[04:44] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:46] <Bashing-om> \o lotuspsychje . All quiet on the Western front . Have another cuppa .
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> hey mate
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> morning mr-jules
[04:59] <mr-jules> morning lotuspsychje
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> where you from mr-jules ?
[05:01] <mr-jules> from tampa and you ?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> belgium, europe
[05:03] <Bashing-om> mr-jules: You in Tampa now - hurricane power outages ??
[05:05] <mr-jules> i'm in chicago now
[05:05] <mr-jules> miami doesn't exist anymore
[05:06] <mr-jules> i won't come back
[05:07] <Bashing-om> Ouch, but from the news reports, Miami was not hit as hard as was expected ( storm surge flooding and such ).
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> i feel with you guys...
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> its crazy whats happening
[05:17] <mr-jules> wtf happen with the world.
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> oO
[05:40] <Bashing-om> good nite all ,. keep safe.
[05:54] <ducasse> good morning
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[06:09] <ducasse> morning lotus
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> how are you today ducasse
[06:10] <ducasse> still sleepy :) you?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> had a few coffees, at 11 work at new work at my day off
[06:12] <ducasse> aha, right. election day here, i'm planning to go and vote early, avoid queue.
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> ah, good luck and pick the best person ducasse
[06:14] <ducasse> still debating whether to vote with my head or my heart, voting for the party i really want to vote for is probably a bad tactical move :)
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> :p
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> we didnt vote last time..
[06:16] <ducasse> or i could just give them a big 'f u' and vote pirate party ;)
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> i know thats also a bad move, cause votes will go to biggest party
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> that might be the most tacticle way, to vote with many on a small pirate party
[06:17] <ducasse> they don't stand a chance in hell of getting in.
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/09/linux-phone-crowdfunder-hits-200k-ahead-trend-line-succeed
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> wow..
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-aims-to-bring-its-ubuntu-snappy-technologies-to-android-devices-517677.shtml
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> thats some news
[06:26] <ducasse> maybe. you think the linux phone has a chance? not sure i do...
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> the urge is big on users
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> but will the company stand against all others?
[06:28] <ducasse> it's a difficult market to have any impact at all in, imo
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[06:29] <ducasse> i mean, i'd love one, i just don't think it's very likely to succeed unless they offer something special
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> i believe something will happen someday
[06:31] <ducasse> we need optimists :)
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> its a matter of time someone will bring out something that will be installable on all phones
[06:34] <ducasse> drivers etc are a huge problem there
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> yeah its not easy portin for sure
[06:35] <ducasse> i'm considering just saving up money and getting a blackphone
[06:35] <ducasse> might be the best choice
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> lemme check that
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> looks cool
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> https://itsfoss.com/open-source-alternatives-android/
[06:45] <ducasse> yes, well - we'll see. sorry, i'm just not very optimistic about this :)
[06:54] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: oof, it's absolutely pouring down outside :(
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> oh
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> here, lil bit rainy
[06:57] <ducasse> really windy and wet here. i'll wait for it to pass a bit before i go out.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: going on vote with a yellow raincoat isnt the best indeed :p
[07:01] <ducasse> i've got a black umbrella, that will work better :)
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> vote in style
[07:05] <ducasse> always :)
[08:23] <ducasse> oerheks: i feel like saying "sorry, but helping you is too much trouble for me" :)
[08:27] <oerheks> this nasty bug happens with a large number of files in a folder, so not everyone is affected :-(
[08:30] <ducasse> still, if he can't be bothered to file a bug that's really lazy
[08:31] <oerheks> true, but i am not sure the patch is not applied
[08:32] <ducasse> he would find out if he filed a bug
[08:33] <ducasse> plus it could actually help other users
[12:25] <oerheks> hmmmm https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/09/11/copyright-vote-change-europes-internet/
[12:26] <oerheks> what will this give: websites go down because nobody visits them anymore due to popups/hooverover-crap and annoying dialogbuttons?
[12:26] <oerheks> :-D
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:33] <ducasse> oerheks: jesus, that is scary. copyright can diaf as far as i care...
[12:33] <ducasse> wb BluesKaj - all good today?
[12:33] <oerheks> ducasse, jups, the end of popup blockers and ad blockers
[12:33] <oerheks> but this will be a boomerang :-D
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hi ducasse, oerheks , yes, fine here and you guys ?
[12:34] <oerheks> hi BluesKaj, just discussing this > https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/09/11/copyright-vote-change-europes-internet/
[12:34] <ducasse> oerheks: hopefully they just mean dns filtering ;)
[12:35] <oerheks> maybe websites will present a fake page, with fake news..
[12:39] <BluesKaj> heh, some acquaintnaces only us e their pcs for facebook , practically nothing else, and fake news there is predominanat noand this where they get their news. It's scary because they spread this crap ...maybe a lilttle filtering wouldn't be so bad
[12:40] <BluesKaj> I can't believe how naive some ppla are about the internet
[12:41] <oerheks> :-)
[12:41] <ducasse> wonder how this will affect us, we're not a member state but members of the eec
[12:43] <BluesKaj> I'm seriously thinking of dropping facebook altogether due to the bullsh*t and click bait stories
[12:43] <oerheks> TIPP or WIPP or whatever USA is pushing through our throat...
[12:45] <oerheks> or build a new internet :-D
[12:46] <ducasse> oerheks: aren't those dead now?
[12:46] <ducasse> BluesKaj: i've got a facebook account of sorts, but i never use it. haven't logged in in months.
[12:48] <oerheks> oh, they call it TTIP now.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership
[12:49] <ducasse> hasn't that been the name all along?
[12:49] <ducasse> we're having an election today, might be a perfect opportunity to vote for "screw the us" party...
