[04:16] good morning to all === JanC is now known as Guest88403 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [06:16] morning [06:38] morning ducasse [06:45] hi EriC^^, all well today? [06:45] yeah, thanks, yourself? [06:47] all good. waking up with a coke and a smoke :) [06:48] :) [06:50] looking at my router 'nest', thinking i should straighten out the cable mess there... [06:52] nest :D [06:53] that's what it looks like now :) [14:13] Hiyas all [14:13] hey \o [14:13] what's new? [14:13] hi BluesKaj, enjoying your weekend? [14:14] hi ducasse, yes , how about you? [14:14] hey daftykins, mucking about with fedora 27 [14:15] ah har [14:17] what do you think? [14:18] the networking setup isclunky as hell, it's aful trying to setup a ststic IP. all the documentataion is old and out of date [14:19] static IP [14:20] they assume everyoe wants to use NM [14:20] hiyaaa [14:20] uhoh KB battery is blinking low power [14:21] hi immu [14:21] i started using systemd-networkd on arch, it's actually nice to be able to learn _one_ way to do this and be done with it. [14:22] well at least arch doesn't use 5 or 6 different conf files to setup a network interface [14:24] how many have looked into solus [14:24] seems all distros think you want automagic-and-fail networking :< [14:24] not with networkd, at least, i haven't tried netctl and the other alternatives [14:25] fedora looks like pile of multi-scripts that just been added to for every release and never treid to make it a comprehensive simplified system [14:26] the networking system that is' [14:26] that was my impression as well when i looked at it, but that was a few releases ago [14:27] think it's worse now with systemd in the mix [14:30] anyway the packaging system looks like it's received a lot more attention to impress the innocent, but it's also kind of slow and ponderous in the konsole [14:30] dnf was supposed fix that I think [14:32] I was interested due it's work on pipewire , but the man is very sketchy [14:34] I'll be searching for another test distro to run on the old hdd soon [14:35] pipewire is work in progress [14:37] pipewire has very little progress in real terms atm ... glowing reports don't reflect the reality [14:38] its meant to eventually replace pulse audio and jack [14:38] since its fedora's pet project i would be very concerned about it [14:39] anyway, gonna switch back to kubuntu...bbiab [14:42] Hi everyone [14:43] hey pauljw [14:43] hey BluesKaj, how are you? [14:44] pauljw, just fine thanks, and you ? [14:44] doing good, thanks. [14:50] bbiab [14:50] :) [15:00] FYI in case it comes up in support: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2370993 [15:00] some servers are down [15:11] hey guys [15:12] hi lotuspsychje [15:12] hey BluesKaj [15:13] wow gnome system settings have been changed nicely [15:14] lemme grab a screen [15:15] http://imgur.com/a/WiCHa [15:29] yeah [15:29] and change dock positions [15:29] artful is so nice release! [15:34] hi lotuspsychje, having a nice weekend? [15:34] ducasse: hey mate, a working once :p [15:34] *one [15:35] ducasse, leaving [15:36] lotuspsychje: when are you starting the new job? [15:36] ducasse: 2 october :p [15:39] cool, looking forward to it? [15:40] what job? which job? ;) [15:42] ducasse: very, i can also work in between on my days off [15:42] ducasse: finally more free time i needed [15:44] that will be good, hope they are better at keeping their promises :) [15:44] ducasse: they sure will, because this restaurant is only open at noon [15:45] a whole world of difference [15:46] hey lotuspsychje :) [15:46] ducasse: so small service from 11.30 till 14h/15h [15:46] ah, right. well, best of luck! :) [15:46] thanks mate [15:47] ducasse: weekends off and holidays will do me alotta goods [15:47] hey pauljw [15:47] :) [15:50] ducasse: found another bug of some sorts [15:50] ducasse: like a screen glitch in the dock [15:51] could be a driver bug? [15:51] not sure [15:51] lemme imgur it [15:52] pauljw: do you live some place that will be affected by irma? [15:52] ducasse: on chromium icon: http://imgur.com/a/JE6Iu [15:52] irma is WOW! [15:53] lotuspsychje: try opening the icon file, could be file corruption [15:54] i did open chromium doesnt change [15:54] lemme try remove and re-add [15:54] lotuspsychje: no, i mean the right chromium-browser.png or whatever it is [15:55] oh [15:55] wich folder is that again? [15:55] /usr/share/icons/ [15:57] wow more folders [15:59] hey EriC^^ [15:59] ducasse, not really, we're expecting some rain out of it, that's about it. i'm in Indiana, the middle of the country. [15:59] hey lotuspsychje [15:59] EriC^^ [15:59] hey pauljw :) [15:59] :) [16:01] ducasse: /usr/share/applications shows a full chromium icon [16:02] pauljw: good, i guess a hurricane would dissipate most of it's energy before it got that far inland [16:02] EriC^^: checkout new gnome settings and movable dock: http://imgur.com/a/WiCHa [16:02] lotuspsychje: try resizing the dock? [16:02] good idea [16:03] bingo! [16:03] yeah, even as big as irma is, landmass takes the energy out of them. [16:03] lotuspsychje: it worked? [16:04] ducasse: size 36 glitches it, all other sizes fixes it! [16:04] :) [16:04] looks good! [16:04] is that wayland? [16:04] EriC^^: its not final, so not sure [16:05] so clean though [16:05] EriC^^: lotuspsychje@ArtfullBOX:~$ ps -e | grep X [16:05] 923 tty1 00:10:19 Xorg [16:05] aha [16:06] ducasse: that would count as a bug right? [16:06] lemme add a full dock icons [16:06] lotuspsychje: i'd think so, could be a problem resizing the icon file to fit the dock at 36x36 [16:07] ask in +1 if anyone can confirm [16:08] (i'd do it, but i really don't want to install all of gnome) [16:08] only chromium glitches, weird [16:08] got a full dock with icons now [16:08] replacing to other place doesnt fix [16:11] try reinstalling chromium-browser, maybe the theme as well - not sure where it gets the icon from [16:12] (icon theme, that is) [16:12] lemme try that [16:12] purging [16:13] there is /usr/share/pixmaps/chromium-browser.png in chromium-browser, could be that [16:14] reinstalling [16:16] ducasse: fixxed now [16:16] so, probably bad file [16:16] yeah, tnx for help [16:17] np [16:17] lotuspsychje: do you remember a guy in +1 having problems with a snap the other day? i can't remember who else was present... [16:17] pixmaps show correct png [16:18] ducasse: i remember a snap discussion, but not sure it was +1, what was it about again? [16:19] js error when trying to run, it was an electron app [16:19] anyway, today someone else had the exact same problem with a different snap, also electron based [16:19] hmm [16:20] no cant recall something about that [16:21] we should keep an eye open, see if it happens to others [16:21] ducasse: remember wich day it was? [16:22] ducasse: got it: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/09/08/%23ubuntu+1.html [16:22] ballyhoo [16:26] yes, that was the last one (i didn't see it until this morning), there was one earlier. pretty sure it was in +1, since it definitely was for artful. [16:28] yep, thursday [16:28] ducasse: i guess snaps the owner is responsable for, so we will get nice snaps and not so nice snaps? [16:29] folks [16:29] does any one remember place value of maths?> [16:30] idk, but this only seems to affect some people, and only on artful [16:33] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/why-electron-apps-arent-bad-2 [16:33] didnt find usefull artful bugs yet [16:38] i'll look into it further tomorrow, but maybe this could be an artful bug [16:39] yeah