[00:00] <nacc> demophobia: the pid
[00:00] <nacc> demophobia: of the backgrounded process
[00:00] <nacc> demophobia: (since you started firefox in the background)
[00:03] <demophobia> so 'kill [pid]' is equivalent to alt+f4?
[00:06] <TuxFuk> ehhhh
[00:06] <nacc> demophobia: it depends on how the application is implemented, technically
[00:06] <nacc> demophobia: i mean, generally, both will close the application
[00:06] <nacc> demophobia: the former (kill) is more sever
[00:06] <nacc> *severe
[00:08] <demophobia> What should the terminal be used for? What is more efficient or better to do than GUI with mouse clicking?
[00:09] <TuxFuk> i'm a i3wm guy so I use the terminal for most things
[00:09] <demophobia> I'm thinking keyboard is more efficient than mouse, and hence I should try to use the terminal for as much as possible.
[00:09] <TuxFuk> i don't belive in much mice
[00:09] <demophobia> what is i3wm?
[00:09] <TuxFuk> demophobia: it's a tiling windows manager
[00:09] <TuxFuk> ever see those cool 'riced' out linux desktops?
[00:10] <TuxFuk> 9/10 times they're using i3wm
[00:10] <demophobia> i don't know what you mean, TuxFuk
[00:11] <TuxFuk> demophobia: http://imgur.com/a/XebEp
[00:11] <TuxFuk> that's my setup atm
[00:14] <demophobia> 'tiling'? what is a tile if not a window?
[00:14] <TuxFuk> I don't use ubuntu. i'm here because I was getting some help eariler on getting my gf setup :) this channel is always very helpful whenever I drop in
[00:14] <demophobia> TuxFuk: d'you prefer that block font for ascii art?
[00:15] <TuxFuk> demophobia: i don't usually look at ascii art, but it works out alright
[00:15] <TuxFuk> iirc this is the terminus font
[00:16] <TuxFuk> demophobia: this will explain it better than I can. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager but tiling window managers are generally more focused for work flow and efficiency
[00:17] <demophobia> oh my, i think i like this idea
[00:17] <demophobia> can lubuntu do it?
[00:18] <TuxFuk> http://feeblenerd.blogspot.com/2016/08/walkthrough-for-lubuntu-with-i3-tiling.html
[00:18] <TuxFuk> should be able to
[00:18] <TuxFuk> look up i3wm+gaps. it makes things look pretty like mine
[00:18] <TuxFuk> it puts gaps between windows/tiles
[00:23] <demophobia> 'k thanks, added to my to do list
[00:23] <demophobia> in LXTerminal I did 'leafpad &' then alt+f4 to close, but now the terminal is hanging with "/usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-dark-panel/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:682: Unable to find include file: "apps/xfce4-notifyd.rc"" What should I do?
[00:32] <swift110> hey all
[01:32] <duckinator> is there a way to install the scp package when running the ubuntu installer livecd? like, on the live system itself.
[01:33] <duckinator> (context: i'm attempting to help someone salvage files from a trashed system, and this is the only thing we could get to run right.)
[01:37] <duckinator> nevermind. apparently, since it uses busybox, it includes a very minimal copy of netcat. so she just used netcat to copy the files over lmao
[01:51] <dkdnm> 2018 is looming
[01:51] <dkdnm> no mp3 support out-of-box
[01:59] <oisois> Hiya. I'm new to ubuntu/lubuntu. I've been having issues trying to connect to my school's captive portal. I'm currently using Lubuntu 17.04. Both chrome and firefox say that it can't find the DNS address of the captive portal
[02:02] <AssociateX> Every time  that I log out and then try to log back in I have to mess with the gui until I have a desktop on my lapto and desktop. Is there a way to write this to I can avoid this whole process.
[02:18] <dcypher> Question.... after installing VLC on Ubuntu 16.04.3, Firefox now has no issues with videos. So why would I need to also install browser-plugin-vlc ??
[02:19] <kenrin> In case you had a site that uses vlc embedded
[02:19] <kenrin> I'm pretty sure that plugin no longer works on firefox though,  it is NPAPI
[02:21] <dcypher> Ok, thanks. what is NPAPI?
[02:21] <dcypher> appreciate the info
[02:21] <kenrin> Really old netscape plugin for browser extensions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPAPI
[02:22] <kenrin> Which is why flash no longer works
[02:22] <dcypher> got it.... so unless I have issues, I'm not installing the plugin
[02:23] <barnex> Hello.
[02:29] <dksjjn> where are x session files stored in ubuntu?
[02:37] <donofrio> how would you go about setting up a system that would allow a user to stop and start cron from non-admin account?
[02:38] <Loshki> donofrio: *all* of cron, or just a particular user's cronjobs?
[02:38] <blkadder> Carefully?
[02:40] <donofrio> whatever is needed to start the service (I do not have init tab it seems)
[02:41] <donofrio> I found that cron was not running and that is why my 23hr apt-get update is not running is because cron is not started
[02:44] <donofrio> fwiw I'm running xfce on 17.04 = OS: Linux 4.4.0-43-Microsoft built from https://apaste.info/7KUJ
[02:46] <donofrio> I've setup a service using nssm to run a script that does a bash -c top to start a background bash (aka pid 1) but I need to "service cron start" each time it seems ;(
[02:50] <elricsfate> Hey guys, is there a good place for general Linux questions that are not distro specific?
[02:54] <azaki> elricsfate: #linux
[02:54] <azaki> =o
[02:54] <elricsfate> Thanks
[02:54] <elricsfate> Just hoped on there
[02:56] <ramrebol> hi. Exists some way to "suspend" my laptop for some hours and then turn-on automatically? A symple example: suspend it 5 hours and then play some music (ex: with mplayer).
[02:57] <ramrebol> I know that I can to use "sleep 5h; mplayer play_someting.ogg", but I want to suspend my laptop, and "sleep" don't do that.
[03:09] <on3pk> I've had a problem using visual studio code on all flavors of Ubuntu and multiple versions.  It seems like it's *probably* Microsoft's fault, but I'm wondering if there is a workaround to the screenflickering thing
[03:22] <on3pk> Hm, so this problem also happens with Atom
[03:22] <on3pk> I wonder if it's an Electron problem and not a Ubuntu problem
[03:23] <Fretegi> evening folks
[03:28] <ScriptKiddie_> Hello. What's the best way to emulate dropbox, and have a folder synced with all 3 of my computers (one is OS X, one is Ubuntu, one is Windows)
[03:29] <ScriptKiddie_> I guess there has to be some sort of "hosting" server
[03:30] <bazhang> ScriptKiddie_, whats wrong with dropbox
[03:30] <ScriptKiddie_> bazhang: Nothing, probably going to use it lol
[03:31] <ScriptKiddie_> The total amount of files is way under the limit they give you for free
[03:34] <Spec> syncthing, owncloud
[03:34] <ScriptKiddie_> Spec: Don't tell me what to do
[03:34] <ScriptKiddie_> I don't kiss and tell
[03:34] <Spec> i did not
[03:35] <ScriptKiddie_> Spec: What do you use?
[03:35] <Spec> for what?
[03:37] <ScriptKiddie_> Basically, having a folder on each computer that's synced, meaning updating one folder will update the others
[03:38] <ScriptKiddie_> This is quite a strange phenomenon
[03:38] <ScriptKiddie_> How does a filesystem update
[03:39] <ScriptKiddie_> Does the kernel itself keep some sort of log
[03:39] <ScriptKiddie_> because if that's the case, the kernel would have to ask other computers for the updated folder
[03:40] <ScriptKiddie_> if I delete a file in the syncedFolder on computer A, how would computer B find that out?
[03:43] <on3pk> Ok, so the screen flickering issues seem to be gpu related.  Is there a way to disable hardware acceleration system wide?
[03:51] <KHIIBOTs> Hi.
[03:51] <KHIIBOTs> Im Having Some problems Booting from windows 10 to ubuntu
[03:53] <KHIIBOTs> Anyone able to help at the momment?
[03:54] <KHIIBOTs> Ubuntu 16
[03:54] <a1f> is this a new dualboot install on one drive?
[03:57] <KHIIBOTs> Yes
[03:57] <KHIIBOTs> I had to reinstall ubuntu
[03:57] <KHIIBOTs> Windows 10
[03:57] <KHIIBOTs> Doesnt show the grub and ran a diskcheck on disk 1 corrupted file.
[03:57] <KHIIBOTs> redownloading it but Ubuntu 17
[03:58] <KHIIBOTs> And Yes Im trying to Dual Boot
[03:59] <a1f> ... and you can boot to the ubuntu partition but not the windows10 partition?
[04:00] <KHIIBOTs> Cant boot to ubuntu
[04:00] <KHIIBOTs> Grub is not even showing
[04:00] <a1f> o
[04:00] <KHIIBOTs> Just boots to windows 10 automaticly
[04:00] <a1f> hmm, that usually happens if you install windows after ubuntu
[04:01] <KHIIBOTs> Ok.
[04:01] <KHIIBOTs> This is what was done.
[04:01] <KHIIBOTs> Winows was allready installed.
[04:02] <KHIIBOTs> I installed an older Ubutnu verishhion but it got corrupted somehow so I reinstalled it.
[04:02] <KHIIBOTs> On a new USB exc/
[04:03] <KHIIBOTs> I just got a grey screen when i tried to boot from F12 menu
[04:03] <KHIIBOTs> booted via USB andd checked disk errors and 1 corrupt file or whatever
[04:03] <Bashing-om> KHIIBOTs: A thought . Win10 == UEFI, installed ubuntu in leagcy mode, and now booting UEFI and bios can not hand off to the boot code ??
