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[02:23] <tgBot10> <Tardis96 Desenvolvedor> Hello
[02:26] <tgBot10> <Tardis96 Desenvolvedor> Someone have a port of ubuntu phone for motorola harpia (g4 play) ? … Thanks … (Sorry my bad english, i AM brazilian)
 Where can I find the image file for the fairphone boot screen? Just created a basic mockup for the N5.
 @nfsprodriver, I use Notes connected to Evernote with no issues, even offline
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 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/LFZAs1hE/file_505.jpg
 Anyone else getting this? Try again does nothing and a reboot didn't help. How can I update? OPO on devel channel.
 @TomasOqvist, works for you indicator torch ?
 @Krakakanok, No, I tried it out but haven't bothered to remove it yet.
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 @TomasOqvist, do you have UT Tweak installed? you could try to clear the cahe of the settings app. it will clear the update list, and any updates that got stuck. then you can try again.
 perhaps someone knows a command to more precisely remove just the download file and leave the rest of the chache
 there was discussion about this a while ago. IMHO the 'try again' button should clear cached download files first but somehow this one doesnt?
 @popeydc, did they release kernel source code?
 And is there a device tree already?
 no idea
 it was somewhat of a joke
 @NotKit, Well yas you know kernel source code is released quite often due to GPL requirements. But the remaining part, vendor´s device tree, is only licensed with Apache license, and they don´t need to release it. However we need the device tree to make a successful port ;)
 device tree can be made
 @NotKit, how
 with blobs from stock firmware
 @Flohack, by basing on existing LineageOS ports for devices with similar SoCs (MTK6737 in this case)
 OK, i think you can generate a basic device tree from an extracted Boot.img and the vendor blobs
 but it's a problem to get Chinese vendors to comply with GPL requirements and release kernel sources
 The phone is probably to new to find something useful on Google or duckduckgo already....
 @NotKit, You are talking about vendor tree. This is not enough to build. Otherwise there would me much more ported phones, also LineageOS has the same issue ;)
 @YougoChats, UT Tweaks and clear cache did the trick! Thanks
 @NotKit, Look at this, how to do a successful build without the sources in this: https://github.com/Flohack74/android_device_samsung_smdk4412-common
 @Flohack I meant that device tree can be recreated based on similar devices
 that's how LineageOS porting is done for most devices anyway
 @NotKit, Hmm I think this work is futile. Similar does not mean same, and then we end with half-ported devices where we have issues with bluetooth, wifi, camera. And then it takes months and months to get it running. We should define "our" requirements for a hardware that is more easily portable. It does not make sense to spend time with Mediatek for example. Thats what I concluded form the last months of watching whats going on.
 but it's way more feasible compared when there is kernel source code compared to trying to make compatible kernel
 Is there an official homepage for this device exept kickstarter? I can't find any ressources about this, and no kernel source.
 But it's mediatek, right? Then they will maybe never release the kernel source
 it's not about MediaTek, but up to vendor
 Sometimes it seems like the vendors don't even get the full kernel source from mediatek
 @Flohack whats about this phone i'm plan to port it as soon as possible , Moto G 5 (2017) … http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g5-8454.php
 @NotKit, It is about Mediatek. I talked with BQ, they had to sign an NDA agreement, and are not allowed to give us the source tree for their devices.
 source tree or kernel source code?
 @Walid, With Qualcomm it sohuld be much easier
 Probably source tree. Mediatek has to release "parts of the kernel that are GPLed" which means that you get a kernel source probably which is not compilable 😆
 In my opinion: Just forget Mediatek. Too much effort, we need to see that we have not so many resources for that
 But be my guest and try to port one. For example, you could reverse-engineer one of the BQ phones. Lets see how far you come
 Also BQ changed to Qualcomm now, they told me
 For some reasons, probably they were not happy with MEdiatek
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/6T9zvyKV/file_506.mp4
 Has anyone tried building e.g. this Mediatek kernel from BQ? https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E4.5/tree/aquaris-E4.5-ubuntu-master/kernel
 @JBBgameich, No but it is suspicious already. Look into this folder: https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E4.5/tree/aquaris-E4.5-ubuntu-master/kernel/mediatek - you will see symbolic links going outside of the current folder to additional directories labelled mediatek
 which are not on GH
 https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E4.5/tree/aquaris-E4.5/mediatek/kernel
 this kernel missing apparmor patch
 The directory exists but somehow github displays the links wrong ... I'll clone and test-build this maybe
 @JBBgameich, To make bluetooth work apply this patch from flo device … https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/wily/+ref/flo
 and for apparmor just replace apparmor folder from any supperted ubports kernel
 @JBBgameich i found this https://github.com/Pablito2020/android_kernel_bq_krillin
 it seams he already ported it to lineage 14.1
 Then one could start porting to Halium based on this to make the currently closed part from canonical also open source and more easy to fix
 Hello, I apologize for disturbing you, but I use your channel to convey an important message, the French state tells us that St martin all go well since the passage of Hurricane IRMA, has become a civil war ...
 https://youtu.be/ybOp3ylrNIg
 excuse me
 ...
