| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> @acheronuk @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=875107 | 00:20 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/packaging/qt4/ | 02:11 |
| valorie | very nice, tsimonq2 | 04:43 |
| tsimonq2 | :) | 04:43 |
| valorie | just got back from working at the cabin and going to the meeting about the fire, and then eating dinner after | 04:43 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: irt LFNW or KDE 4 removal? | 04:43 |
| valorie | I feel much better after doing that work | 04:43 |
| valorie | cool on both | 04:44 |
| tsimonq2 | :D | 04:44 |
| valorie | I assume you checked the reverse-dependencies? | 04:44 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: For kdesudo or for all of them? | 04:45 |
| tsimonq2 | Because with kdesudo, yep. | 04:45 |
| valorie | all of them | 04:45 |
| valorie | kdesudo is should be gone, asap | 04:46 |
| valorie | IMO | 04:46 |
| tsimonq2 | Just removed from Debian today | 04:46 |
| valorie | I saw that | 04:46 |
| tsimonq2 | I want Clive's and Rik's opinion to see if it should be removed along with the KDE 4 stuff next cycle or ASAP | 04:46 |
| valorie | I mean it should be removed from our packageset | 04:46 |
| valorie | archive removal, whatever | 04:47 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: Removed from packageset =/ archive removal :) | 04:47 |
| tsimonq2 | We shouldn't shun it, we should remove it | 04:47 |
| tsimonq2 | It's a liability | 04:47 |
| tsimonq2 | But I'm assuming Debian did an rdep check before asking for removal... | 04:48 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm just tracking packages Debian is removing to make sure it's on our radar to remove in Ubuntu as well. | 04:48 |
| tsimonq2 | Next cycle or the one after we need to do a large KDE 4 removal. | 04:48 |
| valorie | yes | 04:48 |
| tsimonq2 | I disagree with Santa when he says that it removes lots of functionality. | 04:48 |
| tsimonq2 | There's a *lot* of stuff ported to Frameworks 5/Qt 5 | 04:49 |
| valorie | well, partially ported | 04:49 |
| tsimonq2 | And removing the packages deprecated upstream in Apps 17.12 will be a HUGE help | 04:49 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: No, a lot is wholly ported | 04:49 |
| valorie | *some* stuff has been fully ported | 04:49 |
| tsimonq2 | Fair. | 04:49 |
| valorie | some has been left behind | 04:49 |
| valorie | and will probably never be ported | 04:49 |
| tsimonq2 | My *personal* goal is to get Qt 4 completely and fully out the door no later than the 18.10 release. | 04:50 |
| valorie | and the rest -- we should help with the porting if it is important | 04:50 |
| tsimonq2 | A lot of that is going to be work in Debian, which I'm involved in. | 04:50 |
| tsimonq2 | For example I'll be doing a QA upload soon to update to a new upstream version. | 04:50 |
| tsimonq2 | etc. etc. etc. | 04:50 |
| valorie | nice | 04:50 |
| valorie | I appreciate that | 04:50 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: You know what I mean when I say QA upload | 04:51 |
| valorie | so do you plan to do a full Lub. release of lxqt? | 04:51 |
| tsimonq2 | And yeah, it's going to need to be a large effort in Debian first :) | 04:51 |
| valorie | right | 04:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Yep, 17.10 will be the first release with Lubuntu and Lubuntu Next | 04:51 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: (Q about QA upload is a question :P) | 04:52 |
| valorie | oh, not entirely | 04:52 |
| valorie | I know what QA *is* | 04:52 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: So you know how Debian has the concept of maintainers? | 04:53 |
| valorie | but not exactly what you are planning to upload | 04:53 |
| valorie | yes | 04:53 |
| tsimonq2 | When a package is in the archive but has no maintainer, that's an orphaned package | 04:53 |
