the other device need to access the internet, or just the PC?06:33
Ben64and pc2 is just there to be accessed local only06:33
nbastinthat would certainly be easier.. :-)06:33
Johnson1977other device needs internet too06:33
Ben64well then06:33
Ben64!ics06:34
nbastinwell, ok, so the first thing you need to do though is still change the ethernet netmask on pc106:34
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing06:34
Johnson1977o wait a second06:34
Johnson1977its working?06:34
Johnson1977i changed subnet06:34
nbastinok06:34
nbastinif you already configured NAT, then it might just work06:34
Johnson1977let me just see if it has internet06:34
Johnson1977O IT WORKS!06:35
Johnson1977IM SAVED06:35
Johnson1977MY CARREERR06:35
Ben64protip - just buy a usb wireless adapter next time06:35
Johnson1977Thanks guys06:37
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FuraiHey, is there a way to refresh ubuntu without really reinstalling anything? Ever since I've upgraded 16.04 to 17.04 all seems to be significantly slower than it was. I did that when 17.04 was released so quite few months ago.08:11
MacroManI've several warning after upgrading 'linux-firmware'. Are they anything to worry about?: https://paste.ngx.cc/545744018a9ad5c808:13
MacroManNamely: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/ast_dp501_fw.bin for module ast08:14
brainwashFurai: create a new user account and see if it's affected also08:14
Furaibrainwash, and if it is? Is there a way to refresh installation? If not I'll just live with what I have till 18.04 and then do kind of clean install.08:15
brainwashFurai: mmh, 17.10 will be released soon08:16
brainwashFurai: did you check the system log? also, what exactly is slower?08:17
FuraiStartup of various programmes.08:17
brainwashI guess testing with a new user account is the way to go then08:18
brainwashother than that, I think you can do a clean installation while keeping your files in /home08:19
FuraiYeah, that's what I meant about "kind of clean" install.08:19
FuraiAnyway, thanks.08:20
brainwashMacroMan: I would ask in #ubuntu-kernel08:24
MacroManbrainwash: Thanks08:24
brainwashMacroMan: maybe you will have to file a bug report08:24
MacroManIt might not be a problem, but I can't find much about it online08:24
brainwashright. these messages are "only" warnings08:25
brainwashcould be more to it08:25
MacroManWhy I'm here08:25
pax_rhoshello08:48
pax_rhosI have python2 and python3 installed, I need python3-dev, can I safely install it without it affecting the currently installed packages?08:49
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brainwashyou should be able to08:50
brainwashor, why do you think it would affect the other packages?08:51
reza-irdevhi09:02
reza-irdevhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/169737709:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1697377 in Ubuntu "Change TextBoxes Direction for RTL languages" [Undecided,Confirmed]09:04
JojeroHi09:18
JojeroIm back09:18
JojeroHow to access the amtlib file in play on linux?09:18
brainwashJojero: I suggest asking in #playonlinux09:20
Jojerooh sorry09:20
olleharI can't install libglib-2.009:26
olleharThe following packages have unmet dependencies: libglib2.0-dev : Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.40.0-2) but 2.40.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed                  Depends: libglib2.0-bin (= 2.40.0-2)E: Unable to correct  problems, you have held broken packages.butlibglib2.0-bin is already the newest version.andlibglib2.0-0 is already the newest version09:27
olleharI get this cute error.09:27
olleharanyone has any idea?09:27
olleharusing xubuntu09:27
hateballollehar: sounds like you are using PPAs with conflicting depends09:30
olleharyeah09:30
olleharhateball: question is how to solve it09:30
ollehartried autoremove, clean, dist-upgrade, update/upgrade, -f install09:30
hateballollehar: apt cache <package> to see which repo it tries to pull from09:31
hateballerr.. apt policy <package>09:31
hateballand then you can adjust your PPAs accordingly, if possible09:31
olleharinvalid operation?09:31
olleharmaybe run full-upgrade...09:32
hateballapt full-upgrade is the same as apt-get dist-upgrade09:33
olleharah09:33
iticushello! how can I create a bootable USB drive with Ubuntu desktop that I can boot on an old iMac?09:34
iticusall tutorials I found online are for creating a drive from Mac OS X but I don't have access to a running Mac OS X at the moment09:35
adacWhere do I set global ENV variables that survive a system reboot?09:54
EriC^^adac: /etc/environment i guess?09:54
g105bI performed apt full-upgrade this morning and suddenly mysql will not start. Here's the logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25477217/ I've purged mysql* and reinstalled and still the same issue. Please can someone help me troubleshoot the issue?09:55
adacEriC^^, k will have a look at it thanks09:56
Ben64g105b: have you rebooted09:58
corentinghostcube: https://askubuntu.com/questions/175704/unable-to-start-mysql-server-after-update09:58
g105bBen64: do I need to?09:58
ghostcubeit wasnt me :D09:59
g105bBen64: joke. obviously rebooted.09:59
ghostcubebut thx09:59
corentinghostcube: woops sorry09:59
corenting105b: https://askubuntu.com/questions/175704/unable-to-start-mysql-server-after-update09:59
ghostcube:D09:59
g105bcorentin: I've been on that thread already ( I tend to reboot and Google for issues before asking in IRC ) but I couldn't see any answer that was specific to my question. Could you enlighten me which answer is relevant?10:00
corenting105b: first try to reboot the whole box, then try the only answer marked as solving the problem10:01
g105bcorentin: rebooted ✓ I'm not using a custom mysql mount point, so marked answer is not appropriate. After purging mysql, no file at /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld. After installing again, file seems ok at first glance: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25477304/10:03
g105bNo sign of anything overlapping, but there shouldn't be because this is a fresh install of mysql.10:03
corenting105b: right about mount point, I missed taht fact10:04
corenting105b: no errors during install of mysql-server?10:05
corentinas in https://askubuntu.com/questions/900064/mysql-not-starting-due-to-errors10:05
corenting105b: could you pastebing output of this command please: sudo journalctl -xe -u mysql10:07
g105bcorentin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25477485/10:09
g105bcorentin: no errors apart from post-install when the service tries to start again.10:10
olleharhateball: don't I know you from #limesurvey?10:11
corenting105b: what about: sudo ln -s /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld /etc/apparmor.d/disable/usr.sbin.mysqld10:12
corentinand then reinstall mysql-server10:12
hateballollehar: I lurk here and there :)10:13
hateballollehar: did you get the problem sorted?10:13
JojeroHi can anyone help me :(10:16
hateball!ask | Jojero10:16
ubottuJojero: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:16
Jojerowhere can I find the directory of adobe illustrator? :(10:16
hateballUh... there's no Adobe Illustrator for Linux10:16
JojeroI just use play on linux :(10:17
corentinJojero: prolly in your windows drive in ~/.wine/10:17
JojeroI ask in different channel but they ask for payment before they tell me :/10:17