[04:05] <KHIIBOTs> Yea.
[04:05] <a1f> installing a new version of the os is probably the fastest solution
[04:05] <KHIIBOTs> Ok.
[04:05] <KHIIBOTs> im doing that now right now
[04:05] <a1f> but im not sure about the errors
[04:05] <a1f> :/
[04:05] <KHIIBOTs> Yea.
[04:05] <KHIIBOTs> It was fine for  a while.
[04:05] <KHIIBOTs> Never downloaded anything
[04:05] <KHIIBOTs> and stopped working
[04:06] <a1f> hmm, ... is the drive old?
[04:06] <KHIIBOTs> It would show login then just go flssh rainbow and go to grey
[04:06] <a1f> hdd or ssd?
[04:06] <KHIIBOTs> SSD
[04:06] <KHIIBOTs> new computer
[04:06] <a1f> k
[04:06] <KHIIBOTs> Worked well for a bit
[04:06] <a1f> i also don't use uefi, so i can't comment on that
[04:07] <KHIIBOTs> Is there a better solution?
[04:07] <a1f> i thought this was just a grub issue
[04:07] <KHIIBOTs> Me to
[04:07] <KHIIBOTs> I did a fresh instaltion an hour ago
[04:07] <KHIIBOTs> of Ubuntu 16 and it dint work.
[04:07] <KHIIBOTs> Doing 17 Right Now.
[04:08] <a1f> hmm, a frash install should have taken care of the dualboot issue
[04:08] <a1f> or at least boot only to ubuntu
[04:08] <KHIIBOTs> Yes it should have!
[04:09] <KHIIBOTs> If it helps I have a dell insprion 5000
[04:09] <KHIIBOTs> I have used linux many many times without problems.
[04:09] <KHIIBOTs> Could be a bug?
[04:10] <a1f> not sure, but i would try turning off uefi and only using legacy booting
[04:11] <a1f> and installing ubuntu after that
[04:11] <KHIIBOTs> Ok.
[04:12] <a1f> although, im not sure if your windows10 install would get corrupted
[04:12] <KHIIBOTs> I have a backup of it
[04:12] <a1f> cools
[04:12] <KHIIBOTs> and tbh I hate win 10.
[04:12] <KHIIBOTs> ubuntu is so much cleaner
[04:12] <a1f> if you can afford to loss it, then i'd go for it
[04:13] <KHIIBOTs> Yes but the moment 2 months when ya need windows again haha
[04:13] <KHIIBOTs> hate it when that happens.
[04:13] <a1f> ... why keep win10 at all ?
[04:14] <a1f> ... you could just have most of that windows stuff run well in a vm
[04:14] <KHIIBOTs> I use it once a month ish
[04:14] <KHIIBOTs> But i can do with win 7
[04:14] <KHIIBOTs> Just trying to dual boot for now
[04:14] <a1f> k
[04:15] <a1f> i've never had any issues as long as i'm using legacy booting, install winX first, boot to it, update it ... wait ...
[04:16] <a1f> ... after the updates, install ubuntu
[04:16] <KHIIBOTs> Yes.
[04:16] <KHIIBOTs> Thats what I did
[04:16] <a1f> doh
[04:16] <KHIIBOTs> Yep.
[04:16] <a1f> hmm
[04:16] <KHIIBOTs> I also booted in to recovery mode before the shit crashed and I had to reinsall
[04:16] <a1f> might be something about that laptops bios settings
[04:17] <KHIIBOTs> Yea.
[04:17] <a1f> hmmmm
[04:17] <a1f> does it work okish under win10?
[04:17] <KHIIBOTs> Yes
[04:17] <KHIIBOTs> USB wise yes
[04:17] <a1f> i mean, for a win10 box
[04:17] <KHIIBOTs> Dont have one.
[04:17] <a1f> k
[04:18] <KHIIBOTs> But I have done a boot on USB on one.
[04:18] <KHIIBOTs> And it worked fine.
[04:19] <KHIIBOTs> Burning V17 Now :)
[04:19] <a1f> good luck!
[04:20] <a1f> is secure boot turned off in the bios?
[04:20] <KHIIBOTs> Would be nice if i could just buy a ubtunu computer haha
[04:21] <a1f> you can
[04:21] <a1f> system76
[04:21] <a1f> think penguin
[04:21] <a1f> there are a few others
[04:21] <KHIIBOTs> Thnks!
[04:21] <a1f> (y)
[04:23] <KHIIBOTs> So dont boot in UFEI
[04:23] <KHIIBOTs> Correct?
[04:23] <a1f> yeah
[04:23] <a1f> at least that's my opinion
[04:23] <a1f> i never use it
[04:23] <KHIIBOTs> yahoo
[04:23] <KHIIBOTs> Burned to USB
[04:24] <KHIIBOTs> ill go do the bios settings right now
[04:24] <KHIIBOTs> brb
[04:24] <a1f> k
[04:32] <KHIIBOTs> Well that didnt work.
[04:32] <KHIIBOTs> Doesnt let me disable UFI to turn on legasy boot
[04:35] <a1f> is there a secure boot option?
[04:47] <KHIIBOTs> It worked
[04:47] <KHIIBOTs> via OEM install
[04:47] <KHIIBOTs> But not regular install
[04:48] <KHIIBOTs> Kinda odd @a1f?
[04:48] <KHIIBOTs> I just swiched from legsy boot and back to UFEFI and it showed up
[04:49] <a1f> cools!
[04:49] <KHIIBOTs> Is there a bug fourm?
[04:50] <a1f> ?
[04:50] <a1f> i wouldn't know
[05:38] <dl8bh> Hi
[05:39] <dl8bh> I am just trying (and currently failing) to build a custom ubuntu installer with live-build for 16.04
[05:40] <dl8bh> does anybody know, if this way of building live/installer images is still supported by ubuntu?
[05:47] <dl8bh> even with simple "lb config --distribution xenial; lb build"
[05:47] <dl8bh> it fails building the default hybrid image
[05:56] <dl8bh> if I set the binary-image type to ISO, the resulting image fails to find /casper/vmlinuz
[06:58] <c06> i am trying to access firefox in remote machine; facing error cannot open display.?
[06:58] <c06> any suggestions.??
[07:02] <ducasse> c06: are you using ssh?
[07:03] <c06> ducasse: ssh -xY user@ip
[07:04] <ducasse> c06: why the x?
[07:04] <c06> ducasse: x11 forwarding
[07:04] <c06> remote machine
[07:04] <jink> -X enables, -x disables.
[07:05] <jink> (case matters)
[07:07] <c06> oops ok but still same error
[07:10] <auser_> hey everyone
[07:11] <auser_> i keep on getting E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[07:11] <auser_> tried apt-get clean and it's now working, what am i supposed to do ?
[07:13] <TomyWork> hi
[07:14] <ducasse> c06: what is DISPLAY set to?
[07:14] <TomyWork> on suse systems, "zypper ps" shows processes using files that were removed/overwritten by package installations. is there a similar mechanism in ubuntu?
[07:14] <c06> ducasse: localhost:10.0
[07:15] <ducasse> c06: what's running on the machine you're ssh'ing from?
[07:16] <egelor> hi i can't login facebook from empathy.
[07:16] <TomyWork> try support@facebook.com
[07:16] <c06> ducasse: i want to run firefox in that remote machine '
[07:16] <TomyWork> *shudder*
[07:16] <egelor> TomyWork: thank you!
[07:17] <c06> ducasse: also Xorg is not running in tat remote machine
[07:17] <TomyWork> egelor that's probably not their preferred support channel though. i was just being facetious
[07:17] <ducasse> c06: you need to be specific when you ask, then - https://askubuntu.com/questions/47642/how-to-start-a-gui-software-on-a-remote-linux-pc-via-ssh
[07:18] <egelor> TomyWork: nevermind thanks anyway
[07:18] <auser_> anyone : i keep on getting E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/. ?
[07:18] <TomyWork> but i cant even comprehend why you'd put all your private data in the hands of a company whose CEO once famously said "privacy is dead", so i probably cant really help you anyway
[07:19] <Ben64> auser_: free more space
[07:20] <auser_> Ben64, https://i.imgur.com/V3bINti.png
[07:20] <Ben64> yep, free more space
[07:20] <auser_> may i know how do check what I'm supposed to delete?
[07:20] <TomyWork> i just answered my own question: "checkrestart" from the "debian-goodies" package covers the functionality of "zypper ps"
[07:20] <auser_> where are those 20GB are ?
[07:20] <TomyWork> and much more... even tells you what you need to run to restart some of the processes :)
[07:20] <Ben64> auser_: try ncdu
[07:21] <Ben64> auser_: don't just start deleting stuff though
[07:21] <TomyWork> auser_ df -h /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:21] <TomyWork> that should show you how much is used on that path's partition and, more importantly, where that partition starts
[07:21] <auser_> df -h /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:21] <auser_> Filesystem     Type  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[07:22] <TomyWork> i.e. where it is mounted
[07:22] <TomyWork> auser_ pastebins are better for this kind of stuff
[07:22] <TomyWork> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[07:22] <auser_> ty, so even ncdu I'm unable to install it
[07:22] <TomyWork> auser_ so it's at 100%?
[07:22] <TomyWork> try "apt-get clean"
[07:22] <auser_> TomyWork, will use it next time, my bad.
[07:23] <TomyWork> that could free up *some* space
[07:23] <auser_> done that, but didn't help
[07:23] <TomyWork> hrm
[07:23] <auser_> maybe I've mistakenly downloaded something there?
[07:23] <TomyWork> possibly
[07:23] <TomyWork> auser_ so where is the mount starting?
