| tgBot | <neurotone> https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/Home | 00:00 |
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| tgBot | <neurotone> Probably the best spot for me to start reading | 00:00 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> We don't really have anything for setting up APN's. | 00:00 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> If you have a CDMA network, there's nothing to do from what I can tell. GSM might require you to select an option that is stored on the SIM. | 00:01 |
| tgBot | <neurotone> i was thinking https://ting.com/ damn Jupiter broadcasting | 00:02 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Pick whichever one is better in your area and you should be good to go. | 00:02 |
| tgBot | <neurotone> cool thanks for all your help | 00:03 |
| ubports_bot | Project daily-hammerhead build #315: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-hammerhead/315/ | 00:25 |
| ubports_bot | Project ota-push build #982: SUCCESS in 1 min 46 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/982/ | 00:27 |
| tgBot | <MichaelTun> what bridge is UBPorts using? if it is the TeleIRC bot . . . have you considered looking into Matterbridge? … https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge | 00:30 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> It's TeleIRC. Why should we switch? | 00:31 |
| tgBot | <MichaelTun> not really saying you should but Matterbridge does a LOT of bridging with Mattermost, IRC, XMPP, Gitter, Slack, Discord, Telegram, Rocket.Chat, Hipchat(via xmpp), Matrix and Steam | 00:32 |
| tgBot | <MichaelTun> so really just suggesting to have a look if you want | 00:33 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Interesting. | 00:34 |
| nerdboy | okay, how do i make an issue on the right github repo if issues are disabled | 00:35 |
| nerdboy | that might be why i did PR previously | 00:35 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Are you specifically working on our build system, or Halium's? | 00:36 |
| nerdboy | i patched a few things in the source of my build tree (https://github.com/ubports/android_external_e2fsprogs) and i still get the same error | 00:36 |
| * nerdboy never claimed to be android geek | 00:37 | |
| nerdboy | actually all this is so i can get a bootlog from my kernel | 00:37 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Oh, it doesn't manage to put one in /var/log/last_kmesg? | 00:38 |
| nerdboy | it's experimental | 00:39 |
| nerdboy | and no, that doesn't work for this use case | 00:39 |
| nerdboy | https://bpaste.net/raw/ccd6cfc5d14d <= the error | 00:41 |
| nerdboy | which i | 00:41 |
| nerdboy | 'm pretty sure i could've fixed by now with a slightly saner build system | 00:41 |
| nerdboy | but i can't charge 8 days to the customer for spelunking when i'm supposed to be debugging a kernel | 00:42 |
| nerdboy | sorry for being irritated | 00:42 |
| nerdboy | and i haven't been able to find anything that actually explains how to do what i need to do, just the basic setup instructions, eg, repo init, blah make | 00:44 |
| nerdboy | i really should just stick with mainline porting, i hate these old google kernels... | 00:44 |
| tgBot | <kz6fittycent> @UniversalSuperBox, There "are" APN's for CDMA on certain devices now...I had to set mine up when I switched to Lineage OS. I thought it was odd, but I had no data until I completed the APN setup. Once that was done, everything worked. | 00:47 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> nerdboy, I'm not entirely sure what your client wants you to do with a Fairphone or Android phone. Maybe something like xda would be able to put you on a better track? … Our most expert developer is in France right now, which is why I'm looking for a redirect. | 00:49 |
| nerdboy | i'm doing a 3.10 kernel for a 3.4 phone | 00:49 |
| nerdboy | i need to see my debug output | 00:50 |
| nerdboy | period | 00:50 |
| nerdboy | and their fastboot is also broken wrt loading a kernel | 00:50 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Yes it is | 00:50 |
| nerdboy | so i need to use an actual image like recovery | 00:50 |
| nerdboy | i synced today to sync my lates kernel-y stuff and the build is broken in e2fsprogs | 00:51 |
| nerdboy | that's about it | 00:52 |
| nerdboy | wasted a day and i still don't have anything to look at | 00:52 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> You said you had a phone with UART? | 00:53 |
| nerdboy | so i can get an actual bootlog | 00:53 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> You can't put the kernel log through there? | 00:54 |
