[02:44] <caicaivilu> hola a todos !
[10:03] <niko__> привет всем, подскажите свеженакатаный минт, а как на нем открыть общий доступ к папке,
[10:03] <niko__> ?
[12:16] <deskwizard> Howdy! I asked yesterday morning but in case someone new came along... Any of you seen something like that before? I get this pretty much everytime the machine wakes up from sleep. Fullscreen chrome/chromium, with the nvidia driver. Nouveau driver completely hangs chrome on wakeup. https://image.ibb.co/fOksjF/20170910_082124.jpg
[12:16] <deskwizard> I was having green flickers in VLC when it overlaid the UI so I disabled gpu composition, worked for VLC, I was hoping it'd fix both but no cigar
[12:16] <deskwizard> gpu is a 560ti
[12:18] <ouroumov> deskwizard, haven't seen that no
[12:21] <deskwizard> ouroumov: ah, dang. thanks
[12:22] <deskwizard> figured it was only me again hehehe that damn machine is haunted or something
[12:23] <ouroumov> deskwizard, are you using the base nvidia drivers or the ones in the ppa?
[12:25] <deskwizard> ouroumov: latest from the ppa. tried both the base versions, as well as the previous version in ppa but same thing
[12:27] <ouroumov> deskwizard, do you have intel graphics, and if so do you get hit while using that?
[12:28] <deskwizard> ouroumov: nah, no graphics on that cpu
[12:29] <ouroumov> deskwizard, what version of Ubuntu MATE is it?
[12:29] <deskwizard> ouroumov:  16.04
[12:29] <deskwizard> sorry I should have mentionned that
[12:30] <ouroumov> Do you have the hardware enablement stack? (hwe kernel?)
[12:31] <deskwizard> ouroumov: :| got me there, i don't know
[12:31] <ouroumov> See if this installs anything: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04
[12:35] <deskwizard> ouroumov: latest version installed, I guess I do
[12:35] <ouroumov> Alright, so I'm out of ideas. Next step is to report a bug, but I'm not sure against what.
[12:36] <deskwizard> ouroumov: Thanks for the help, much appreciated
[12:36] <ouroumov> np
[13:24] <Tu13es> I have a raspberry pi running ubuntu mate 16.10.  I noticed recently I don't see any more updates in apt-get.  is it EOL?  if so, is there some change i can make in sources.list to ensure it still receives updates?
[15:17] <ouroumov> Tu13es, yes Ubuntu 16.10 is EOL. But you shouldn't have been running it anyway on a RPi, the only version we provide is 16.04
[15:17] <Tu13es> yeah, i'm not even sure how i got it
[15:17] <Tu13es> i realize i should probably just reimage the sd card, but i figured i should check if there was an easy fix first
[17:51] <sixwheeledbeast> I imagine you have used dist-upgrade or the like at some point?
[19:24] <DarkJarris> Hey guys
[19:25] <DarkJarris> question: what was the command to see why boot takes so long? i seem to recall "systemd --blame"
[19:38] <diogenes_> DarkJarris, analyze blame
[19:38] <diogenes_> systemd-analyze blame
[19:38] <DarkJarris> aha
[19:38] <DarkJarris> i was close :P
[19:39] <DarkJarris> 1min 247ms docker.service
[19:39] <DarkJarris> that.. explains a few things
[19:40] <diogenes_> yeah
[19:41] <DarkJarris> i suppose the times im seeing all add up to total boot time
[19:41] <DarkJarris> cause it takes about 3 minutes before im actually able to use the computer :/
[19:42] <diogenes_> that's too much, within that time you could even forget why you did actually turn your pc for
[19:43] <DarkJarris> is there some fancy command to find why a service takes so long to start?
[19:43] <DarkJarris> like systemd-analyze blame docker.service, or somesuch?
[19:43] <DarkJarris> or do i just run through logs and kinda hope they tell me?
[19:46] <diogenes_> DarkJarris, this might help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Improving_performance/Boot_process
[19:57] <DarkJarris> the plot function is useful
[19:57] <DarkJarris> give me an idea why it takes so long to even start a service
[19:58] <DarkJarris> gives*
[20:00] <diogenes_> lenovo?
[20:00] <DarkJarris> no, custom build
[20:00] <diogenes_> amd?