[07:24] <TomyWork> the last line from that command i gave you was the most interesting one, and it got cut off
[07:24] <TomyWork> so i still dont know what the mountpoint for that directory is
[07:24] <ducasse> auser_: 'du -shx / | sort -h'
[07:24] <TomyWork> ducasse what if he has a /var mount?
[07:25] <ducasse> TomyWork: he hasn't, he showed a df screenshot
[07:25] <TomyWork> ah so that's what that was
[07:26] <jbergok> hi. im trying to install lubuntu with debootstrap and now i want to partition my hdd with lvm. i only have a single ssd and have made one bootable ext2 500M partition for /boot and the rest of the disk is lvm partition. then i have a volume group and added a swap partition under that volume group. im just wondering what a good partition scheme would look for the rest of the ~100G space or so? i want
[07:26] <jbergok> partitions for / /home /etc /usr and /data, but not sure what size they should be?
[07:27] <ducasse> jbergok: you want /etc on a separate partition?
[07:28] <auser_> ducasse, TomyWork  du -shx / | sort -h
[07:28] <auser_> 19G     /
[07:28] <jbergok> is 5G for /, 5G for /home, 100M for /etc, 20G for /usr and maybe 60G for /data is that ok? do i need bigger/smaller / or /usr partitions?
[07:28] <TomyWork> auser_ again, pastebin
[07:28] <jbergok> ducasse: i thought that was a good idea so i can format root partition and still keep my configurations?
[07:29] <ducasse> jbergok: no, i'm not even sure that will work
[07:29] <c06> ducasse: still unable to open display error
[07:29] <jbergok> ducasse: okay. ill drop the /etc partition and just have / /home /usr and /data
[07:30] <ducasse> auser_: 'du -shx / | sort -h'
[07:30] <auser_> TomyWork, I thought it would show in one line, my bad again.
[07:30] <TomyWork> auser_ also, ducasse gave you the wrong command. the "s" makes it only calculate a cumulative value. remove it (and for the love of god, do not paste the result into the channel :))
[07:30] <ducasse> auser_: 'du -shx /* | sort -h' - sorry
[07:30] <hateball> jbergok: if you're using LVM, why would you need a bunch of different partitions? You can just add drives to the LVM pool and keep a single /
[07:30] <c06> using ssh -X , access firefox ; i set DISPLAY=IP:1.0
[07:30] <TomyWork> yeah that is probably more concise for a first overview
[07:31] <EriC^^> c06: did you do xhost +local: ?
[07:31] <ducasse> TomyWork: the -s is to sum up the dirs, i just forgot the wildcard :)
[07:32] <EriC^^> c06: nevermind
[07:32] <ducasse> c06: what will firefox attach to with no x server? you can try xvfb
[07:32] <c06> EriC^^: xhost +local: xhost:  unable to open display "ip:1.0"
[07:32] <jbergok> hateball: i only have single ssd disk in this laptop, and that has 2 partitions, one 500M ext2 for /boot and the rest is a single lvm partition. these / /home /usr and /data are really just logical volumes under the main volume group
[07:34] <jbergok> hateball: it's the size of the logical volumes i guess im wondering about. 5G for /, 5G for /home, 20G for /usr and 60G for /data
[07:35] <c06> ducasse: but my remote machine has xserver-*
[07:35] <jbergok> if the root and /usr have enough space
[07:35] <ducasse> c06: but is an x server _running_?
[07:37] <ducasse> jbergok: i don't see a reason to split out /usr either, honestly
[07:37] <c06> ducasse: xdpyinfo xdpyinfo:  unable to open display "ip:1.0".
[07:38] <ducasse> c06: i asked you a question, please answer it
[07:39] <auser_> ty ducasse, i did try to move something there by mistake, it's all sorted now mate.
[07:39] <c06> ducasse: i dont know how to check x server is running or not,..!!
[07:40] <auser_> https://i.imgur.com/UlMmmDT.png is that normal size usage of /usr ? it has 3.6gb used out of 20 gb
[07:40] <ducasse> c06: is this a vps or something?
[07:40] <Ben64> auser_: use a paste service for text
[07:41] <Ben64> posting an image of text, especially one that is very difficult to see, is not great
[07:41] <ducasse> c06: plus, you said "09:17 <c06> ducasse: also Xorg is not running in tat remote machine"
[07:41] <auser_> okay, will do that. Thanks.
[07:42] <c06> ducasse: ps -aux | grep X - i did nothing its showing
[07:43] <jbergok> ducasse: hmm, i thought people usually recommended you have many partitions, like /usr /var /tmp etc..
[07:43] <ducasse> jbergok: only if they have a reason for them - on a mail server you might want a separate /var to avoid filling / with mail etc
[07:43] <c06> ducasse: also about vps machine, i am not sure. not having full knowledge about this machine network..
[07:44] <jbergok> but how big should / be if i dont have separate /usr partition
[07:44] <ducasse> c06: then where do you actually want firefox to display?
[07:44] <jbergok> ducasse: okay i see
[07:44] <jbergok> is 30 gig okay for /?
[07:45] <c06> ducasse: i login into that machine using ssh -X ip; and export DISPLAY=ip:1.0; then running firefox
[07:45] <ducasse> c06: but where do you want the firefox window to appear?
[07:46] <c06> ducasse: in my terminal..!
[07:47] <ducasse> c06: are you on a windows machine?
[07:47] <ducasse> c06: you keep changing your answers here
[07:48] <psychoticwarrior> ity ity
[07:48] <c06> ducasse: wait i ll share the thing in paste; taht will be better
[07:50] <ducasse> c06: just tell me what is running on your local machine - i asked you this ages ago
[07:51] <c06> ducasse: sorry, actually i got confused everything i am talking about only remote machine. my machine is windows; using mobaxterm i am accessing that machine
[07:52] <ducasse> c06: you need an x server for windows, then
[07:52] <ducasse> c06: as i said, firefox needs an x server to attach to
[07:53] <EriC^^> c06: why are you trying to run firefox from another machine?
[07:53] <c06> my mobaxterm have default xserver running
[07:53] <c06> ducasse: ^^
[07:53] <c06>  EriC^^ there is some dashboard running over there i want to access that one. so only
[07:54] <ducasse> c06: well, you can't connect to it - check the settings. this is not an ubuntu problem.
[07:54] <psychoticwarrior> bazhang is a lame
[07:58] <c06> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25519662/ (what exactly i am doing) and https://ibb.co/c6jEzF (xorg windows setting)
[07:59] <ducasse> c06: don't export anything
[08:01] <c06> ducasse: its working i used every ssh with -X
[08:01] <c06> ducasse: now it got opened.. :-D
[08:02] <ducasse> c06: next time please answer questions correctly and give the necessary information straight away, ok?
[08:02] <c06> ducasse: ok sure and sorry for wasting the time.. thanks dude..
[08:08] <TomyWork> ducasse fyi, http://mobaxterm.mobatek.net/ says there's an x server in mobaxterm
[08:08] <egelor> set the environment variables JSON_CFLAGS
[08:08] <egelor> and JSON_LIBS t
[08:08] <egelor> ??
[08:09] <egelor> locate pkgconfig | grep -i json
[08:09] <egelor> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/jsoncpp.pc
[08:11] <Inte>  hello, i'm trying to configure my network but I receive: "netstat: no support for `AF AX25' on this system." on Ubuntu 16.04
[08:16] <ducasse> Inte: please don't crosspost
[08:16] <egelor> ok i did it
[08:23] <steven> this sounds ridiculous but I simply cant figure out where its defined, I have two network shares listed in nautilus and when I try to connect to them nautilus says it cant connect to them. so far so good. I have simlply no idea where those are defined
[08:23] <steven> its not in my fstab. I cant edit/delete them in nautilus. and I dont know how to list properties of sorts to see where they're defined
[08:24] <steven> so is there a special nautilus config file of sorts?
[08:25] <ducasse> have you looked in ~/.config?
[08:26] <steven> let me grep the folder for the name of the share
[08:26] <ducasse> or under ~/.local?
[08:30] <steven> still waiting for grep to finish :D
[08:31] <steven> not it any of those ducasse
[08:31] <ducasse> maybe it's stored in gsettings/dconf?
[08:32] <steven> do you happened to know the path to the setting?
[08:33] <ducasse> those need to be accessed by software afaik
[08:33] <steven> I know, but its still a path :)
[08:33] <steven> its not in there either anyway
[08:36] <akik> steven: maybe /home/yourusername/.gnome2/nautilus-share-modified-permissions
[08:36] <akik> scratch that :)
[08:36] <akik> maybe find $HOME -iname "*permissions*"
[08:37] <akik> ubuntuforums also mentions /var/lib/samba/usershares if it's a samba share
[08:38] <steven> first doesnt exist, latter is empty
[08:38] <steven> this is ridiculous :D
[08:38] <akik> steven: did you run that find command?
[08:40] <steven> yeah, nothing related to nautilus tho
[08:41] <yasonTR> Hello, I have a Intel i7-2600 CPU. Should I download ubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso or ubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-i386.iso ?
[08:42] <ducasse> yasonTR: amd64
[08:42] <akik> steven: have you search through the dconf-editor?
[08:42] <akik> searched
[08:43] <yasonTR> ducasse: thanks
[08:43] <steven> I did
[08:44] <yasonTR> What's the easiest (fool proof) way to make a .iso bootable on USB drive in ubuntu?
[08:44] <akik> hiding information from users, case ...
