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lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:49
ducassemorning06:18
lordievaderGood morning07:02
ducassehi lordievader, wb07:10
lordievaderHey ducasse, how are you doing?07:11
ducassegood, thanks - going out to an optician appointment soon. how are you?07:13
lordievaderDoing good here, doing some typing practice :)07:14
ducasseah, are you using some software for it?07:15
lordievaderktouch, practicing colemak.07:17
lordievaderBy default it is quite rigid, 180 characters per minute and an accuracy of >=98% to continue to the next lesson.07:19
ducassewhy colemak? i have no idea what the advantages are..07:19
lordievaderThe most  used letters are on the homerow, it is supposed to make your typing more efficient.07:20
lordievaderQwerty is designed to be as non-efficient as possible ;) (I'm paraphrasing)07:21
ducassewell, prevent the pins that strike the paper in a typewriter from locking, yes :)07:23
ducassethe reason i've never looked into something like dvorak is that i started typing early enough that qwerty has 'always' been in muscle memory07:24
lordievaderSame here ;)07:24
ducassei think i'm also too lazy to put in the effort, but i wish you good luck :)07:26
lordievaderHahaha, thanks.07:31
ducassebtw, do you use any android apps for reading ebooks? any suggestions? i see fbreader is popular, but not sure if it's worth buying.07:32
lordievaderI use an ipad for reading. Don't think Marvin is available on Android.07:38
ducasseno, i've heard about it but don't think it is. i'll try out fbreader with ads and see how it looks.07:39
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lotuspsychjeafternoon guys10:30
lotuspsychjefound new artful bug10:30
lotuspsychje#171560410:30
lotuspsychjebug 171560410:30
ubot5`bug 1715604 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update-manager does not expand details" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/171560410:30
ducassehi lotuspsychje10:35
lotuspsychjehey ducasse10:36
BluesKajHi folks11:00
ducassewb BluesKaj11:01
BluesKajhey ducasse11:01
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj11:11
BluesKajhi lotuspsychje11:11
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: playing with artful on business desktop here11:12
BluesKajright, how is it so far, using gnome a I presume?11:13
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: for me, fantastic yes in gnome with dash to dock fork11:14
BluesKajdock fork?11:14
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: http://imgur.com/a/nWNk411:15
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: they forked the addon and added by default to have a more 'unity' feeling11:15
BluesKajahh11:15
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: so thank god its not only the activities button alone anymore11:16
BluesKajI went back to VDs on kde/plasma, activities was too clunky and slow11:17
lotuspsychjeducasse: you got chromium installed on artful?11:20
lotuspsychjei got keyring unlock password every time i launch chromium11:20
ducassei have chromium, yes, but i haven't seen that. probably because i don't have they keyring daemon running ;)11:27
lotuspsychjeaha11:28
lotuspsychjeanyone knows about mms stuff?14:48
daftykinspicture messaging? :) the tech that nobody wanted14:52
lotuspsychjeyeah14:52
lotuspsychjedaftykins: have a customer that gets a timeout when receiving or sending a pic tru mms14:52
lotuspsychjedoublechecked all APN settings with a provider tech14:52
daftykinswith what kind of phone?14:52
lotuspsychjesamsung galaxy a3 201714:53
daftykinshmm i'd say it was the telcos problem to support14:53
ducasseask the provider to send him the profile again?14:53
daftykinseh you just key 'em in manually14:53
lotuspsychjedaftykins: could it be that his activation of new sim is recently done?14:54
lotuspsychjefrom yesterday14:54
lotuspsychjeducasse: provider made a new ticket also14:54
daftykinsnah if mobile data works i'd have thought MMS would work... but who uses MMS? :)14:54
lotuspsychjelol, those who refuse to send pics tru email/wifi14:55
lotuspsychjehe's 60 y old, that explains it?14:55
lotuspsychjeoldskool paying is better right :p14:55
daftykinsthere's always the ol' customary reboot after editing settings i suppose14:57
lotuspsychjedaftykins: yeah we tryed that too14:57