EriC^^Jojero: try find ~/ -iname "*adobe*"10:17
g105bJojero: It'll be in ~/PlayOnLinux10:17
Jojerothanks so much :)10:18
Jojeroyou guys are the best <310:18
hateballOT: Asking for payment on IRC is pretty... shady10:18
Jojeroyea :/10:18
Jojerohe's username is rindolf10:18
Jojerogtg guys, thanks so much <3 ^_^10:19
Ben64hateball: i've had people voluntarily ask for my paypal and send me money for helping ¯\_(ツ)_/¯10:19
EriC^^you guys are doing it for free? what? j/k10:20
corentinBen64: neat!10:20
g105bcorentin: well I still have no mysql, only solution is install Windows.10:20
Ben64well that isn't a solution10:20
Jojerowhat?10:20
Jojeromysql wont work in linux??10:20
g105bNot on my linux.10:20
JojeroI was gonna go to linux so I can do web dev10:20
hateballBen64: Yes, but that's a rather opposite thing :p10:20
Jojero:( sad10:20
Jojeroso I cant do wordpress :/10:21
Ben64g105b: service apparmor stop ?10:21
corenting105b: good luck then!10:21
ducasseJojero: of course mysql works on linux10:21
Jojerois it good to move to linux? Im taking a backend career path :)10:21
Ben64Jojero: up to you10:21
Jojerooh :) I hope I do the right thing ..10:22
JojeroI can move back anytime since I have the digital entitlement.. :D10:22
Jojero:/ I did vagrant but Im not comfortable with it though10:24
JojeroI want to have a native linux machine.10:25
Ben64go for it10:25
Jojero:) i hope photoshop works great ..10:25
Jojerolater guys :)10:26
hateballJojero: Moving to Linux to run Windows applications is perhaps not the greatest thing you can do10:30
corentinJojero: hateball is right, you would probably get a terrible user experience from doing that10:31
corentinunless you can run your windows soft in a VM maybe10:31
Jojerothanks guys :)10:37
g105b_corentin: I can't figure this out, I've ended up running mysql inside docker to get me going... might have a look at the problem again one day but for now I'm up and running, albeit through a virtualisation service.10:39
c06anyone have experience with maas in vbox10:54
BluesKajHowdy folks11:02
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AnticomHi all. I'm looking for a decent cross-OS password manager. Does anybody have any experience with https://www.enpass.io/apps/linux/ yet and can share their oppinion about it?11:34
OolAnticom: keepassX ?11:35
olleharhateball: nope, no solution yet. I need it to compile rofi, but any other launcher (that works with openbox) will do, if you happen to know one.11:35
nuked0neHi11:35
AnticomFor example enpass is advertising 256Bit AES encryption... However i thought that one was broken already, wasn't it?11:35
nuked0neHow can I add Eclipse to appear in my Development section?11:35
Anticomnuked0ne: Development section?11:36
nuked0ne http://i.imgur.com/qfapRYg.png11:36
nuked0nehere11:36
nuked0nealong with other IDEs11:36
hateballollehar: Sorry cant help you there, I am Plasma exclusive :p11:36
AnticomWhat flavor of Ubuntu is that nuked0ne ?11:37
nuked0neAnticom: it's ubuntu xfce11:37
olleharhateball: ok, thanks anyway11:37
Anticomnuked0ne: Just guessing that this might help maybe? : http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.de/2013/03/how-to-add-application-launcher-to.html11:38
AnticomOh no nvm11:38
c06anyone have maas experience.?11:38
Anticomnuked0ne: i meant this one: http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.de/2011/12/add-items-to-xfce-applications-menu.html11:39
hateball!maas11:39
ubottuMetal as a Service is a dynamic server provisioning service for scalability. See more about it at https://maas.ubuntu.com.11:39
WhirHi, I try to run ipython on Ubuntu 16.04 with python 3, and I get these gtk* import errors11:39
Whir I traced it to "ImportError: No module named 'gobject' "11:39
hateballhmmm, could have sworn there was an IRC channel for it11:39
Whirbut I installed python3-gi11:39
Whirwhat works is "from gi.repository import GObject as gobject "11:39
c06hateball: its there but its not active11:39
Whirbut matplotlib still complains11:39
nuked0neAnticom: what should the command be? I tried 'eclipse' but it's not11:41
nuked0neI mean Exec=Command11:41
Anticomnuked0ne: depends on how you 'installed' eclipse11:41
nuked0neAnticom: I downloaded it from the website11:41
Anticomif it's in your PATH, you can find its location using 'which eclipse'11:41
nuked0neAnticom: not apt-get11:41
Anticomnuked0ne: well then you should know where you've placed it11:41
nuked0neyes I know where it is11:42
Anticomuse a full path11:42
Anticominstead of just 'eclipse'11:42
Anticomor in your .bashrc, .profile etc. put export PATH=/path/to/eclipse/:$PATH11:42
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nuked0nehey it worked11:47
nuked0nethanks a lot Anticom!11:47
techsynthi guys have issue https://askubuntu.com/questions/928997/gnome-unable-to-install-extention , i did what they told but it didn't help me11:47
blueboyanyone here running a distro with the dell xps 13 9360 ?11:59
swenssonAnyone know how to make alias myAlias=sudo last reboot?12:12
brainwashswensson: add it to ~/.bashrc12:13
brainwashblueboy: what do you want to know exactly?12:13
swenssonbrainwash ah thanks=)12:14
blueboyI believe the issue to be a bios related issue or IPM issue with the USB ports on the xps 1312:15
blueboybasically12:15
blueboyI put the bios in legacy, put the storage controller in AHCI mode12:16
blueboythe live install for ubuntu boots and then it gives me an error after the initial splash that it cant find the live media12:16
blueboy"unable to find medium containing live file system"12:17
blueboyI have verified the usb boots into a live environment on another system as well12:17
brainwashwhich ubuntu release is that?12:17
anchnkhey, how can I determinate if a daemon is either start by systemd or sysinit ? I am running ubuntu 16.0412:18
BluesKajblueboy, how did you create the live image ?12:18
blueboyi have attempted 16.04 and 17.04. I also attempted this with Fedora and had the same issue.12:18
blueboyI used rufus12:18
brainwashanchnk: 16.04 uses systemd by default12:18
blueboyattempted with the standard windows ISO method and dd method, both give the same error12:18
brainwashanchnk: maybe you want to read this https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-sysv-generator.html12:19
blueboyCould it possibly be a TPM issue not allowing 3rd party OS boot even with legacy boot and secureboot turned off ?12:19
BluesKajdid you unmount the device before running dd or rufus12:19
BluesKajblueboy,^12:19
blueboyBlue, yes. I have also teste the usb on another system and it boots successfully12:20
anchnkbrainwash thank you, I am trying to figure it out if my mysql service is either start before or after supervisor12:21
blueboyfrom the research I have done this is acommon issue with the laptop and some users.12:21
anchnkbut yeah I need to dive deeper into the doc12:21
blueboyI see some others having zero issue and others cant figure their way around it.12:21
BluesKajanother system has different settings, in it's BIOS/UEFI, check those and do the same for the problematic one12:22
brainwashanchnk: if you have systemd specific questions, I suggest asking in #systemd12:22
anchnkoh great thankx brainwash12:22
blueboyI have matched accordingly, secureboot disabled, legacy boot, moved from raid to ahci for support12:23
blueboyI think the issue is the usb controller, it doesnt support legacy mode, only 3.012:23