[12:51] <BluesKaj> no need, they already screwed themselves
[12:51] <oerheks> it is really getting ugly here, fixed contracts are blocking innovations, they say...
[12:52] <oerheks> but i am oke, i have a house and a dog an €1000/month, too little to live from, but too much to die :-D
[12:53] <ducasse> :)
[12:58]  * ducasse wonders when ghostnik11 will realize that thing will never work 100% with linux...
[13:00] <oerheks> ducasse, i told him i gave up, i have such 1000ta too
[13:00] <oerheks> baytrail horror, 32 bit uefi ..
[13:00] <daftykins> :)
[13:00] <daftykins> ooh nasty
[13:01] <ducasse> i think he's too young to be realistic, he seems like a kid at times
[13:01] <oerheks> well, there are enough pages with outdated tips
[13:02] <oerheks> .. you need kernel 4.4 ... you need kernel 4.7 ... you need kernel 4.9... you need kernel 4.11
[13:02] <oerheks> ( but don't run updates)
[13:02] <ducasse> hi daftykins
[13:03] <daftykins> good afternoon
[13:03] <BluesKaj> hey daftykins
[13:09] <BluesKaj> was hoping for some insight into the pipewire media suite fedora is working on in fedora 27 devel OS, but there's not much documentation, so I'm dumpng it off my spare hdd in favour of something more interesting, whatever that might be.
[13:12] <ducasse> gentoo? ;)
[13:13] <daftykins> tune in this time next week to see if we've lost BluesKaj to Arch :O
[13:13] <ducasse> hey!
[13:14]  * ducasse uses arch on his desktop :-P
[13:14] <BluesKaj> ducasse, no. I'm, not that ambitious, and I'm not a masocist either  :-)
[13:14] <daftykins> :O
[13:15] <BluesKaj> daftykins, already tried arch, it was anticlimactic after all the work
[13:15] <ducasse> i didn't think so either, BluesKaj :) gentoo is too much hassle even for me, and i have a pretty high tolerance :)
[13:15] <daftykins> BluesKaj: sounds about right :>
[13:16] <BluesKaj> arch is ok, but it didn't live up to all the hype at the time
[13:17] <BluesKaj> that's about 3or 4 yrs agao
[13:17] <ducasse> worst thing about arch is the hype
[13:18] <daftykins> you mean it's not here to ressurect Jesus, bring about world peace and do all my work for me? :(
[13:18] <ducasse> no, just the first two.
[13:18] <daftykins> ah
[13:18] <BluesKaj> qhehe
[13:20] <BluesKaj> i found their support chat full of juveys fooling around like little kids on a schoolyard
[13:21] <ducasse> you could try out one of the opensolaris-based thingamajigs? openindiana is nice.
[13:26] <BluesKaj> solaris is a bit too off the beaten path for me
[13:28] <ducasse> it's nice, though
[14:55] <nicomachus> someone tagged me here but idk when
[14:57] <oerheks> hmmm not today ? https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/09/11/%23ubuntu-discuss.html
[15:01] <nicomachus> could have been any time since riday but I'm too lazy to check through the logs.
[15:01] <nicomachus> Friday*
[15:03] <nicomachus> oh I see. it was daftykins talking about Oreo.
[15:03] <nicomachus> daftykins: I haven't seen that and my mobile data usage isn't any higher than normal. .96gb so far this month.
[15:04] <nicomachus> isn't there a "last" command or something?
[15:05] <ducasse> weechat has a 'highlights' plugin that keeps track of them
[15:08] <daftykins> nicomachus: ah maybe it's on the Pixels then, dunno!
[15:11] <nicomachus> daftykins: I'm on Project Fi, though, too, so Google does a pretty damn good job of monitoring the data usage.
[15:11] <nicomachus> err... darn*
[15:11] <daftykins> :)
[15:18] <ducasse> the fiber people are now digging _really_ close to me, considering if i can bribe them to dig up the road to me at night and hook me up
[15:20] <nacc> ducasse: +1 :)
[15:33] <nicomachus> ducasse: worth a shot!
[15:40] <oerheks> girlielt is a troll, did not want to read info we gave him, too lazy
[15:40] <nacc> oerheks: +1, ignoring
[16:17] <nacc> fwiw, i believe to see 'running' units, you can do `systemctl --state=runnin`
[16:17] <nacc> *running
[16:20] <oerheks> list running units = systemctl list-units , failed = systemctl –failed, available = systemctl list-unit-files
[16:21] <nacc> oerheks: tbc, list-units does not list running units
[16:22] <nacc> oerheks: iiuc, it lists loaded units
[16:22] <nacc> on my system, it explicitly shows exited units, etc.
[16:23] <oerheks> oh :-(
[19:06] <immu> ducasse, lordievader
[19:07] <immu> hi
[19:10] <lordievader> Evening ;)
[19:12] <immu> night here
[19:12] <immu> whats up
[19:19] <immu> Bashing-om, hi
[19:20] <Bashing-om> immu: Good day in our neighborhood ?
[19:32] <immu> yesh Bashing-om
[19:32] <immu> yours Bashing-om
[19:35] <Bashing-om> immu: Getting settled in, see what I can do this day :)
[19:37] <immu> what are your plans by the way? Bashing-om
[19:41] <Bashing-om> I am still massaging data bases as I get -a-round-2-it . In between support on 4 fronts .
[19:46] <immu> ok good nite
[19:46] <immu> i am off to sleep
[19:46] <immu> yeah
[20:17] <ducasse> Bashing-om: aren't you using an older nvidia? which one was it?
[22:28] <Bashing-om> ducasse: No, on nvidia - went to a too new for 14.04 . GTX710 .