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| caicaivilu | hola a todos ! | 02:44 |
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| niko__ | привет всем, подскажите свеженакатаный минт, а как на нем открыть общий доступ к папке, | 10:03 |
| niko__ | ? | 10:03 |
| deskwizard | Howdy! I asked yesterday morning but in case someone new came along... Any of you seen something like that before? I get this pretty much everytime the machine wakes up from sleep. Fullscreen chrome/chromium, with the nvidia driver. Nouveau driver completely hangs chrome on wakeup. https://image.ibb.co/fOksjF/20170910_082124.jpg | 12:16 |
| deskwizard | I was having green flickers in VLC when it overlaid the UI so I disabled gpu composition, worked for VLC, I was hoping it'd fix both but no cigar | 12:16 |
| deskwizard | gpu is a 560ti | 12:16 |
| ouroumov | deskwizard, haven't seen that no | 12:18 |
| deskwizard | ouroumov: ah, dang. thanks | 12:21 |
| deskwizard | figured it was only me again hehehe that damn machine is haunted or something | 12:22 |
| ouroumov | deskwizard, are you using the base nvidia drivers or the ones in the ppa? | 12:23 |
| deskwizard | ouroumov: latest from the ppa. tried both the base versions, as well as the previous version in ppa but same thing | 12:25 |
| ouroumov | deskwizard, do you have intel graphics, and if so do you get hit while using that? | 12:27 |
| deskwizard | ouroumov: nah, no graphics on that cpu | 12:28 |
| ouroumov | deskwizard, what version of Ubuntu MATE is it? | 12:29 |
| deskwizard | ouroumov: 16.04 | 12:29 |
| deskwizard | sorry I should have mentionned that | 12:29 |
| ouroumov | Do you have the hardware enablement stack? (hwe kernel?) | 12:30 |
| deskwizard | ouroumov: :| got me there, i don't know | 12:31 |
| ouroumov | See if this installs anything: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 | 12:31 |
| deskwizard | ouroumov: latest version installed, I guess I do | 12:35 |
| ouroumov | Alright, so I'm out of ideas. Next step is to report a bug, but I'm not sure against what. | 12:35 |
| deskwizard | ouroumov: Thanks for the help, much appreciated | 12:36 |
| ouroumov | np | 12:36 |
| Tu13es | I have a raspberry pi running ubuntu mate 16.10. I noticed recently I don't see any more updates in apt-get. is it EOL? if so, is there some change i can make in sources.list to ensure it still receives updates? | 13:24 |
| ouroumov | Tu13es, yes Ubuntu 16.10 is EOL. But you shouldn't have been running it anyway on a RPi, the only version we provide is 16.04 | 15:17 |
| Tu13es | yeah, i'm not even sure how i got it | 15:17 |
| Tu13es | i realize i should probably just reimage the sd card, but i figured i should check if there was an easy fix first | 15:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I imagine you have used dist-upgrade or the like at some point? | 17:51 |
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| DarkJarris | Hey guys | 19:24 |
| DarkJarris | question: what was the command to see why boot takes so long? i seem to recall "systemd --blame" | 19:25 |
| diogenes_ | DarkJarris, analyze blame | 19:38 |
| diogenes_ | systemd-analyze blame | 19:38 |
| DarkJarris | aha | 19:38 |
| DarkJarris | i was close :P | 19:38 |
| DarkJarris | 1min 247ms docker.service | 19:39 |
| DarkJarris | that.. explains a few things | 19:39 |
| diogenes_ | yeah | 19:40 |
| DarkJarris | i suppose the times im seeing all add up to total boot time | 19:41 |
| DarkJarris | cause it takes about 3 minutes before im actually able to use the computer :/ | 19:41 |
| diogenes_ | that's too much, within that time you could even forget why you did actually turn your pc for | 19:42 |
| DarkJarris | is there some fancy command to find why a service takes so long to start? | 19:43 |
| DarkJarris | like systemd-analyze blame docker.service, or somesuch? | 19:43 |
| DarkJarris | or do i just run through logs and kinda hope they tell me? | 19:43 |
| diogenes_ | DarkJarris, this might help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Improving_performance/Boot_process | 19:46 |
| DarkJarris | the plot function is useful | 19:57 |
| DarkJarris | give me an idea why it takes so long to even start a service | 19:57 |
| DarkJarris | gives* | 19:58 |
| diogenes_ | lenovo? | 20:00 |
| DarkJarris | no, custom build | 20:00 |
