[07:22] howdy all [07:39] o/ [07:42] morning boys and girls. [07:52] what about us Aliens, brobostigon? [07:54] those too, :) [07:54] multi'gendered aliens? [07:55] :D [08:01] howdy howdy [08:02] morning MooDoo [08:03] o/ [08:04] howdy brobostigon Gargoyle [08:56] Morning all [08:56] howdy diplo, how's tricks? [08:57] Not to bad thanks, sat on a train heading to the big smoke [08:57] yourself ? [08:59] yeah i'm ok thanks, just reading up on that bluetooth bluebourne thing [09:22] ooh whats that then ? [09:22] Sorry, dodgy line :) [09:23] https://www.armis.com/blueborne/ [09:23] hacking bluetooth devices really [09:25] ooh interesting [09:25] * diplo saves that for the way back [09:27] now all those phones with out head phone jacks are vulnerable :-) [09:27] Right better packlaptopaway [09:28] later [09:29] you need a smaller irc doohickey :-) [09:37] in another channel iphones facial recognigition is a reason not to buy iphone x for his twin teenage daughters... :-P === pev is now known as pevsonic === pevsonic is now known as pevster [11:24] zmoylan-pi: twins? what could go wrong?! [11:29] well for iphone x all twins are evil :-) [11:30] especially when teenager [12:37] https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/13/doubts-speculation-face-id-fail-iphone-x-keynote/ [12:37] haha, the adverts on that page as I loaded it are all for samsung via the carphone warehouse [12:38] there are adverts on web pages?! [12:46] what's a web page? [12:47] is that like Internet Explorer? [12:49] sure, you just view them in netscape excel... [12:50] I was talking to Joe the other day and he said that netscape are going communist [12:51] something to do with open hippies [13:03] * diddledan strokes his neckbeard [13:26] hippy [13:28] err.. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2017-September/017670.html [13:28] how about you configure your own system how you want it?! [13:30] IMO that is merely a sysadmin fail [13:30] yup me too [14:14] the BFG: https://twitter.com/IamHappyToast/status/907970755937304576 [14:39] jeepus, America! https://twitter.com/make5calls/status/907976554541596672 [14:47] I wonder why we're drawn to stories about dystopias [14:49] maybe it's a reinforcement thing that what we're watching proves that our world can still get much worse [17:19] "your ISA money could be earning a market leading variable rate of 1.15% tax-free p.a./AER" [17:20] jokers [17:41] daftykins: zmoylan-pi : I hope shauno doesn't see https://youtu.be/sjlHnJvXdQs [17:45] people are already saying they're going to buy it [17:46] once the sale of their kidney on ebay goes through of course... [17:53] when you consider for many people that their phone has replaced their laptop for most of what they do online. it seems a bit more reasonable as they used to fork out over a grand for one of those [18:01] so we're reaching an era like it was in 90s in japan were people didn't own pcs and wrote novels on their phones... [18:10] wait [18:11] iphone x is a real thing, and they also made an iphone 8 at the same time? [18:11] yep [18:11] is "x" pronounced "ten" like OS X? [18:11] one to be the incremental upgrade, the other to push the boundaries [18:11] yep [18:11] and there's no iphone 9? [18:11] nein [18:12] i have no words [18:12] none that i can say here anyway [18:13] and still the cultists will lap it all up and preorder, amazing [18:15] i'm not sure they will tbh [18:15] :) [18:15] we'll have to see what sales numbers are like... [18:16] those that they release of course... [18:16] i'm sure they'll sell loads [18:16] but perhaps fewer than previous iterations [18:17] but they didn't seem to release a new small phone so that will upset a few [18:17] it's probably a good mode [18:17] *move [18:17] the small phone owners are probably the least likely to upgrade [18:18] most likely to be happy to keep what they already have [18:18] but the 5se's are starting to show their age [18:18] are they though? [18:18] do they still get updates? [18:18] anything without a 64-bit CPU will be culled shortly [18:19] for folk with small hands it was optimal [18:21] maybe that's ho it will go with apple, but in general that won't happen [18:23] which? [18:23] 64 bit [18:23] yeah probably [18:24] that 5c i got given the other day is 32-bit only so it won't see iOS 11 and likely become redundant very shortly [18:24] i think the bigger gap in their offerings is that there was no mac book pro yesterday [18:24] huh? [18:25] or mac pro rather... saw a few channels hoping against hope for something [18:25] mac pro like desktop? [18:25] didn't they release a new one last time? [18:25] oh no they already said that won't rear its' head before 2018 or 2019 [18:26] going back to the classic tower case style? [18:26] yeah they're definitely doing a U turn on it [18:26] seems people want expandable not an appliance [18:26] well yeah, if people want an appliance they'll buy a mac book [18:26] the stupid trash can thing had no market [18:26] and some old mac books are going for very good money online as you can't buy them new anymore [18:27] * daftykins giggles over the guy in Dixons Travel at London Gatwick asking for an adapter for a standard USB port on the lowest end macbook [18:31] *KERCHING* [18:31] indeedy [18:32] why are they fetching a red cushion with gold brain? [18:42] Heh, I saw people with the new MacBooks at this conference I went to. It was dongles, dongles everywhere [18:42] :) madness [18:43] dongles all the way down.... [18:43] At least my Mac has standard USB ports :) [18:43] Advantage of having an old mac [18:43] still a mac though ;) [18:44] It's 5 years old, I'm not replacing it until it dies. [18:44] till they decide it is no longer mac like enough... [18:44] I'm kinda amazed it's still working actually. [18:44] mac make or made very good laptops. [18:45] was common to hear of a student using same macbook all through college whereas windows users were on a new one per year [18:45] the move to soldered in SSDs mean that (almost all) of the very latest models are now just tossable when there's a problem, oh and hope you have a backup... [18:45] mine doesn't have a soldered ssd thankfully [18:46] i think that's more down to the fact they'd buy some <£300 turd and expect to be sorted [18:46] no it's only on the latest models as i said [18:46] no doubt becoming the norm, though [18:47] and before that it was proprietary interfaces that accessory sellers had to reverse engineer [18:50] chromebooks have sewn up cheap end of market [18:55] nah [19:41] cheaper to pick up an american iphone... :-) https://twitter.com/juanbuis/status/907883402195595265 [19:42] good if you eat nothing and teleport places [19:44] you cook feral rats on your travel iron... :-P [20:56] here's a fine news piece: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/13/bikini_baristas_police_investigation/ [21:00] "He insisted that all his new hires were told not to expose themselves to customers." <-- because that's what you tell new employees in case it wasn't clear [21:01] anyone who insists on telling people not to do something probably means they want them to do it [21:02] "whatever you do *WINK WINKY WINK* don't *WINKY* strip *WINK* and get extra *wink* money for doing *wink* things!" [21:05] hmm, ftp.heanet.ie is timing out [21:06] obviously that's via http [21:06] https** [21:13] ok, who needs diddlin'!?! [21:19] ooh-err [21:26] Ooh, I got a mention: https://www.ixsystems.com/blog/vbsdcon-2017 [21:27] nice [21:27] you're Internet Famous now [21:28] heh [21:36] * zmoylan-pi remembers been taken aside on my first job in retail and been shown a club to use in case any one tried to rob the place... [21:37] I guess I'm officially a BSD guy [21:37] you can't back-out now [21:38] unless you turn m0nkey into a kind of Batman role [21:38] I run pfSense and FreeNAS, maybe I should install FreeBSD on the desktop ;) [21:39] i hope you have the prerequisite facial hair [21:40] * diddledan hides his beadage [21:40] beardage* [21:40] and brown sandals with blue socks? [21:41] diddledan: put those beads away [21:41] but they make my face fungus pretty [23:05] wow, equifax had admin admin as user name and password in argentina... :-)