blueboyI have also seen in the logs the controller is being added and removed, spamming12:23
blueboyFrom what I can tell it might be intels power management screwing me12:24
brainwashyou could give ubuntu 17.10 Beta a try12:24
blueboyThat was pretty much my next step12:24
brainwashalso, maybe it's worth to contact the Dell support channels12:24
blueboyThere is an actual ubuntu 14.04 recovery meda for the xps 13 as well, dell has a recover media for it (a dev version of the laptop) Im tryin to get my hands on that as well.12:25
blueboyIts service tag depedent for access to it12:26
blueboyI believe I might complelte nuke the table on the nvme storage12:29
blueboyI still kinda suspect the issue to be something related to a TPM issue12:29
blueboyalso its skylake, ive read issue with legacy usb booting issues12:29
blueboykaby lake * derp12:30
Doc-SaintlyIs there a quick way to initialize a new drive? I'd like to quickly format it to ext3/4, the whole disk, and mount it somewhere.12:32
corentinDoc-Saintly: fdisk && mkfs.ext412:34
Doc-Saintlycorentin: yea, but it there a one line :) It seems this is a very common operation12:35
Doc-Saintly"format the whole drive as X and mount at Y"12:35
corentinDoc-Saintly: same answer12:37
Doc-Saintlyok. thanks12:39
BluesKajor use gparted12:45
frostschutzDoc-Saintly, don't use raw drive, always have a partition table, even if it's only one large partition.12:48
fubHi. I installed (l)ubuntu a few months back with disk encryption (just my home folder). a) How do I know which encryption software is used b) how do I change the password?12:48
olleharfollow up question: is the home folder encrypted when the screensaver is locked? or must I log out?12:49
frostschutzfub, if lsblk shows a crypt device, it's probably LUKS, and then you can add / change passwords with cryptsetup luksAddKey / luksChangeKey (better to add first, and remove the old when you are sure you remember the new one)12:49
vltfub: If it's "just the home folder" it might not be disk encryption at all but an encrypted file system.12:50
brainwashfub: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/ecryptfs.html12:51
fubfrostschutz: this is my output: https://dpaste.de/xjR712:51
fubvlt: I am assuming its only the home folder because I can see something under "mount" with ecryptfs12:51
fublike /home/.ecryptfs/myuser/.Private on /home/myuser type ecryptfs12:52
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swenssonIs it possible to run a virtual environment for only photoshop? I don't want to run a complete virtual system, just one app.12:52
vltfub: Yeah, I wouldn't call that disk encryption. So nothing LUKS related applies.12:52
corentinswensson: see wine12:52
fubvlt: okay12:52
cfhowlettpossible yes, but do not expect virtualbox to fully utilize your GPU12:53
frostschutzfub, your output shows you have luks, and swap is even encrypted twice, so if you also have ecryptfs, you have everything in one big encryption mashup12:53
fubvlt: but in the output I posted, why does it say sda5_crypt?12:53
fubew, so its .. double encrypted?12:53
swenssoncorentin Yeah, I've used wine a few times. But that get's access to my systems files? :P12:53
frostschutzfub, changing the password for sda5 would be 'sudo cryptsetup luksAddKey /dev/sda5'12:53
frostschutzfub, yes, kinda ewww.12:53
fubfrostschutz: the lubuntu installer did this12:54
fubI did not setup any additional encryption stuff12:54
fubso when booting my system, I need to type the pw for sda5 I think12:55
fubhow is the home folder (ecryptfs) decrypted then?12:55
frostschutzyea, so if you want to change it, add a new one... see if it works... and a few days later remove the old one. you can read about cryptsetup in any wiki I guess12:55
frostschutzecryptfs uses your regular user login12:56
fubinteresting, so its decrypted when logging in12:56
vltfub: Yes.12:56
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fuball right, thanks for the info12:57
vltfub: This setup might make sense in certain environments where you want both full disk encryption (and a few different people know the passphrase) but addidionally need to protect your home folder.12:58
vltfub: But yes, it needs to be double de- and encrypted everytime :-D12:59
fubok, so next time I'll install, I will be careful not to do this13:00
fubbecause I am the only person working on my computers13:00
OneM_IndustriesSo, my main HDD (/dev/sda) just went read-only. How can worried should I be, and how can I fix this?13:01
frostschutzOneM_Industries, dmesg? smartctl -a /dev/sda?13:02
OneM_Industrieshttps://pastebin.com/zBmt8v1m13:05
OneM_IndustriesJust remembered, main hdd is actually /dev/sdb.13:05
OneM_Industrieshttps://pastebin.com/dQ8cMnsD <--dmesg output13:06
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nikola_ihi, i am trying to use nvidia drivers on my optimus laptop. do i need nvidia-prime?13:15
frostschutzOneM_Industries, it has pending (unreadable) sectors. according to the self test log, those were found over 2000 power-on-hours ago. (extended offline, read failure at 24628 lifetime hours, current 27094)13:23
frostschutzOneM_Industries, if you don't have a backup, get a new drive, ddrescue.13:23
* linux_user says: Hello everyone! I am looking to temporarily disable my touch screen in Ubuntu Linux (16.04). I tried doing an xinput -list and then "xinput disable DEVICE", and it worked for about 5 minutes and then somehow the device got enabled again. Any ideas of how I could temporarily disable it (absent it coming back on without my telling it too), but not surviving a reboot is fine for me too.13:24
mmansoI had to register myseld in nickserv and I'm not sure if my question was received by the cannel...13:55
mmansoI'm using ubuntu 17.04 and I've connected a USB display to it. It works fine but the USB display is treated as an "extension" of my main display.13:55
bumbaris there any hope to recover (even partially) files deleted with "rm -rf"?13:55
mmansoCan't I make it a separate screen?13:55
EriC^^!recover | bumbar look into photorec13:56
ubottubumbar look into photorec: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery13:56
GivenToCodeanyone familiar with the fuse package? I upgraded to 2.9.7 and now /etc/fuse.conf is owned by the utempter group and no longer the fuse group. Does this make sense?14:00
SuperLagAnyone run into issues upgrading to the latest msyql lately?14:17
yeeveWhat's the best PPA for ffmpeg? I've seen a few listed in random posts and just wonder which is the "up-to-date" one. I'm using 17.04 for what it's worth14:17
SuperLaghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25478468/14:18
loganrunI am trying the following command "apt-get install --reinstall libdrm-amdgpu1", but get the error pkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libdrm-common_2.4.83+git20170905.d55d0804-0ubuntu0ricotz~16.04.1_all.deb (--unpack):trying to overwrite '/usr/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids', which is also in package libdrm-amdgpu1:amd64 2.4.82+git20170725.3876bc24-0ubuntu0ricotz~16.04.114:21
loganrunbasically I want to upgrade the package libdrm which wants to install libdrm-common, but there seems to be this circular reference to the file amdgpu.ids. not sure what to do14:21
