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 http://vineetkumar.me/2013/10/installing-ubuntu-touch-on-your-rooted-nexus-7/
 Found this for grouper owners...
 There might be something useful in here
[06:14] <tgBot> FlorianMueckl was added by: FlorianMueckl
 IIRC there were alot of issues with mir using the tegra3 drivers on grouper. Was probably one of the main reasons canonical dropped it as a reference device and went with the 2013 nexus 7's at the beginning of 2014
 I remember that day clearly as my grouper had arrived a few days before canonical dropped it. 🙈
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-aims-to-bring-its-ubuntu-snappy-technologies-to-android-devices-517677.shtml
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> good news
 @DanChapman, Good to know, maybe I should stop trying to port HTC One X with tegra3 cipset 😆
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 @lotuspsychje, how does this help or hinder Ubports? would this mean changing android components could happen live from UT?
 I think the author just misinterpreted something...
 as is common with that author
 @Flohack, Not saying it's not possible 😊. THis was back in the early days of mir (0.1.x). But even back then I think they was having to find workarounds for tegra3 as it flickered like hell. I think even surfaceflinger had workarounds for that chipset. so...
 @neothethird, can you explain (without writing a book :P )?
 did someone know if I can install yunit on ubuntu gnome 17.04?
 @ProsOne, Probably a question for the yunit forum or mailing list
 unless @jsalatas is around?
 @ProsOne, I believe it's possible. You can certainly do it in 16.04, but I think it may also work in 17.04.
 now I see how to do it..thank you very much
 @ProsOne, I don't think the ppa has that distro. Would unity8-desktop-session meet your needs? It is almost the same code.
 @alan_griffiths, the terminal found unity8-sess... but, being on gnome, needs to many many additional packages..maybe I'll try it on ubuntu 16.04...thank you friend
 @UniversalSuperBox IRC still works in Halium chat, you were concerned about it
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[13:16] <tgBot> Kazord was added by: Kazord
 Hi
 Hello!
[13:23] <Mappack> Hi
 I want to know if there is change on scope (and how they are handle in ubports), and if any, if i can test on my MX4 while porting rssreader from ubuntu store to openstore
 no changes have been made to scopes so far
 Cool for porting (sad as they need some)
 Scopes probably won't be touched in the 15.04 / "legacy" software track.
 Don't expect them to be the same when 16.04 comes out.
 Ah, is there a thread somewhere on what change are expected for 16.04 ? … And also how packages will be handle between those 2 branches ?
 Not yet so far, that i'm aware about.
[14:50] <nfsprodriver[m]> Oh man, the new oxide 1.21 from @mariogrip gives such an extremely speedup!!!
 Hi
 Aloha
[14:54] <nfsprodriver[m]> Hello!
 Buen vide
 @nfsprodriver[m], Yeah, definitely!
 I noticed a problem with the Meizu pro5 and the RC version of Ubports …   I tried several ways to run this version, but it does not work
 @UniversalSuperBox, what is the profile of the person who uses IRC?  I mean... why is IRC used?  Is there a link that will help me understand in a few words why this is being used and why I should bother?
 @wayneoutthere, IRC is used by people who have been using IRC for a very long time
 (Photo, 1280x540) https://irc.ubports.com/225j4hwE/file_482.jpg
 Including many hardcore developers in the open source community
 @Sconio, If you don't want to deal with the terminal, try this: github.com/ubports/ubports-installer
 @Sconio, If you do want to deal with it on the terminal and want some fun troubleshooting experience, could you try removing `--bootstrap`?
 Could also be said to be very low tech indeed so accessible to all. Though less so now that smartphones are standard everywhere
 @UniversalSuperBox, so are they using it because of incredible advantages or 'just because they always have'?
 I also use ubports install and I have the same result
 just rc
 devel it's ok stable its ok
 @wayneoutthere, We're going to start a holy war if we aren't careful... … But in general I don't see any advantage when it comes to public chatrooms... except maybe that IRC doesn't require a phone number
 ok, no problem. conversation over. i get it
 3 people are typing... we started the war.
 75000 in Turkey arrested mainly because they used an encrypted app
 i tried it once and i was like 'WTH is this and why wuld I ever use this when things like Telegram are secure and working"
 @wayneoutthere, For *you* there's no advantage. But if you know regular expressions, it can be handy
 i see.
 so it's useful for coders for their job?
 i might just have to #audiocast this haha
 @Sconio, Ok, thanks for reporting. If devel is in fact ok, I guess whatever issue there was is resolved. I'll ping you once the new rc is here, then you can check again
 @wayneoutthere, If they have it set up the way they like, it is. But for many there's no immediate benefit
 ok, cool thanks
[15:22] <tgBot> libremax was added by: libremax
 welcome :)
 Hey, I know some of the ubuntu documentation jhas been copied elsewhere. Has this?  … https://developer.ubuntu.com/web/ubuntu-webapps-guide
 Oh, a quick google turned this up: https://docs.ubuntu.com/phone/en/web/ubuntu-webapps-guide … please ignore previous message
 If anyone is interested in a refurbished Fairphone 2, try this: http://fairphone.us5.list-manage.com/track/click?u=95cc5eadcf0cd460ae347f6f8&id=aab5f199ba&e=655a8096d1
 @padraic7a, Most things are automatically archived at archive.org
 @JBBgameich, Cheers
 Sirs. I have recently moved from Ubuntu Touch to Ports and everything was succesfully (congratulations and thanks to all that make it possible)
 However, trying to copy some sound to the media folder inside /system, I was warned that system is read only
 with UbTouch I could mount the system rootfile as rw but I m unable with Ports!
