[02:49] <fdsfde> are there any plans to drop firefox?
[03:21] <nacc> nettlejam: brainwash: i responded in the bug and duped it
[03:40] <fdsfde> that is really ridiculous ubuntu still ship the default browser which has less market share than IE
[03:57] <valorie> fdsfde: what browser would you prefer?
[04:33] <fdsfde> chrome of course
[04:36] <valorie> that isn't free open source software
[04:37] <valorie> that said, I use chrome
[04:37] <valorie> I wouldn't want it supplied by default however
[04:46] <valorie> you are free to argue for your POV on Ubuntu-devel or so
[04:56] <fdsfde> chrome is free and open source
[04:59] <Bashing-om> fdsfde: It is chromium that is the open source app .
[06:06] <ducasse> fdsfde: ...and it most definitely isn't free software
[06:11] <valorie> in Kubuntu we'll move to Falkon as soon as it's ready
[06:11] <valorie> but not for this next release
[06:15] <ducasse> interesting. i had not heard of that one before.
[06:20] <valorie> it's a rename of a new project that recently joined the KDE community
[06:20] <valorie> not sure it's available as anything but a snap still
[06:20] <valorie> probably not had an official release yet
[11:11] <ducasse> nacc: ok, i've tested the same snaps here on artful, and they work just fine. i guess it's no use in me filing a bug since i can't reproduce the problem? note: the last poster mentioned installing from software center and i used cli, could that have any impact?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
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[14:42] <nacc> ducasse: i suppose it coudl, but i assume they would both end up in `snap install...`
[14:50] <ducasse> me too, but assumptions can bu a bad thing :)
[16:01] <erle-> how much will Gnome(TM) in Ubuntu be customized?
[16:01] <erle-> will it finally be similar to Gnome from other distros?
[16:02] <erle-> for example will finally you stop breaking Nautilus through patches?
[16:09] <ducasse> aiui a custom theme is used by default, but a more standard session is available. one of the reasons for moving to gnome was to avoid patches, iirc.
[16:12] <erle-> themes are fine
[16:12] <erle-> I am talking about low-level patching of Nautilus and other core apps
[16:13] <ducasse> from what i've heard the whole idea was to get rid of patches, but you should really ask the devs for details on that.
[16:15] <erle-> thanks
[17:21] <AndrzejL> Heh... I was going to blame ubuntu for my arch linux cups server problems. Turns out it was the arch server and lib32-glibc that was the culprit ;)...
[17:48] <AndrzejL> Question for you folks
[17:48] <AndrzejL> How to add PlayOnLinux application launcher to the "Open with application"?
[17:49] <AndrzejL> For example - I want to add Microsoft Office 2007 as my main docx file app
[22:29] <AndrzejL> Ok I've found a possible bug... 
[22:30] <AndrzejL> I have changed the wallpaper and the lock screen wallpaper
[22:30] <AndrzejL> and I've disabled animations
[22:31] <AndrzejL> now everytime I am unlocking the desktop I see a pink rectangle for a second or two before the screen unlocks
[23:56] <maxb> I've upgraded two laptops to artful now
[23:56] <maxb> Both have failed to boot properly due to systemd-networkd-wait-online waiting forever
[23:57] <maxb> It seems like this is too obvious a bug...