 President french SHITTTTTTT
 @Flohack, So is there a chance that Qualcomm will allow sharing kernel for their SoC?
 Hello, some time ago there was a port to oneplus x. I would like to try it, but it will not be compiled, oneplus x has lineageos 14.1. Forgive my English I use a translator
 @thepeter, The qualcomm kernels are often released as open-source. You can always find a generic one for your SoC on the caf git server
[12:41] <AndreasLa> Kopfhörerstecker Klinke 3,5 mm glaub ich: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinkenstecker
[12:42] <AndreasLa> sorry, false thread :-)
 Lol
[12:50] <tgBot10> <Tardis96 Desenvolvedor> Someone gives me a guide to how port ubuntu phone to my device?  … I want contribute
 great, we can always use help! Porting documentation can be found at halium.org
[12:53] <tgBot10> <Tardis96 Desenvolvedor> Thanks
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 @ dan chapman, I installed dekko2 and when I configure the servers I do not enter.I put the same thing as in dekko, but it does not go.call the correct configuration?
 It is a nexus 5
[14:10] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> Did you install the first version or the updated one, what account do you use
 The latest version
 Imap- smtp
[14:15] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> and gmail or ...
[14:18] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> I had also with N5 problems but now it works fine, I had to uninstall and clean with the tweak tool and try again but first I had to allow at google Dekko 2
 Correo0
 Correo,no gmail
[14:21] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> Moment
[14:24] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject
[14:25] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> I cannot find any service correo, try with git lab please
[14:27] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> I just can see the default configuration on Dekko and Dekko 2 are for my gmail different
[14:28] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> Try also after fulfilling server name always confirm with Enter key
[14:31] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> Please send Dan Logwiever file for more details, there is an app for it
 @shinyhairsmylifeambition, this is the best thing since this group started right here.  This is a turning point for UBports.  This GIF. Right here.
 the bottom hamster is Halium.  The top one - UBports! onwards!!
 at some point both are reunited : https://media.giphy.com/media/yaUG0KDAcIcWA/giphy.gif
[15:42] <tgBot10> Natanael was added by: Natanael
 @Natanael, Hi
[15:45] <tgBot10> <Tardis96 Desenvolvedor> Welcome/ Bem vindo
 I wonder, besides BQ where @Flohack is int touch with, are we talking to vendors of other ported devices?
 @thepeter, Fairphone is perhaps the obvious. I cannot imagine HTC responding 😂
[16:06] <tgBot10> <Andre Büsgen> @TomasOqvist, How is devel on opo working for you?
 what about OnePlus? dhave we any "embassador" for them?
 @thepeter, Yes another possibility. I don't think there is any contact. Of course any vendor will have their own agenda and impose requirements. That could stifle development so it is a difficult balance?
 @Ern_st, This is poetry to wayne out there.  … so many precious rodent analogies are rushing to my empty mind....
[17:11] <tgBot10> <Andre Büsgen> i think i found out why some people can't sync their nextcloud with ubports
[17:11] <tgBot10> <Andre Büsgen> as it seems ubports doesn't trust Lets Encrypt Certificates
[17:15] <tgBot10> <Andre Büsgen> I'm pretty sure it's an certificate issue
 @Andre Büsgen, that's a super interesting theory!  i use nextcloud with letsencrypt successfully elsewhere for sure...
[17:18] <tgBot10> <Andre Büsgen> i tried the dav.sh scrypt from the wiki and in it's log it says that my cert is not trusted. It's valid and issued from letsencrypt
 I've never had an issue with their certificates. I use them on all my servers
[17:26] <tgBot10> <Andre Büsgen> i can open the site in the browser app eithout problems
[17:26] <tgBot10> <Andre Büsgen> without
[17:27] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> Anyone an idea? My wife has several issues with her e4.5 since today. Main issue is that it doesn't connect reliably to the operator. And there is no network icon displayed anymore. Neither phone indicator nor wlan indicator are displayed or accessible. Also not in system settings. Already rebooted several times and completely shut down. No effect. Any hints?
 did she perform an update? what version is she on?
[17:27] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> Wlan is connected by the way.
[17:27] <tgBot10> <Andre Büsgen> how do you sync your contacts?
[17:27] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> Ubports stable
 @kz6fittycent, same
[17:29] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> @Stefan Kalb, R1
[17:29] <tgBot10> <Andre Büsgen> anyone using sync with an opo?
[17:30] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/W0o3spWJ/file_508.jpg
 @neothethird do you know who is working on the Hybris patching from uor side?
 Has anybody understand the "android boot support from snapd" thing meaning? Could it be something useful for the future ubport ?
[17:56] <tgBot10> beskserg was added by: beskserg
 @beskserg, welcome
[18:05] <tgBot10> <Andre Büsgen> i could get it to work. it was indeed an cert issue but not ubports fault ^^
[18:05] <tgBot10> <Andre Büsgen> i had a wrong symlink pointing to the wrong cert. my bad
 @Andre Büsgen, Interesting theory...
