[00:04] * linux_user says: Hello everyone! I am looking to temporarily disable my touch screen in Ubuntu Linux (16.04). I tried doing an xinput -list and then "xinput disable DEVICE", and it worked for about 5 minutes and then somehow the device got enabled again. Any ideas of how I could temporarily disable it (absent it coming back on without my telling it too), but not surviving a reboot is fine for me too. [00:21] HEyo [00:22] whats up sourceslayer [00:24] Could someone recommend some good back up software? I'll be using an external harddrive that'll mostly be disconnected. [00:25] Any recommendation is experienced, I had something in mind like Time Machine on an apple device [00:27] I like backula [00:27] !info backintime-common | sourceslayer [00:27] sourceslayer: backintime-common (source: backintime): simple backup/snapshot system (common files). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.12-1 (zesty), package size 228 kB, installed size 1293 kB [00:28] You could just use rsync if one system is all you got [00:29] Thanks, I'll look into those. [00:30] by default, is zesty-backports enabled in Software and Update? [00:32] Pretty sure they are [00:33] * linux_user says: Hello everyone! I am looking to temporarily disable my touch screen in Ubuntu Linux (16.04). I tried doing an xinput -list and then "xinput disable DEVICE", and it worked for about 5 minutes and then somehow the device got enabled again. Any ideas of how I could temporarily disable it (absent it coming back on without my telling it too), but not surviving a reboot is fine for me too. [00:37] so I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS [00:37] I have my launcher running on the left side of the window, always hidden unless I select it [00:37] I have an alert from Software Updater [00:37] I click it and nothing happens [00:37] I right click it and select "Software Updater" from the menu that comes out [00:37] nothing happens [00:37] I can `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade` just fine, but the GUI tool appears to be good at [00:38] a) making a notification [00:38] b) not letting me act on it [00:38] Is there any particular log I should post? Is this something I should file a bug for? [00:39] Toba, first, dont use enter as punctuation, thats impossible to read === Schnabeltierchen is now known as Guest49773 [00:39] Need to check if you have a virtual desktop|workspace it is hiding in first. Sounds like it is working normally [00:40] I have 4 virtual desktops and it does not appear on any of them. [00:41] It doesn't appear in the alt-tab app switching list either, on any of them [00:48] Well I don't have any other ideas but I don't think a bug report will help unless you can reproduce it on a fresh install. Might want to see if it happens on a new user [00:54] hello [00:54] I switched to tty and stopped lightdm (sudo service lightdm stop) to minimize risk of system hanging. [00:55] yeah, but when switching between ttys, I accidentally hit Ctrl+Alt+F7 [00:55] now I can't switch to any tty [00:58] tty was meant to be an emergency feature, right? [00:59] then it's f.ing needed right now! [01:17] TheWild: Either your input driver is stuck or your system has crashed. Can you SSH to the stuck system over the network? [01:36] TheWild: Are you using Unity? === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:02] i want to see what files are currently being cached [02:37] When I turn off and on the hardware 'wireless' switch on my laptop, the device shows hard blocked. Using rfkill to enable does not work, the only way I have found is to restart. Obviously I don't care about the feature but sometimes the switch gets hit accidentally. [02:42] lol [02:42] Another unrelated question: when switching display setups, the settings (resolution, DPI, position) are not remembered. Is there any was to store these settings? [02:42] if ubuntu only accepts bug reports if they're replicable on a fresh install, it'll end up in a pretty buggy state pretty quick [02:44] Hi guys. I just installed nvidia driver, however when running lspcii I see i have my intel integrated running kernel driver: i915 and my geforce 770m kernel driver running nvidia. I think this is causing a issue.. can anyone help me solve? [02:44] Pinkamena_D: So the hardware switch will turn disable WiFi ok, but will not work to turn it back on again? Is that what you are saying? [02:45] Pinkamena_D: You can not use the switch to turn it back on again? [02:45] usr13: yes [02:46] usr13: the start in rfkill list stays as 'hard blocked: yes' [02:46] Pinkamena_D: So you can not use the switch to turn it back on again? [02:47] no [02:47] when the switch is back in the 'on' position, it still shows as hard blocked [02:47] Pinkamena_D: Is there