[08:44] <egelor> ok the only way to connect to facebook is with pidgin and the plugin purple-facebook that needs libpurple-dev libpurple-bin libjson-glib and the dev and last mercusian. Now i'm in
[08:44] <egelor> thanks i did it
[08:44] <akik> yasonTR: if it's a ubuntu hybrid iso, just write it with dd
[08:44] <yasonTR> ok, i'll check dd
[08:45] <steven> maybe I should just purge nautilus from my system and hope it removes all stored settings
[08:45] <Ben64> steven: bad idea
[08:46] <steven> yeah well, I dont feel like running grep -Rian / to find out where nautilus stores it
[08:46] <steven> that would take hours :D
[08:46] <Ben64> is it there under a guest user
[08:47] <akik> steven: is it under ~/.gvfs ?
[08:47] <ducasse> steven: try #gnome?
[08:47] <steven> empty as well akik
[08:48] <akik> steven: how about /run/user/username/gvfs ?
[08:49] <steven> oh look at this
[08:49] <akik> steven: or "gvfs-mount -li" if that lists it
[08:49] <steven> d????????? ? ? ? ? ? gvfs/ in run ..
[08:50] <steven> oh the volume is listed akik :)
[08:51] <akik> sherlock akik
[08:51] <steven> now if there was a way to figure out where those are defined
[09:24] <MK_Ultra> is that awkward to put my social security number in my whois?
[09:25] <Aginor> MK_Ultra: it's a very bad idea
[09:25] <Aginor> MK_Ultra: whois information is public
[09:26] <MK_Ultra> fuck you
[09:27] <neure> hi
[09:27] <neure> when i do sudo apt-get build-dep sshfs, i get E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[09:27] <neure> why is that?
[09:28] <Ben64> neure: probably because you have a messed up sources.list
[09:29] <brainwash> messed up? nah
[09:30] <brainwash> you have to enable "Sources" in the update manager config
[09:30] <brainwash> or, manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:31] <MK_Ultra> Mira Mesa, CA is a training ground for USA intelligence agents
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[09:32] <Ben64> !ops
[09:32] <MK_Ultra> * #freenode :Cannot send to channel
[09:45] <steven> eh wth Draecos I was curious where he was going with this :D
[09:45] <steven> Drone: I meant, sorry
[10:01] <FManTropyx> my Ubuntu is stuck
[10:02] <neure> how do i build project which uses autotools?
[10:02] <neure> instructions starrt with ./configure, but there is no such file
[10:03] <neure> i see configure.ac though
[10:04] <glitsj16> neure: run ./autogen.sh
[10:04] <glitsj16> that will create ./configure to proceed
[10:24] <multifractal> I want to see logs while my laptop boots up and shuts down. Do I open /etc/default/grub, change `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"` to `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset"` (i.e. delete the `quiet splash` part) and then $sudo update-grub ??
[10:32] <hateball> multifractal: Yes
[10:44] <AndChat658209> I am confused as to what distro I need to be using - server or cloud. I will be setting up 1 machine but with multiple LXCs. Which would be best and what is the difference?
[10:48] <ducasse> AndChat658209: aiui cloud is snappy-based, server uses apt.
[10:49] <ducasse> AndChat658209: https://www.ubuntufree.com/what-is-ubuntu-cloud/
[10:51] <AndChat658209> @ducasse but I can get snaps for server as well? Or is it snappy core .... Just read the link thanks for the help.
[10:53] <ducasse> AndChat658209: you can use snaps on server as well, i mean the os install for cloud is snap-based - it doesn't use snap packages at all. i could very well have misunderstood  that, though.
[10:53] <ducasse> *doesn't use apt packages
[11:09] <MacroMan> What's the huge ramdisk that's automatically created but seemingly unused?: tmpfs           3.2G     0  3.2G   0% /run/user/1000
[11:09] <MacroMan> I've never created that disk.
[11:10] <Ben64> system creates them for various purposes
[11:11] <MacroMan> Can I assume that if the mount is empty, then it won't actually be using any memory?
[11:11] <Ben64> correct
[11:11] <MacroMan> Thanks
[11:45] <jbergok> hi, im trying to install lubuntu with a live disk and debootstrap. so far i have only partitioned my drive with LVM, i have a 3 lvs, named: root, home and data. the install guide says i should mount them under /mnt, but how does that work? if i mount /dev/mapper/lubuntu-root under /mnt/ i can't mount /dev/mapper/lubuntu-{data,home} ? how should i mount these under mount?
[11:47] <yasonTR> I am running a cluster of Unison nodes. I want to add a node. I just copied my profile to ~/.unison/<profile>.prf. If I now run `unison <profile>`, will all files be downloaded/synchronized and thus start from fresh? I want to avoid that somehow Unison thinks all files deleted and therefore all files on the existing nodes will be deleted!
[11:48] <ducasse> jbergok: you mount /dev/mapper/lubuntu-home on /mnt/home (data does not need to be mounted to install the os, home only for the user-creation part to get the default setup)
[11:53] <jbergok> ducasse: but if i mount /dev/mapper/lubuntu-root on /mnt/ first, then try to mount /dev/mapper/lubuntu-home on /mnt/home it says /mnt/home doesn't exist anymore
[11:53] <ducasse> jbergok: well, you would need to create it first
[11:54] <ducasse> jbergok: out of interest, why are you using debootstrap?
[11:54] <jbergok> ducasse: i have /mnt/home, but after i mount /dev/mapper/lubuntu-root then /mnt is empty. should i make /mnt/home and /mnt/data *after* i've mounted /dev/mapper/lubuntu-root?
[11:56] <ducasse> jbergok: yes, of course - you are preparing the filesystem on /dev/mapper/lubuntu-root for the new install
[11:56] <jbergok> ducasse: thanks, i think that worked (creating /mnt/home and /mnt/data after mount the root filesystem on /mnt)
[11:58] <ducasse> jbergok: do you have a particular reason for not just using an installer?
[12:00] <EriC^^>  #Linux
[12:01] <jbergok> ducasse: it fucks up when i try to tell it to use encrypted lvm. says i need to turn off swap because swap is not encrypted and i need to set up encrypted swap somehow
[12:02] <jbergok> ducasse: do you know if the release codename i should use for debootstrap is just 'zesty'? or zesty zapus>
[12:03] <ducasse> jbergok: watch the language, please. did you try the alternate installer? it gives you a lot more control...
[12:03] <ducasse> just zesty
[12:04] <jbergok> ducasse: hmm no. where do i find the alternate installer? also, this is a pretty slow laptop, so i want only minimum install and then install xmonad or i3 or lubuntu or something
[12:05] <dballenger> 2/win 2
[12:05] <ducasse> jbergok: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO - this uses the debian-based installer, and lets you select exactly what to install. would save you a lot of time and effort.
[12:09] <ducasse> jbergok: this would be the zesty image, seems the page is not updated - http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/zesty/release/
[12:10] <Adnol> i am making peepeepoopies folks
[12:13] <acresearch> people, what is the best desktop screen video recorder for ubuntu 17.04?
[12:13] <oerheks> recordmydesktop works fine
[12:14] <oerheks> but there is no single best, use the one you like best, acresearch
[12:14] <acresearch> oerheks: hmmm, i am just looking for one that records in HD and outputs in a format that allows editing (not sure what is the standard format).
[12:15] <ducasse> acresearch: 'best' is completely subjective, kazam is also popular i think
[12:15] <acresearch> ducasse: hmmm
[12:15] <Adnol> im in school listening to a bunch of bitchy white/mexican girls
[12:15] <Adnol> screech and call eachother hoes
[12:15] <oerheks> !ot | Adnol
[12:16] <Adnol> oo can i do that
[12:16] <Adnol> !ot | oeheks
[12:16] <jbergok> ducasse: thanks
[12:17] <oerheks> Adnol,  you are warned now, keep ontopic or go to an other channel for chitchat, thanks.
[12:17] <Adnol> I didn't realize you were an OP
[12:18] <ducasse> Adnol: that shouldn't make any difference
[12:18] <Adnol> it does
[12:18] <Adnol> if your not an OP then ill ignore u
[12:18] <Adnol> yayo
[12:21] <acresearch> hmm, ok I am using simple recoder
[12:21] <acresearch> its seems ok, testing the quality now
[12:22] <jbergok> im following this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/AdvancedMethods but have problems with number 7. MAKEDEV command not found
[12:22] <Promille> Hi guys. For some reason my /boot (sda1) is very small (236MB in total). I want to extend it, but I'm afraid of reducing the size of the main partition sda2 because it's encrypted with Ubuntus  built in functionality (crypt-luks). Is there any way to do this safely. And as a temporary work around, can I remove some of these files from /boot without messing anything up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25520671/?
[12:23] <oerheks> Promille, with encrypted you *could* resize, i would not risc it .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions#Reduce_an_encrypted_partition
[12:23] <Promille> oerheks: Thanks. Yeah, I'm a bit too chicken to try it :)
[12:23] <Hathadar> How may I bring all of my terminals into the foreground of my desktop?
[12:23] <Hathadar> all of my open terminals*
[12:24] <Adnol> anyone here into diapers/farts
[12:24] <Adnol> woops wrong channel
[12:24] <oerheks> !info makedev
[12:24] <Promille> Hathadar: I'm pretty certain theres an option for making them visible always (however, transparent) in compiz config settings manager (ccsm)
[12:25] <V7> Hey all
[12:25] <V7> Chrome doesn't open on "Linux v7-x3 4.10.0-33-generic #37~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 11 14:07:24 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[12:25] <ioria> Topeka
[12:25] <oerheks> jbergok, it is optional, install that first
[12:25] <V7> Could you please help me ?
[12:26] <Promille> Easier question: Can I remove some of these files from /boot without messing anything up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25520671/?