| valorie | per package, right | 04:53 |
| tsimonq2 | The QA Team is the "maintainer" for orphaned packages | 04:53 |
| tsimonq2 | Everyone can be on the QA Team | 04:53 |
| valorie | I've read the Policy Manual | 04:53 |
| tsimonq2 | So yeah, I'll be working in Debian to do QA uploads, maybe even Non Maintainer Uploads if necessary, to get all of this ported over | 04:54 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: Honestly, you'd be surprised how much is being deprecated and how much isn't | 04:55 |
| tsimonq2 | Good chunks of things are going out the window, lots, well, aren't. | 04:55 |
| valorie | ok, you are talking "porting" in Debian terms | 04:56 |
| tsimonq2 | No | 04:57 |
| valorie | whereas I was talking in KDE terms | 04:57 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm talking, porting to Qt 5 | 04:57 |
| tsimonq2 | Like, I want to get all of the revdeps of Qt 4, which includes lots of KDE, removed or ported | 04:57 |
| valorie | ok, but it is often necessary to also port away from the kde4libsupport or whatever that is named | 04:57 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah | 04:57 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm saying that too | 04:58 |
| valorie | that's what I mean by fully ported | 04:58 |
| valorie | that part is fully gone | 04:58 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeahp. | 04:58 |
| valorie | some games and such will never make the jump unless they gain maintainers who do it | 04:58 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: kdesudo for example was still KDE 3 but using the compatibility layer that comes with KDE 4 to functio. | 04:58 |
| tsimonq2 | s/functio/function/ | 04:58 |
| valorie | much of the easy stuff has been done | 04:58 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: Well, that's just what it'll be. If there's enough interest, someone will port it. | 04:59 |
| valorie | right, which is why we both want it gone | 04:59 |
| valorie | yep | 04:59 |
| valorie | I've talked people into becoming maintainers | 04:59 |
| valorie | it doesn't take much work, for some stuff | 04:59 |
| tsimonq2 | I *might* port some stuff if I find the game entertaining but no promises there | 04:59 |
| valorie | just be careful not to overextend yourself | 05:02 |
| tsimonq2 | That's why I say no promises :P | 05:02 |
| valorie | you're in school and that has to be priority ONE | 05:02 |
| tsimonq2 | I've been keeping myself busy | 05:02 |
| valorie | cool | 05:03 |
| tsimonq2 | Retaking Geometry this year, this new teacher is a bit more lax about homework, that's exactly what I need. | 05:03 |
| tsimonq2 | Otherwise I'm managing my time better this year/ | 05:03 |
| valorie | good to hear | 05:04 |
| valorie | sounds like boring old "maturity" is sneaking up on ya | 05:04 |
| tsimonq2 | Meh, I slept all day today so I might be pulling the all nighter :P | 05:05 |
| valorie | oh good lord dude | 05:06 |
| tsimonq2 | One thing I got a lot better at over the summer is going longer without sleep and a functioning brain | 05:06 |
| valorie | make it a half-nighter at least! | 05:06 |
| valorie | no, you are killing brain cells | 05:06 |
| valorie | sleep is not for the weak, it is necessary to stay healthy | 05:07 |
| tsimonq2 | *shrug* I don't do it too often so I think I'll be fine. | 05:07 |
| valorie | ok | 05:07 |
| valorie | well, enjoy it while ya can | 05:07 |
| valorie | I used to be able to do it and just can't function without sleep anymore | 05:07 |
| tsimonq2 | This endless grind... I can't wait until I have more free time for what I love doing | 05:07 |
| valorie | getting old sucks sometimes | 05:07 |
| valorie | lol | 05:07 |
| tsimonq2 | Meh, it is what it is, people change over time | 05:08 |
| valorie | there is always a grind | 05:08 |
| tsimonq2 | Sometimes the grind is more enjoyable than other times | 05:08 |
