| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 04:16 |
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| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| ducasse | morning | 06:16 |
| EriC^^ | morning ducasse | 06:38 |
| ducasse | hi EriC^^, all well today? | 06:45 |
| EriC^^ | yeah, thanks, yourself? | 06:45 |
| ducasse | all good. waking up with a coke and a smoke :) | 06:47 |
| EriC^^ | :) | 06:48 |
| ducasse | looking at my router 'nest', thinking i should straighten out the cable mess there... | 06:50 |
| EriC^^ | nest :D | 06:52 |
| ducasse | that's what it looks like now :) | 06:53 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 14:13 |
| daftykins | hey \o | 14:13 |
| daftykins | what's new? | 14:13 |
| ducasse | hi BluesKaj, enjoying your weekend? | 14:13 |
| BluesKaj | hi ducasse, yes , how about you? | 14:14 |
| BluesKaj | hey daftykins, mucking about with fedora 27 | 14:14 |
| daftykins | ah har | 14:15 |
| ducasse | what do you think? | 14:17 |
| BluesKaj | the networking setup isclunky as hell, it's aful trying to setup a ststic IP. all the documentataion is old and out of date | 14:18 |
| BluesKaj | static IP | 14:19 |
| BluesKaj | they assume everyoe wants to use NM | 14:20 |
| immu | hiyaaa | 14:20 |
| BluesKaj | uhoh KB battery is blinking low power | 14:20 |
| BluesKaj | hi immu | 14:21 |
| ducasse | i started using systemd-networkd on arch, it's actually nice to be able to learn _one_ way to do this and be done with it. | 14:21 |
| BluesKaj | well at least arch doesn't use 5 or 6 different conf files to setup a network interface | 14:22 |
| immu | how many have looked into solus | 14:24 |
| daftykins | seems all distros think you want automagic-and-fail networking :< | 14:24 |
| ducasse | not with networkd, at least, i haven't tried netctl and the other alternatives | 14:24 |
| BluesKaj | fedora looks like pile of multi-scripts that just been added to for every release and never treid to make it a comprehensive simplified system | 14:25 |
| BluesKaj | the networking system that is' | 14:26 |
| ducasse | that was my impression as well when i looked at it, but that was a few releases ago | 14:26 |
| BluesKaj | think it's worse now with systemd in the mix | 14:27 |
| BluesKaj | anyway the packaging system looks like it's received a lot more attention to impress the innocent, but it's also kind of slow and ponderous in the konsole | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | dnf was supposed fix that I think | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | I was interested due it's work on pipewire , but the man is very sketchy | 14:32 |
| BluesKaj | I'll be searching for another test distro to run on the old hdd soon | 14:34 |
| immu | pipewire is work in progress | 14:35 |
| BluesKaj | pipewire has very little progress in real terms atm ... glowing reports don't reflect the reality | 14:37 |
| immu | its meant to eventually replace pulse audio and jack | 14:38 |
| immu | since its fedora's pet project i would be very concerned about it | 14:38 |
| BluesKaj | anyway, gonna switch back to kubuntu...bbiab | 14:39 |
| pauljw | Hi everyone | 14:42 |
| BluesKaj | hey pauljw | 14:43 |
| pauljw | hey BluesKaj, how are you? | 14:43 |
| BluesKaj | pauljw, just fine thanks, and you ? | 14:44 |
| pauljw | doing good, thanks. | 14:44 |
| ducasse | bbiab | 14:50 |
| pauljw | :) | 14:50 |
| pauljw | FYI in case it comes up in support: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2370993 | 15:00 |
| pauljw | some servers are down | 15:00 |
| lotuspsychje | hey guys | 15:11 |
| BluesKaj | hi lotuspsychje | 15:12 |
| lotuspsychje | hey BluesKaj | 15:12 |
| lotuspsychje | wow gnome system settings have been changed nicely | 15:13 |
| lotuspsychje | lemme grab a screen | 15:14 |
| lotuspsychje | http://imgur.com/a/WiCHa | 15:15 |
| immu | yeah | 15:29 |
| lotuspsychje | and change dock positions | 15:29 |
| lotuspsychje | artful is so nice release! | 15:29 |
| ducasse | hi lotuspsychje, having a nice weekend? | 15:34 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: hey mate, a working once :p | 15:34 |
| lotuspsychje | *one | 15:34 |
| immu | ducasse, leaving | 15:35 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: when are you starting the new job? | 15:36 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: 2 october :p | 15:36 |
| ducasse | cool, looking forward to it? | 15:39 |
| immu | what job? which job? ;) | 15:40 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: very, i can also work in between on my days off | 15:42 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: finally more free time i needed | 15:42 |
| ducasse | that will be good, hope they are better at keeping their promises :) | 15:44 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: they sure will, because this restaurant is only open at noon | 15:44 |
| lotuspsychje | a whole world of difference | 15:45 |
| pauljw | hey lotuspsychje :) | 15:46 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: so small service from 11.30 till 14h/15h | 15:46 |
| ducasse | ah, right. well, best of luck! :) | 15:46 |
| lotuspsychje | thanks mate | 15:46 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: weekends off and holidays will do me alotta goods | 15:47 |
| lotuspsychje | hey pauljw | 15:47 |
| pauljw | :) | 15:47 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: found another bug of some sorts | 15:50 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: like a screen glitch in the dock | 15:50 |