[12:26] <V7> It was working, but now it's not
[12:26] <V7> it doesn't *
[12:26] <Promille> !ccsm
[12:27] <Promille> !ccsm | Hathadar
[12:28] <oerheks> V7, what happens when you remove the google-chrome stuff from ~/.config and restat chrome?
[12:28] <oerheks> c/restart
[12:28] <V7> oerheks: Do you want me to remove all bookmarks ?
[12:28] <oerheks> V7, well, they are useless now
[12:29] <V7> I've renamed it and it started
[12:29] <jbergok> oerheks: hmm what do you mean? should i do apt-get install makedev inside the chroot?
[12:29] <V7> But why it wasn't ?
[12:29] <bounceman> Hello, does anyone know in which version UFW implemented comments for rules? I am currently running ufw 0.31.1-2 and it does not seem to be available to me.
[12:30] <oerheks> V7, but you can save them no, browse to ~/.config/google-chrome/Default/  and copy bookmarks
[12:30] <ducasse> Promille: don't just remove the files, use dpkg -P to purge the packages instead
[12:31] <V7> Yeah
[12:31] <V7> I've copied Default dir and all worked
[12:31] <V7> Thank you very much : )
[12:31] <V7> This was strange ...
[12:32] <Promille> ducasse: Thanks
[12:32] <oerheks> jbergok, i think so ??
[12:32] <Promille> ducasse: But are they safe to purge?
[12:32] <Hathadar> ubottu, I don't want to modify the terminal itself.  I see them grouped on the left side of the desktop.  I want to bring a group of applications to the foreground.  Is there something in unity that will allow me to do this?
[12:33] <Hathadar> ur, Promille
[12:33] <ducasse> Promille: just purge the one(s) you don't need, keep at _least_ one that is known to be working
[12:33] <shivanand_47> my ubuntu 16.04 not shutting down properly. It stucks at splash screen with ubuntu logo and then it stays forever. To shut it down, I manually have to long press the power button. Any solution??
[12:33] <oerheks> Hathadar, click on the header, right mouse , 'always on top'
[12:33] <Promille> ducasse: Thanks
[12:33] <V7> Thank you
[12:34] <vlt> shivanand_47: You could disable the splash screen and try to find out at what point exactly it stops.
[12:35] <linocisco> hi all,
[12:35] <linocisco> what is gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0 for ?
[12:36] <ducasse> linocisco: 'apt show gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0' will tell you
[12:36] <shivanand_47> vlt: will try that. BTW, are there any shutdown logs?
[12:36] <Promille> Hathadar: I'm a little confused on what you want to do exactly. Compiz can help you accomplish this: https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/banner2.png Is this more or less what you want?
[12:36] <oerheks> linocisco, easy to find, GObject introspection data for the PackageKit GLib library https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0
[12:36] <vlt> shivanand_47: syslog until it, well, gets shut down.
[12:37] <Promille> Hathadar: Can you provide a screenshot of the current state of the applications?
[12:40] <shivanand_47> vlt: one quick query. The shutdown works fine if I do less work (say for 10-15 mins). But when I try to shutdown after working for couple of hours, it stucks there.
[12:44] <vlt> shivanand_47: Don't know. Ideas: A stale NFS mount, a hard drive in sleep mode that doesn't wake up ...
[12:44] <Hathadar> Promille, your screenshot is not what I am looking for.  If I have many applications of the same type (terminals in this case) I want to simply bring them all into focus or foreground without having to alt-tab to them one after the other.
[12:48] <Promille> Hathadar: Ah ok, I understand now. Maybe this is of some help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/346169/shortcut-to-bring-all-open-terminals-to-the-front
[12:48] <acresearch> is there video editing software for ubuntu?
[12:49] <Promille> ducasse: Managed to clean up my boot by running "sudo apt-get remove --purge" respectively for each kernel I don't use, and it deleted to respective files neatly. Thank you for help
[12:50] <donofrio> how granular is sudoers, like can I enable service cron start (the cron start I need) but would like not all services to be controllable from non-privileged acount
[12:51] <Hathadar> Promille, that will do.  Thx.
[12:52] <donofrio> well if I could get sudoers to be "service cron" that would be great.....any thoughts?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:53] <ducasse> Promille: btw, remove the headers as well - they're not in /boot, but take up space
[12:54] <venzen> acresearch: openshot is functional. its in the repos, ymmv, try compiling from github if the repo version doesn't play well with your hardware
[12:55] <acresearch> venzen: ok
[12:55] <Promille> ducasse: Will do.
[13:00] <blacknred0> i am planning to use a sd card between win and ubuntu and exfat is way too slow, should i use ntfs?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> blacknred0, please explain "sd card between win and ubuntu" ?
[13:06] <blacknred0> BluesKaj: i just want to be able to read and write to the sd between those OSs
[13:06] <blacknred0> so, i can take it out from ubuntu and plug it in win and be able to use it
[13:07] <unholymachine> format it in fat32
[13:07] <BluesKaj> yup fat32 is bst
[13:07] <blacknred0> unholymachine: isn't fat as slow as exfat?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> best
[13:08] <ducasse> limited to max 4gb files, though
[13:08] <unholymachine> if you want to use ntfs you need to install ntfs-3g on your linux/ubuntu system
[13:08] <blacknred0> yep, i get that
[13:08] <unholymachine> if it's not installed already
[13:09] <ducasse> it's installed by default
[13:09] <BluesKaj> thallada1, ntfs-3g is default on ubuntu
[13:09] <blacknred0> would i be better off just doing ext4 and then using a third part to access the ext4 sd card?
[13:09] <blacknred0> i can see myself mainly in ubuntu
[13:09] <BluesKaj> oops thinnk
[13:09] <unholymachine> Linux Reader is free software for Windows that will allow you to "read" the ext4 partition
[13:10] <unholymachine> i'm unaware of other software that will allow you to do this but i'm sure there are others
[13:10] <BluesKaj> bla use a usb , it's much better for reading and writing ...sd cards aren't suited for staorage
[13:10] <BluesKaj> blacknred0,^
[13:10] <blacknred0> ok, thanks guys
[13:10] <blacknred0> BluesKaj: got you
[13:11] <unholymachine> honestly, i think the actual speed of the sd card is negligible when it comes to what format you use on it
[13:11] <unholymachine> it's really up to the actual physical read/write speeds of the device
[13:11] <unholymachine> that's where the real noticeable speeds show
[13:13] <unholymachine> http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/storage/1404380/how-to-choose-an-sd-card-class-and-speed-ratings-explained-and-pick-the-best-microsd here's an article explaining read/write speeds of sd cards
[13:13] <unholymachine> this is what you should be paying attention to more so than what file system type you format the sd card to
[13:14] <unholymachine> https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/speed_class/ this article has a nicer chart
[13:16] <blacknred0> unholymachine: thanks! i think i got the 90 mb/sec will have to validate once i'm done with my backup :)
[13:24] <unholymachine> yw, np
[14:42] <slyrobot> Anyone on KDE ? I was facing that login-sessions error. Anyone knows how to solve it ?
[14:59] <hosas> can someone help me look at this error I'm using anaconda and trying to install openCV but having this error when sourcing .bashrc  https://pastebin.com/Wk90SKhY
[15:01] <hosas> I'm following this  method: http://www.pyimagesearch.com/2016/10/24/ubuntu-16-04-how-to-install-opencv/  got that error at setting of environment
[15:01] <hosas> thanks
[15:07] <nacc> hosas: so ... you're not following their tutorial? it doesn't mention anaconda at all
[15:16] <loorke> Hey, guys. How can I solve these broken dependences? https://imgur.com/a/CwCSc
[15:17] <loorke> Sorry, forgot about your paste service: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25521383/
[15:24] <brainwash> loorke: try to uninstall fonts-wine
[15:24] <nacc> loorke: talk to the ppa owner about making broken packages
[15:35] <loorke> brainwash: I can't: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25521470/
[15:36] <nacc> loorke: first remove wine-rt and it's dependencies
[15:36] <nacc> loorke: then remove fonts-wine
[15:36] <nacc> loorke: then reinstall wine-rt
[15:36] <nacc> loorke: or, as i said, complain to the ppa owner, it's not an ubuntu issue
[15:41] <ioria> loorke, you might try a 'sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/pkg.deb ' but not optimistic about the outcome ? what is btw, kxstudio ?
[15:58] <loorke> ioria: Yeah, kxsstudio
[15:59] <loorke> Looks like I fixed it all using only dpkg -r fonts-wine
[16:00] <lookcrabs> has anyone used iptables and ipset together? Is there a proper way to match against a list of sets?
[16:01] <loorke> But I still have my original problem which not relate to this channel
[16:04] <lookcrabs> I am currently using ```-A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 8125 -m set --match-set graphiteclients src -j ACCEPT``` graphiteclients is a list of ipsets to match against. I guess this doesn't work?
[16:07] <loorke> Hey, guys, I fixed broken dependences, but I still have my original problem
[16:08] <pavlos> lookcrabs: maybe you might change the Append (-A) to Insert (-I) since rules are executed top bottom ... just a thought.
[16:09] <nacc> loorke: what is your original problem? it was a failure to install wine-rt?
[16:10] <loorke> nacc: I'm sorry, I texted the wrong channel
[16:24] <gde33> software center not really loading anything?
[16:24] <gde33> (Ubuntu Software)
[16:26] <gde33> cli works just fine
[16:26] <nacc> gde33: ubuntu software is deprecated in favor of gnome software
[16:27] <gde33> nacc: wasn't it renamed?
