[06:07] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers!
[06:07] <jibel> bonjour oSoMoN
[06:13] <didrocks> good morning
[06:15] <oSoMoN> bonjour jibel, didrocks
[06:16] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[06:29] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:29] <seb128> salut les frenchies
[06:30] <didrocks> rebonjour seb128 ;)
[06:30] <seb128> re Didier :-)
[06:32] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[06:32]  * oSoMoN -> school
[06:48] <flexiondotorg> Morning France!
[07:34] <pitti> bonjour tout le monde !
[07:34] <pitti> didrocks: bonne anniversaire !
[07:34]  * pitti te donne une grande accolade
[07:48] <didrocks> merci pitti ! /me te donne une accolade en retour
[07:48] <didrocks> et bonjour :)
[07:51] <willcooke> morning all
[07:51] <willcooke> Happy birthday didrocks!
[07:54] <didrocks> thanks willcooke! Good morning :)
[08:03] <Laney> morning!
[08:05] <willcooke> Hi Laney
[08:07] <Laney> happy birthday didrocks
[08:07] <Laney> what have you got planned?
[08:07] <Laney> hey willcooke
[08:07] <Laney> you good?
[08:09] <willcooke> Kids are all ill, so up at 5:30 this morning#
[08:09] <willcooke> :((
[08:09] <willcooke> However, when I looked outside this morning I was pleased to see the fence is still there
[08:09] <willcooke> So not all bad
[08:10] <didrocks> thanks Laney, nothing fancy no, normal day for me :)
[08:10] <Laney> urghghgh
[08:10] <Laney> I opened the windows so that I could hear the storm, but it didn't wake me up
[08:10] <Laney> PATHETIC
[08:16]  * Laney sends didrocks an e-card
[08:16] <Laney> those were great
[08:17] <Laney> although opening an .exe attachment on an email from a sketch website to play a 'happy birthday' animation ...
[08:17] <Saviq> duflu: if you're still around, bug #1716861 seems to be the root cause for the mis-logins I reported
[08:17] <Laney> not sure I'd do that any more
[08:17] <Saviq> should try that on wayland, too
[08:20] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney
[08:20] <willcooke> morning seb128
[08:21] <didrocks> oh yeah, old good times
[08:23] <Laney> oh, I thought seb128 was off today
[08:24] <Laney> hey!!!
[08:27] <duflu> Saviq: Yes I saw the bug. Sounds fantastic
[08:30] <Saviq> duflu: seems it's Xorg-only after all, can't reproduce under Wayland
[08:35] <seb128> Laney, nop, I'm working today then off for the w.e, I pondered taking the week but I want to keep enough day for having a good block off in decembre
[08:36] <seb128> Laney, good work figuring that gdm fallback session bug
[08:50] <willcooke> desktoppers, we've officially been asked to help package the community wallpapers as nhaines hasn't had time to do it.  Any takers?
[08:50] <willcooke> I have the wallpapers
[08:51] <willcooke> community that is, still waiting on the mascot and offical wallpaper
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[09:00] <willcooke> koza, duflu seb128 - anything for the Bluetooth meeting today?
[09:00] <duflu> willcooke, not that I know of but logging in anyway
[09:00] <Laney> willcooke: put them on a bug pls, I can probably look later
[09:01] <willcooke> Laney, merci!
[09:01] <koza> willcooke, not that I know of except on some announcements - waiting there already
[09:01] <Laney> trying to get lgw01 scalingstack back online first
[09:01] <Laney> so the test queues get marginally less sad
[09:20] <seb128> willcooke, crap, I forgot about that meeting again :-/
[09:20] <seb128> I didn't have anything to mention there
[09:46] <willcooke> Laney, desktoppers - wallpapers: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/1716885
[10:10] <Laney> thx
[10:10] <Laney> should probably email ubuntu-docs if the wallpaper is going to miss the freeze :/
[10:31] <willcooke> Laney, I'm going to the office in an hour or so, I'll strong arm them and get the wallpaper uploaded today
[10:31] <willcooke> Laney, but yeah, I will email docs now anyway
[10:35] <willcooke> Laney, done
[10:36] <Laney> merci
[10:52] <jbicha> didrocks: is it ok if I merge glib 2.54 from Debian?
[12:07] <nabhash> hi , I am having troubles installing a graphics card on my ubuntu , any help ?
[12:10] <Gargoyle> nabhash, fill in some blanks, and someone might be able to assist. (Version of ubuntu, make of gfx card, what you have already tried, etc)
[12:12] <Gargoyle> nabhash, see here:- http://rurounijones.github.io/blog/2009/03/17/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
[12:12] <nabhash> thanks gargoyle : ubuntu 19.04 . AMD R9 270  i insytallled Amdgpu-pro driver
[12:13] <nabhash> oups ubuntu 16.04
[12:13] <Gargoyle> nabhash, via the built in control panel or did you download separately?