daftykinsmuch sooner use whatsapp and send pics and messages for free14:57
lotuspsychjedaftykins: webpage from provider also says to send 1 mms to own number to activate14:59
lotuspsychjebut that also timeouts14:59
ducassei'd talk to the provider, there's not much you can do anyway15:03
daftykins*nod*15:03
lotuspsychjeducasse: yeah ill do that, ticket is being made anyways15:03
ducassegive 'em hell!15:03
lotuspsychjelol15:03
lotuspsychjeof course, customer complains his old nokia could send mms no probs15:04
lotuspsychjeso i said, it was another provider also..15:04
lotuspsychjecant generalize things like that15:04
daftykinsyes and his old morse code generator could function on the telegraph pretty well too15:04
lotuspsychjelol15:04
daftykins:>15:04
ducasse.---. -....-.  -.--. .---.  ..--.- --- -.--.- -..-. .---. -....-....-.-...-.-15:10
lotuspsychjehaha15:10
lotuspsychje... --- ...15:22
lotuspsychjeS.O.S.15:22
ducasseanother idea, convert his images to ascii then send those as sms15:22
lotuspsychjelol15:22
lotuspsychjei still got a tamtam here15:22
lotuspsychjeand send smoke messages over tha mountains15:23
daftykins:>15:23
daftykinsgiven 160 characters per message how many messages would a 640x480 black and white pic require to send? :>15:23
ducasseok, then, compress and uuencode it15:24
daftykinsi need to write a work invoice, boo15:26
lotuspsychjelol15:26
lotuspsychjedaftykins: good luck!15:26
daftykins;D15:26
daftykinsi keep all my hours in a notepad, nice analog method15:27
lotuspsychjeif its on recycled papaer its ok :p15:27
daftykinshehe, i think i bought this notepad when i was at Uni, so that's 12 years15:27
lotuspsychjethats still from a tree then :p15:27
daftykinsi'm innocent, sir ;_;15:28
lotuspsychjelol15:28
lotuspsychjewe are the innocent victims of throw away society15:29
lotuspsychjemade in china15:29
ducasseuh-oh, enemy cat outside!15:32
lotuspsychjelol15:32
daftykinsACTION STATIONS!15:32
* daftykins dives in the cat bed15:32
ducassegone now :)15:33
lotuspsychjegonna go eat croque madam guys15:34
lotuspsychjehave a nice one :p15:34
ducasseok, enjoy!15:34
lotuspsychjetnx ducasse15:35
lotuspsychjelaterz daftykins15:35
daftykins\o15:35
ducassei think i'll play with calibre, transfer ebooks to the tablet15:37
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brunchI strongly dislike gnome316:41
brunchI miss unity :(16:42
naccbrunch: then install it?16:42
daftykinsgo LTS :)16:42
naccbrunch: it's still in universe16:42
brunchI'm forcing myself forward16:42
brunchbut I don't feel like gnome is ready yet16:42
brunchgames run like arse16:42
brunchI tried KDE, which runs smoother but I just can't wrap my head around the lack of hotkeys16:43
brunchand I'm too lazy to install some plugins to make it run like unity16:43
brunchI also miss utouch16:48
brunchhopefully snap becomes the main thing, I'm rooting for that as well16:48
daftykinshappy with normal packages myself16:49
BluesKajdunno anything about sanp16:51
BluesKajsnap even :-)16:52
EriC^^evening all17:06
brunchevening EriC^^17:06
EriC^^hey brunch17:06
BluesKajhey EriC^^17:15
EriC^^hi BluesKaj18:19
EriC^^wb18:19
oerheks:-)18:28
EriC^^hey oerheks :)18:28
oerheksHi EriC^^, just made diner, brb18:29
EriC^^cool, bon apetite :)18:31
BluesKajwas away for a few mins at the neighbourhood mailbox...junkmail and flyers are still plentiful :-)18:49
BluesKajpaper advertizing still has it's uses18:51
BluesKajwas reading about anew audio client/server called Pipewire that's supposed to replace alsa and pulse audio on fedora18:59
ducasseplus gstreamer, aiui - it's also for video. and not alsa, i think, wasn't it jack?19:02
oerhekspipewire, interesting, from the Fedora guys19:05
BluesKajthe emphasis seemed to be on audio ..video was only mentioned in passing19:07
ducassevideo was the original goal according to the stuff i read. who cares, i adopt a 'wait and see' approach to this.19:09
immuhttps://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2017/06/20/fedora-workstation-26-and-beyond/19:26
immuhttps://pipewire.github.io/pipewire.org/19:27
BluesKajyeah, it looks some kind of video/audio integration to replace pulse and gstreamer as a real media suite19:27
immulets see19:39
immugoog nite folks19:39
immuEriC^^, hi19:39

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