also a key on the keboard for WiFi? [02:48] Bluetooth works: becomes hard blocked when switch is 'off' and comes back up properly when switch is 'ono' [02:48] 'on' [02:48] wifi only disables but never resumes [02:48] There is no Fn key combo for wifi, no [02:49] Pinkamena_D: Not sure what to make of it. If it turns it off, it should turn it back on again. Not sure what you could do about it. [02:50] usr13: hopefully something :) I dont want to restart everytime the switch gets hit by accident. [02:50] It may be a hardware problem. [02:50] usr13: driver is ath5k but I also tried an iwlwifi mini-pcie card, and same issue persisted. [02:51] Pinkamena_D: What WiFi device is it? (What does lspci say about it?) [02:52] Pinkamena_D: And what is the make and model of the laptop? [02:52] Hi guys. I just installed nvidia driver, however when running lspcii I see i have my intel integrated running kernel driver: i915 and my geforce 770m kernel driver running nvidia. I think this is causing a issue.. can anyone help me solve? [02:53] usr13: Its a thinkpad t60: card is AR242x / AR542x Qualcomm Atheros currently [02:58] Pinkamena_D: https://www.google.com/search?q=AR542x+arch+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 [03:00] I have never understood why a laptop would have a switch for WiFi. [03:01] ... seems to me that what ever network management software you have would allow you the option to use WiFi or not use it. [03:02] And if the switch no longer funcions normally, I'd assume it's a hardware issue. [03:16] hi [03:16] hows adobe CC 2015 on play on linux? === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [03:31] Hi? [03:32] Hows adobe CC 2015 in play on linux? [03:36] hi [03:38] i have a netbook without a screen, i don't know how, but was configured to use a secodary screen, today don't recognize the second screen in graphical mode, how can i configurete exit [03:57] how can I detect what my system thinks a keystroke is inputted as? In inkscape I'm trying to delete something with the delete key, but I don't know how ubuntu is processing my keyboard [04:00] I followed the advice TJ- gave me and it seemed to work: my desktop stopped freezing when I suspended it, but then it did it again, and then it happened while I was still using the computer and logged in and everything. What would cause my system to just freeze like that? I have no idea what the problem is, let alone how to search for solutions. [04:00] 16.04 LTS [04:02] I tried to sign into a website and then, nothing. The mouse, keyboard, network, everything completely unresponsive. The monitors were on this time, because it happened before I it was locked or suspended, but the display was fixed and did not react to anything I tried. [04:02] is there an easy way to enable serial console login from a preseed file? [04:22] where's the location of amtlib of adobe photoshop on play on linux? [04:26] Is there a channel for Lubuntu? [04:26] #lubuntu, or here [04:27] Ty [04:30] My ram overflows frequently, I can't use some applications because of it... Is there a solution possible? [05:13] AlphaOmega: How mcuh RAM is there, how many CPU cores runnin'! and does the system have a swapfile/parition? Also, check the CPU useage ratios. [05:19] 4 GB ram.. 2 physical (4 logical) cores. [05:20] An 8 GB swap file on HDD [05:20] CPU usage usually stays around 40% maxinum [05:21] But suddenly, at rare occasions (when everything freezes up) CPU jumps to 80% or higher for about 1-3 seconds [05:21] AlphaOmega: You may adjust swappiness and disk cache. other than that if you have ubuntu with unity or Gnome, you may wish to try ubuntu with a lighter desktop environments, like Xubuntu, lubuntu. [05:23] AlphaOmega: what are the apps that mostly running, and do you happen to have many broswer tabs open and browser extensions!? [05:23] !info preload | AlphaOmega try this also [05:23] AlphaOmega try this also: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (zesty), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB [05:26] AlphaOmega: when the CPU spikes to 80%, do you know what processes were using CPU? [05:30] @sary usually it's a game with Firefox (easily reproducible) [05:30] are all of the user here are Programmers? [05:30] But in exceptional cases, the game itself causes it [05:31] nbastin processes like base Lubuntu daemons and steam and dota and maybe evince + pcmanfm [05:31] lotuspsychje: what does it do/how to configure it? [05:31] AlphaOmega: just install and reboot [05:32] Hope it works [05:33] Jojero_: I doubt it, I am not [05:33] Jojero_: There are language specific channels if you need help with programming, this channel is for Ubuntu support [05:33] can you give me to that channel? [05:33] for web development? [05:36] !alis | Jojero_ [05:36] Jojero_: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [05:39] okay let me check it out [05:48] hello friends. i am experiencing a crash about 2x per week and unfortunately i am always away when it happens. i can not find anything in particular of interest in /var/log/syslog, is there anything else i should be looking at to determine the cause? [05:49] BUSY: is it a full system crash, or only X ? [05:50] BUSY: you can look at ~/.xsession-errors [05:50] full crash. all services go down [05:51] it does appear to restart automatically, however [05:52] but ssh and apache do not start again, which is the real bummer. i may have to configure them to start with the system === pavlushka is now known as Guest19993 [05:53] where are the default python paths set in ubuntu === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod === Guest19993 is now known as pavlushka [06:00] steven: whereis python === KindTwo is now known as KindOne [06:01] lotuspsychje: in /usr/bin [06:02] for some reason on one machine everything works fine but on another I need to permanently add 2 paths and set LD_LIBRARY_PATH === aminvakil1 is now known as aminvakil [06:19] can anyone help me with a networking issue [06:20] I have a staticly configured ethernet, that needs to provide the connected device with the internet from the wifi [06:20] but as soon as I connect to the ethernet, I lose the internet on my pc [06:23] Johnson1977: so the ethernet and wifi are on the same machine, and the wifi gives you access to the internet? [06:23] Correct [06:23] Johnson1977: what is the configuration of both interfaces (wifi and ethernet) [06:24] Wifi has default settings, ethernet is configured to manual/static [06:24] it sounds like the ethernet configuration is putting in a competing route or blowing up your wifi subnet, but we'll need your config to see [06:24] "default" settings aren't a thing.. :-) [06:24] what IPs and subnets do they have? [06:24] Sorry im linux beginner [06:24] No worries, I presume wifi is on dhcp? [06:24] Yes [06:24] the ethernet IP is 10.10.10.13 [06:24] Can you tell me the IP address of both interfaces? [06:24] subnet 255.255.255.255 === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [06:25] Wifi IP is 192.168.1.5, subnet 255.255.255.0 [06:25] so the subnet of your ethernet is not going to work for your remote device, but I think that's not your current problem [06:25] how do you reinstall a package and all of its dependencies [06:26] (it needs to be at least 255.255.255.252, but depending on how many devices are on the other side you'll need more) [06:26] Johnson1977: can you give me the output of "ip route"? [06:27] default via 192.168.1.1 dev wlp4s0 proto static metric 600 [06:27] 10.10.10.13 dev enp3s0f1 proto kernel scope link src 10.10.10.13 metric 100 [06:27] 169.254.0.0/16 dev wlp4s0 scope link metric 1000 [06:27] 192.168.1.0/24 dev wlp4s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.5 metric 600 [06:27] illuminated: you said it's configured statically.... how did you do that? and did you set a default gateway [06:27] hrm, I dunno why you are losing your internet given that route table [06:28] actually now its working [06:28] let me reset to what I had before [06:28] right [06:28] with this settings, I still have wifi internet [06:29] but cannot connect the device thru ethernet [06:29] right, that's because your ethernet is misconfigured.. :-) [06:29] onlything that i didnt put in is gateways [06:29] we can deal with that [06:29] you need to change the subnet size [06:29] don't put in a gateway [06:29] if I put gateway on the ethernet, I can connect to the device [06:29] 255.255.255.255 means that the ethernet IP is the *only* IP on that LAN [06:29] but will then lose internet [06:30] yes but that's sortof a side effect of the route affecting the netmask [06:30] you don't need a gateway [06:30] what IP does the other device have? [06:30] 10.10.10.10 [06:31] ok, so you need to make your netmask 255.255.255.0 [06:31] how did you configure the ethernet statically [06:31] and the 10.10.10.10 device needs 10.10.10.13 to be its gateway [06:31] nbastin: no [06:31] no gateway [06:32] Ben64: his *other* device [06:32] still no [06:32] He said he wanted it to access the internet, I thought [06:32] oh, not from how i understood it [06:32] you may be right, I may have made that up.. :-) [06:32] it is a bit confusing though [06:33] i'm thinking --wifi-----ethernet--- [06:33] I have the other device at IP 10.10.10.10 and Gateway 10.10.10.13 [06:33] Johnson1977: does the other device need to access the internet, or just the PC? [06:33] and pc2 is just there to be accessed local only [06:33] that would certainly be easier.. :-) [06:33] other device needs internet too [06:33] well then [06:34] !ics [06:34] well, ok, so the first thing you need to do though is still change the ethernet netmask on pc1 [06:34] If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing [06:34] o wait a second [06:34] its working? [06:34] i changed subnet [06:34] ok [06:34] if you already configured NAT, then it might just work [06:34] let me just see if it has internet [06:35] O IT WORKS! [06:35] IM SAVED [06:35] MY CARREERR [06:35] protip - just buy a usb wireless adapter next time [06:37] Thanks guys === jstein_ is now known as jstein === KindTwo is now known as KindOne === kyle_ is now known as Guest7702 [08:11] Hey, is there a way to refresh ubuntu without really reinstalling anything? Ever since I've upgraded 16.04 to 17.04 all seems to be significantly slower than it was. I did that when 17.04 was released so quite few months ago. [08:13] I've several warning after upgrading 'linux-firmware'. Are they anything to worry about?: https://paste.ngx.cc/545744018a9ad5c8 [08:14] Namely: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/ast_dp501_fw.bin for module ast [08:14] Furai: create a new user account and see if it's affected also [08:15] brainwash, and if it is? Is there a way to refresh installation? If not I'll just live with what I have till 18.04 and then do kind of clean install. [08:16] Furai: mmh, 17.10 will be released soon [08:17] Furai: did you check the system log? also, what exactly is slower? [08:17] Startup of various programmes. [08:18] I guess testing with a new user account is the way to go then [08:19] other than that, I think you can do a clean installation while keeping your files in /home [08:19] Yeah, that's what I meant about "kind of clean" install. [08:20] Anyway, thanks. [08:24] MacroMan: I would ask in #ubuntu-kernel [08:24] brainwash: Thanks [08:24] MacroMan: maybe you will have to file a bug report [08:24] It might not be a problem, but I can't find much about it online [08:25] right. these messages are "only" warnings [08:25] could be more to it [08:25] Why I'm here [08:48] hello [08:49] I have python2 and python3 installed, I need python3-dev, can I safely install it without it affecting the currently installed packages? === dreamon_ is now known as dreamon [08:50] you should be able to [08:51] or, why do you think it would affect the other packages? [09:02] hi [09:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1697377 [09:04] Launchpad bug 1697377 in Ubuntu "Change TextBoxes Direction for RTL languages" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:18] Hi [09:18] Im back [09:18] How to access the amtlib file in play on linux? [09:20] Jojero: I suggest asking in #playonlinux [09:20] oh sorry [09:26] I can't install libglib-2.0 [09:27] The following packages have unmet dependencies: libglib2.0-dev : Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.40.0-2) but 2.40.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed Depends: libglib2.0-bin (= 2.40.0-2)E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.butlibglib2.0-bin is already the newest version.andlibglib2.0-0 is already the newest version [09:27] I get this cute error. [09:27] anyone has any idea? [09:27] using xubuntu [09:30] ollehar: sounds like you are using PPAs with conflicting depends [09:30] yeah [09:30] hateball: question is how to solve it [09:30] tried autoremove, clean, dist-upgrade, update/upgrade, -f install [09:31] ollehar: apt cache to see which repo it tries to pull from [09:31] err.. apt policy [09:31] and then you can adjust your PPAs accordingly, if possible [09:31] invalid operation? [09:32] maybe run full-upgrade... [09:33] apt full-upgrade is the same as apt-get dist-upgrade [09:33] ah [09:34] hello! how can I create a bootable USB drive with Ubuntu desktop that I can boot on an old iMac? [09:35] all tutorials I found online are for creating a drive from Mac OS X but I don't have access to a running Mac OS X at the moment [09:54] Where do I set global ENV variables that survive a system reboot? [09:54] adac: /etc/environment i guess? [09:55] I performed apt full-upgrade this morning and suddenly mysql will not start. Here's the logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25477217/ I've purged mysql* and reinstalled and still the same issue. Please can someone help me troubleshoot the issue? [09:56] EriC^^, k will have a look at it thanks [09:58] g105b: have you rebooted [09:58] ghostcube: https://askubuntu.com/questions/175704/unable-to-start-mysql-server-after-update [09:58] Ben64: do I need to? [09:59] it wasnt me :D [09:59] Ben64: joke. obviously rebooted. [09:59] but thx [09:59] ghostcube: woops sorry [09:59] g105b: https://askubuntu.com/questions/175704/unable-to-start-mysql-server-after-update [09:59] :D [10:00] corentin: I've been on that thread