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MooDoohowdy all07:22
Gargoyleo/07:39
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:42
Gargoylewhat about us Aliens, brobostigon?07:52
brobostigonthose too, :)07:54
brobostigonmulti'gendered aliens?07:54
Gargoyle:D07:55
MooDoohowdy howdy08:01
brobostigonmorning MooDoo08:02
Gargoyleo/08:03
MooDoohowdy brobostigon Gargoyle08:04
diploMorning all08:56
MooDoohowdy diplo, how's tricks?08:56
diploNot to bad thanks, sat on a train heading to the big smoke08:57
diployourself ?08:57
MooDooyeah i'm ok thanks, just reading up on that bluetooth bluebourne thing08:59
diploooh whats that then ?09:22
diploSorry, dodgy line :)09:22
MooDoohttps://www.armis.com/blueborne/09:23
MooDoohacking bluetooth devices really09:23
diploooh interesting09:25
* diplo saves that for the way back09:25
zmoylan-pinow all those phones with out head phone jacks are vulnerable :-)09:27
diploRight better packlaptopaway09:27
MooDoolater09:28
zmoylan-piyou need a smaller irc doohickey :-)09:29
zmoylan-piin another channel iphones facial recognigition is a reason not to buy iphone x for his twin teenage daughters... :-P09:37
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diddledanzmoylan-pi: twins? what could go wrong?!11:24
zmoylan-piwell for iphone x all twins are evil :-)11:29
zmoylan-piespecially when teenager11:30
diddledanhttps://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/13/doubts-speculation-face-id-fail-iphone-x-keynote/12:37
diddledanhaha, the adverts on that page as I loaded it are all for samsung via the carphone warehouse12:37
zmoylan-pithere are adverts on web pages?!12:38
diddledanwhat's a web page?12:46
diddledanis that like Internet Explorer?12:47
zmoylan-pisure, you just view them in netscape excel...12:49
diddledanI was talking to Joe the other day and he said that netscape are going communist12:50
diddledansomething to do with open hippies12:51
* diddledan strokes his neckbeard13:03
m0nkey_hippy13:26
diddledanerr.. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2017-September/017670.html13:28
diddledanhow about you configure your own system how you want it?!13:28
diddledanIMO that is merely a sysadmin fail13:30
MooDooyup me too13:30
diddledanthe BFG: https://twitter.com/IamHappyToast/status/90797075593730457614:14
diddledanjeepus, America! https://twitter.com/make5calls/status/90797655454159667214:39
diddledanI wonder why we're drawn to stories about dystopias14:47
diddledanmaybe it's a reinforcement thing that what we're watching proves that our world can still get much worse14:49
Laney"your ISA money could be earning a market leading variable rate of 1.15% tax-free p.a./AER"17:19
Laneyjokers17:20
diddledandaftykins: zmoylan-pi : I hope shauno doesn't see https://youtu.be/sjlHnJvXdQs17:41
zmoylan-pipeople are already saying they're going to buy it17:45
zmoylan-pionce the sale of their kidney on ebay goes through of course...17:46
zmoylan-piwhen you consider for many people that their phone has replaced their laptop for most of what they do online.  it seems a bit more reasonable as they used to fork out over a grand for one of those17:53
zmoylan-piso we're reaching an era like it was in 90s in japan were people didn't own pcs and wrote novels on their phones...18:01
ali1234wait18:10
ali1234iphone x is a real thing, and they also made an iphone 8 at the same time?18:11
daftykinsyep18:11
ali1234is "x" pronounced "ten" like OS X?18:11
daftykinsone to be the incremental upgrade, the other to push the boundaries18:11
daftykinsyep18:11
ali1234and there's no iphone 9?18:11
zmoylan-pinein18:11
ali1234i have no words18:12
ali1234none that i can say here anyway18:12
daftykinsand still the cultists will lap it all up and preorder, amazing18:13
ali1234i'm not sure they will tbh18:15
daftykins:)18:15
zmoylan-piwe'll have to see what sales numbers are like...18:15
zmoylan-pithose that they release of course...18:16
ali1234i'm sure they'll sell loads18:16
ali1234but perhaps fewer than previous iterations18:16
zmoylan-pibut they didn't seem to release a new small phone so that will upset a few18:17
ali1234it's probably a good mode18:17
ali1234*move18:17
ali1234the small phone owners are probably the least likely to upgrade18:17
ali1234most likely to be happy to keep what they already have18:18
zmoylan-pibut the 5se's are starting to show their age18:18
ali1234are they though?18:18
zmoylan-pido they still get updates?18:18
daftykinsanything without a 64-bit CPU will be culled shortly18:18
zmoylan-pifor folk with small hands it was optimal18:19