[16:27] <Adnol> yayo
[16:28] <nacc> gde33: they are unrelated software, afaik (they don't look anything alike) -- perhaps i'm confusing what you are referring to though.
[16:31] <gde33> whole system grinding to a halt now, will try later
[17:01] <multifractal> My Dell XPS13 9365 has Win10 and Ubuntu. After closing the lid in Ubuntu, it is unable to resume from suspended state. After many cycles of holding down the On/Off switch + Fn key, the Dell diagnostics say that the hard drive is not detected.
[17:09] <Dbugger> Hello everyone
[17:09] <Dbugger> Does anyone know how can I see the APple keynote? I cant seem to see the webpage :/
[17:09] <Dbugger> https://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2017/
[17:17] <sahsanu> Dbugger: Requirements: Live streaming uses Apple’s HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) technology. HLS requires an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with Safari on iOS 9.0 or later, a Mac with Safari on macOS v10.11 or later, or a PC with Microsoft Edge on Windows 10. Streaming via Apple TV requires an Apple TV (2nd or 3rd generation) with software 6.2 or later or an Apple TV (4th generation).
[17:17] <ioria> Dbugger, type apple keynote live in youtube
[17:18] <Dbugger> ioria, I did, but it has quite a crappy quality, since it is people live streaming their desktops
[17:18] <Dbugger> sahsanu, are you telling me it is not possible?
[17:18] <sahsanu> seems so
[17:18] <ioria> Dbugger, is perfect for me ... mmm
[17:19] <Dbugger> ioria, what browser are you using?
[17:20] <ioria> firefox
[17:20] <Dbugger> Weird, it does not work for me...
[17:20] <Dbugger> I wonder if it has to do with location..
[17:20] <ioria> i don't think so
[17:20] <Dbugger> ioria, can you send me a link?
[17:20] <Dbugger> To make sure we are watching the same
[17:20] <ioria> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt2OHQh0HoQ
[17:21] <Dbugger> Oh ok!
[17:21] <Dbugger> I had the wrong link :)
[17:21] <Dbugger> Thanks a lot, mate
[17:21] <ioria> lol
[17:21] <ioria> no problem
[17:21] <Dbugger> it has some weird heading on top
[17:21] <Dbugger> but they dont bother
[17:21] <C_minus> My Dell XPS13 9365 has Win10 and Ubuntu. After closing the lid in Ubuntu, it is unable to resume from suspended state. After many cycles of holding down the On/Off switch + Fn key, the Dell diagnostics say that the hard drive is not detected.
[17:22] <Dbugger> oh well, it is not issue free... :)
[17:22] <Dbugger> I might have to switch to Windows to see it :/
[17:22] <Dbugger> shame
[17:23] <C_minus> After starting and quitting the Dell diagnostics, I am able to boot into Win10/Ubuntu as normal.
[17:24] <C_minus> So in effect it seems that shutting the lid makes the laptop forget that it has a hard drive inside.
[17:24] <brainwash> C_minus: I would test with a newer kernel
[17:25] <C_minus> brainwash: Is that `sudo apt-get upgrade` or something?
[17:26] <brainwash> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[17:26] <C_minus> Oh a-ha! It sounds mighty similar to this problem on the same laptop https://askubuntu.com/questions/875024/dell-xps-13-9365-2-in-1-wont-resume-after-suspend-ubuntu-16-04
[17:27] <brainwash> wow
[17:27] <brainwash> you could have googled that before asking here :P
[17:29] <C_minus> Sorry I just found this problem very alarming! Can anyone comment as to a root cause, or whether the proposed solution is a good idea? I've blindly followed askubuntu answers involving editing the grub config and ended up unable to boot..
[17:39] <acresearch> people someone here advised of a good video editing software for ubuntu, i forgot what it was, what is a good video editing software?
[17:40] <C_minus> Still having problems. https://askubuntu.com/questions/875024/dell-xps-13-9365-2-in-1-wont-resume-after-suspend-ubuntu-16-04 I tried the fix suggested here but to no avail.
[17:40] <C_minus> Still need to run through Dell pre-boot diagnostic checks after every suspend, being told that there's no hard drive installed, before I can boot again.
[17:42] <C_minus> It's probably worth mentioning that I've recently overcome an annoying issue of the laptop not detecting the hard drive in AHCI mode (having been shipped to me in RAID mode). Now I am successfully dual booting Win10 and Ubuntu, but I'm getting this weird suspend/resume problem where it forgets its own hard drive.
[17:46] <ducasse> acresearch: first hit from a web search - https://itsfoss.com/best-video-editing-software-linux/
[17:48] <lookcrabs> @pavlos, Indeed. That is supposed to be near the bottom of the list and followed by my logndrop jump. I am more concerned with it not matching the ipset members.
[17:55] <KeyboardNotFound> I have two WiFi cards and when I connect them to same wifi network after reboot Network Manager doesn't stop asking me for a password and no one of the cards connect to the router. Is there any way to solve this?
[17:58] <KeyboardNotFound> I have two WiFi cards and when I connect them to same wifi network after reboot Network Manager doesn't stop asking me for a password and no one of the cards connect to the router. Is there any way to solve this?
[18:13] <SkyWay> i have a device (SoC rock64) connected to wifi. i wish to use eth0 on it, to connect a raspberry pi to
[18:13] <SkyWay> i've read it's about iptables..
[18:13] <SkyWay> could someone help me set up ?
[18:15] <oerheks> SkyWay, and what is running on that, ubuntu arm ?
[18:15] <SkyWay> yes
[18:15] <SkyWay> 16.04
[18:16] <oerheks> so it is just ICS, internet connection sharing, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[18:17] <oerheks> not sure it still uses Eth0 Eth1 and such, we use a new interface naming..
[18:17] <oerheks> anyway, networkmanager could do this easily too
[18:17] <SkyWay> nice :) how ?
[18:18] <oerheks> see that url ?
[18:18] <SkyWay> ok, i'll check it out .. thanks!
[18:19] <SkyWay> i'll get back .. if i need help
[18:22] <SkyWay> there's some GUI ... i need cli :)
[18:22] <SkyWay> running arm things headless
[18:32] <C_minus> My laptop freezes on a black screen when trying to resume from suspend. Even on/off switch doesn't respond predictably - needs to be held down for several seconds several times, and fn key needs to be held down to trigger preboot diagnostics. Diagnostics says "no hard drive installed". Then power off and on, and can reboot normally again...
[18:33] <C_minus> Dell 9365 XPS13, Ubuntu 16.04
[18:34] <brainwash> C_minus: you again
[18:35] <C_minus> brainwash: unfortunately the problem persists.
[18:35] <brainwash> after testing and doing what?
[18:36] <brainwash> the askubuntu page mentioned a kernel boot parameter, and trying with a newer kernel version also
[18:36] <brainwash> did you test these two options?
[18:36] <C_minus> after setting that parameter in grub config.
[18:36] <C_minus> i'm updating the kernel now...
[18:37] <TJ-> C_minus: sounds like a rather typical ACPI issue due to most BIOS/UEFI not fully supporting Linux OS. There is a workaround that often solves it by having Linux pretend to be a version of Windows that your particular PC's ACPI DSDT recognises
[18:38] <TJ-> C_minus: the solution is to identify a version of Windows the BIOS DSDT recognises, and then add an option to the Linux command line (via GRUB).
[18:39] <brainwash> C_minus has found this already https://askubuntu.com/questions/875024/dell-xps-13-9365-2-in-1-wont-resume-after-suspend-ubuntu-16-04
[18:41] <C_minus> TJ-: I haven't read of anyone saying the hard drive has stopped being recognized. But fair enough. This laptop happily runs Win10 for whatever that's worth?
[18:42] <TJ-> C_minus: it's a pretty easy workaround to apply. It goes like this: 1) identify all Windows versions the ACPI DSDT recognises. 2) identify the 'latest' (which should support the most features) 3) add to GRUB's Linux command-line "acpi_osi=Windows XXXX" 4) update-grub 5) reboot and test
[18:44] <TJ-> C_minus: so, #1: "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows"
[18:44] <TJ-> C_minus: Decide which is the most recent version, e.g. "Windows 2012"
[18:46] <C_minus> TJ- OK The latest would be "Windows 2015" for me, so I'll insert that... Is it in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX?
[18:46] <TJ-> C_minus: OK, so "sudo sed -i 's/\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)\("\)/\1 \\"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\\"\2/' /etc/default/grub "
[18:46] <TJ-> C_minus: Then "sudo update-grub"
[18:46] <TJ-> C_minus: Now reboot, then test
[18:48] <C_minus> TJ- thanks, I noticed it added a couple of extra quote marks and slashes like so: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\"" Should I change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=Windows 2015" ??
[18:48] <TJ-> No, that is required
[18:49] <TJ-> it ensures that the kernel command line has double-quotes around the space in the argument
[18:49] <TJ-> all the escaping for GRUB is so the kernel gets the " :D
[18:49] <C_minus> Ah ok thanks!
[18:50] <C_minus> TJ- Oh on that note, did I make this earlier change incorrectly also: `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="mem_sleep_default=s2idle"` Does that need escaped quotes?
[18:51] <TJ-> C_minus: no; it would only need quotes if there is spaces in the argument
[18:52] <C_minus> ok i sudo-updated grub, I'll reboot now...
[18:52] <TJ-> because space is the argument separator, so we have to quote around it
[18:57] <C_minus> TJ- Unfortunately the problem persists.
[18:58] <brainwash> C_minus: what is the output of "cat /proc/cmdline"?