| nerdboy | it fails and bootloops so that is the only way | 00:54 |
| nerdboy | i can but IT NEEDS TO BOOT at least part way | 00:54 |
| nerdboy | i just told you i have to use an image because fastboot doesn't work | 00:55 |
| nerdboy | image build is broken | 00:55 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> One moment, getting Hexchat running | 00:55 |
| nerdboy | i actually forced myself to use caps | 00:56 |
| * nerdboy needs a beer and a bottle of tequila | 00:56 | |
| nerdboy | can you do /query instead? | 00:57 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> uh | 00:57 |
| UniSuperBox | You have no idea how much of an IRC noob I am. That's why I don't have Hexchat running all the time. | 00:57 |
| nerdboy | /msg is inline, /query is private tab/window | 00:59 |
| UniSuperBox | Can you check your tabs again? | 01:01 |
| tgBot | <Vijay Kumar> (Sticker, 360x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Uk4zozzC/file_422.webp | 01:47 |
| tgBot | Josué was added by: Josué | 02:26 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Welcome Josué | 02:27 |
| tgBot | <Josué> Hello, everybody | 02:27 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> nerdboy, I have to head off for the night. Thanks for filing that issue, I'll investigate where I can tomorrow. | 03:05 |
| nerdboy | i thought ubports was more people | 03:10 |
| nerdboy | is it just you doing everything? | 03:10 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Nope, but most of the devs are in Paris for Ubucon right now | 03:14 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> I'm flattered that you would think that, though. | 03:16 |
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| ubports_bot | Project vivid-rootfs-armhf build #121: SUCCESS in 1 hr 30 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/vivid-rootfs-armhf/121/ | 05:57 |
| ubports_bot | Project ota-push build #983: SUCCESS in 7 min 20 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/983/ | 06:04 |
| tgBot | <DanChapman> @BrisPete, Looking good! 😃 | 07:16 |
| tgBot | <Field10pg> @DanChapman, Very nice Dekko 2. Thanks | 08:09 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> @nerdboy, In case you are still online: The core team is as small as 10 ppl roughly, plus 5-10 related. Before Canonical employed 100 full-time developers. I hope you get the point | 08:12 |
| nerdboy | you definitely need a dev recruiting drive... | 08:13 |
| nerdboy | apply to the google as a GSoC org | 08:13 |
| nerdboy | you could at least get students to work on stuff on google's dime | 08:14 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> We are in process of filing a foundation, then it will become easier | 08:14 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> We will try to recruit people then. Also we can now and then get even paid services | 08:15 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> But before that happens we must be a legal entity for tax and other reasons | 08:15 |
| nerdboy | get ready for next year, org applications are after the first of the year some time | 08:15 |
| nerdboy | https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ | 08:16 |
| nerdboy | i should switch back to toolchain hacking for Ada support tomorrow | 08:17 |
| ubports_bot | Project daily-fp2 build #333: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-fp2/333/ | 08:23 |
| ubports_bot | Project ota-push build #984: SUCCESS in 1 min 10 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/984/ | 08:25 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> @nerdboy, I dont know if people here are keen on working with Google, and in the same time want to get rid of Android & Google Play. It sounds like a conflict of interests | 08:25 |
| tgBot | <TitanX97> @nerdboy, 👍 | 08:35 |
| tgBot | <vanyasem> Fwd from vanyasem: why is there no SSL certeficate for ci.ubports.com? | 08:58 |
| tgBot | <vanyasem> bump | 08:58 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> bump | 09:07 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> Fwd from mariogrip: the system-image server had some problem fetching images using https, so had to disable it | 09:07 |
| tgBot | <vanyasem> Oh, okay, didn't see this. That's a bummer though, as I can't open it with ssl enforced | 09:17 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> Well I could imagine we turn on both but dont forward http => https. That should be possible | 09:21 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> I take a note for this on Infra | 09:21 |