NexiuHello. I have bought cloud server with ubuntu, now I login as su and do apt-get install gnome - how can I connect to gui when it install it?14:23
vltSuperLag: There were other users a few hours ago with similar problems.14:24
ducasse!vnc | Nexiu14:26
ubottuNexiu: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX14:26
ducasseNexiu: ...but that is really not the way to use a cloud server, the common thing is to use ssh14:27
Nexiuducasse: but I have bought access for few hours to check that I can run 8 android emulator on it14:27
Nexiuon my pc I can run only 4 emulators14:28
SuperLagvlt: was anyone able to get it resolved?14:29
metaphysicianHello, can I make NetworkManager's embedded dnsmasq cache DNS results?14:47
bumbarhow can i delete all non text files in directory in terminal?14:59
TJ-bumbar: do you mean all files with names not ending in ".txt", or by their actual content (as reported by 'file' for example) ?15:03
bumbarreported by file15:03
corentinbumbar: find path/to/your/directory -type f -not -iname '*.txt' -print0 | xargs -0 rm --15:04
corentinoh15:04
corentinbumbar: then I would write a tiny script which calls command 'file' on $1 (first param), and rm the file if not text, and call that script with find15:05
AlphaOmegaWhat daemon is it that auto fetches pages that might be asked for?15:07
AlphaOmegaSome software called preload is it?15:07
corentinAlphaOmega: you mean memory pages?15:07
naccAlphaOmega: prefetch15:07
naccAlphaOmega: i think that's what it is on RH15:08
AlphaOmegaPrefetch is it?15:08
naccAlphaOmega: why do you ask?15:08
AlphaOmegacorentin: yes15:08
AlphaOmegaEarlier today I mentioned about the issue with my RAM being overflowed on Lubuntu15:09
corentinAlphaOmega: I'm not 100% sure, but I would tend to think the kernel is handling this15:10
naccAlphaOmega: you want your RAM to be full15:10
AlphaOmegaNo15:10
naccAlphaOmega: so I'm not sure what your issue is, can you summarize?15:10
AlphaOmegaBecause when it almost reaches full (83%) and some new action/activity starts, the system freezes for 2-15 seconds15:11
naccAlphaOmega: that sounds like you are swapping15:11
naccAlphaOmega: and have a slow hdd15:11
AlphaOmegaDuring this time, the CPU (usually at around 20-40% utilization) jumps to above 85% and the system freezes15:11
AlphaOmegaYes.. I'm swapping with a slow hdd15:11
naccAlphaOmega: ok, prefetch/preload won't really help with swap15:12
AlphaOmegaSwap space is 2x of Ram but still, the process is slow15:12
naccit will *add* load to your disk15:12
AlphaOmegaEw15:12
AlphaOmegaNope.. that won't help at all15:12
AlphaOmegaSo, is there a way to reduce this thrashing?15:12
naccAlphaOmega: you can reduce the swappiness of the kernel, but there are consequences15:13
corentinAlphaOmega: add more ram or consume less ram hehe15:13
corentinAlphaOmega: or optimize the program running to consume less15:13
AlphaOmegaI can't consume less, unless I know how to limit an application from over using the ram15:14
AlphaOmegaCan one do that?15:14
corentinAlphaOmega: ulimit15:14
AlphaOmeganacc: I've tried reducing the swappiness, it stays on longer, but when the freeze hits, it's in minutes...15:14
corentinAlphaOmega: what are you actually doing?15:15
AlphaOmegaChecking out ulimit15:15
AlphaOmegacorentin: running a game with maybe a few PDFs open and a file manager open? (Evince and pcmanfm)15:15
corentinAlphaOmega: how much ram do you have?15:15
corentinand which game? maybe it has memory leaks or so15:16
AlphaOmegaDotA 2 (process name is dota, with maybe 2 steam and 3 steamwebhelper processes)15:17
corentinAlphaOmega: you could try to profile your system with a memory profiler to see why all the ram is consumed. Alternatively you could setup some monitoring like munin, and make it graph memory consumption of your main programs15:18
AlphaOmegaHow should I do that?15:18
naccAlphaOmega: how much ram?15:18
AlphaOmegaI've never used profilers before15:18
AlphaOmeganacc: 4 GB15:18
AlphaOmegaGoes away in 2 matches -> 1h 50m15:19
AlphaOmegaOr maybe before, since it starts lagging and freezing after15:19
corentinAlphaOmega: guess it's easier to setup munin15:20
AlphaOmegaWow.. munin looks great!15:21
corentinAlphaOmega: there's a plugin called multimemory, not sure it is shipped by default15:26
TuTizzhi there, I have got an unsolved question on my ubuntu server. My "/var/log/upstart/" folder size is really huge, I can't even access to it with a cd or ls it. "logrotate -d -v /etc/logrotate.conf" stop at "reading config file upstart". The output of "cat /var/lib/logrotate/status" https://pastebin.com/un4fdhX715:27
TuTizzIs anyone got an idea?15:28
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TJ-TuTizz: the device is generating lots of virtual ethernet devices?15:30
TJ-TuTizz: could be thousands/millions of logs in the directory15:31
TuTizzTJ-, it could be an issue link to docker15:32
TuTizz?15:32
TuTizzdmesg output : EXT4-fs warning (device md2): ext4_dx_add_entry:2217: inode #2097338: comm logrotate: Directory index full!15:35
TJ-TuTizz: sounds like it. is it permissable to blindly delete all files in that directory, so as to regain some control?15:38
TuTizzI tried to rm -rf but as everything is freezing, I can't be sure if the operation succeeded, I will try it again15:40
TJ-TuTizz: that's expected due to rm causing the btree of the directory to be rebalanced after every call. There's a useful alternative using rsync. See the 1st answer here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/37329/efficiently-delete-large-directory-containing-thousands-of-files15:53
tomeaton17How can I get the pid of a running command which I know the name of for use in a bash script?15:55
TuTizzTJ-, ok thanks15:55
corentintomeaton17: pidof <command>15:56
TJ-tomeaton17: "pidof"15:56
corentintomeaton17: alternatively: ps ax | grep <command>15:56
brainwashpgrep15:56
jojeroanyone know how to fix nvidia x server?16:03
jojeroI already install intel-microcode and nvidia through "additional drivers:16:03
jellyhow do I figure out who wrote https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu and thank them16:12
brainwashjelly: https://github.com/canonical-websites/tutorials.ubuntu.com/blob/master/tutorials/desktop/how-to-verify-ubuntu/how-to-verify-ubuntu.md16:15
tomeaton17Sorry about that my server died. Thanks for the help with those commands.16:22
brunchguys I want to start another session on openbox on a different tty for performance reasons16:33
brunchbut the internet says a thousand different ways; none seem  to work16:34
brunchmaybe they're old16:34
brunchso... how would I do it? startx, xinit...?16:34
usr13   brunch https://askubuntu.com/questions/443418/start-another-gui-on-different-tty16:37
akikbrunch: you can run "startx desktop_startup -- :1" is a virtual terminal as your user16:38
brunchhmmmm... if I'm doing it right then ubuntu is doing it wrong16:39
brunchI better ask around ubuntu+116:39
akikdesktop_startup is for example mate-session16:39
brunchopenbox should do, right?16:39
brunchit's what's displayed in login as an option16:40
akikyou'll know when you find the right script/binary16:40
akikfor kde, it's startkde16:40
brunchright now the screen goes black, and monitor says "no signal"16:41
brunchso it might be yet another nvidia issue16:41
akik:(16:41
brunchakik, if I recall correctly I can use xterm instead of desktop_startup, right?16:42
akikbrunch: i'll test on my machine16:44