[12:14] <nabhash> download separately
[12:15] <Gargoyle> OK. Search for "Software and updates" an launch the utility. Then look in the additional drivers tab (This is how you do it for nvidia, not sure if AMD is the same)
[12:17] <nabhash> when i do dpkg -l amdgpu-pro    it is listed
[12:18] <Gargoyle> Well, if you're messing around with dpkg directly, then I'm sure you know what you're doing!
[12:20] <nabhash> actually i don't lol
[12:20] <nabhash> i get ii in the begining of list , what does that mean ?
[12:22] <colinl> installed
[12:23] <Gargoyle> So do you have no GUI at all?
[12:24] <nabhash> colin1 , i thought so ii<blank>  means installed and no error
[12:26] <nabhash> Gargoyle : I have both ... a monitor plugged on the card ( funny enough I have AMD radeon HD 8800 on "about this compueter " on the gui ) and i also access it thru putty on another machine
[12:28] <willcooke> off to London
[12:28] <willcooke> l8r
[12:28] <didrocks> jbicha: I did it yesterday evening
[12:28] <didrocks> jbicha: just didn't push because wanted to test for a day first :)
[12:29] <didrocks> didn'tspot anything funky right now
[12:29] <jbicha> didrocks: cool, glad I asked then :)
[12:29] <Gargoyle> So if you search in the launcher for "additional drivers" or "software & updates" there is a config tool which will confirm what you have active
[12:29] <didrocks> jbicha: I plan to upload a alt-tab fix in G-S tomorrow morning, I can handle the update at the same time if you don't mind
[12:31] <Gargoyle> nabhash, Also, running "sudo apt-get install -f" will check and fix for any broken dependencies (Which can happen when using dpkg to install stuff directly)
[12:31] <nabhash> Gargoyle : i am doing updates now , but on other software I had amdgpu-pro enabled
[12:31] <jbicha> didrocks: go ahead, you can sync mutter from Debian experimental then too
[12:32] <didrocks> jbicha: ok, will handle both!
[12:32] <nabhash> Grgoyle : sudo apt-get install -f    will check for all what's installed ?
[12:33] <Gargoyle> nabhash, "man apt-get" for a full description of what it does.
[13:04] <nabhash> are there any diagnostic tools i can download and check my system hardware ( ubuntu 16.04)
[13:06] <didrocks> I think those kind of questions/discussions should rather be on #ubuntu (this is the channel for developping the next ubuntu version)
[13:07] <ogra_> (actually for developing the *desktop* for the next ubuntu version even)
[13:07] <didrocks> jbicha: 3.26 mutter isn't in debian yet, correct?
[13:10] <nabhash> ok thanks for your help anyway
[13:18] <jbicha> didrocks: mutter 3.26 is in experimental (but you'll need to wait a few hours for LP to let you sync it)
[13:19] <didrocks> jbicha: ah, I was looking at the pts
[13:19] <jbicha> it's in experimental because mozjs52 isn't working on all architectures
[13:33] <didrocks> jbicha: mutter is not going to be a sync anyway, correct? as we have the s390x arch ignore
[13:34] <xnox> didrocks, hi, i was wondering if i'm allowed to experiment with gdm css for the lock screen. I want ubuntu logo, ubuntu release, ubuntu dot pattern, ubuntu background all over it.
[13:34] <didrocks> xnox: you have ubuntu logo already
[13:34] <xnox> didrocks, *caugh* unity-launcher *caugh*
[13:34] <xnox> didrocks, ah, i must be out of date.
[13:35] <didrocks> xnox: that's not gdm or the lock screen?
[13:35] <didrocks> :)
[13:35] <didrocks> xnox: please don't upload anything before we see it
[13:35] <didrocks> and have willcooke and us in the loop :)
[13:35] <didrocks> xnox: also, test on multi-monitors
[13:35] <didrocks> like, if you display an image, gdm doesn't handle multi-monitors well
[13:36] <xnox> didrocks, sure.
[13:36] <didrocks> (it scales the image across all visible area)
[13:36] <xnox> twats
[13:38] <Gargoyle> I've got three screens and want to see something other that the purple vomit pattern with the grey input boxes! So happy to test if you can show me how.
[13:40] <didrocks> xnox: for the logo, take latest ubuntu-settings btw
[13:40] <didrocks> (and reboot ofc ;))
[13:41] <vithiri> This is potentially not the right forum, so my apologies in advance, but does anyone know if the global menu bar is planned to make a come-back in or post 17.10?