| tgBot | <thepeter> @Flohack I just want to say (hopefully again) that you guys from core team are really doing great work, thank you | 09:36 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> @thepeter, thax for the flower ❤️ | 09:40 |
| tgBot | <thepeter> @Flohack, 🌹🌷💐 | 09:42 |
| tgBot | <bastos777> @thepeter, +1 again 👍 | 09:46 |
| tgBot | io_nl was added by: io_nl | 10:03 |
| tgBot | <mymike00> @io_nl, welcome! | 10:04 |
| tgBot | <io_nl> Thanks :) \o | 10:04 |
| tgBot | <bastos777> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/JMtKynpQ/file_459.jpg | 10:31 |
| tgBot | <bastos777> Frommen logviewer. | 10:32 |
| tgBot | <bastos777> *from app | 10:32 |
| tgBot | François Njeneza was added by: François Njeneza | 10:33 |
| tgBot | <neothethird> welcome :) | 10:33 |
| tgBot | <bastos777> @DanChapman tried to get log pasted in paste bin for you. Di you know another method to share the log? | 10:35 |
| tgBot | <DanChapman> You could get it using ssh or adb shell or something like that | 10:38 |
| tgBot | <Walid> have any one idea about this error (i think its related to sepolicy) … E/cutils ( 60): Failed to read /data/.layout_version: No such file or directory … E/sdcard ( 60): installd fs upgrade not yet complete. Waiting... | 10:42 |
| tgBot | <Vijay Kumar> Walid is your Port based on halium? | 10:50 |
| tgBot | <Mohannes> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/oaknosGG/file_461.jpg | 10:51 |
| tgBot | <Mohannes> We are having a very serious ubucon 😄 | 10:52 |
| tgBot | <mymike00> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/C9RYGkdf/file_462.webp | 10:52 |
| tgBot | <Walid> no, its 100% ubports, working also on halium,(for halium system boot, container start, test_hwcomposer work, vibrator, lights but no graphics waiting for rootfs caf) | 10:52 |
| tgBot | <ProsOne> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/wjwUPjGW/file_463.webp | 10:53 |
| tgBot | <Mohannes> hahaha | 10:53 |
| tgBot | <Mohannes> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/Y0omxjr2/file_465.jpg | 10:53 |
| tgBot | <Mohannes> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/jrmd3IKr/file_467.jpg And having full blast convergene. People’s jaws are dropping :) | 10:56 |
| tgBot | <Walid> can anyone see if there is a file in /data named ".layout_version" ? | 10:57 |
| tgBot | <DanChapman> @Mohannes, 👍 | 11:00 |
| tgBot | <hawk_is_here> @Mohannes, 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 | 11:16 |
| tgBot | <thepeter> @Mohannes, 👍👍👍 as well 😀 | 11:27 |
| tgBot | <jacobmdekker> @jacobmdekker, My mistake. Owncloud sync works fine. | 11:43 |
| ubports_bot | Project daily-mako build #108: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-mako/108/ | 12:55 |
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| tgBot | Georgecloon was added by: Georgecloon | 12:57 |
| tgBot | <thepeter> @Georgecloon, Welcome :D | 12:59 |
| tgBot | <io_nl> @Mohannes, 👌 | 12:59 |
| tgBot | <Georgecloon> Thank you | 12:59 |
| tgBot | <Georgecloon> I'm going to install Ubuntu Touch on my E5 again so I figured I should join this group | 13:00 |
| tgBot | <thepeter> that's a good idea :) | 13:01 |
| tgBot | <thepeter> you just came in, in it's quiet moments (ongiong ubuncon together with saturday afftrenoon are the main reasons 😁) | 13:04 |
| tgBot | <Georgecloon> Oh, okay | 13:43 |
| tgBot | <Georgecloon> Where would I get my apps now that the Ubuntu Store is closing? | 13:48 |
| tgBot | <Georgecloon> Openstore? | 13:48 |
| tgBot | <DanChapman> Yep openstore. | 13:49 |
| tgBot | <Georgecloon> How many apps are in there nowadays? | 13:50 |
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| tgBot | <Georgecloon> I remember that a few modified versions of apps like Dekko were in there. | 13:54 |
| tgBot | <LarreaMikel> @DanChapman good job with dekko 2 !! Btw the notifications do not work, do they ? | 14:02 |
| tgBot | aorzh was added by: aorzh | 14:03 |
| tgBot | <DanChapman> @LarreaMikel thanks! no not yet but will do soon. Working on that right now 😊 | 14:09 |
| tgBot | <LarreaMikel> Great! Thank you!! \m/ | 14:14 |
| tgBot | <Walid> @Flohack is MTP mode work on any device ? and sdcard is detected ? | 14:19 |
| tgBot | <Georgecloon> When I try to install Ubuntu Touch on my Aquaris E5 HD with Magic Device Tool I get this: "/launcher.sh: line 103: ./devices/e5hd/e5hd.sh: No such file or directory" | 14:49 |
| tgBot | <Georgecloon> should I just run e5hd.sh manually? | 14:49 |
| tgBot | <Georgecloon> Because it does exist | 14:49 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> @LarreaMikel, moi aussi | 15:02 |