| valorie | you have to focus on doing what you love and just make the rest so routine that you hardly notice it | 05:08 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah | 05:08 |
| valorie | I used to hate yardwork | 05:08 |
| valorie | now I love to just help the plants grow | 05:09 |
| tsimonq2 | You? Hate yardwork? :O | 05:09 |
| valorie | different mindset | 05:09 |
| tsimonq2 | You love to keep your garden up afair! | 05:09 |
| valorie | I love the plants, not the work | 05:09 |
| tsimonq2 | It's pretty cool looking too :3 | 05:09 |
| tsimonq2 | Ah ok | 05:09 |
| valorie | but the work is necessary | 05:09 |
| tsimonq2 | Sure | 05:09 |
| valorie | so rather than crabbing internally about it, I just get on with it | 05:09 |
| tsimonq2 | mhm | 05:10 |
| valorie | yes, it's the work of 40+ years | 05:10 |
| tsimonq2 | :D | 05:10 |
| tsimonq2 | I have a few bits of misc homework I need to get done but I mostly want to get that out of the way so I can get some Ubuntu/Debian stuff done tonight | 05:11 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm enjoying school a bit more this year so far | 05:11 |
| valorie | good! | 05:11 |
| tsimonq2 | While yes it's 8 hours of grind, I'm more interested in the topics | 05:11 |
| valorie | people will be happy tomorrow because | 05:12 |
| valorie | y'all beat our Seahawks | 05:12 |
| tsimonq2 | oh lolll | 05:12 |
| tsimonq2 | What was the score? | 05:12 |
| tsimonq2 | I didn't even pay attention to that... :P | 05:12 |
| valorie | uh, like 17 / 8 or so? | 05:12 |
| tsimonq2 | Ah ok | 05:12 |
| valorie | we were working and not listening | 05:13 |
| tsimonq2 | ic | 05:13 |
| valorie | not that I really care, but my one son does | 05:13 |
| tsimonq2 | Thomas? | 05:13 |
| valorie | no, Paul | 05:13 |
| tsimonq2 | Ah ok | 05:13 |
| tsimonq2 | If it was Thomas you should have told him I'm in GB :P | 05:13 |
| valorie | and the guy who runs our fav. restaurant is a cheesehead | 05:13 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh that's right, you told me about that | 05:14 |
| valorie | so he'll be crowing on Wed. | 05:14 |
| valorie | lol | 05:14 |
| tsimonq2 | Is that the diner you took me to Friday morning at LFNW or is that not your fav one? :P | 05:14 |
| tsimonq2 | lol | 05:14 |
| valorie | morning? | 05:14 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah it was barely morning :P | 05:14 |
| tsimonq2 | Almost afternoon! | 05:15 |
| valorie | I'm not remembering | 05:15 |
| tsimonq2 | We had pancakes and I watched you drink your creamer with a hint of coffee :P | 05:15 |
| tsimonq2 | You took your husband and I to a thing in Seattiel | 05:15 |
| valorie | oh, no, Mike doesn't serve breakfast | 05:15 |
| tsimonq2 | s/Seattiel/Seattle/ | 05:15 |
| tsimonq2 | Ah ok | 05:15 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 05:15 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: But you at least remember that right? | 05:15 |
| valorie | that was some chain! | 05:16 |
| valorie | like Denny's or something | 05:16 |
| valorie | it was ..... | 05:16 |
| tsimonq2 | No? | 05:16 |
| valorie | yes, I do | 05:16 |
| tsimonq2 | Or was it? | 05:16 |
| valorie | now | 05:16 |
| valorie | it had breakfast | 05:16 |
| tsimonq2 | Like I said, I remember you had your creamer with a hint of coffee :P | 05:16 |
| valorie | the local place would have been memorable | 05:16 |
| valorie | lol | 05:16 |
| valorie | I usually have milk | 05:17 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh | 05:17 |
| tsimonq2 | Well same difference? | 05:17 |
| * tsimonq2 runs | 05:17 | |
| valorie | anyway, do your homework!!! | 05:17 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah, I prolly should :P | 05:17 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: Have a good night | 05:17 |
| valorie | niters | 05:17 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2017/09/quick-look-at-kubuntu-artful-pre-release.html | 07:14 |