| diogenes_ | amd? | 20:00 |
| DarkJarris | yeah | 20:01 |
| DarkJarris | AMD a6-6300K | 20:01 |
| diogenes_ | that might be it is it ide or ahci? | 20:01 |
| DarkJarris | off the top of my head I want to say ahci | 20:02 |
| diogenes_ | are u sure? | 20:02 |
| DarkJarris | is there a way to check from within linux or should I head into bios and check? | 20:03 |
| diogenes_ | dmesg | grep ahci | 20:06 |
| DarkJarris | no output, so i presume ide | 20:06 |
| diogenes_ | dmesg | grep ide | 20:08 |
| DarkJarris | also no output | 20:08 |
| DarkJarris | lol. the tale of the computer that runs on magic blue smoke. | 20:08 |
| diogenes_ | go to bios and check, if it's ide then it will be slow as a lame snail | 20:09 |
| DarkJarris | alright. wish me luck :P | 20:09 |
| diogenes_ | :) | 20:10 |
| DarkJarris | it was indeed on IDE | 20:17 |
| Tu13es | sixwheeledbeast: yeah, maybe that was it | 20:17 |
| DarkJarris | ive changed to ahci, and its made no difference in speed unfortunately | 20:17 |
| diogenes_ | changing to ahci results in no bootable media | 20:18 |
| DarkJarris | huh | 20:18 |
| diogenes_ | it requires reinstallation so the ahci driver is loaded | 20:18 |
| DarkJarris | well... I booted. | 20:18 |
| DarkJarris | odd. | 20:18 |
| DarkJarris | perhaps it switched back then | 20:18 |
| DarkJarris | well if it did, that explains why theres no change then :P | 20:19 |
| diogenes_ | yeah, one more thing | 20:19 |
| diogenes_ | you could run: inxi -Fxrc0 | 20:19 |
| diogenes_ | copy outpiuut to some pastebin | 20:20 |
| diogenes_ | and share the link here | 20:20 |
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| DarkJarris | https://pastebin.com/1gmHF4tD | 20:22 |
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| DarkJarris | netsplit o'clock | 20:24 |
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| diogenes_ | well my guess is ide slowing down the boot process since dmesg | grep ahci gives nothing but, any advice here is GPLv2 which means it comes with no warranty, you can try and get the same result ot get the improvement. | 20:29 |
| DarkJarris | I understand that | 20:30 |
| DarkJarris | if i upload the result from system-anaylze plot would that provide some insight too? | 20:32 |
| diogenes_ | it only shows the processes time but no insights why | 20:33 |
| DarkJarris | fair enough | 20:33 |
| diogenes_ | the reasons is mostly the hardware | 20:35 |
| DarkJarris | i was hoping it wasnt, cause i know its old and I hoped it was just that i'd pressed a button or something easily solved :P | 20:37 |
| DarkJarris | the computer must be 6 years old, and it wasnt exactly amazing when it was new either | 20:38 |
| diogenes_ | hehe you watch too much anime :) no magic wands | 20:39 |
| DarkJarris | i'd be happy to reinstall (this time with ahci) but i remember getting steam to actually work was such a bitch the way valve ship their own broken libraries | 20:40 |
| DarkJarris | might be a project for later this week | 20:41 |
| diogenes_ | yeah, our entire life if nothing but a small rest among huge decisions | 20:42 |
| DarkJarris | so, heres a question that might not have a good answer: if i reinstall should I just throw on ubuntu MATE, or install ubuntu server, then install x.org, mate-desktop, and the programs I want? | 20:44 |
| DarkJarris | I feel like the server method is more "bloat free" | 20:44 |
| DarkJarris | buti also feel that getting steam and a full desktop to work would be a bit more of a pain in the ass | 20:44 |
| DarkJarris | my hunch says that things like graphics drivers will be a bit more of a pain because servers dont usually have them | 20:46 |
| diogenes_ | that question is more of a taste and choice, whenever you have free time and try desperately to find what to fill up your time with, then you can try that | 20:46 |
| DarkJarris | true, its mostly a subjective question | 20:46 |
| DarkJarris | though free time is something I never seem to have much of | 20:47 |
| DarkJarris | though to be fair, i put the regular mate disc in my laptop and it didnt have a lot of rubbish on there by default | 20:48 |
| DarkJarris | so maybe im making up a problem that doesnt really exist to any real degree | 20:48 |
| DarkJarris | yeah, i'll just throw the disc in and do it that way | 20:49 |