 Is it normal?
 how can I custom notification sounds?
 thank you :) remounting rw should still work. what's your device?
 @Marcos, it's currently only possible to add custom ringtones, not custom notification sounds. There's a bugreport for that here: https://github.com/ubports/ubports-touch/issues/202
 Trying to flash MX4 with MDT, device in fastboot mode, MDT stuck on Detecting Devices
 Any clue?
 Is it running android? then you need to enable usb debugging and bootloader unlocking in the settings. If that's already done or you're running ubuntu touch already,you could try it with a different cable or a different usb slot on your pc.
 Was ubuntu official
 There is a group for MDT. Try a different cable and different PC. Depressing either or both volume keys and/or tapping volume key very briefly can held device recognition
 If using MDT device must be OFF not fastboot
 @wayneoutthere, There is another thing, IRC is completly anonymous, you can use it also from TOR network probably, so you can do fancy stuff with it ;)
 Sorry. Ignore that last
 Fastboot is correct for MDT
 @neothethird, I m using E5
 @Marcos, If you want, you can use ut tweak tool to make the system writable: https://openstore.ubports.com/app/ut-tweak-tool.sverzegnassi
 I tried tweak tools but not sucess!
 also mount / -o remount,rw did not work!
 @Marcos, that needs sudo
 Keypress did the job,  checked with lsusb before MDT
[16:40] <tgBot> Hmminfo was added by: Hmminfo
 @Flohack, IRC is the opposite of anonimity. If you aren't cloaked your can be viewed by everyone by /whoising him. the only thing is as you said to use tor
 Welcome @Hmminfo !
 Hey everyone. New here
 hi
 @UniversalSuperBox, Thanks
 Hey
 Hey, you made it!
 Welcome
 @UniversalSuperBox, Finally
 Thanks. Hope to learn new things from you all
 By the way you can all check my bio i have great books in my channel
 Damn MDT, everything got 'failed (protocol error)'
 @Flohack, This is actually pretty accurate: If you can do fancy stuff with it, you can do fancy stuff with it. If not, it's completely useless
 @hawk_is_here, How's that kernel going?
 @neothethird, 🤣🤣
 @Kazord, Jan. I did use sudo and as root too but same result
 Sorry I replied the wrong message!
 I will try to remount later again!
 @Hmminfo, Going snail speed... trying to carve dedicated time...
 @hawk_is_here, Keep up good work 👍
[17:14] <tgBot> <Vijay Kumar> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/E3Fksz7e/file_484.jpg
 I've a question
 Can we install Ubuntu in deviant?
 *Debian
 @hawk_is_here, You can install ubuntu touch using most operating systems: github.com/ubports/ubports-installer
 Thanks, ui found that my password missed
 @Marcos, that's a high five!
 @Flohack, fair enough.  but i'm guessin that matrix and wire and such are basically invisible and anonymous as well (if you set it up that way).  thanks for sharing
 @DeadSquirreI01, then i retract. haha
 @neothethird, I meant Ubuntu SDK
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[21:04] <tgBot> valx7 was added by: valx7
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 Hello to the both o'yah
 Hi everyone!
 Is LG K4 LTE model in plans to be supported?
 @valx7, No.
 Every phone has different hardware that takes months to investigate.
 Only a few phones can be supported
 Even Lineage has not all phones...
 Even android
 Wouldn't it be possible to use some of drivers from lineage to speed investigations?
 Sure. That's exactly what we do. Still takes a month or two to get a device to a slightly usable stage.
 Very few developers and they are volunteers. They have to prioritise
 For example, right now I'm banging my head against the wall on a device. For documentation.
 Fwd from UniversalSuperBox: # ping 8.8.8.8 … socket: Permission denied
 I... just... HOW.
[21:50] <knightDX> is anyone available that could help with info on porting this to a huawei device?
 If I had more time and experience I'd be working on porting it to my old Galaxy Nexuses
[21:56] <knightDX> i'm honestly just wanting to learn how to port a rom in general. i like linux, what i am confused about is, is porting a aosp rom to a non google phone
[21:56] <knightDX> like do i just add the vendor blobs and device tree to the nexus aosp files or what? lol
 Nooooooo.... There's thousands of lines of code you'll have alter, not to mention probably write your own bootloader and figure out a way to bypass security on the device you're porting too...
