[04:01] <breetai> How do you add a new splash screen ????
[07:19] <Anabioz> hi
[07:41] <DanaKil> hello ! I'd like to report a bug but maybe someone can confirm it before ? It's very quick and easy. When I shade a window (so there is only the titlebar left) and minimize it in the taskbar, the window is automatically unshaded when I restore it (click on this window entry in the taskbar)
[08:55] <obert> hey
[08:56] <obert> what means after a sudo apt-get upgrade 'The following packages have been kept back', please?
[09:02] <acheronuk> that some changes need to be made for the upgrade that 'apt-get upgrade' may not be able to handle
[09:02] <acheronuk> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man8/apt-get.8.html
[09:02] <acheronuk> 'New versions of
[09:02] <acheronuk>            currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without
[09:02] <acheronuk>            changing the install status of another package will be left at
[09:02] <acheronuk>            their current version'
[09:03] <acheronuk> so may need 'dist-upgrade' instead
[09:04] <obert> but I got the latest version already
[09:04] <obert> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[09:05] <obert> I don't remember the command
[09:07] <obert> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[09:07] <obert> correct acheronuk?
[09:08] <acheronuk> No!
[09:08] <obert> -.-
[09:08] <acheronuk> I mean 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' is correct
[09:09] <acheronuk> do-release-upgrade is to upgrade you whole system to a new Kubuntu release entirely
[09:09] <acheronuk> BIG difference!
[09:10] <obert> new thing learned
[09:10] <acheronuk> but even with the 1st, check carefully what it proposed to do, before you accept.
[09:11] <obert> can be there issues?
[09:12] <acheronuk> not usually if the sources you have are official ones or ppas where people have tested properly, as anything it proposed to remove should be required or intentional
[09:14] <acheronuk> but wise to check what it intends to do to, in case the 'intelligent' part of it fails and it wants to do something 'dumb' :P
[09:16] <obert> how to know what's dumb? :P
[09:16] <obert> I am not a pro in linux
[09:17] <acheronuk> weel, use common sense. if is say for kubuntu says it will remove 'plasma-desktop' and not replace it with a new version, that would be 'dumb'
[09:18] <acheronuk> *if it say for kubuntu says
[09:19] <obert> oh ok
[09:19] <obert> thanks acheronuk
[09:27] <viewer|3263> I just updated my kubuntu 17.4 installation and rebooted - Now the login screen appears, and I can enter my pwd. - but then it get's stuck. Is there anything I can do?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:15] <BluesKaj> !webmin
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[12:48] <L``> Hey guys. Installed a widget, put it on the taskbar, now plasmashell crashes on start. I tried killall and then kstart. What do?
[13:25] <aa_> wow, konversation auto joined me!
[13:25] <aa_> Hi everyone
[13:26] <aa_> after about 20 years of linux I finally love KDE. Great work.
[13:26] <aa_> :)
[14:38] <L``> Well, I fixed i
[14:39] <L``> by way of random googled commands and reinstalling stuff
[14:48] <mib222> Hy. Is release process the same for beta images as is it for the final images? I'm asking because I want to install beta on my broken instalation or should I wait for final release in october?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> mib222, that depends on whether you're a home user or work/production user that needs stability
[15:12] <BluesKaj> I'm on Artful beta 1 and it's very stable for a development release, however there no gurantees that yours will be the same due to different hardware and required apps
[15:19] <mib222> Well I'm home user. I also understand the quirks that may come with beta releases, which I can handle for a month until the final release.
[15:19] <mib222> I'm trying figure out if I install beta right now is it recomended to reinstall kubuntu again after the final release or can I do apt-get upgrade  and my sistem will be the same as if installed from final relase image?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> yes, you can upgrade the beta to the final release by just updating. upgrading and full upgrade with apt after the official release is available in the the repos. If you update and upgrade the beta periodically then you'l be very close to the final release even before the official release date.
[15:25] <BluesKaj> you have to install beta 1 as a new clean install tho
[15:27] <mib222> of course, thats exactly what I will do, because my sistem is slow as hell at the moment and i want to try new IO shcedulers
[15:27] <mib222> thank you verry much for the explanation
[15:30] <BluesKaj> mib222, not sure if there's a new clean install required for the final beta
[15:31] <BluesKaj> here's the release schedule
[15:31] <BluesKaj> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule
[15:39] <mib222> thanks, loks like final beta is only two weeks and half away, so I will probabbly wait until then
[15:48] <BluesKaj> right
[18:01] <mparillo> mib222: And if you do install Beta2, please head over to #kubuntu-devel and share your experiences.
[19:23] <mib222> mparillo, I will do that
[19:42] <nmrp3> hi - I've got a buggy mouse pointer - it is dragging the background with it
[19:44] <nmrp3> particularly bad with mouse clicks or if a tooltip pops us
[19:44] <nmrp3> I've done a full update. running nvidia 375.66
[20:59] <Mrokii> How can I restart kwin (or possibly the desktop session) from a virtual console.
[21:24] <hassoon> is it common for you guys that the kubuntu installers hungs up in 33% for a while?
 @Mrokii, too late I guess, but I restart de desktop session with sudo systemctl restart sddm
 and Good day everyone!