| DarkJarris | in fact, i'm pretty sure i have another hard drive i can use. i might just swap them out and do it now | 20:50 |
| DarkJarris | i can always connect it to copy data off when i need it | 20:50 |
| diogenes_ | good luck | 20:50 |
| DarkJarris | plus if it goes wrong i can jsut reinstall the drive | 20:51 |
| DarkJarris | the ultimate backup | 20:51 |
| DarkJarris | :P | 20:51 |
| DarkJarris | so i forgot to account for the time to write the iso to usb | 21:00 |
| DarkJarris | 15 MB/s, gunna be a few minutes | 21:00 |
| DarkJarris | i usually have a few dvds handy, but i seem to missing a MATE one | 21:01 |
| DarkJarris | though its nice to know that ive still got my ubuntu 8.10 disc >.> | 21:01 |
| DarkJarris | Startup finished in 5.551s (kernel) + 20.858s (userspace) = 26.409s | 22:03 |
| DarkJarris | my god, so much better | 22:03 |
| gvghjlkc | Is there a better way than command lsusb for someone who wants to know whether his old laptop has 1.1 or 2.0 usb ports? | 23:17 |
| === gvghjlkc is now known as _Anna_ | ||
| DarkJarris | obvious question: does the tech specs of the laptop online not say? | 23:19 |
| _Anna_ | He said he has lost the manual...oh you said the online one! Wait a sec | 23:19 |
| DarkJarris | :P | 23:20 |
| _Anna_ | I can't find it online. Toshiba Tecra A10-11M is quite old :-( | 23:27 |
| DarkJarris | oh man, toshiba | 23:28 |
| DarkJarris | i have a deep and personal hatred of toshiba | 23:28 |
| _Anna_ | what? why? | 23:28 |
| DarkJarris | probably irrational, every peice of hardware theyve made that i've owned has died within a year | 23:29 |
| DarkJarris | i might jsut be unlucky | 23:29 |
| DarkJarris | im half convinced i have a toshiba killing aura around me | 23:29 |
| _Anna_ | This laptop is 7 years old and it's still working, so... | 23:30 |
| DarkJarris | hm, the tech specs dont mention usb at all | 23:33 |
| DarkJarris | http://www.toshiba.co.il/en/discontinued-products/tecra-a10-11m/ | 23:34 |
| DarkJarris | lsusb might be the best option really | 23:35 |
| DarkJarris | or "lspci" | 23:35 |
| DarkJarris | this could also help: https://serverfault.com/questions/96663/how-to-determine-usb-version-1-1-or-2-0 | 23:36 |
| _Anna_ | It has 3 ports. lsusb command show me both the numbers 1.1 and 2.0 and that's confusing. Is it the one or the other? I thought it was 2.0 but when I tried to change settings on a virtualbox machine from 1.1 to 2.0 it said "invalid settings detected"! | 23:36 |
| DarkJarris | i *beleive*, and note that im just hypothesising here, that its saying both for backwards compatibility | 23:38 |
| DarkJarris | i don't actually *know* though | 23:38 |
| _Anna_ | That means it's 2.0. Then why VirtualBox can't see it? | 23:39 |
| DarkJarris | have you installed the Oracle VM Extension Pack? | 23:40 |
| _Anna_ | I don't know. I have installed what was included in the downloaded package. | 23:41 |
| DarkJarris | ok, you probably havent then, its an extra part | 23:42 |
| DarkJarris | thats the way forward though | 23:42 |
| _Anna_ | vb version 5.0.40 | 23:43 |
| _Anna_ | from the software center | 23:43 |
| _Anna_ | Do I need to visit oracle's site then? | 23:43 |
| DarkJarris | I'm just installing VB myself to check | 23:44 |
| DarkJarris | I'm fairly sure its in a menu | 23:44 |
| DarkJarris | otherwise you can install it from oracles site | 23:44 |
| DarkJarris | *download | 23:45 |
| _Anna_ | I think I found it ---> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads | 23:46 |
| DarkJarris | so, you install that in the guest OS, and it will enable some stuff like seamless mode, auto resize screen, and usb 2.0 | 23:47 |
| DarkJarris | its coming back to me | 23:47 |
| DarkJarris | and probably a few other things that i havent used | 23:47 |
| _Anna_ | in the guest? | 23:48 |
| DarkJarris | yes | 23:48 |
| _Anna_ | oh... that's why it wasn't included in the original package! | 23:48 |
| DarkJarris | with the guest running, one of the options along the top will be to install the extras | 23:49 |
| DarkJarris | itll then ask you for the downloaded package on the host | 23:49 |
| DarkJarris | and away you go | 23:49 |
| _Anna_ | I haven't installed the guest yet, but the mystery is solved. Thank you. | 23:50 |
| DarkJarris | no problem | 23:50 |
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