[18:59] <C_minus> brainwash: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.8.0-36-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=1d237f78-76cb-4942-9768-7ea463316887 ro "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" mem_sleep_default=s2idle
[19:00] <TJ-> C_minus: it may be worth dropping that mem_sleep_default and try another test
[19:00] <brainwash> does "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" or acpi_osi="Windows 2015" make a difference?
[19:01] <C_minus> ok trying that...
[19:01] <brainwash> haven't seen the first variant anywhere yet
[19:02] <brainwash> also, kernel 4.8?
[19:08] <donofrio> how do I fix this "cron: can't open or create /var/run/crond.pid: Permission denied" I added services to sudoers list for my account, thoughts?
[19:10] <TJ-> brainwash: it doesn't matter where the double quotes are so long as the space is protected
[19:11] <TJ-> brainwash: the kernel will always 'move' them to the outside of the entire argument, where-ever they are put on the command-line itself
[19:30] <multifractal> TJ- I was here as C_minus before... still no luck with my suspend/resume problem... Also since last attempting a suspend/resume the BIOS somehow reset itself to RAID mode instead of AHCI.
[19:31] <multifractal> So both Windows and Ubuntu were inaccessible until I manually switched it back
[19:32] <TJ-> multifractal: that's annoying! Have you checked for motherboard firmware updates?
[19:32] <TJ-> multifractal: also, I'd try it with the latest kernel. if it would help I have a script that automates fetching and installing the Ubuntu-built mainline kernels
[19:32] <multifractal> TJ- I'm running the latest BIOS version (I updated that a couple of days ago).
[19:33] <multifractal> TJ- That would be helpful, I've been having trouble working out how exactly to upgrade the kernel to a more recent, but stable, version
[19:34] <TJ-> multifractal: grab it from here: https://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/wget_kernel_mainline.sh
[19:37] <TJ-> multifractal: I usually run it from a ~/Downloads/kernels/ directory; it will create sub-dirs for each version you ask it to fetch. by default it'll fetch the latest (possibly an RC. You can also tell it the precise version to fetch by looking at the index list it saves in "mainline-kernel.list"
[19:41] <multifractal> TJ- that didn't solve it either. The hard drive not installed error is something I kept seeing earlier this week when I was grappling with this problem https://askubuntu.com/questions/696413/ubuntu-installer-cant-find-any-disk-on-dell-xps-13-9350. And now seeing it reset itself to RAID mode... I'm wondering whether these are related.
[19:42] <multifractal> Could it somehow be resetting itself to RAID mode every time I close the lid? This does all seem to have the smell of low level hardware / BIOS problems.
[19:43] <TJ-> that sounds like the NVRAM/flash settings aren't being saved, or are being reset to defaults
[19:44] <multifractal> TJ- Dell won't be any help though because they offer absolutely no support if you mention linux.
[19:46] <multifractal> TJ- I should mention that not all the settings were reverted to factory default: e.g. Secureboot was still disabled (but came enabled from the factory).
[19:46] <multifractal> Just the RAID/AHCI thing (as far as I could tell).
[19:50] <TJ-> multifractal: sounds like a bug in the config handling for sure
[19:51] <TJ-> it wouldn't surprise me. ACPI is responsible for the low-level configuration and power, and that's what you're invoking with suspend/resume
[19:51] <multifractal> TJ- is that an Ubuntu thing or a Dell thing?
[19:51] <TJ-> ACPI? it's a PC thing Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
[19:52] <TJ-> it operates via an embedded controller, the code is executed by the running kernel using the instructions in the DSDT
[19:53] <multifractal> TJ- come to think of it, it could just be the screen not lighting up - because the keyboard remains lit.
[19:53] <multifractal> oh but yeah the hard drive thing...
[19:53] <TJ-> can you get a remote SSH into it ?
[19:53] <multifractal> I'll try...
[19:58] <multifractal> TJ- OK I currently have an SSH into the offending laptop. What next?
[19:58] <TJ-> multifractal: is this before or after the suspend/resume attempt?
[19:58] <multifractal> TJ- before
[19:59] <multifractal> I was just wondering if there was anything I should start monitoring before ssuspending/shutting the lid
[20:00] <TJ-> OK. do "dmesg -w & sudp systemctl suspend"  then try to reconnect to it after a resume. (you may need to kill the current non-responsive SSH session by pressing <Return> then ~ then .
[20:00] <TJ-> oops, s/sudp/sudo/ !
[20:01] <multifractal> TJ- enter that on the client machine?
[20:02] <TJ-> multifractal: ssh to the target, then "dmseg -w & sudo systemctl suspend" - the "&" puts the 'dmesg -w" into the background so you can initiate the suspend
[20:03] <TJ-> multifractal: if the SSH hangs and doesn't reconnect when the system resumes then, on the SSH client, to regain control, press <Return> then ~ then . (that's the SSH interrupt sequence)
[20:04] <multifractal> TJ- ok so I sshed into the target machine from my good laptop, entered what you told me on the good laptop, and it printed some logs... Now I close the lid on the bad laptop?
[20:05] <TJ-> multifractal: Yes.
[20:05] <TJ-> multifractal: you should see the dmesg output showing messages about powering down and suspending
[20:06] <multifractal> TJ- OK it's hanging, here's the output https://pastebin.com/NpEBvXe0
[20:09] <TJ-> multifractal: I see some ACPI Errors there too
[20:10] <multifractal> (This is all much appreciated BTW)
[20:12] <TJ-> multifractal: one Question - It looks like you're doing the tests with the AC adapter disconnected. Have you tried the tests with it powered from mains? I've seen mayn devices that have weird bugs if its preferred power isn't being used.
[20:13] <TJ-> multifractal: When the PC resumed did SSH continue? If not, did you interrupt the SSH session, and try a fresh SSH connection?
[20:16] <multifractal> TJ- I've done this with and without the mains connected. The bad laptop didn't resume; I had to hold power off, and switch back on into the Dell preboot diagnostics program.
[20:16] <multifractal> (which is what I have to do every time)
[20:18] <TJ-> multifractal: and it resumes fine under Windows OS I assume?
[20:18] <mshadle> my ubuntu 16.04 server no longer is displaying anything on the console - i assume it might be missing some sort of framebuffer/driver/something. anyone have ideas on what to try?
[20:18] <TJ-> multifractal: do you know if there are Dell system-board drivers for Windows? It is very possible that Windows does something private to make it work
[20:18] <Toba> 16.04 has trouble with some ATI cards
[20:18] <Toba> at least it does with my desktop
[20:19] <Toba> (video driver issues)
[20:19] <mshadle> well this is detected: VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA G200e [Pilot] ServerEngines (SEP1) (rev 05)
[20:19] <TJ-> multifractal: oh and one other simple thing you can try. Go back to the list of supported Windows versions and try some of the others, working most-recent to oldest. I've known several systems where that has fixed issues
[20:21] <Bashing-om> mshadle: What shows ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-mga ' for the state of the driver ?
[20:22] <mshadle> well i have no xserver packages installed, it's supposed to be a headless server with just basic text console
[20:23] <mshadle> i will install that though and see.
[20:23] <multifractal> TJ- Yes it resumes fine under Win10. Do you recommend I download ALL of these drivers? http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/product-support/product/xps-13-9365-2-in-1-laptop/drivers
[20:24] <mshadle> Bashing-om: so i just installed that now, do i need to reboot for it to take affect?
[20:24] <mshadle> i have a lot of kernel modules showing under lsmod
[20:24] <mshadle> including drm and mga
[20:24] <Bashing-om> mshadle: 1st see what the package is  - as you thoink maub of no help ' apt show xserver-xorg-video-mga ' .
[20:26] <mshadle> it sounds like the right package
[20:26] <TJ-> multifractal: No, that's all for Windows and that is working fine. I just wonderd if one of those might be patching the handling of the ACPI sub-system to work-around a bug - because Linux knows nothing about such bugs it can fail where Windows doesn't, making Linux look bad
[20:28] <Bitcoiner69> W: http://ppa.launchpad.net/teward/swig3.0/ubuntu/dists/trusty/InRelease: Signature by key BC87658904397A42060A979C4A3EF61EE616D378 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[20:28] <Bitcoiner69> how fix?
[20:29] <multifractal> TJ- I just got this laptop from work. And it's proving to be more of a ballache than a helpful tool. Should I give it back and ask for something different? Or is this the type of thing that is likely to be solved by some update in the near future? As long as I don't close the laptop lid in Ubuntu it all functions pretty well...
[20:30] <multifractal> LMAO I remember asking in this room what would be a good 2-in-1 that supports Ubuntu, and somebody suggested the XPS13! Instead of alleviating my back pain, I'm now carrying 2 laptops back and forth. :(
[20:32] <TJ-> multifractal: did you try the latest mainline kernel yet, in combination with the acpi_osi= ... ?
[20:33] <TJ-> multifractal: I generally swear by Dells; I've got 6 Dell laptops here
[20:33]  * [n0mad] has a dell and the link posted way earlier here about not being able to resume and changing a line in grub solved me not being able to resume
[20:34] <multifractal> TJ- yes I ran your script to update the kernel. I haven't tried other Windows versions yet though, I'm feeling a bit exhausted from this power-off, bios diagnostics, reboot, repeat routine.
[20:35] <multifractal> In fairness my other Dell (M3800) has been pretty awesome, it's just a bit big and heavy.
[20:37] <multifractal> Although that was specifically sold as an Ubuntu-ready machine from Dell themselves (and even that had a lot of wifi issues when i first got it...)