[20:01] <DarkJarris> yeah
[20:01] <DarkJarris> AMD a6-6300K
[20:01] <diogenes_> that might be it is it ide or ahci?
[20:02] <DarkJarris> off the top of my head I want to say ahci
[20:02] <diogenes_> are u sure?
[20:03] <DarkJarris> is there a way to check from within linux or should I head into bios and check?
[20:06] <diogenes_> dmesg | grep ahci
[20:06] <DarkJarris> no output, so i presume ide
[20:08] <diogenes_> dmesg | grep ide
[20:08] <DarkJarris> also no output
[20:08] <DarkJarris> lol. the tale of the computer that runs on magic blue smoke.
[20:09] <diogenes_> go to bios and check, if it's ide then it will be slow as a lame snail
[20:09] <DarkJarris> alright. wish me luck :P
[20:10] <diogenes_> :)
[20:17] <DarkJarris> it was indeed on IDE
[20:17] <Tu13es> sixwheeledbeast: yeah, maybe that was it
[20:17] <DarkJarris> ive changed to ahci, and its made no difference in speed unfortunately
[20:18] <diogenes_> changing to ahci results in no bootable media
[20:18] <DarkJarris> huh
[20:18] <diogenes_> it requires reinstallation so the ahci driver is loaded
[20:18] <DarkJarris> well... I booted.
[20:18] <DarkJarris> odd.
[20:18] <DarkJarris> perhaps it switched back then
[20:19] <DarkJarris> well if it did, that explains why theres no change then :P
[20:19] <diogenes_> yeah, one more thing
[20:19] <diogenes_> you could run: inxi -Fxrc0
[20:20] <diogenes_> copy outpiuut to some pastebin
[20:20] <diogenes_> and share the link here
[20:22] <DarkJarris> https://pastebin.com/1gmHF4tD
[20:24] <DarkJarris> netsplit o'clock
[20:29] <diogenes_> well my guess is ide slowing down the boot process since dmesg | grep ahci gives nothing but, any advice here is GPLv2 which means it comes with no warranty, you can try and get the same result ot get the improvement.
[20:30] <DarkJarris> I understand that
[20:32] <DarkJarris> if i upload the result from system-anaylze plot would that provide some insight too?
[20:33] <diogenes_> it only shows the processes time but no insights why
[20:33] <DarkJarris> fair enough
[20:35] <diogenes_> the reasons is mostly the hardware
[20:37] <DarkJarris> i was hoping it wasnt, cause i know its old and I hoped it was just that i'd pressed a button or something easily solved :P
[20:38] <DarkJarris> the computer must be 6 years old, and it wasnt exactly amazing when it was new either
[20:39] <diogenes_> hehe you watch too much anime :) no magic wands
[20:40] <DarkJarris> i'd be happy to reinstall (this time with ahci) but i remember getting steam to actually work was such a bitch the way valve ship their own broken libraries
[20:41] <DarkJarris> might be a project for later this week
[20:42] <diogenes_> yeah, our entire life if nothing but a small rest among huge decisions
[20:44] <DarkJarris> so, heres a question that might not have a good answer: if i reinstall should I just throw on ubuntu MATE, or install ubuntu server, then install x.org, mate-desktop, and the programs I want?
[20:44] <DarkJarris> I feel like the server method is more "bloat free"
[20:44] <DarkJarris> buti also feel that getting steam and a full desktop to work would be a bit more of a pain in the ass
[20:46] <DarkJarris> my hunch says that things like graphics drivers will be a bit more of a pain because servers dont usually have them
[20:46] <diogenes_> that question is more of a taste and choice, whenever you have free time and try desperately to find what to fill up your time with, then you can try that
[20:46] <DarkJarris> true, its mostly a subjective question
[20:47] <DarkJarris> though free time is something I never seem to have much of
[20:48] <DarkJarris> though to be fair, i put the regular mate disc in my laptop and it didnt have a lot of rubbish on there by default
[20:48] <DarkJarris> so maybe im making up a problem that doesnt really exist to any real degree
[20:49] <DarkJarris> yeah, i'll just throw the disc in and do it that way
[20:50] <DarkJarris> in fact, i'm pretty sure i have another hard drive i can use. i might just swap them out and do it now
[20:50] <DarkJarris> i can always connect it to copy data off when i need it
[20:50] <diogenes_> good luck
[20:51] <DarkJarris> plus if it goes wrong i can jsut reinstall the drive
[20:51] <DarkJarris> the ultimate backup
[20:51] <DarkJarris> :P
[21:00] <DarkJarris> so i forgot to account for the time to write the iso to usb
[21:00] <DarkJarris> 15 MB/s, gunna be a few minutes
[21:01] <DarkJarris> i usually have a few dvds handy, but i seem to missing a MATE one
[21:01] <DarkJarris> though its nice to know that ive still got my ubuntu 8.10 disc >.>
[22:03] <DarkJarris> Startup finished in 5.551s (kernel) + 20.858s (userspace) = 26.409s
[22:03] <DarkJarris> my god, so much better
[23:17] <gvghjlkc> Is there a better way than command lsusb for someone who wants to know whether his old laptop has 1.1 or 2.0 usb ports?