brunchthank you :)16:44
akikbrunch: yes :) it opened *just* xterm16:45
brunchnice thanks a lot16:45
brunchmight have something to do with the multiple monitors, I'll fiddle around a bit16:45
akikwith no window manager16:45
_Trullohello16:45
brunchwelcome, _Trullo16:46
_Trulloanyone got a guide how to set static dns on lubuntu 17.04?16:46
akikbrunch: does you xorg crash when you try that?16:46
_TrulloI'm scratching my head here16:46
TJ-_Trullo: depends on which network management tool is being used16:46
TJ-_Trullo: is it desktop, with Network Manager?16:46
akik_Trullo: /etc/network/interfaces ? sorry i can't test16:46
brunchakik, it doesn't seem like it. But the screen doesn't get any feed16:46
_Trullothe dns I have now is 127.0.1.1 and some search thing16:46
_Trullothis is in resolv.conf16:46
akik_Trullo: use dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces16:47
brunchit's fine when I change back to tty2, which has the gnome session16:47
_Trullomy main dns given out by the dhcp is behind a vpn..16:47
brunchalso, I have to use :2 instead of :1 since that's taken already16:47
TJ-_Trullo: well that is just pointint to an instance of the resolver, but that might be managed by Network Manager16:47
TJ-_Trullo: is it desktop or server?16:47
_Trullodesktop16:47
TJ-_Trullo: so there's an applet in the system tray to configure networks and report what is in use?16:47
_TrulloI did sudo rm -f /etc/resolv.conf to remove the symlink, and edited the file to nameserver 8.8.8.816:48
_Trullobut it still changes16:48
TJ-_Trullo: yes, it will, because *Network Manager* is managing it!16:48
_TrulloTJ-, yeah, I can change in there, but it doesn't work anyway..16:48
TJ-_Trullo: you need to configure the Connection in network-manager's applet, set the IPv4 (or IPv6) DNS server settings16:49
_Trullocan I use space between dns's?16:49
_Trulloit's only one line I think, computer at work so I can see it now16:49
TJ-_Trullo: I seem to recall yes, or a comman. The thing is, if you've got the Method set to DHCP and you want to set DNS servers manually, you need to select the Method "DHCP (Addresses only)" and set both the DNS and default gateway16:50
ssarahdoes ubuntu get newer packages than debian?16:50
ssarahif yes, how?16:50
TJ-_Trullo: in NM connections you can also set it to automatically activate a VPN connection when the interface comes up16:51
TJ-ssarah: most releases start by syncing from the Debian archive and then adding Ubuntu patches, but sometimes Ubuntu will carry a different version of a package16:51
_TrulloI'll play with it tomorrow again, been having alot of trouble getting citrix reciever to work, and I think it has to do with the dns..16:52
_TrulloI almost bought a couple of win10 licenses today..16:52
_TrulloTJ-, thanks16:52
TJ-_Trullo: if you can't configure it via Network Manager, you may need to configure it manually. In which case, you need to tell NM  *not* to manage the particular interface in its' config file16:53
TJ-_Trullo: that's why you were seeing /etc/resolv.conf change, because that's a symlink to a network-manager controlled file16:53
_Trulloyeah, but if you remove the symlink it shouldn't update.. I don't understand that..16:54
_TrulloI also installed dnsmasq16:54
TJ-it's a symlink, the system is actually using the file the symlink pointed to16:55
TJ-NM uses a private copy of dnsmasq itself16:55
oerheks_Trullo, just stop the networkmanager service, and do it manually, or use networkmanager. not both..16:56
TJ-_Trullo: if you do "ps -efly | grep resolv" you'll see the private instance of dnsmasq and its command-line, so you can configure what NM tells that via advanced NM config values in the Connections' config file under /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/16:57
TJ-_Trullo: see "man nm-settings" for keys and values16:57
_Trullothe funny thing is I got it to work in ubuntu, then I reinstalled lubuntu, didn't get it to work..16:58
_Trullobut I changed in so many places so I guess I missed one..16:58
_Trullosupersede domain-name-servers in some configfile.. remove dnsmasq in another etc etc,,16:58
oostssarah: and debian works with rolling releases, which ubuntu does not.16:59
ssarahrolling releases? what you mean? ubuntu has versions too.17:01
ssarahi was wondering because these days a lot of stuff doesn't get a package.17:02
ssarahi was trying to install slap, and the normal installation through is not working17:02
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oerheksslap = OpenLDAP server?17:04
naccssarah: please be more specific17:04
naccssarah: slapd is packaged17:04
oerheksslapd indeed17:04
oostssarah: it's rolling release vs. point release. (ubuntu is the latter)17:05
naccin my experience, the use of phrases like "these days" in describing an issue is FUD/PEBKAC17:05
akikssarah: ubuntu also has 389-ds17:05
ssarahI duno what that means, I understand rolling release as: there's only one tree of software be updated. There's no unsupported version.17:14
ssarahBut slap is this: https://github.com/slap-editor/slap17:14
ssarahit looks nice so i was trying to try i tout17:14
ducassessarah: you can't reasonably expect every little thing on github to be in the repos17:16
oostno ssarah, debian keeps updating a release to what they believe is "experimental", "unstable" or "stable". Ubuntu releases a release and that's it.17:16
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ssarahducasse, I understand, but I see lots of popular stuff that is not in debian repositories these days. And if it is it's quite old.17:18
ssarahThey are becoming useless, other than for os specific stuff.17:18
ssarahSo i was thinking if there was a way to fast track stuff.17:18
ssarahI duno.17:18
nacclol17:18
* nacc cites the above comment about FUD17:19
naccssarah: has there been any attempt by any interested party in packaging (.deb or snap) this slap program?17:19
naccssarah: it's not up to a distribution to go find stuff to package17:19
ssarahI see.17:20
TJ-ssarah: if you want it in Debian/Ubuntu, how about doing it yourself, starting with the Debian Mentors programme?17:20
ducassessarah: if you really want a packaged slap, build a snap of it and offer it on the ubuntu store17:20
brainwashyou can easily install it with the npm package manager17:20
brainwashwhat is your issue exactly?17:21
aarizMy terminal isn't starting :(17:22
aarizWHYYYYYYYYY17:22
ssarahIt's just that.. kindly open this page here: https://github.com/blackarch/blackarch/issues See that? On black arch you point to a repo and a way to install the thing, that you get that added to the main repository.17:22
ssarah*and you get17:22
aarizI have to go get xterm > terminal because each time I press CTRL + T or search the searchbar for Terminal, it doesn't open17:23
brainwashmaybe ubuntu isn't for you then ssarah17:23
naccssarah: so use blackarch17:23
aarizany suggestions on what to do?17:23
naccssarah: not sure why this is an ubuntu support topic?17:23
ssarahJust trying to understand stuff. If ubuntu releases newer versions of things and how/if possible to speed that cycle of release up.17:24
ssarahThat's all :)17:24
ssarahI don't remember why I thought arch sucked. I did go back to ubuntu tho XD17:24
naccssarah: a released version of ubuntu will generally never get a new version of a software package17:25
naccssarah: the best counterexample of that is the hwe stack for the kernel and X; but it's generally still true17:25
