[05:49] good morning to all [06:18] morning [07:02] Good morning [07:10] hi lordievader, wb [07:11] Hey ducasse, how are you doing? [07:13] good, thanks - going out to an optician appointment soon. how are you? [07:14] Doing good here, doing some typing practice :) [07:15] ah, are you using some software for it? [07:17] ktouch, practicing colemak. [07:19] By default it is quite rigid, 180 characters per minute and an accuracy of >=98% to continue to the next lesson. [07:19] why colemak? i have no idea what the advantages are.. [07:20] The most used letters are on the homerow, it is supposed to make your typing more efficient. [07:21] Qwerty is designed to be as non-efficient as possible ;) (I'm paraphrasing) [07:23] well, prevent the pins that strike the paper in a typewriter from locking, yes :) [07:24] the reason i've never looked into something like dvorak is that i started typing early enough that qwerty has 'always' been in muscle memory [07:24] Same here ;) [07:26] i think i'm also too lazy to put in the effort, but i wish you good luck :) [07:31] Hahaha, thanks. [07:32] btw, do you use any android apps for reading ebooks? any suggestions? i see fbreader is popular, but not sure if it's worth buying. [07:38] I use an ipad for reading. Don't think Marvin is available on Android. [07:39] no, i've heard about it but don't think it is. i'll try out fbreader with ads and see how it looks. === JanC is now known as Guest49554 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [10:30] afternoon guys [10:30] found new artful bug [10:30] #1715604 [10:30] bug 1715604 [10:30] bug 1715604 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update-manager does not expand details" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1715604 [10:35] hi lotuspsychje [10:36] hey ducasse [11:00] Hi folks [11:01] wb BluesKaj [11:01] hey ducasse [11:11] hey BluesKaj [11:11] hi lotuspsychje [11:12] BluesKaj: playing with artful on business desktop here [11:13] right, how is it so far, using gnome a I presume? [11:14] BluesKaj: for me, fantastic yes in gnome with dash to dock fork [11:14] dock fork? [11:15] BluesKaj: http://imgur.com/a/nWNk4 [11:15] BluesKaj: they forked the addon and added by default to have a more 'unity' feeling [11:15] ahh [11:16] BluesKaj: so thank god its not only the activities button alone anymore [11:17] I went back to VDs on kde/plasma, activities was too clunky and slow [11:20] ducasse: you got chromium installed on artful? [11:20] i got keyring unlock password every time i launch chromium [11:27] i have chromium, yes, but i haven't seen that. probably because i don't have they keyring daemon running ;) [11:28] aha [14:48] anyone knows about mms stuff? [14:52] picture messaging? :) the tech that nobody wanted [14:52] yeah [14:52] daftykins: have a customer that gets a timeout when receiving or sending a pic tru mms [14:52] doublechecked all APN settings with a provider tech [14:52] with what kind of phone? [14:53] samsung galaxy a3 2017 [14:53] hmm i'd say it was the telcos problem to support [14:53] ask the provider to send him the profile again? [14:53] eh you just key 'em in manually [14:54] daftykins: could it be that his activation of new sim is recently done? [14:54] from yesterday [14:54] ducasse: provider made a new ticket also [14:54] nah if mobile data works i'd have thought MMS would work... but who uses MMS? :) [14:55] lol, those who refuse to send pics tru email/wifi [14:55] he's 60 y old, that explains it? [14:55] oldskool paying is better right :p [14:57] there's always the ol' customary reboot after editing settings i suppose [14:57] daftykins: yeah we tryed that too [14:57] much sooner use whatsapp and send pics and messages for free [14:59] daftykins: webpage from provider also says to send 1 mms to own number to activate [14:59] but that also timeouts [15:03] i'd talk to the provider, there's not much you can do anyway [15:03] *nod* [15:03] ducasse: yeah ill do that, ticket is being made anyways [15:03] give 'em hell! [15:03] lol [15:04] of course, customer complains his old nokia could send mms no probs [15:04] so i said, it was another provider also.. [15:04] cant generalize things like that [15:04] yes and his old morse code generator could function on the telegraph pretty well too [15:04] lol [15:04] :> [15:10] .---. -....-. -.--. .---. ..--.- --- -.--.- -..-. .---. -....-....-.-...-.- [15:10] haha [15:22] ... --- ... [15:22] S.O.S. [15:22] another idea, convert his images to ascii then send those as sms [15:22] lol [15:22] i still got a tamtam here [15:23] and send smoke messages over tha mountains [15:23] :> [15:23] given 160 characters per message how many messages would a 640x480 black and white pic require to send? :> [15:24] ok, then, compress and uuencode it [15:26] i need to write a work invoice, boo [15:26] lol [15:26] daftykins: good luck! [15:26] ;D [15:27] i keep all my hours in a notepad, nice analog method [15:27] if its on recycled papaer its ok :p [15:27] hehe, i think i bought this notepad when i was at Uni, so that's 12 years [15:27] thats still from a tree then :p [15:28] i'm innocent, sir ;_; [15:28] lol [15:29] we are the innocent victims of throw away society [15:29] made in china [15:32] uh-oh, enemy cat outside! [15:32] lol [15:32] ACTION STATIONS! [15:32] * daftykins dives in the cat bed [15:33] gone now :) [15:34] gonna go eat croque madam guys [15:34] have a nice one :p [15:34] ok, enjoy! [15:35] tnx ducasse [15:35] laterz daftykins [15:35] \o [15:37] i think i'll play with calibre, transfer ebooks to the tablet === JanC_ is now known as JanC === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [16:41] I strongly dislike gnome3 [16:42] I miss unity :( [16:42] brunch: then install it? [16:42] go LTS :) [16:42] brunch: it's still in universe [16:42] I'm forcing myself forward [16:42] but I don't feel like gnome is ready yet [16:42] games run like arse [16:43] I tried KDE, which runs smoother but I just can't wrap my head around the lack of hotkeys [16:43] and I'm too lazy to install some plugins to make it run like unity [16:48] I also miss utouch [16:48] hopefully snap becomes the main thing, I'm rooting for that as well [16:49] happy with normal packages myself [16:51] dunno anything about sanp [16:52] snap even :-) [17:06] evening all [17:06] evening EriC^^ [17:06] hey brunch [17:15] hey EriC^^ [18:19] hi BluesKaj [18:19] wb [18:28] :-) [18:28] hey oerheks :) [18:29] Hi EriC^^, just made diner, brb [18:31] cool, bon apetite :) [18:49] was away for a few mins at the neighbourhood mailbox...junkmail and flyers are still plentiful :-) [18:51] paper advertizing still has it's uses [18:59] was reading about anew audio client/server called Pipewire that's supposed to replace alsa and pulse audio on fedora [19:02] plus gstreamer, aiui - it's also for video. and not alsa, i think, wasn't it jack? [19:05] pipewire, interesting, from the Fedora guys [19:07] the emphasis seemed to be on audio ..video was only mentioned in passing [19:09] video was the original goal according to the stuff i read. who cares, i adopt a 'wait and see' approach to this. [19:26] https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2017/06/20/fedora-workstation-26-and-beyond/ [19:27] https://pipewire.github.io/pipewire.org/ [19:27] yeah, it looks some kind of video/audio integration to replace pulse and gstreamer as a real media suite [19:39] lets see [19:39] goog nite folks [19:39] EriC^^, hi