[13:44] <oSoMoN> speaking of multiple monitors, my settings used to be retained across reboots (at home I use only my external monitor, my laptop screen is off), now they aren't any longer, at boot both monitors are on
[13:44] <didrocks> vithiri: as I mentioned on planet ubuntu (https://didrocks.fr/2017/08/03/ubuntu--guadec-2017-and-plans-for-gnome-shell-migration/), no global menu is planned
[13:44] <oSoMoN> known issue?
[13:45] <vithiri> didrocks, Ah, I've missed that one. Thanks! :)
[13:46] <didrocks> yw ;à
[13:46] <didrocks> ;)
[14:03] <seb128> oSoMoN, bug #1716341 , would be useful if you could upstream it (if you don't have a GNOME bugzilla account it's a good opportunity to open one ;-)
[14:03] <seb128> oSoMoN, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=gnome-control-center
[14:04] <seb128> jbicha, ^ do you know if that's a known regression in 3.26?
[14:07] <oSoMoN> seb128, doing
[14:15] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks
[14:17] <willcooke> Laney, wow, 12MB! I can't work out what I did wrong there, but thanks for being awesome!
[14:19] <oSoMoN> seb128, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787629
[14:21] <seb128> great
[14:29] <jackpot51> After the BlueBorne revelations, we are looking for ways to disable Bluetooth by default. Is there a good way to do this?
[14:31] <mdeslaur> jackpot51: you can probably blacklist the bluetooth modules by adding something to /etc/modprobe.d
[14:31] <mdeslaur> not sure what they're called though
[14:31] <mdeslaur> maybe just "bluetooth" would be sufficient
[14:33] <Laney> willcooke: probably destroyed the quality, but I can't tell :P
[14:35] <Laney> should we wait for the default wallpaper or not bother?
[14:36] <ogra_> mdeslaur, i thought kernel stack protection saves you from it (dont we have that on in all our kernels) ?
[14:37] <mdeslaur> ogra_: saves you from remote code execution, doesn't save you from remote kernel DoS
[14:37] <ogra_> ah
[14:40] <jackpot51> mdeslaur: I want the user to be able to enable it in the control center. Essentially, I need to rfkill block bluetooth, but only once
[14:40] <mdeslaur> oh, I see
[14:41] <mdeslaur> not sure where the best place to do that would be
[14:41] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: ^
[14:44] <willcooke> Laney, just be round to design, no sign of marcus, going looking again...
[14:44] <willcooke> *been
[14:57] <Laney> /o\
[16:04] <willcooke> New laptop, same wifi woes.
[16:15] <seb128> willcooke, same chipset?
[16:16] <willcooke> Dont think so, can't remember.  No, can't be cos this is 5Ghz
[16:16] <willcooke> Prolly the wifi here
[16:16] <seb128> weird
[16:17] <seb128> others don't see the issue though
[16:17] <seb128> it's in the office right?
[16:17] <willcooke> yeah
[16:17] <seb128> I never had such problem there
[16:33] <ogra_> seb128, just sell willcooke your laptop then ;)
[16:33] <kenvandine> ogra_, lol
[16:33] <kenvandine> problem solved!
[16:34] <willcooke> :)
[16:35] <seb128> buy Dell instead of Lenovo
[16:35] <ogra_> +1
[16:57] <seb128> oSoMoN, btw you mentioned yesterday libreoffice stucked in proposed, bug #1712873 is tagged block-proposed as discussed before your week off, feel free to untag (then you said there was test issues, the i386 is still the kernel/java segfault one?)
[17:03] <oSoMoN> seb128, I *think* the i386 failures are caused by the kernel/java segfault, but haven't really looked into them yet
[17:04] <seb128> oSoMoN, k, let me know if you need me, I'm off tomorrow/friday but drop me an email and I might get to it before monday
[17:05] <oSoMoN> ack, thanks!
[17:05] <oSoMoN> but enjoy your time off!
[17:07] <willcooke> Righty ho, will live tweet the GNOME release party.
[17:07] <willcooke> night all
[17:54] <oSoMoN> nighty night
[19:29] <vithiri> The area where the title bar of maximized windows meet the top panel looks a bit jarring in 17.10. Will it become more seamless before the release, or will that be targeted at some later point?
[20:04] <jbicha> vithiri: would you like to file a bug for that double gradient issue against ubuntu-themes?
[20:14] <vithiri> jbicha, is it ubuntu-themes or light-themes?
[20:15] <jbicha> ubuntu-themes now
[20:16] <jbicha> at least the source package is ubuntu-themes
[20:27] <vithiri> jbicha, I'm not certain that it's not a design decision, but here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1717023
[20:29] <jbicha> thanks!