| tgBot | <Stereofont> @Georgecloon, Good idea to join the MDT group on here | 15:03 |
| tgBot | <Georgecloon> Right, I'll ask over there | 15:04 |
| tgBot | <Georgecloon> Sorry | 15:04 |
| tgBot | <Stereofont> No need for sorry. It is a specific group for that though | 15:05 |
| tgBot | <Yohann> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/t8grOkI0/file_468.webp | 16:07 |
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| tgBot | <DanChapman> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/vdADsbd7/file_470.png | 17:24 |
| tgBot | <DanChapman> @LarreaMikel ^^ | 17:24 |
| nerdboy | tgBot: i don't think so, this google's open source programs office | 17:27 |
| nerdboy | they just pay and organize, the orgs/students do the work | 17:27 |
| nerdboy | my guess is they would accept the org application just so they don't look they're playing favorites/unfavorites | 17:28 |
| nerdboy | this has absolutely nothing to do with android on the google side | 17:29 |
| tgBot | <nfsprodriver> @DanChapman, Nice work! | 17:29 |
| nerdboy | it's really not "working with google" rather working with your org/students | 17:30 |
| nerdboy | they just pay | 17:30 |
| nerdboy | gentoo is an org and they use gentoo for chromeos | 17:31 |
| nerdboy | totally not related to google's os stuff | 17:31 |
| tgBot | <bastos777> @DanChapman great wirk with Dekko 2. Kudos! | 17:51 |
| tgBot | <bastos777> I see calender. Do Dekko also will display calendar in future? | 17:52 |
| tgBot | <bastos777> looks like Dekko in future can be enhanced to a single communication hub. Would it also be able to manage matrix accounts like thunderbird will hopefully do? | 17:55 |
| tgBot | <Field10pg> @DanChapman, Uaaauuuu | 18:09 |
| tgBot | <DanChapman> @bastos777, Yes that is the plan to do calendar, contacts, notes etc as well | 18:19 |
| nerdboy | cal-dav app? | 18:19 |
| tgBot | <DanChapman> @bastos777, Yes that would be possible. | 18:19 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> CalDAV would be implemented elsewhere, no? | 18:21 |
| tgBot | <DanChapman> It's really just a case of creating a content plugin that dekkod can load. So most messaging formats should work. and a UI plugin to actually show the data | 18:21 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> ooh | 18:21 |
| nerdboy | battery/power control seems all over the place depending on the build installed | 18:22 |
| nerdboy | or i could have one phone with a wonky battery i guess... | 18:23 |
| nerdboy | but, the one updated via dev channel(?) dies when turned off, other phone battery stays charged when turned off | 18:24 |
| nerdboy | go figure... | 18:24 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Hmm, so it isn't shutting down fully? | 18:25 |
| nerdboy | afaict it is | 18:25 |
| nerdboy | uart phone battery seems somewhere in between those two | 18:26 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Maybe we aren't poking the modem correctly to get it to shut down | 18:26 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Or any other component, for that matter | 18:26 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Are your two phones of a similar age, or wildly different? | 18:26 |
| nerdboy | the "good" one still has same install as when i got it | 18:26 |
| nerdboy | the updated one craps out | 18:27 |
| nerdboy | so, you're probably on the right track | 18:27 |
| nerdboy | they all look the same to me, one has black back, one has translucent back | 18:28 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Hmm, I thought these things had the date of manufacture on them | 18:28 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> But they've made small tweaks to the hardware from batch to batch, it seems | 18:28 |
| nerdboy | the updated one has other stability problems, depending on the build | 18:29 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> I'm wondering if there might bea hardware defect in a batch that we don't know about? | 18:29 |
| nerdboy | that's why i kept the other one as-is | 18:29 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> It's more likely it's our software | 18:30 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> But considering the recent recovery issue... | 18:30 |
| nerdboy | didn't notice much difference when they both had the same build installed | 18:30 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Good. | 18:30 |