ali1234maybe that's ho it will go with apple, but in general that won't happen18:21
daftykinswhich?18:23
ali123464 bit18:23
daftykinsyeah probably18:23
daftykinsthat 5c i got given the other day is 32-bit only so it won't see iOS 11 and likely become redundant very shortly18:24
zmoylan-pii think the bigger gap in their offerings is that there was no mac book pro yesterday18:24
daftykinshuh?18:24
zmoylan-pior mac pro rather... saw a few channels hoping against hope for something18:25
ali1234mac pro like desktop?18:25
ali1234didn't they release a new one last time?18:25
daftykinsoh no they already said that won't rear its' head before 2018 or 201918:25
ali1234going back to the classic tower case style?18:26
daftykinsyeah they're definitely doing a U turn on it18:26
zmoylan-piseems people want expandable not an appliance18:26
ali1234well yeah, if people want an appliance they'll buy a mac book18:26
ali1234the stupid trash can thing had no market18:26
zmoylan-piand some old mac books are going for very good money online as you can't buy them new anymore18:26
* daftykins giggles over the guy in Dixons Travel at London Gatwick asking for an adapter for a standard USB port on the lowest end macbook18:27
zmoylan-pi*KERCHING*18:31
daftykinsindeedy18:31
zmoylan-piwhy are they fetching a red cushion with gold brain?18:32
m0nkey_Heh, I saw people with the new MacBooks at this conference I went to. It was dongles, dongles everywhere18:42
daftykins:) madness18:42
zmoylan-pidongles all the way down....18:43
m0nkey_At least my Mac has standard USB ports :)18:43
m0nkey_Advantage of having an old mac18:43
daftykinsstill a mac though ;)18:43
m0nkey_It's 5 years old, I'm not replacing it until it dies.18:44
zmoylan-pitill they decide it is no longer mac like enough...18:44
m0nkey_I'm kinda amazed it's still working actually.18:44
zmoylan-pimac make or made very good laptops.18:44
zmoylan-piwas common to hear of a student using same macbook all through college whereas windows users were on a new one per year18:45
daftykinsthe move to soldered in SSDs mean that (almost all) of the very latest models are now just tossable when there's a problem, oh and hope you have a backup...18:45
m0nkey_mine doesn't have a soldered ssd thankfully18:45
daftykinsi think that's more down to the fact they'd buy some <£300 turd and expect to be sorted18:46
daftykinsno it's only on the latest models as i said18:46
daftykinsno doubt becoming the norm, though18:46
daftykinsand before that it was proprietary interfaces that accessory sellers had to reverse engineer18:47
zmoylan-pichromebooks have sewn up cheap end of market18:50
daftykinsnah18:55
zmoylan-picheaper to pick up an american iphone... :-) https://twitter.com/juanbuis/status/90788340219559526519:41
daftykinsgood if you eat nothing and teleport places19:42
zmoylan-piyou cook feral rats on your travel iron... :-P19:44
daftykinshere's a fine news piece: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/13/bikini_baristas_police_investigation/20:56
diddledan"He insisted that all his new hires were told not to expose themselves to customers." <-- because that's what you tell new employees in case it wasn't clear21:00
diddledananyone who insists on telling people not to do something probably means they want them to do it21:01
diddledan"whatever you do *WINK WINKY WINK* don't *WINKY* strip *WINK* and get extra *wink* money for doing *wink* things!"21:02
diddledanhmm, ftp.heanet.ie is timing out21:05
diddledanobviously that's via http21:06
diddledanhttps**21:06
diddledanok, who needs diddlin'!?!21:13
daftykinsooh-err21:19
m0nkey_Ooh, I got a mention: https://www.ixsystems.com/blog/vbsdcon-201721:26
diddledannice21:27
diddledanyou're Internet Famous now21:27
daftykinsheh21:28
* zmoylan-pi remembers been taken aside on my first job in retail and been shown a club to use in case any one tried to rob the place...21:36
m0nkey_I guess I'm officially a BSD guy21:37
diddledanyou can't back-out now21:37
daftykinsunless you turn m0nkey into a kind of Batman role21:38
m0nkey_I run pfSense and FreeNAS, maybe I should install FreeBSD on the desktop ;)21:38
daftykinsi hope you have the prerequisite facial hair21:39
* diddledan hides his beadage21:40
diddledanbeardage*21:40
zmoylan-piand brown sandals with blue socks?21:40
daftykinsdiddledan: put those beads away21:41
diddledanbut they make my face fungus pretty21:41
zmoylan-piwow, equifax had admin admin as user name and password in argentina... :-)23:05

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