[23:19] <DarkJarris> obvious question: does the tech specs of the laptop online not say?
[23:19] <_Anna_> He said he has lost the manual...oh you said the online one! Wait a sec
[23:20] <DarkJarris> :P
[23:27] <_Anna_> I can't find it online. Toshiba Tecra A10-11M is quite old :-(
[23:28] <DarkJarris> oh man, toshiba
[23:28] <DarkJarris> i have a deep and personal hatred of toshiba
[23:28] <_Anna_> what? why?
[23:29] <DarkJarris> probably irrational, every peice of hardware theyve made that i've owned has died within a year
[23:29] <DarkJarris> i might jsut be unlucky
[23:29] <DarkJarris> im half convinced i have a toshiba killing aura around me
[23:30] <_Anna_> This laptop is 7 years old and it's still working, so...
[23:33] <DarkJarris> hm, the tech specs dont mention usb at all
[23:34] <DarkJarris> http://www.toshiba.co.il/en/discontinued-products/tecra-a10-11m/
[23:35] <DarkJarris> lsusb might be the best option really
[23:35] <DarkJarris> or "lspci"
[23:36] <DarkJarris> this could also help: https://serverfault.com/questions/96663/how-to-determine-usb-version-1-1-or-2-0
[23:36] <_Anna_> It has 3 ports. lsusb command show me both the numbers 1.1 and 2.0 and that's confusing. Is it the one or the other? I thought it was 2.0 but when I tried to change settings on a virtualbox machine from 1.1 to 2.0 it said "invalid settings detected"!
[23:38] <DarkJarris> i *beleive*, and note that im just hypothesising here, that its saying both for backwards compatibility
[23:38] <DarkJarris> i don't actually *know* though
[23:39] <_Anna_> That means it's 2.0. Then why VirtualBox can't see it?
[23:40] <DarkJarris> have you installed the Oracle VM Extension Pack?
[23:41] <_Anna_> I don't know. I have installed what was included in the downloaded package.
[23:42] <DarkJarris> ok, you probably havent then, its an extra part
[23:42] <DarkJarris> thats the way forward though
[23:43] <_Anna_> vb version 5.0.40
[23:43] <_Anna_> from the software center
[23:43] <_Anna_> Do I need to visit oracle's site then?
[23:44] <DarkJarris> I'm just installing VB myself to check
[23:44] <DarkJarris> I'm fairly sure its in a menu
[23:44] <DarkJarris> otherwise you can install it from oracles site
[23:45] <DarkJarris> *download
[23:46] <_Anna_> I think I found it ---> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[23:47] <DarkJarris> so, you install that in the guest OS, and it will enable some stuff like seamless mode, auto resize screen, and usb 2.0
[23:47] <DarkJarris> its coming back to me
[23:47] <DarkJarris> and probably a few other things that i havent used
[23:48] <_Anna_> in the guest?
[23:48] <DarkJarris> yes
[23:48] <_Anna_> oh... that's why it wasn't included in the original package!
[23:49] <DarkJarris> with the guest running, one of the options along the top will be to install the extras
[23:49] <DarkJarris> itll then ask you for the downloaded package on the host
[23:49] <DarkJarris> and away you go
[23:50] <_Anna_> I haven't installed the guest yet, but the mystery is solved. Thank you.
[23:50] <DarkJarris> no problem