| nerdboy | only after updating the one phone several times, trying new builds | 18:30 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Shooting from the hip, I'd say we'd want to look at how FairPhone's Open OS does its shutdown. Specifically the modem. I don't trust that thing's blob firmware as far as I can throw it | 18:32 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> But I can throw it pretty far, I guess. | 18:32 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> So that's a bad analogy | 18:32 |
| nerdboy | doing the flashing on debian, although i made some gentoo packages for phablet-flash plus deps | 18:32 |
| nerdboy | i stopeed after the next thing needed a bunch more (unpackaged) python deps | 18:33 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> I don't think it'd be related to the flashing process. | 18:33 |
| nerdboy | build stuff works fine on gentoo | 18:33 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> And ubuntu-device-flash is the only part of phablet-tools that I think we use any more. I think. | 18:33 |
| nerdboy | didn't say it did, just noting a slightly different host os | 18:33 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Right | 18:34 |
| tgBot | <LarreaMikel> @DanChapman, ^^ Great! | 18:49 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> yo wtf phone ? https://youtu.be/h7C6yGgWVX4 | 19:01 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> 12GB ram, 1TB Rom, 60MP front cam | 19:02 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> etc | 19:02 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> oO | 19:02 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> 2x snapdragon 830 processor | 19:06 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Uukei9qG/file_471.mp4 | 19:07 |
| tgBot | <Stereofont> Remember. More megapixels doesn't mean better | 19:09 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> x2 snapdragon | 19:10 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> 12gbram | 19:11 |
| tgBot | <Lyokanthrope> because who needs a phone that lasts for more than an hour anyway | 19:11 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> ported UBports 😆 | 19:11 |
| tgBot | <Lyokanthrope> @Sconio, (also the one in this video has specs similar to the fairphone 2, you're thinking of the Cadenza which was just Turing being dumb) | 19:12 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> @Walid, Not sure. But if i connect my E5 i can access both internal and external storage | 19:22 |
| tgBot | <Walid> And for fairphone 2 worl also ? | 19:24 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> storageask @neothethird | 19:26 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> damn bug! | 19:26 |
| tgBot | <Walid> sd card not work properly for my device, sometime file manager show it, some times no, … and when connected to PC nothing showing , need more debug and test | 19:29 |
| tgBot | <Flohack> I found out it sometimes needs time to show the sd card ;) | 19:30 |
| nerdboy | actually a conflict of interest would more like a ubports dev subverting something for some google-y purpose | 19:35 |
| nerdboy | they're pretty much hands-off the org stuff (orgs just follow the process) and afaik the open source programs people have nothing to do with other google projects | 19:36 |
| nerdboy | i've asked a few of them, and they truly don't know shit about any other google-y stuff... | 19:37 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> Flo | 19:38 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> in UBports installer, i use for my nexus 5, | 19:38 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> what is password ? | 19:39 |
| tgBot | <Fuchur777> @Sconio, Your laptop sudo pw | 19:43 |
| tgBot | <Sconio> oh ok | 19:44 |
| tgBot | <DanChapman> @LarreaMikel, Update dekko from the openstore v0.1.2 to try out what's working so far 😃 | 20:10 |
| tgBot | <DanChapman> still need to do launcher emblem counts and remove notifications that belong to read messages. But it's a start | 20:11 |
| tgBot | <Stereofont> @DanChapman, Which needs delete and then install? | 20:13 |
| tgBot | <DanChapman> Nope just upgrade through openstore | 20:13 |
| tgBot | <Stereofont> Ah ok | 20:14 |
| tgBot | * DanChapman wonders who the first person to update was... | 20:14 |
| tgBot | * Fuchur777 | 20:18 |
| tgBot | <Fuchur777> Right... Haha | 20:19 |
| tgBot | <Andre Büsgen> Anyone using a oneplus one as daily ubports drivee | 20:26 |
| tgBot | <Andre Büsgen> Driver? | 20:27 |
| ubports_bot | Project daily-bacon build #264: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-bacon/264/ | 21:02 |
| ubports_bot | Project ota-push build #986: SUCCESS in 1 min 5 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/986/ | 21:03 |