ducassessarah: do you really _need_ the latest version of everything?17:25
naccssarah: if you want to help get newer versions in the latest release, you can a) file a bug or b) learn to contribute the changes necessary. You can also look into backports for released versions.17:26
brainwasheveryone of you is ignoring this https://github.com/slap-editor/slap#installation17:26
ssarahducasse, for example, I submitted a bug fix request for workrave.. 5 years ago? Still waiting for that bug fix to reach ubuntu. I'm not sure if 17.04 has it but 16.04 doesn't. And it's a pretty annoying bug.17:27
Amm0nssarah, https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=workrave17:29
naccbrainwash: not ignoring it, ssarah asked why it wasn't packaged.17:30
ssarahbrainwash, i tried installing both ways, it's broken somehow, already looking into it. :)17:31
brainwashnacc: if something can be installed this easily, maybe the desire to package is much lower17:32
brandon76k someone help me install winff. marcoceppi.com/p/winff17:32
brainwashin the end, one would have to bug Debian to actually package it17:33
naccbrainwash: agreed, which is why i asked if upstream had tried17:33
ssarahnacc: b) learn to contribute the changes necessary. <- how can i do this?17:34
ssarahbrainwash, i dont like doing curl X | sudo  :/ or using two package managers on the same machine (pip npm etc)17:34
ssarahor that weird perl one17:35
naccssarah: someone pointed you to debian mentors earlier17:35
ducassebrandon76: 'sudo apt install winff'17:36
brainwashI guess snap wouldn't be an option either then17:36
ssarahdebian mentors?17:36
ssarahok, ill google that17:36
ssarahsnap? interesting, never heard of it.17:38
jellybrainwash: thanks!17:41
brandon76ducasse, i did that17:42
naccbrainwash: did it work?17:44
naccbrainwash: sorry, brandon76 --^17:44
brandon76what?17:44
brandon76https://screenshots.debian.net/package/winff17:44
brandon76it installed but it's not showing up in Dash17:44
ssarahThese snaps... they are containers?17:46
naccssarah: squashfs images17:46
naccssarah: the snap itself is -- and then there are various snapd things that restrict the execution17:47
naccssarah: #snappy is a good resource, or their forum17:47
ssarahty ty17:47
GlamdeskHey ducasse, did you hear my update re: Xephyr and such?17:49
GlamdeskI remember somebody was curious what would happen if I tinkered.17:50
alt0idhey17:51
Richard_CavellHi everyone. I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 running on an 11 year old iMac, on the metal. I'm running from command line and get this output: https://ideone.com/kGreEj It still hasn't exited.  Any ideas?17:51
alt0idcan i migrate from debian to ubuntu EZ PZ?17:51
Richard_CavellI'm trying to run Steam (from Valve)17:51
DJonesalt0id: Backup your /home folder and install ubuntu. Copy your backed up home folder and it might well work, you can't migrate directly without reinstalling17:52
naccRichard_Cavell: are you using the one in the multiverse component or actually the one from valve?17:53
Richard_Cavellnacc: multiverse17:53
alt0idDJones: is there a way i can make a particion without deleting anything on the drive?17:53
lotuspsychjehey EriC^^17:55
EriC^^hey lotuspsychje17:55
ducasseGlamdesk: yep, i saw it. any progress?17:56
Glamdeskducasse: Not precisely. Another program *not* in Wine has the same blank blackness, though, so I think I should try a benchmark.17:57
GlamdeskI'm also curious if it could be a problem with the card, and/or if Xephyr can be used from another TTY to make a display that's not a window.17:57
ducasseGlamdesk: the whole point of xephyr is to run as a nested x session, it can't run outside of an x server17:59
GlamdeskAnd xinit doesn't work.18:00
GlamdeskIs there something what presently is supported and does what I want?18:00
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ducasseGlamdesk: 'startx lxsession -- :2' should work, but for some reason it seems to kill my already running x session18:06
GlamdeskYeah, same problem.18:06
GlamdeskWhat about openbox?18:07
Richard_Cavellnacc: This fixed it https://askubuntu.com/questions/771032/steam-not-opening-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts18:07
ducasseGlamdesk: try, i don't want to lose this session ;)18:09
Richard_CavellBy the way, has anyone tried running Windows Steam under WINE?  Does it work okay?18:09
Glamdeskducasse, That's fair, it's my hill to die on anyway.18:10
lotuspsychjeRichard_Cavell: i doubt that would work18:10
lotuspsychjeRichard_Cavell: best stick to ubuntu's steam from repos and play linux steam games18:10
tgm4883windows steam under wine works mostluy18:11
lotuspsychjetgm4883: perhaps smaller, not high end games?18:12
holgerdanskeI am unable to use my Sabrent SATA to USB adapter in Ubuntu 17.04. When I plug it in nothing happens and when I tried gdisk it gave me a "123" error and said it was unable to connect18:12
ducasseGlamdesk: i suspect x dying might be a driver bug, as that should not happen18:12
tgm4883lotuspsychje: plenty of high end games work18:13
Glamdeskducasse: Clarify?18:13
tgm4883lotuspsychje: I've got a decently modified skyrim that I use it for as well as AC4.18:14
lotuspsychjetgm4883: under windows steam?18:14
lotuspsychjevia wine?18:14
tgm4883lotuspsychje: well yes, those don't run on Linux ;)18:15
lotuspsychjetgm4883: nice one18:16
ducasseGlamdesk: i mean it might not happen to you. i'm not even running lxde in my main session, so something must have happened to the x server itself.18:16
lotuspsychjeRichard_Cavell: so seems, like it does work to answer your previous question18:17
tgm4883lotuspsychje: Richard_Cavell https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1944418:18
tgm4883Always check the AppDB :)18:18
lotuspsychjekk18:18
Glamdeskducasse: I kinda suspect it will, but I'll be happy to give it a shot.18:18
lotuspsychjetgm4883: tnx for the clarify and workaround18:18
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Fensterhey guys, I have a new, larger drive coming tomorrow for my linux box, and I am thinking about using clonezilla to clone the drive... but being that I need to resize the partitions, I would do an option that says create the partition table proportionally in the target disk.... is it common for the partitions to increase proportionally or just the main storage partition?18:33
lotuspsychje!partition | Fenster18:34
ubottuFenster: For help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap18:34
Fenstererm18:35
holgerdanskeWould anyone possibly be able to help me get my SATA to USB adapter to work?18:35
holgerdanskeTrying to get some stuff off my old (Windows) hdd18:36
leftyfbholgerdanske: plug it in. Then it should work. type "dmesg" in a terminal to see if it's detected and any possible error messages18:38
holgerdanskeyeah its not starting and I cant find it in all of this https://pastebin.com/r1VvM96e18:40
leftyfbholgerdanske: Prouct: XT1609 is a smart phone18:41
holgerdanskeYeah thats my phone thats charging. Do any of those other ones look like the culprit?18:45
leftyfbholgerdanske: leave the machine running. Unplug the external drive and plug it back in18:47
holgerdanskethe adapter or the drive?18:47
leftyfbholdsworth: also, what sort of drive is this? laptop or desktop? SSD or spinner? Does it have an external power supply?18:47