[20:37] <Bitcoiner69> how fix please
[20:38] <multifractal> n0mad: I've tried a whole bunch of stuff in the grub config, I welcome any suggestions (that I haven't already tried)
[20:38] <TJ-> multifractal: if they claim Ubuntu-ready, which Ubuntu release do they support on it? There was a time when they were sticking with 14.04 and not later. Not looked recently so not sure if they're moved onto 16.04
[20:39] <multifractal> TJ- I got that one a couple of years ago, it came with 14.04. Not sure what they're selling atm.
[20:41] <TJ-> multifractal: yes, i know there were some 14.04 specific patches which they weren't carrying forward to newer releases, making them perform worse than 14.04
[20:43] <multifractal> TJ- In your opinion, should I try to live with this irritating error? Maybe wait it out until some magical update solves everything? Or should I dump this laptop and ask work for something else?
[20:46] <TJ-> multifractal: I'd keep trying with the latest kernels from mainline. Fixes come through pretty rapidly usually. if you do that and the problem persists its worth reporting the bug on the linux kernel bugzilla against the ACPI module
[20:46] <multifractal> OK thanks, I really appreciate all the time you've taken to helping with this.
[20:48] <Bitcoiner69> https://pastebin.com/raw/6Nrk6WSS
[20:48] <Bitcoiner69> any fix ples
[20:48] <ssarah> hei how do i make a bootable usb with ubuntu in it, using ubuntu?
[20:49] <multifractal> ssarah: Use a program called Unetbootin.
[20:49] <kermyt> dd if==<inputfile> of=<output_device>
[20:49] <ssarah> i had probs with that one before. wasn't there one that was integrated in ubuntu? live something creator?
[20:50] <multifractal> startup disk creator?
[20:52] <Bashing-om> Bitcoiner69: ' sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver  keyserver.ubuntu.com D46F45428842CE5E ' If that works out . repeat for the other missing keys .
[21:12] <gunix> what differences are there between linux kernel and ubuntu kernel? i know ubuntu does some modifications to it
[21:20] <TJ-> gunix: the kernel git repos show the Ubuntu SAUCE on top, plus backports
[21:22] <TJ-> gunix: see http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-artful.git/
[21:24] <gunix> TJ-: what is ubuntu SAUCE ?
[21:25] <gunix> TJ-: i find nothing about sauce in that git. am i looking wrong?
[21:26] <TJ-> gunix: for Ubuntu specific patches the commit messages are usually prefixed "SAUCE:" to make it easy to identify
[21:27] <TJ-> gunix: here's an example: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-artful.git/commit/?h=master-next&id=4162b54326dbd9327f2dfaf97a41a7fcc9cd507e
[21:28] <gunix> TJ-: i also found them. thank you!
[21:45] <donofrio> anyone here used wabash before?
[21:49] <oerheks> donofrio, as it is something with windows bash, ask in #ubuntu-on-windows
[21:50] <oerheks> !ubuwin
[21:56] <plut0> I'm on ubuntu 16.04 server, /run is out of space but i can't figure out what is consuming it. can someone help?
[21:56] <demophobia> Is there a difference between task bar web browser and terminal firefox? i keep being asked to set firefox as my default browser
[21:57] <oerheks> terminal firefox?? never heard of that
[21:58] <demophobia> oerheks: for example, in LXTerminal, firefox ewtn.com &
[21:58] <oerheks> oh, that is just starting firefox gui from terminal ..
[21:58] <demophobia> right
[21:58] <oerheks> There should be no difference, same firefox is called
[22:00] <demophobia> it appears after every shutdown and startup firefox asks again to be set as default
[22:00] <virmaha_> Hello. I am trying to run a command like /home/mybinary --url=http://www.mysite.com/?param=value&param2=value
[22:00] <virmaha_> however, ps aux | grep mybinary shows  /home/mybinary --url=http://www.mysite.com/?param=value
[22:01] <virmaha_> jobs command doesn't show anything..so what's going on here? can anyone shed a light?
[22:01] <oerheks> demophobia, on ubuntu/unity, see systemsettings > details > standard applications # to see if firefox *is* default, or check settings of any other browser installed
[22:01] <oerheks> some claim the standard position after restart
[22:03] <glitsj16> virmaha_: quote the URL, ps might regard the '&' as a shell command
[22:03] <virmaha_> glitsj16: ah okay. that worked:)
[22:04] <glitsj16> virmaha_: yeah, common issue with non-quoted URL's
[22:05] <demophobia> oerheks: :( struggling to find how to do that in lubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=set+default+applications&titlesearch=Titles
[22:07] <lucido-cl> HI, Iḿy root filsystem is corrupted every time I shut down and I end up in the maintenance consone on boot having to do fsck. I already changed my hdd to anew one, but it makes no difference. HAs anyone experienced this before?
[22:07] <oerheks> demophobia, on Lubuntu it is: Preferences -> Preferred Applications for LCsessions
[22:07] <TJ-> demophobia: is it possible something else is taking over the default? I know FF has an option to stop it asking
[22:08] <demophobia> ah: Default Applications for LXSession it says
[22:08] <oerheks> TJ- +1 i mentioned other browsers too, after restart they claim the standard too/back
[22:08] <demophobia> TJ-: thing is even if i uncheck the option to ask, it still asks me again the next time
[22:08] <demophobia> so something's getting reset
[22:09] <demophobia> "x-www-browser" is set as Webbrowser
[22:09] <TJ-> demophobia: that sounds like FF is getting killed rather than exiting gracefully. Do you close FF yourself before log-out/shutdown?
[22:09] <demophobia> TJ-: last time i alt+f4 then 'shutdown now' afterward i think
[22:10] <demophobia> also another problem: "Update lxsession database" message window is open indefinitely when I open that default applications window
[22:10] <demophobia> "The database is updating, please wait", but it apparently will never finish ...
[22:10] <TJ-> demophobia: the only thing I can think to do is use the inotify tools (iwatch) to monitor the user's settings file under  ~/.config/ to find out who/what/when the default is being changed.
[22:11] <demophobia> or else it's finished (because the window showing the apps is open) but some process intended to close that message window failed to execute
[22:11] <KeyboardNotFound> Is encrypting root partition after installation possible? Any ways how to start ?
[22:11] <glitsj16> demophobia: what does "xdg-mime query default x-scheme-handler/http" regard as default? try .. xdg-mime default /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop x-scheme-handler/http" and the same for https
[22:11] <TJ-> demophobia: sounds like there may be some corruption to the settings
[22:11] <TJ-> demophobia: create a new user, log-in to it, see if the problem  persists in that profile
[22:11] <TJ-> demophobia: that way you can at least isolate if this is per-user, or system-wide
[22:15] <demophobia> glitsj16: result of first command is: lxde-x-www-browser.desktop
[22:16] <glitsj16> demophobia: check that file to see what the Exec= line is referencing, or set it directly to firefox.desktop manually with the second command^
[22:17] <glitsj16> demophobia: probably lxde-x-www-browser.desktop is the file behind whatever GUI lxde offers to set default browser, but that's just a guess..
[22:17] <demophobia> result of trying glitsj16's xdg-mime default command was 'cannot touch' - https://pastebin.com/1KTY0H2t
[22:19] <demophobia> okay, i've pinpointed a problem:
[22:20] <demophobia> when i start firefox from terminal, it asks me to set it as default, and when i do xdg-mime query default x-scheme-handler/http returns "firefox.desktop". However, when I click the button lubuntu has in the taskbar called 'Web Browser', same thing but now it returns "lxde-x-www-browser.desktop"
[22:20] <glitsj16> demophobia: sudo xdg-mime --mode system default /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop x-scheme-handler/http
[22:20] <demophobia> so somehow it's like this taskbar tool to start firefox is being regarded in the settings as different from firefox
[22:20] <glitsj16> see if that changes things
[22:21] <virmaha_> thanks glitsj16
[22:21] <glitsj16> virmaha_: all good? you're welcome
[22:21] <virmaha_> yes glitsj16 . All working fine now :D
[22:22] <glitsj16> :)
[22:23] <demophobia> glitsj16: that gives "xdg-mime: unknown command '--mode'". looking at --help and man, it's not clear to me why you've put "--mode system" in the command
[22:23] <demophobia> glitsj16: do i need to add 'install' before '--mode'?
[22:24] <glitsj16> demophobia: I probably put that param in the wrong place then.. it is the syntax 'man xdg-mime' mentions for setting the system-wide defaults
[22:26] <glitsj16> demophobia: either that or create ~/.local/share/applications if it doesn't exist, copy a firefox.desktop file in there and use xdg-mime default "$HOME"/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop x-scheme-handler/http
[22:27] <glitsj16> demophobia: if that works you need to do the same using https at the end instead of http, so you have firefox as default for both protocols
[22:45] <Hanumaan> is it possible to clone running root (/) parition to another parition in different disk?
[22:50] <genii> Not if mounting it read-only until the operation is finished will be a problem
[23:15] <frostschutz> Hanumaan, if you're happy with cp or rsync, i.e. a file based copy, then yes
[23:15] <frostschutz> or if it's LVM, snapshots work too
[23:28] <akik> ikonia: i read more about the cloud-init stuff. they write that it's bad to enter a password hash into the cloud-config but then say nothing about NOPASSWD:
[23:29] <akik> http://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/examples.html
[23:36] <oerheks> hash not salted, yes
[23:36] <oerheks> read on about John the Ripper etc
[23:41] <oerheks> attention BlueTooth users, important updates available for "blueborn" vulnerability https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3413-1/
[23:57] <gebbione> hi folks, i think i am locked out from my server as i have edited /etc/sudoers file and it worked out as getting corrupt
[23:57] <gebbione> also i dont have pkexec  installed
[23:57] <gebbione> so i cannot edit it with pkexec visudo
[23:58] <gebbione> any other workaround?