| ducasse | could be a driver bug? | 15:51 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure | 15:51 |
| lotuspsychje | lemme imgur it | 15:51 |
| ducasse | pauljw: do you live some place that will be affected by irma? | 15:52 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: on chromium icon: http://imgur.com/a/JE6Iu | 15:52 |
| lotuspsychje | irma is WOW! | 15:52 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: try opening the icon file, could be file corruption | 15:53 |
| lotuspsychje | i did open chromium doesnt change | 15:54 |
| lotuspsychje | lemme try remove and re-add | 15:54 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: no, i mean the right chromium-browser.png or whatever it is | 15:54 |
| lotuspsychje | oh | 15:55 |
| lotuspsychje | wich folder is that again? | 15:55 |
| ducasse | /usr/share/icons/<theme> | 15:55 |
| lotuspsychje | wow more folders | 15:57 |
| lotuspsychje | hey EriC^^ | 15:59 |
| pauljw | ducasse, not really, we're expecting some rain out of it, that's about it. i'm in Indiana, the middle of the country. | 15:59 |
| EriC^^ | hey lotuspsychje | 15:59 |
| pauljw | EriC^^ | 15:59 |
| EriC^^ | hey pauljw :) | 15:59 |
| pauljw | :) | 15:59 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: /usr/share/applications shows a full chromium icon | 16:01 |
| ducasse | pauljw: good, i guess a hurricane would dissipate most of it's energy before it got that far inland | 16:02 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: checkout new gnome settings and movable dock: http://imgur.com/a/WiCHa | 16:02 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: try resizing the dock? | 16:02 |
| lotuspsychje | good idea | 16:02 |
| lotuspsychje | bingo! | 16:03 |
| pauljw | yeah, even as big as irma is, landmass takes the energy out of them. | 16:03 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: it worked? | 16:03 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: size 36 glitches it, all other sizes fixes it! | 16:04 |
| pauljw | :) | 16:04 |
| EriC^^ | looks good! | 16:04 |
| EriC^^ | is that wayland? | 16:04 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: its not final, so not sure | 16:04 |
| EriC^^ | so clean though | 16:05 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: lotuspsychje@ArtfullBOX:~$ ps -e | grep X | 16:05 |
| lotuspsychje | 923 tty1 00:10:19 Xorg | 16:05 |
| EriC^^ | aha | 16:05 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: that would count as a bug right? | 16:06 |
| lotuspsychje | lemme add a full dock icons | 16:06 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: i'd think so, could be a problem resizing the icon file to fit the dock at 36x36 | 16:06 |
| ducasse | ask in +1 if anyone can confirm | 16:07 |
| ducasse | (i'd do it, but i really don't want to install all of gnome) | 16:08 |
| lotuspsychje | only chromium glitches, weird | 16:08 |
| lotuspsychje | got a full dock with icons now | 16:08 |
| lotuspsychje | replacing to other place doesnt fix | 16:08 |
| ducasse | try reinstalling chromium-browser, maybe the theme as well - not sure where it gets the icon from | 16:11 |
| ducasse | (icon theme, that is) | 16:12 |
| lotuspsychje | lemme try that | 16:12 |
| lotuspsychje | purging | 16:12 |
| ducasse | there is /usr/share/pixmaps/chromium-browser.png in chromium-browser, could be that | 16:13 |
| lotuspsychje | reinstalling | 16:14 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: fixxed now | 16:16 |
| ducasse | so, probably bad file | 16:16 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah, tnx for help | 16:16 |
| ducasse | np | 16:17 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: do you remember a guy in +1 having problems with a snap the other day? i can't remember who else was present... | 16:17 |
| lotuspsychje | pixmaps show correct png | 16:17 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: i remember a snap discussion, but not sure it was +1, what was it about again? | 16:18 |
| ducasse | js error when trying to run, it was an electron app | 16:19 |
| ducasse | anyway, today someone else had the exact same problem with a different snap, also electron based | 16:19 |
| lotuspsychje | hmm | 16:19 |
| lotuspsychje | no cant recall something about that | 16:20 |
| ducasse | we should keep an eye open, see if it happens to others | 16:21 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: remember wich day it was? | 16:21 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: got it: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/09/08/%23ubuntu+1.html | 16:22 |
| lotuspsychje | ballyhoo | 16:22 |
| ducasse | yes, that was the last one (i didn't see it until this morning), there was one earlier. pretty sure it was in +1, since it definitely was for artful. | 16:26 |
| ducasse | yep, thursday | 16:28 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: i guess snaps the owner is responsable for, so we will get nice snaps and not so nice snaps? | 16:28 |
| immu | folks | 16:29 |
| immu | does any one remember place value of maths?> | 16:29 |
| ducasse | idk, but this only seems to affect some people, and only on artful | 16:30 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/why-electron-apps-arent-bad-2 | 16:33 |
| lotuspsychje | didnt find usefull artful bugs yet | 16:33 |
| ducasse | i'll look into it further tomorrow, but maybe this could be an artful bug | 16:38 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 16:39 |
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