leftyfbholgerdanske: unplug the adapter from the computer and plug it back in18:47
holgerdanskespinner, desktop drive, the adapter has external power18:48
leftyfbholgerdanske: pastebin dmesg after unplugging it and plugging it back in. If we're not getting anything, I would check your power source and/or the drive or adapter being possibly defective.18:48
holgerdanskeit worked. i just had to use the other usb plug. it has two for some reason18:49
holgerdanskethank you very much18:49
Nexiuwhat should I do when glxinfo give me Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig. I use ubuntu on cloud machine, lspci give: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 544618:52
NexiuIve installed xf86-video-cirrus package18:52
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NexiuWhen I try start Genymotion app it give me also error could not initialize GLX18:55
leftyfbNexiu: your virtual video driver doesn't support GLX18:58
psychoticwarriorwhats up19:10
ssarahis it cool to format my machine now and install 17.04 or should i wait for 17.10. or is it super clean to do release upgrade from one to the other?19:19
psychoticwarriori have updated my machine to 17.04. If you get an upgrade for 17.10 update it if you want19:20
psychoticwarriorit works for me :)19:20
psychoticwarriorgo ahead and try it out19:20
psychoticwarriordont run any programs in the background19:20
psychoticwarriorrun software updater or apt update && apt upgrade19:21
brainwashssarah: you could install 17.10 Beta also19:24
NexiuI try use rdp not vnc - now genymotion launch but I get error that my openGL version (1.3) is too old and they advice to update video drivers... so is no way to bypass it, or I can update openGL?19:26
brainwashNexiu: I would ask in ##aws19:33
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cloudbud My prometheus is consuming so much memory how can I pin it up to a core CPU core19:58
un2himStill love ubuntu-mate...not getting into the Solus hype20:02
hamzalatif7Hi I am contacting this support  venu because fail2ban refuses to start I am using ubuntu 14.0420:04
hamzalatif7its on a vps20:04
litchivps? cool20:04
leftyfbhamzalatif7: what is the error you are getting?20:08
hamzalatif7I suppose it would help if i  posted the error hear as well20:08
hamzalatif7hears on what i get when i type sudo service fail2ban restart20:08
hamzalatif7 * Restarting authentication failure monitor fail2ban                           ERROR  Failed during configuration: File contains no section headers.20:09
hamzalatif7file: /etc/fail2ban/jail.conf, line: 120:09
hamzalatif7'\xef\xbb\xbf\r\n'20:09
hamzalatif7                                                                         [fail]20:09
oerheks!paste20:09
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:09
tgm4883hamzalatif7: looks like your jail.conf is malformed20:10
geirhathat's a utf-8 byte order mark20:11
TJ-hamzalatif7: that looks as if the file is using UTF encoding, maybe the text editor you used did that? you can use "iconv" to convert it20:11
geirha(which is a useless, pointless set of three bytes)20:11
TJ-hamzalatif7: did you edit the file on a Windows PC ?20:11
hamzalatif7yeah i was editing it with windows notepad and then sending it back to  the server20:11
geirhanever edit anything in windows notepad ... ever20:12
TJ-hamzalatif7: that'd do it, it's written with UTF-8 encoding and putting in CR/LF characters (the /r/n)20:12
tgm4883hamzalatif7: grab a proper editor for windows like notepad++, sublime or really anything else20:12
hamzalatif7and that also  explains on why i see nothing when i  hear the thing threw notepad20:12
hamzalatif7I say hear since i use a screen reader sure in future I will use notepad 220:12
hamzalatif7ok so will the editers like notepad++ or notepad 2 save it in the propper format so that linux can read it?\20:13
TJ-hamzalatif7: try this: "iconv -t ASCII//IGNORE /etc/fail2ban/jail.conf" and if it looks correct you can save that output and replace the existing file20:13
leftyfbhamzalatif7: you're better off using editors on your server (nano, vim, emacs, whatever)20:14
TJ-hamzalatif7: you can SSH to the server and do: "iconv -t ASCII//IGNORE /etc/fail2ban/jail.conf | sudo tee /etc/fail2ban/jail.conf.ascii"20:15
TJ-hamzalatif7: if the /etc/fail2ban/jail.conf.ascii looks correct you can then move the existing config file to another name, then rename this ASCII file to jail.conf20:16
kneekiI need some help understanding group write permissions. If my user is in the www-data group, why is it that user cannot write to /var/www if 'chmod g+w /var/www' is set?20:21
kneeki /var/www is owned by www-data in the www-data group.20:22
TJ-kneeki: because maybe the user is writing to a sub-dir or /var/www/, or there are additional ACLs set20:22
kneekiYeah, I am writing to a sub dir... Oh... I forgot -R.20:22
TJ-s/or/of/20:22
TJ-kneeki: :: you got it20:23
kneekilol that's it!20:23
kneekixD20:23
kneekiThanks TJ-20:23
TJ-kneeki: could also have been a sub-mount that was read-only20:23
Glamdeskducasse: How would I format a command from TTY1 to use openbox or lxsession there?20:24
GlamdeskWell, actually, that question to anyone.20:24
hamzalatif7just asking what files can linux read20:27
hamzalatif7if its not utf820:28
leftyfbhamzalatif7: linux can "read" all files. The problem is, windows notepad adds Windows-specific garbage to the plain text files. When you've got garbage added to a text config file, the application needing that config file isn't going to be happy about the garbage20:29
hamzalatif7nods ok so il do a search of that garbij that windows has just added since the error is telling me and getrid of it20:30
Vach0n#ubuntu-unregged20:34
Vach0nWoops20:34
Vach0nkrytarik - SASL worked. Thanks :)20:35
krytarikVach0n: I see, cool!20:36
hamzalatif7a question is it possible to completely remove fail2ban and then reinstall it with the  config file newly genorated20:41
Mathisenhamzalatif7, purge it20:47
hamzalatif7thanks20:47
ParkerRIs there a mirror/torrent for the daily artful image? I'm getting about 400KB/s on the main link (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/artful-desktop-amd64.iso)20:50
ParkerRFound one for MATE http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/artful/alpha-2/artful-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent but I was wanting to test te new Gnome changes20:52
ParkerR*the20:52
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tgm4883ParkerR: not for dailies20:57
ParkerRtgm4883, Ahh thanks21:00
ParkerRtgm4883, The metalink references a .torrent which is why I was a little confused21:00
tgm4883There would be little reason to do it for dailies21:00
ParkerRWell at the current speed it's taking over an hour to download. That's reason enough I would think :)21:00
ParkerRtgm4883, Since I was wanting to try on a flash drive anyways, I decided to go a bit different route :) "debootstrap --arch amd64 artful /mnt/usb"21:18
tgm4883ParkerR: You'd need to get enough users to  seed the dailies enough to get the benefits of a fast download, and you'd need to do that every day21:19
ParkerRYeah I figured21:19
tgm4883it's really not feasible. Better off to just download the daily and then use zsync21:19
genii<3 zsync21:23
Snafflei have a question. I am running ubuntu mate 17.10 and I keep receiving internal errors.21:30