| tgBot | <Jakob> @DanChapman, Great! Try POP3...works. Messages reach inbox, but deleting don't work for me. Dialog "x message deleted" appear and in 5 or 7 seconds it disappear without deleting the message. | 22:08 |
| tgBot | <mariogrip> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/B59tj88h/file_473.jpg | 22:10 |
| tgBot | <Jakob> Test Notifications for dekko2, it works! Excellent work, Dan. | 22:10 |
| tgBot | <mariogrip> @mariogrip, Running on a nexus 5 at our booth at ubucon | 22:11 |
| tgBot | <Walid> @mariogrip, 👌👍 | 22:12 |
| tgBot | <Jaume Al habla desde el zapatofóno> 👍 | 22:59 |
| tgBot | <arudy> @mariogrip, I didnt saw them ! … /me installing it on m10 | 23:00 |
| tgBot | <Jaume Al habla desde el zapatofóno> What is your opinion about Wire?supergroup. Althought we haven't app for Ubuntu Touch. … I ask to supergroup. | 23:01 |
| * nerdboy would've been GSoC mentor for Gentoo but got sucked into beagleboard.org the one year gentoo wasn't an org... | 23:04 | |
| nerdboy | should be possible to leverage gsoc for a dev or two as well as student "interns" | 23:05 |
| * nerdboy thinking about recruiting ads | 23:09 | |
| tgBot | <Martin> Notifications works 👍. Thanks @DanChapman | 23:09 |
| nerdboy | actually i think software docs (especially developer docs) count as "code" for gsoc | 23:10 |
| * nerdboy trying to unravel the gordian knot of recruiting devs but not having awesome deveoloper docs | 23:12 | |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> nerdboy: damn it, I could have probably made that GSoC cash without stress! | 23:12 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> I do question who you're talking to, though | 23:13 |
| nerdboy | you apparently | 23:14 |
| nerdboy | what stress? i've done it the last three years, ask any questions you want | 23:15 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> I mean, without the stress I acquired from the jobs I had instead of SoC | 23:15 |
| nerdboy | the org suggests projects and normally we get proposals for those plus a bunch of other stuff | 23:16 |
| nerdboy | probably less "other stuff" for more typical orgs | 23:17 |
| nerdboy | one of the suggested ubports projects could certainly be developer/user docs | 23:18 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Or maybe not. You do seem to dislike the docs we have. I wrote lots of 'em. :P | 23:18 |
| nerdboy | i don't "dislike" them per se | 23:18 |
| tgBot | <tsimonq2> @UniversalSuperBox | 23:19 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Thanks Simon | 23:19 |
| tgBot | <tsimonq2> np lol | 23:19 |
| nerdboy | they are just a bit too concise i guess | 23:19 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Oh? Too many assumptions? | 23:19 |
| nerdboy | the best examples are also kind of a high bar | 23:19 |
| nerdboy | mainly gentoo/yocto | 23:20 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Well, sure. I always want to improve though. | 23:20 |
| nerdboy | which is what slaves, er interns are for | 23:20 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> Any specific examples of what needs to be improved? | 23:21 |
| nerdboy | if you're still in school you could be gsoc student, otherwise you'd have to be a mentor | 23:21 |
| tgBot | <UniversalSuperBox> I am. Associate's and not Bachelor's or above, though | 23:22 |
| nerdboy | what did just talk about last night? i'd vote for a "hacking the build setup" doc | 23:22 |
| nerdboy | *we even | 23:22 |
| nerdboy | including some androidian stuff until it goes bye-bye | 23:23 |
| nerdboy | it wasn't too bad for some stuff, mainly the repos tied to the hardware/kernel | 23:23 |
| nerdboy | but it still took a lot of spelunking without any real roadmap | 23:24 |
| nerdboy | luckily i have a little experience hacking build systems | 23:24 |
| nerdboy | but, when it breaks all bets are off and feels like i neevr touched it before | 23:25 |
| nerdboy | if we really need to scope that project then i would try to get a bunch of feedback first | 23:26 |
| nerdboy | probably a survey or two and some draft stuff | 23:27 |
| nerdboy | at least have roadmap for the "full" docs you'd like to have | 23:28 |
| nerdboy | but more than that is recruiting more people to help on the dev side, including docs/community stuff | 23:29 |
| nerdboy | didn't say it was easy, yocto is under linux foundation | 23:30 |
| nerdboy | gentoo *is* a foundation and spent a lot of time working on docs | 23:30 |
| nerdboy | even before i joined in 2003 | 23:31 |
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