| IrcsomeBot | * acheronuk pokes @ahoneybun | 12:06 |
| IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> you ok? | 12:06 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I'm alive just have no power | 17:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Have to move around to get phone service | 17:31 |
| valorie | wow, that's a lovely review | 19:31 |
| valorie | who tweets and toots for the Kubuntu account? | 19:31 |
| valorie | I'd like RT that | 19:31 |
| valorie | how are you, ahoneybun? | 19:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I'm fine, no power or internet but ehh | 20:37 |
| clivejo | could be weeks before they get that all sorted out | 20:38 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> It could | 20:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I don't think our power pole is that bad tho | 20:47 |
| valorie | well, they fix stuff in order of how many people it will help | 20:48 |
| valorie | which is why we were without power for over a week one time | 20:48 |
| valorie | now that we have gas, at least one can always take a hot shower | 20:49 |
| clivejo | yeah, I'd love to know how RichardF does the maps on http://cycle.travel/map?from=51.941425,-0.917313&suggest=1 | 22:00 |
| clivejo | ah fiddle sticks | 22:00 |
| clivejo | Closing the poll | 22:01 |
| clivejo | hummm | 22:02 |
| clivejo | a tie | 22:03 |
| clivejo | what happens in the case of a tie? | 22:04 |
| acheronuk | shoot out? | 22:07 |
| clivejo | only fair way | 22:07 |
| acheronuk | paper scissors rock? | 22:07 |
| clivejo | LOL I dunno | 22:08 |
| acheronuk | valorie: hellllllllllllllllllllllllp? | 22:08 |
| acheronuk | I didn't think cvs would allow a tie. maybe I misread | 22:10 |
| clivejo | I didn't either :/ | 22:10 |
| clivejo | but no matter what rule I use, same results | 22:11 |
| clivejo | if we had one more voter, would have settled it | 22:12 |
| acheronuk | does the community council ours is delegated from have a policy? | 22:13 |
| acheronuk | which placing is the tie on? | 22:15 |
| clivejo | 3rd seat | 22:15 |
| acheronuk | damn! | 22:16 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I didn't vote as I had my name in | 22:16 |
| valorie | I've never heard of a tie! | 22:16 |
| valorie | wth ahoneybun, why not? | 22:16 |
| valorie | there were others running | 22:16 |
| valorie | and a lower vote count does not look good | 22:16 |
| valorie | looks like people don't care | 22:16 |
| wxl | i voted | 22:16 |
| clivejo | 19 votes out of 41 | 22:17 |
| valorie | we want people to step up, nominate themselves and of course vote for themselves if they think they are the best person for the job | 22:17 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Who's in 4? | 22:17 |
| wxl | there's no 4 | 22:17 |
| wxl | there's 3 and 3 | 22:17 |
| clivejo | aaron can you send me your vote? | 22:17 |
| * wxl points at the definition of a tie | 22:18 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I didn't vote lol | 22:18 |
| wxl | he's asking you too | 22:18 |
| clivejo | well if I take your word for that, and you send me how you would of voted | 22:19 |
| wxl | (maybe the hurricane affected his mind?) XD | 22:19 |
| clivejo | might be able to break the tie | 22:19 |
| valorie | as the person running the vote, you have the right to break the tie I would think | 22:20 |
| valorie | and asking Aaron for his vote seems reasonable to me | 22:20 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: did you not vote? | 22:20 |
| clivejo | I did | 22:20 |
| valorie | good | 22:20 |
| valorie | I hope everyone voted | 22:21 |
| acheronuk | oh, thought you said you would not as you were running the poll. | 22:21 |
| acheronuk | ^^^ that made no sense to me | 22:21 |
| clivejo | I couldn't run for election | 22:21 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Well internet kinda does not work great right now | 22:21 |