already ( I tend to reboot and Google for issues before asking in IRC ) but I couldn't see any answer that was specific to my question. Could you enlighten me which answer is relevant? [10:01] g105b: first try to reboot the whole box, then try the only answer marked as solving the problem [10:03] corentin: rebooted ✓ I'm not using a custom mysql mount point, so marked answer is not appropriate. After purging mysql, no file at /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld. After installing again, file seems ok at first glance: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25477304/ [10:03] No sign of anything overlapping, but there shouldn't be because this is a fresh install of mysql. [10:04] g105b: right about mount point, I missed taht fact [10:05] g105b: no errors during install of mysql-server? [10:05] as in https://askubuntu.com/questions/900064/mysql-not-starting-due-to-errors [10:07] g105b: could you pastebing output of this command please: sudo journalctl -xe -u mysql [10:09] corentin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25477485/ [10:10] corentin: no errors apart from post-install when the service tries to start again. [10:11] hateball: don't I know you from #limesurvey? [10:12] g105b: what about: sudo ln -s /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld /etc/apparmor.d/disable/usr.sbin.mysqld [10:12] and then reinstall mysql-server [10:13] ollehar: I lurk here and there :) [10:13] ollehar: did you get the problem sorted? [10:16] Hi can anyone help me :( [10:16] !ask | Jojero [10:16] Jojero: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [10:16] where can I find the directory of adobe illustrator? :( [10:16] Uh... there's no Adobe Illustrator for Linux [10:17] I just use play on linux :( [10:17] Jojero: prolly in your windows drive in ~/.wine/ [10:17] I ask in different channel but they ask for payment before they tell me :/ [10:17] Jojero: try find ~/ -iname "*adobe*" [10:17] Jojero: It'll be in ~/PlayOnLinux [10:18] thanks so much :) [10:18] you guys are the best <3 [10:18] OT: Asking for payment on IRC is pretty... shady [10:18] yea :/ [10:18] he's username is rindolf [10:19] gtg guys, thanks so much <3 ^_^ [10:19] hateball: i've had people voluntarily ask for my paypal and send me money for helping ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [10:20] you guys are doing it for free? what? j/k [10:20] Ben64: neat! [10:20] corentin: well I still have no mysql, only solution is install Windows. [10:20] well that isn't a solution [10:20] what? [10:20] mysql wont work in linux?? [10:20] Not on my linux. [10:20] I was gonna go to linux so I can do web dev [10:20] Ben64: Yes, but that's a rather opposite thing :p [10:20] :( sad [10:21] so I cant do wordpress :/ [10:21] g105b: service apparmor stop ? [10:21] g105b: good luck then! [10:21] Jojero: of course mysql works on linux [10:21] is it good to move to linux? Im taking a backend career path :) [10:21] Jojero: up to you [10:22] oh :) I hope I do the right thing .. [10:22] I can move back anytime since I have the digital entitlement.. :D [10:24] :/ I did vagrant but Im not comfortable with it though [10:25] I want to have a native linux machine. [10:25] go for it [10:25] :) i hope photoshop works great .. [10:26] later guys :) [10:30] Jojero: Moving to Linux to run Windows applications is perhaps not the greatest thing you can do [10:31] Jojero: hateball is right, you would probably get a terrible user experience from doing that [10:31] unless you can run your windows soft in a VM maybe [10:37] thanks guys :) [10:39] corentin: I can't figure this out, I've ended up running mysql inside docker to get me going... might have a look at the problem again one day but for now I'm up and running, albeit through a virtualisation service. [10:54] anyone have experience with maas in vbox [11:02] Howdy folks === Elder is now known as BehzadE === BehzadE is now known as Elder === Elder is now known as ITI === ITI is now known as BehzadE [11:34] Hi all. I'm looking for a decent cross-OS password manager. Does anybody have any experience with https://www.enpass.io/apps/linux/ yet and can share their oppinion about it? [11:35] Anticom: keepassX ? [11:35] hateball: nope, no solution yet. I need it to compile rofi, but any other launcher (that works with openbox) will do, if you happen to know one. [11:35] Hi [11:35] For example enpass is advertising 256Bit AES encryption... However i thought that one was broken already, wasn't it? [11:35] How can I add Eclipse to appear in my Development section? [11:36] nuked0ne: Development section? [11:36] http://i.imgur.com/qfapRYg.png [11:36] here [11:36] along with other IDEs [11:36] ollehar: Sorry cant help you there, I am Plasma exclusive :p [11:37] What flavor