=== caribou_ is now known as caribou === JanC_ is now known as JanC [16:00] #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team [16:00] Meeting started Tue Sep 12 16:00:27 2017 UTC. The chair is ahasenack. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:00] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: [16:00] o/ [16:00] #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:01] 2 for nacc: [16:01] * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) [16:01] * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) [16:01] ahasenack: carry [16:01] carry over? [16:01] ok [16:01] #ACTION nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) [16:01] ACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) [16:01] #ACTION nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) [16:01] ACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) [16:01] * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over) [16:01] he is off this week, so I will carry over [16:02] #ACTION rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over) [16:02] ACTION: rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over) [16:02] #topic Artful Development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Artful Development [16:02] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule [16:02] next important date is... [16:02] final beta on the 28th [16:03] and final beta freeze the monday before, so 25th [16:03] #subtopic Current Work [16:03] #link https://trello.com/b/U9HhWyT0/daily-ubuntu-server [16:03] that's our public trello board [16:03] o/ late [16:04] we had two review columns (lists) in there, they were merged into one earlier this week [16:04] there was no need for such fine grained detail [16:04] now it fits in most widescreen monitors :) [16:04] #subtopic Release Bugs [16:04] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server [16:05] I think if someone is working on a bug that he/she wants in artful, it should be nominated as such, then it will show up in this list [16:05] bugfix*, rather :) [16:06] I don't think the server team is using the milestones, at least I haven't seen them being used [16:06] but there is a 17.10 milestone for ubuntu [16:06] any comments? [16:07] moving on [16:07] yes [16:07] (to moving on) [16:07] ah :) [16:07] #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet) [16:07] ddstreet: anything for us? [16:07] only update is the percona lp bug has a new patch attached that fixes the FTBFS [16:07] waiting for rbasak to review it [16:07] no other updates from STS team [16:07] he is on PTO this week [16:08] do you have a link to that bug? [16:08] so we can record it here [16:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5/+bug/1657256 [16:08] Launchpad bug 1657256 in percona-xtradb-cluster-5.6 (Ubuntu) "Percona crashes when doing a a 'larger' update" [Medium,In progress] [16:08] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5/+bug/1657256 [16:08] ddstreet: is that fixed in artful? [16:08] the patch is for artful [16:08] ok [16:09] hm, this bug should show up in the artful report from earlier [16:09] ahasenack: no, it's not targetting artful explicitly [16:09] hence why the above report is basically terminally brokenn [16:09] I added an artful nomination [16:09] we don't use it [16:09] if it's accepted, then it would show up there I think [16:09] ahasenack: yes, but it's not necessary in general [16:10] can someone other than rbasak review that? If not, then only when he is back, very close to the beta freeze [16:11] moving on [16:11] it would be great it anyone else could review it, though it can wait if not [16:11] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server [16:11] and [16:11] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server [16:11] if someone wants to call out any specific bugs [16:12] moving on [16:12] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) [16:13] Server ISOs are currently red due to a priority change, causing testing to fail. The priority change was with console-setup. A fix is committed, however, as of today I still see failures. Also ppc64el testing is on hold due to LP: #1709784 [16:13] Launchpad bug 1709784 in linux (Ubuntu Xenial) "KVM on 16.04.3 throws an error" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1709784 [16:13] Last week also helped the git-ubuntu folks get linting and integration testing added to their CI. yea! \o/ [16:13] This week my hope is to land the KVM backend for cloud-init testing and get ISO tests going again. [16:13] #info ISO testing is blocked by console-setup issues [16:13] #info git-ubuntu has CI [16:13] #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1709784 [16:14] thanks powersj [16:14] oops, missed a link [16:14] #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/ [16:14] moving on [16:14] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee) [16:14] Artful