| clivejo | Telegram me | 22:21 |
| clivejo | PM | 22:22 |
| clivejo | just your list of 1,2,3,4 you would have voted | 22:22 |
| acheronuk | this is nail biting! | 22:23 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I emailed but it's not sent yet | 22:23 |
| * clivejo plays suspense building music | 22:23 | |
| * acheronuk wonders if the Russians hacked the vote | 22:24 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Trying to send it now clivejo | 22:24 |
| clivejo | ok got it | 22:25 |
| valorie | \o/ | 22:26 |
| acheronuk | *** drum roll *** | 22:26 |
| clivejo | so with that vote counted the results are 1) Rik Mills 2) Aaron Honeycutt 3) Rick Timmis | 22:26 |
| valorie | cool | 22:26 |
| wxl | congrats everywhere! | 22:26 |
| acheronuk | O_O | 22:26 |
| valorie | acheronuk: <3 | 22:27 |
| wxl | acheronuk: now now, don't be modest. | 22:27 |
| acheronuk | don't know what to say, except thanks any where who voted like that! | 22:28 |
| acheronuk | + I'll try to live up to that | 22:28 |
| acheronuk | *thanks any one | 22:28 |
| acheronuk | to all actually, that was clearly close | 22:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> XD Rik | 22:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/qISVCped/file_3219.jpg | 22:29 |
| acheronuk | congrats Aaron on another term :) and Rick on a great result for a great guy | 22:30 |
| clivejo | valorie: can you do the honors | 22:30 |
| clivejo | bring the KC back up to full numbers | 22:30 |
| acheronuk | tsimonq2: sooooo close. that says a lot as well. | 22:30 |
| valorie | can I do what honors? | 22:31 |
| valorie | you need to announce the results on all the lists | 22:31 |
| clivejo | add the 3 names to KC team | 22:31 |
| valorie | oh certainly | 22:31 |
| valorie | sorry, I just looked at the updated fire map and it looks like it hopped over the highway towards our cabin | 22:32 |
| valorie | but the announcements don't say anything | 22:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Probably post it | 22:32 |
| valorie | yikes, Rick's name is spelled incorrectly, isn't it? | 22:32 |
| valorie | it's Timmis? | 22:33 |
| clivejo | yes, my fault | 22:33 |
| valorie | or Timmus | 22:33 |
| clivejo | Timmis | 22:33 |
| acheronuk | lol. yes, we realised as soon as the ballots went out | 22:33 |
| acheronuk | the Rik vs Rick was the right way around though :P | 22:34 |
| clivejo | yeah thanks ahoneybun! | 22:34 |
| clivejo | pointing it out, after I sent the ballots! | 22:34 |
| valorie | done | 22:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I told you lol | 22:37 |
| clivejo | yeah AFTER! | 22:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I did not proof read it | 22:38 |
| clivejo | tisk | 22:38 |
| clivejo | tuts | 22:38 |
| valorie | clivejo: I don't see the results in my email yet? | 22:39 |
| valorie | congratulations to all the winners by the way | 22:40 |
| valorie | sorry tsimonq2 | 22:40 |
| clivejo | hold your horses speed goz allie | 22:40 |
| acheronuk | valorie: are not all KC meant to be admins on the team? | 22:40 |
| valorie | lol | 22:40 |
| valorie | oh, I didn't do that, duh | 22:40 |
| acheronuk | no probs | 22:40 |
| valorie | done | 22:42 |
| valorie | separate step done in another dialog | 22:42 |
| acheronuk | LP doesn't make it easy | 22:42 |
| valorie | you can tell it was coded long ago | 22:43 |
| valorie | oh well | 22:43 |
| valorie | it's what we've got and it usually works | 22:43 |
| valorie | who has the keys to the kubuntu twitter/mastodon? | 22:44 |
| valorie | this should be tweeted: http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2017/09/quick-look-at-kubuntu-artful-pre-release.html | 22:45 |
| acheronuk | I think Aaron, Ovi and maybe mparrilo? | 22:45 |
| valorie | and I guess I should write a news story for the website | 22:45 |