Snaffleeverthing is up to date as well21:31
psychoticwarriorsudo dpkg --add-architecture i38621:31
psychoticwarrior sudo apt-get update21:31
psychoticwarrior sudo apt-get upgrade21:31
psychoticwarrior sudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:31
psychoticwarrior reboot21:31
psychoticwarriortry that ^^^21:31
Snaffleok21:31
Snaffleeven if i am running 64bit?21:32
psychoticwarriorhello21:32
psychoticwarrioryea try it out21:32
Snaffleok21:32
psychoticwarriorsee if it works for you21:32
tgm4883Snaffle: don't do that21:33
Snafflelol21:33
tgm4883Snaffle: for starters, for 17.10 you should be in #ubuntu+121:34
Snafflethanks21:35
* Snaffle slaps psychoticwarrior with a large trout21:36
naccpsychoticwarrior: you may react poorly to this again, but please stop giving seemingly random advice.21:36
naccpsychoticwarrior: i have no earthly idea why you'd think adding i386 as a dpkg-architecture would fix totally undescribed internal errors.21:37
ParkerRtgm4883, On a whim I tried changing the zeisty netobot URL to Artfula nd it worked... http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/artful/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ Kinda wish that was advertised ;P21:40
ParkerR*netboot21:40
ParkerR*Artful I cannot type today21:40
oostpsychowarrior what here yesterday at the same time. And also just giving random wrong advise...21:43
oostpsychoticwarrior: ... can you leave?21:45
psychoticwarriorwhy?21:46
oostbecause you don't make sense.21:46
psychoticwarriorhow so?21:47
psychoticwarriormy advice works man21:47
psychoticwarriorit worked on my machine21:47
psychoticwarrioryour just pissed you dont get any girls21:47
GlamdeskYou realize you could get paid to do this, right psychoticwarrior?21:47
psychoticwarriorhow so?21:48
GlamdeskWell, the obvious entry level sorts are the 50 Cent Party, Operation Earnest Voice, etc.21:48
geniipsychoticwarrior: Don't be derogatory or abusive to others in the channel.21:48
psychoticwarriorok21:49
naccgenii: which psychoticwarrior was just told yesterday as well...just fyi21:49
geniinacc: Noted, thanks21:50
psychoticwarriorthis channel is very tight21:50
GlamdeskI mean, being abusive and unhelpful is good money nowadays. You shouldn't do it free.21:51
psychoticwarrioryou guys are so hyper sensitive21:51
GlamdeskHe thinks I'm joking.21:53
GlamdeskAnyway.21:53
naccpsychoticwarrior: this is a support channel. People come here for help, not random advice. Please respect that.21:54
psychoticwarriorit's not random advice. that advice works to fix that problem21:54
psychoticwarriorit worked on my machine21:54
naccpsychoticwarrior: *what* problem?21:55
psychoticwarriorprevious comment above21:55
naccpsychoticwarrior: which you now can't describe?21:55
kenrinAll the problems are fixed by adding i386?21:55
naccpsychoticwarrior: you were on ubuntu mate 17.10 and had 'internal errors'?21:55
GlamdeskThat would be more believable if you didn't back up your confidence with bluster about sex. It's probably good technique, though, so read up and go get paid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_Internet_propaganda21:55
psychoticwarriori got it from a forum21:55
Snafflelol im laughing21:55
ikoniaok - enough now please21:55
ikoniafocus on the support/problems,21:56
psychoticwarrioragreed21:56
psychoticwarriorenough focusing on e21:56
psychoticwarrior,e21:56
GlamdeskNo problem.21:56
psychoticwarriorme21:56
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Guy1524I deleted my swap partition and filled it with my root partition which caused errors on boot, is there a way I can remove any swap configuration from my computer so that it doesn't expect a swap partition to exist22:33
geniiGuy1524: Comment out the line in your /etc/fstab which mounts the swap22:35
Guy1524k thx22:36
Guy1524thank you that worked, my new question is what is happening in this 6 second gap in systemd(I have an SSD and my boot time is noticeabley slower) http://paste.ubuntu.com/25480832/22:39
Amm0nGuy1524, try sudo systemd-analyse blame22:42
Amm0nsry, i mean sudo systemd-analyze blame22:44
Guy1524_I tried a solution on the internet but that did not help22:45
adrian_1908I have a secondary SSD that I want to use for both Linux containers and a Windows 10 VM guest (image). The recommended filesystem for Linux containers is ZFS. I'm thinking about just using the whole disk as a single ZFS partition, as I don't know yet how much space each item will take up. Any reason to assume this is a problem?22:51
oerhekspool of 1 disk, no problem.22:54
oerhekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/ZFS22:54
* adrian_1908 reading, thanks!22:55
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craigbass76Is there a drum machine simpler than Hydrogen? I'm looking for something my kids can practice with where they just dial up "rock beat" or "jazz ride" and not necessarily dork with the individual drums/beats23:10
asynecHi Ubuntu team, quick question for you. I want the install the best version of Ubuntu for updating into 17.10 Gnome at a later date.23:11
asynecWhat should I install if I'm installing today23:11
asynec17.04 Gnome? 17.10 Beta?23:11
adrian_1908asynec: I'm not the best person to answer, so take in more opinions, but I would choose 17.10 Beta in this case, because I think a lot of changes are going to happen in this jump, and I don't think 17.10 will be based on "Ubuntu Gnome".23:14
asynecThanks, Adrian!23:15
[itchyjunk]Hello, I am trying to make a live usb of ubuntu and use that to install ubunttu on a laptop.23:21
[itchyjunk]i googled for live usb iso ubuntu and got this23:22
[itchyjunk]https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?country=US&version=16.04.3&architecture=amd6423:22
[itchyjunk]is this the correct one? thanks :)23:22
oerheksany ubuntu version has a live mode, except the mini and server iso23:24
[itchyjunk]ahh i see23:24
jojeroGood day guys, how to switch to openbox?23:24
adrian_1908[itchyjunk]: That one is definitely a good choice for a laptop though :)23:25
jojerowill my driver functions great?23:25
[itchyjunk]ahh nice, tyvm. would you know if it comes with non free wifi drivers? i tried debian but i didnt realize it didnt have any drivers so couldnt get wifi going23:25
jojeroI wanna ditch gnome and do openbox23:26
jojerouse*23:26
adrian_1908[itchyjunk]: Yes, should come with non-free drivers afaik. It should ask during installation (checkbox).23:26
jojeroso it is safe to remove gnome after installing openbox?23:27
[itchyjunk]adrian_1908: excellent. tyvm. o/23:27
jojeroteach me pls :/23:28
adrian_1908[itchyjunk]: "Install third-party software" the checkbox is called I believe. np.23:28
[itchyjunk]ahh, noted23:28
jojeroanyone here using openbox?23:29
[itchyjunk]Not me23:30
oerheksso do like to build a minimal desktop with open,box, sudo apt install openbox obconf, logout and login23:30
[itchyjunk]this is what google suggested : openbox.org/wiki/Help:Using_Openbox_in_GNOME23:30
oerheksc/some23:30
oerheksthere is no openbox ubuntu iso AFAIK23:31
bazhangthere is lubuntu23:32
bazhangthats lxde/openbox23:32
jojerooerheks sorry for the late respond, can I run openbox without gnome23:52
jojero?23:52
bazhangjojero, sure, use lxde23:53
bazhang!lubuntu | jojero23:54
ubottujojero: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.23:54

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