kernel will switch to 4.13 with the next proposed migration. Not sure how soon that is as this week there is Linux Plumbers which some attend. [16:14] That would be all if there are no questions [16:15] thanks smb [16:15] #topic Upcoming Call For Papers === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Upcoming Call For Papers [16:15] #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/ [16:16] I see https://cfp.openfest.org/?locale=en on the 15th [16:16] netdev http://www.netdevconf.org/2.2/submit-proposal.html on the 20th [16:16] t-dose https://www.t-dose.org/2017/cfp on the 30th [16:17] #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:17] none that I'm aware of? [16:17] ok, last topic [16:17] #topic Open Discussion === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Open Discussion [16:17] anyone want to bring something up? [16:18] #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Announce next meeting date, time and chair [16:19] #info Next meeting Tuesday, 2017-09-19 at 1600 UTC, chair will be cpaelzer [16:19] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:19] Meeting ended Tue Sep 12 16:19:24 2017 UTC. [16:19] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-09-12-16.00.moin.txt [16:19] thanks ahasenack [16:21] thanks ahasenack, sorry for being distracted today [16:21] :) [19:58] AZLOCO Team is present and prepared for reverification [19:58] * markthomas is here for that. [19:59] * toddc is here [19:59] Go ubuntu-az [20:00] * MajB is here [20:00] We figured that the first time you spoke. [20:01] Well I was just following suit [20:01] I didn't have any trump anyway [20:01] Now all we need is the LoCo Council members [20:02] MajB you aren’t running this time around? [20:02] I’d vote for you. [20:02] This certainly cannot be a repeat of 2015. [20:06] wxl status [20:09] crickets chirping. [20:10] give it 5 more? [20:10] wxl is on line but probably away from his computer. [20:11] It is their agenda. [20:12] They have known about this for a month. Perhaps that is why we have so few verified Ubuntu LoLo Teams [20:12] i'm here [20:13] unfortunately i do have work which sadly takes precedence [20:13] do we have any other loco members? [20:13] I believe you are the only one present [20:14] unfortunately very little is going to be done wrt to decision making if there are no others [20:14] let me do some poking [20:21] i have now tried to reach out to members of the loco council and the larger community council and have not heard back from anyone [20:22] Recommendation? [20:22] i would suggest that we handle the re-verification by email [20:22] in reality, you folks are in no danger of not getting re-verified :) [20:23] We are aware of that but we still need to be approved. [20:23] typically we do this via bugs to track everything. i'll get in touch with you ASAP about it [20:23] remind me your launchpad again? [20:23] (the team) [20:24] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-arizona [20:24] 1s [20:24] Revalidation application: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Re-validationApplication2017 [20:25] ah good [20:25] you don't expired until november. i'm sure we can get this done well ahead of time [20:26] should some monkey wrench keep it from happening in a timely manner, i will gladly extend your status in ~locoteams-verified until that time which we can get this all fixed [20:26] again, apologies [20:26] expires 17 September [20:26] https://launchpad.net/~locoteams-verified/+members#active [20:27] @meetingology 2017-11-17 [20:27] oops [20:27] i have no idea how that call to meetingology got in there O_O [20:27] It does say november on that link. [20:29] do you agree with markthomas, MajB, or are you seeing something different? [20:29] I had a link that said 17 Sep but I will accept 17 Nov if you say so [20:30] if you have an email with that link in it, click on the link. it should show the november one [20:30] if that's not the case, please get in touch [20:31] I belive I deleted it and just planed on todays meeting [20:32] in past we have had delays so it may be that the remindwe is based on the original date vs our last renewall date [20:33] yeah probably [20:33] and this is an especially tight period for the LoCo Council [20:33] i technically expired but in lieu of having any additional candidates, i offered to step up and help [20:34] that said, if you could extend a little patience to us, we will make sure to get you verified [20:34] lat time we had the same issue that delayed aproval for several months [20:34] i will also ensure that you do not expire from the verified list, so that you can reap the benefits thereof [20:34] minor details [20:34] yes, all i can say is i'm sorry :( [20:35] no problem just let us know what we can do [20:35] i will absolutely be in touch [20:36] thank you [20:36] thank you all! [20:36] Thanks to all that showed up to support az