| valorie | want to reply to the email first | 22:45 |
| valorie | then once we have a story on teh site, tweet that | 22:45 |
| acheronuk | https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/907338871096184833 | 22:46 |
| valorie | aha, the site is done | 22:46 |
| valorie | cool | 22:46 |
| acheronuk | so looks like someone tweeted that review | 22:47 |
| valorie | probably Mparillo | 22:48 |
| acheronuk | Wish I could have seen clive's face when he saw a tie :P | 22:53 |
| clivejo | was like "oh feck" | 22:54 |
| clivejo | why did I volunteer to do this! | 22:54 |
| valorie | hehe | 22:55 |
| acheronuk | anything else I need to do? | 23:01 |
| * acheronuk hands clive a large JD to calm his nerves | 23:07 | |
| * clivejo shaking so bad the ice is rattling like crazy | 23:08 | |
| valorie | can someone check this before I publish? | 23:17 |
| valorie | https://kubuntu.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=3383&action=edit | 23:17 |
| valorie | thank you so much for running the election, Clive | 23:17 |
| acheronuk | seems ok to me | 23:20 |
| acheronuk | and yes, thank you clive :) | 23:20 |
| valorie | ok, added one more sentence | 23:24 |
| valorie | I think I got all the typos out, but please check? | 23:25 |
| acheronuk | seems slightly odd to name/thank clive as running the election, then refer to him as 'the kubuntu member'? | 23:27 |
| acheronuk | with the new sentence there that is. | 23:28 |
| valorie | oops | 23:28 |
| valorie | thanks | 23:28 |
| valorie | better? | 23:31 |
| clivejo | I have such a banging headache tonight | 23:32 |
| valorie | oh gosh, why am I asking you, it's like 2am where you are, isn't ? | 23:32 |
| valorie | for both of you | 23:32 |
| valorie | clivejo: {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} | 23:32 |
| clivejo | 12:32am | 23:32 |
| valorie | ok, not terrible | 23:32 |
| clivejo | just a nasty day | 23:32 |
| valorie | :( | 23:32 |
| acheronuk | We thank Simon for running and making this a race, Clay and Ovidiu-Florin for their service on the Council, and Kubuntu Member Clive Johnston for stepping up and running this election. | 23:33 |
| acheronuk | See the official announcement from Clive on our mailing lists | 23:34 |
| clivejo | you don't have to put my name in there | 23:34 |
| acheronuk | we do | 23:34 |
| valorie | did you change it, acheronuk? | 23:34 |
| valorie | I think your way is better | 23:34 |
| acheronuk | no, that was a suggestion | 23:34 |
| valorie | OK, I'll fix | 23:34 |
| acheronuk | did not want to fight for edit rights | 23:34 |
| clivejo | go on, fight! | 23:35 |
| acheronuk | all good then. or as much as my sleepy eyes can tell | 23:36 |
| clivejo | I'll put money on valorie | 23:36 |
| acheronuk | so would I! | 23:36 |
| valorie | lol | 23:36 |
| valorie | better than that recent billion-dollar fight or whatever | 23:37 |
| valorie | ok, will publish | 23:37 |
| acheronuk | :) | 23:37 |
| valorie | https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-council-election-results-announced/ -- weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! | 23:37 |
| valorie | thank you all | 23:37 |
| valorie | someone please tweet it | 23:38 |
| valorie | officially | 23:38 |
| acheronuk | clive is missing his 't' in johnston? | 23:39 |
| acheronuk | or is that right? | 23:39 |
| valorie | damn it, I copy/pasted from his email | 23:39 |
| valorie | grrrr | 23:39 |
| acheronuk | LOL | 23:39 |
| valorie | the *first* time | 23:40 |
| valorie | sheesh | 23:40 |
| valorie | editing is a bear | 23:40 |
| acheronuk | it is | 23:40 |
| valorie | fixx0red | 23:40 |
| valorie | gotta get out and water before it gets any later | 23:41 |
| acheronuk | ok. thanks. I better get some sleep | 23:42 |
| acheronuk | night all | 23:42 |
| valorie | thank you again, acheronuk | 23:43 |
| valorie | sleep well | 23:43 |
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