[18:40] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> Can anyone tell me in which folder the messaging db is stored
[19:21] <tgBot10> <Chris B> @Stefan Kalb, from my notes it should be ~/.local/share/history-service/history.sqlite
[19:22] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> history service, exactly. Many thanks!
[19:26] <tgBot10> <Chris B> @Stefan Kalb, you're welcome ;)
 @thepeter, We will talk them through one by one probably. Fairphone is easy game as we have a good relationship with them. Meizu will be a challenge, indeed ;)
 @Flohack, And what about oneplus? Will it be possible?
 @thepeter, Was the oneplus an official device someday? I think this is just our port right?
 @Flohack, Yep just our port, but do thry know we are providing their device alternative OS? :)
 I dont think they know. They are an asian vendor, they dont care much about Europe ^^
 And its hard to talk with them. I was in China sometimes, and they are still just looking for personal benefits. We cant offer them any business model that would make sense for them.
 if they would provide us sources and by that they will have chance to have wider bussiness joining in opensource community, but yeah, no tough promisses from our side, that's true
 So is it better to leave them uninformed (would they do something not nice if the knew we are messing with their HW)?
 Do you know how many millions are happy with Android in Asia? The figures are against us. But yeah we can try. Or we will try. But I see better chances with companies that are based in Europe. Its a mentality thing.
 Alright :) I understand mentality differencies very well :) just haven't been in contact with chinese one yet, that't why I've asked :)
 I think advocating privacy in China is a fast route to prison? More than just mindset
[20:12] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> @Stefan Kalb, Reflashed the device with wipe. Works again 😊
 @Stefan Kalb, Thats really strange, never heard smth like this. But ok good to hear ;)
 @Stereofont, Good point, that's why we should point out more opend-nes of sources to everyone :)
 @Stereofont, No, many of them use some VPN services. What Beijing tells us and what the ordinary ppl do is 2 different things ;)
 Classic example is that prostituition is illegal in China and you can huge sentences to prison. But in reality in China there are girls *everywhere*
 (Sticker, 348x512) https://irc.ubports.com/pis1hagG/file_509.webp
 Hopefully Ubuntu phones will catch on there
[20:33] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> @Flohack, Yeah, I think it was something in .cache or .local. There were many relicts as I restored everything at the switch from canonical to ubports. This time I just imported SMS and contacts.
 Hi everyone :)
 Just got a Nexus 5, power switch was broken, opened it, power switch was already replaced, I juste messed up the mother board trying to rereplace it (I couldn't do anything, sniff). Now waiting for a broken one (but with functionnal motherboard, at least I hope).
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 Hi guys, I have an BQ Aquaris E5 flashed with Ubports stable, I would like to pass it to devel channel without formatting, anybody know if it's possible ?
 hi
 @Mickael_boulet, yes you can use the instruction on our webpage without the —bootstrap flag
 Hi Florian, Thanks for your quick response, I will check that!
 I just found my old n4. Gonna give it another go and see if it fixed itself.... Lol
 @Stereofont, yeah... probably. i can't stand the fact that someone who cares about privacy is branded a criminal with something to hide.
 @kz6fittycent, it probably hasn't.  everyone still tells me to 'not flash it if i need it to work' haha
 but if it DOES work!.... TELL ME!
 If so I'll message you from it
 i'm still running original ubuntu phone image on the N4 as my primary Device (Jolla Sailfish as second one)... Gotta say that it's such a shame Canonical gave up with developing further. It's the best OS i ever used on a phone and the Apps are just great (Terminal, Telegram, uNav, the whole UI ... everything is really well designed !) Thousand 👍 up for all you ubport devs !! gotta try your channel as soon as i get a N5 (don't want to risk to br
[21:31] <tgBot10> anything on my N4) and start to learn PyQT-QML to hopefully help anywhere in the bright bright future :)
 @wengahias, Agreed
 @wengahias, same.  i'm still running it too (cannon-nickels OS)
 i absolutely hate android now when I use it.
 and when I use an iphone (curse the moment) i feel like a man speaking after having his mouth frozen at the dentist)
 a man with UBports in his pocket is not at the mercy of a man with a pocketful of fruit
 @wayneoutthere, Meme please!
 i know. that was poetry when I typed it
 i wish i could high five myself
 but! let it be known i just came up with a killer new idea for the #audiocast
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/cYAOluKF/file_511.jpg
 hahaha
 ok, i'll make one
 :P
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Z07IhyO2/file_513.png
 @Flohack, Meme master
 (Photo, 500x621) https://irc.ubports.com/5pg70hNv/file_515.jpg
 there. another sales target missed
 @Flohack, haha
[21:54] <thrrgilag> lol such poetry, love it!
 @wayneoutthere, Another one!
[21:54] <thrrgilag> Particularly that last one @wayneoutthere
 neither
 sry wrong chat 😆