 Ave that's just too get to the point where you can see logcat when the bootup inveriably fails, assuming you get enough right to init the adb bridge and have proper USB from go
 Luckily Halium solves that part by giving you ssh access in the test rootfs... THE BUILD FAILED AGAIN.
[22:01] <knightDX> i just cant find any info for it. i had wanted to port lineage is to it, but again no info. ive got adb and fastboot done. i did try a build using a build for cm 14.1 but it failed halfway through
 What would be great is a link taking people to a video guide to how difficult the tasks are, when they ask about a phone model. I had no idea at first how complicated it is. People think 'USB boot'. Not unreasonably. But wrongly
 I'll just link them to the Halium docs when they are nice.
 I've been working on this device since 12:00PM today and it's 5:00PM. I had a build that booted when I started. Now the Wi-Fi radio works. But not the networking stack. That'd be too easy.
 Will newbies like me understand them? Probably as much as hieroglyphs
 I should do that
 Just screencap the terminal windows and weird errors and myself shouting expletives.
 Post that when people ask "Can you port to [x]?'
 Exactly. They would get some insight then. Brain surgery from scratch. Kudos 👍
 Also, I don't know if people understand the computer required to do this in an amount of time that isn't frustrating. I built rig around the Ryzen 7 1700 for the purpose. It takes 15 minutes to compile the hardware stuff. My old FX-6300 took about 30 minutes to compile it.
 Scratch that. 40.
 100 iterations?  300?
 let me check my notes
 I'm probably at about 20 right now
 I mean to 'complete'
 Right
 Okay, got it installed again. Let's see if I can ping stuff
 Donations needed for a Doctor Who screwdriver
 holds breath and waits for ssh to connect
 Oh, yes! Wi-Fi came up.
 nice
 Didn't break anything. Now, can I ping...?
 YES!
 oh my goooooooood
 at one of us is having a good dev day
 never before has `apt update` felt so good
 lol
 nice
 congrats man!
 🍓🍓🍓
 now send some of that luck my way!!
 Now, the reason for doing that was so I could use apt to install different binaries so I could test the graphics.
 Let's try that, shall we?
 @UniversalSuperBox, Woo, ryzen bros
 @UniversalSuperBox, whoa, that's gonna be cool!
 @Stereofont, you can always feel good knowing that no matter how little you understand - Wayne Out There understands LESS!
 ```# EGL_PLATFORM=hwcomposer test_hwcomposer … library "libtinyxml.so" not found … width: 1080 height: 1920 … OpenGL ES 2.0 (OpenGL ES 3.2 V@145.0 (GIT@I15255e4b4a)) … Segmentation fault```
 it... it never ends
 @UniversalSuperBox, we should turn this into a dramatic section of the next #audiocast hey @exar_kun - loggit!
 (Photo, 560x586) https://irc.ubports.com/8V7rFjC1/file_486.jpg
 I assume that phone designers 'borrow' a lot rather than do everything from scratch? The lazier they are the better …
 Maybe, but every board is different
 Hey, I was listening to a podcast about that today. apparently, that's going to change going forward...
 Enigma
 Yeah, Treble might make things better. I don't have much hope.
 @UniversalSuperBox, Yeah, that's it.
 Maybe I've been abused by too many Android devices.
 lol
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/OBjwxpBV/file_487.mp4
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/25517440/
 I'm beginning to sense a theme here
 Oh, yeah. Graphics tests always segfault when you start trying.
 always
 and it's impossible to track down the error unless you really know Android AND libhybris source code. Which I do not.
 I don't know ANY code and here I am trying to do stuff and things
 I last coded in 1980
 2 kilobytes of RAM
 yeah I learned to "code" with an Apple ][ back in the 80's. I was successful in creating a clown face
 Tennis was possible
 If you remember what I'm talking about, you're old
 Very
 lol
 Well, Plasma Mobile just released a rootfs that supports devices like mine. Let's see if that does anything but crash.
 has doubts
 (Video, 4s)https://irc.ubports.com/zl1q9dEW/file_488.mp4 Testing with gifs as Dashbackground.
 Hm, the record seems to be broken, but it works :)
 @UniversalSuperBox, what device?
 N5
 ok, thanks
 A simpler gift would yield more information?
 Gif *
 The problem is lightdm needs to be restarted to see the gif animated.
 What I was thinking is that a monochrome square moving would produce an intelligible breakup
 @enriconia, The rootfs gets combined with the hardware adaptation stuff to make a running system.
 So the rootfs is for all devices
 If you have hardware adaptation that supports it
 ok, thanks :)
 @enriconia, Oh, I thought you meant me, but the answer is the same I think 😂
 it's ok :)
 Actually, I tried porting ubports, but I failed and I don't know why. The strange thing is that I managed to boot sailfish OS... so now I am waiting for some halium development
 Oh great.
 Wi-Fi stopped working
 @wayneoutthere, Can't wait until I can  apt update #audiocast