of Ubuntu is that nuked0ne ? [11:37] Anticom: it's ubuntu xfce [11:37] hateball: ok, thanks anyway [11:38] nuked0ne: Just guessing that this might help maybe? : http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.de/2013/03/how-to-add-application-launcher-to.html [11:38] Oh no nvm [11:38] anyone have maas experience.? [11:39] nuked0ne: i meant this one: http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.de/2011/12/add-items-to-xfce-applications-menu.html [11:39] !maas [11:39] Metal as a Service is a dynamic server provisioning service for scalability. See more about it at https://maas.ubuntu.com. [11:39] Hi, I try to run ipython on Ubuntu 16.04 with python 3, and I get these gtk* import errors [11:39] I traced it to "ImportError: No module named 'gobject' " [11:39] hmmm, could have sworn there was an IRC channel for it [11:39] but I installed python3-gi [11:39] what works is "from gi.repository import GObject as gobject " [11:39] hateball: its there but its not active [11:39] but matplotlib still complains [11:41] Anticom: what should the command be? I tried 'eclipse' but it's not [11:41] I mean Exec=Command [11:41] nuked0ne: depends on how you 'installed' eclipse [11:41] Anticom: I downloaded it from the website [11:41] if it's in your PATH, you can find its location using 'which eclipse' [11:41] Anticom: not apt-get [11:41] nuked0ne: well then you should know where you've placed it [11:42] yes I know where it is [11:42] use a full path [11:42] instead of just 'eclipse' [11:42] or in your .bashrc, .profile etc. put export PATH=/path/to/eclipse/:$PATH === ShalokShalom_ is now known as ShalokShalom [11:47] hey it worked [11:47] thanks a lot Anticom! [11:47] hi guys have issue https://askubuntu.com/questions/928997/gnome-unable-to-install-extention , i did what they told but it didn't help me [11:59] anyone here running a distro with the dell xps 13 9360 ? [12:12] Anyone know how to make alias myAlias=sudo last reboot? [12:13] swensson: add it to ~/.bashrc [12:13] blueboy: what do you want to know exactly? [12:14] brainwash ah thanks=) [12:15] I believe the issue to be a bios related issue or IPM issue with the USB ports on the xps 13 [12:15] basically [12:16] I put the bios in legacy, put the storage controller in AHCI mode [12:16] the live install for ubuntu boots and then it gives me an error after the initial splash that it cant find the live media [12:17] "unable to find medium containing live file system" [12:17] I have verified the usb boots into a live environment on another system as well [12:17] which ubuntu release is that? [12:18] hey, how can I determinate if a daemon is either start by systemd or sysinit ? I am running ubuntu 16.04 [12:18] blueboy, how did you create the live image ? [12:18] i have attempted 16.04 and 17.04. I also attempted this with Fedora and had the same issue. [12:18] I used rufus [12:18] anchnk: 16.04 uses systemd by default [12:18] attempted with the standard windows ISO method and dd method, both give the same error [12:19] anchnk: maybe you want to read this https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-sysv-generator.html [12:19] Could it possibly be a TPM issue not allowing 3rd party OS boot even with legacy boot and secureboot turned off ? [12:19] did you unmount the device before running dd or rufus [12:19] blueboy,^ [12:20] Blue, yes. I have also teste the usb on another system and it boots successfully [12:21] brainwash thank you, I am trying to figure it out if my mysql service is either start before or after supervisor [12:21] from the research I have done this is acommon issue with the laptop and some users. [12:21] but yeah I need to dive deeper into the doc [12:21] I see some others having zero issue and others cant figure their way around it. [12:22] another system has different settings, in it's BIOS/UEFI, check those and do the same for the problematic one [12:22] anchnk: if you have systemd specific questions, I suggest asking in #systemd [12:22] oh great thankx brainwash [12:23] I have matched accordingly, secureboot disabled, legacy boot, moved from raid to ahci for support [12:23] I think the issue is the usb controller, it doesnt support legacy mode, only 3.0 [12:23] I have also seen in the logs the controller is being added and removed, spamming [12:24] From what I can tell it might be intels power management screwing me [12:24] you could give ubuntu 17.10 Beta a try [12:24] That was pretty much my next step [12:24] also, maybe it's worth to contact the Dell support channels [12:25] There is an actual ubuntu 14.04 recovery meda for the xps 13 as well, dell has a recover media for it (a dev version of the laptop) Im tryin to get my hands on that as well. [12:26] Its service tag depedent for access to it [12:29]