[12:45] <cmaloney> morning
[12:48] <jrwren> Good Morning
[12:48] <jrwren> How are you today?
[12:50] <cmaloney> ok, but my car decided our plans for us
[12:50] <cmaloney> so get to take it in tomorrow
[12:50] <cmaloney> (yay)
[12:51] <cmaloney> we were going to go to Ann Arbor to see Kip Thorne but JoDee doesn't trust our cars
[12:51] <cmaloney> so instead we are going to the zoo
[12:51] <cmaloney> (plan as it stands)
[12:52] <cmaloney> you?
[12:55] <jrwren> :(
[12:56] <jrwren> I can imagine a Lyft ride from there to AA would be $%$$$   what about Zipcar/Maven?
[12:56] <jrwren> I'm doing well enough.
[12:56] <jrwren> Busy at work. Trying to get enough exercise to stay healthy. Trying to find time between those things to read and relax enough. Its life.
[12:57] <cmaloney> jrwren: no worries. just would have been nice to see one of JoDee's heroes
[12:58] <cmaloney> yeah, i can jnderstand that
[13:05] <rick_h> jrwren: heh it's hard!
[13:05] <rick_h> cmaloney: :( on the cars
[13:06] <jrwren> rick_h: i honestly don't know how people do it.
[13:06] <rick_h> jrwren: with ya, I've been saying I was going to go downstairs once I hit the lul in the day all week so far
[13:07] <rick_h> and by the time I get done with work, cleaning, dinner, cleaning more, responsible adult things 1,2,3...wtf it's bed time
[13:07] <rick_h> rough this week with the wife's birthday today so much of the adult things was birthday cards/cake/wrapping/etc
[13:07] <rick_h> but seems like always something
[13:09] <jrwren> It IS always something.
[13:10]  * rick_h is crabby due to knee recovery so grains of salt and all that
[13:15] <cmaloney> rick_h: No worries. Thanks
[13:15] <rick_h> cmaloney: zoo is always a good place to go though
[13:15] <rick_h> cmaloney: how did MUG go?
[13:15] <jrwren> Especially Detroit Zoo. So nice.
[13:16] <cmaloney> Pretty good
[13:16] <cmaloney> Had a good Android talk at the beginning
[13:16] <cmaloney> Android Things
[13:16] <rick_h> The wife loves the one we went to at PyOhio. She still raves about it.
[13:16] <cmaloney> Then I riffed on virtualenv
[13:16] <jrwren> o_O riffed?
[13:17] <cmaloney> Yeah, I am trying to get a presentation series called "Pain Points"
[13:19] <jrwren> ah. nice.
[13:19] <jrwren> virtualenv used to be a pain point. Then i figured out how it all fits together and now it's just another tool
[13:21] <cmaloney> Yeah, that's one of the things with this
[13:21] <cmaloney> I know a lot of folks who don't quite understand how it all fits together
[13:22] <jrwren> sounds great.
[13:22] <cmaloney> so I sat with my laptop and talked about virtualenv
[13:22] <cmaloney> Yeah, it was kind of neat
[13:22] <cmaloney> But it was also supposed to be a seed so others feel free to say "Hey, I know a little bit about  X and can talk about it"
[13:22] <cmaloney> We have a second slot that can't support another large topic
[13:23] <jrwren> right. Cool.
[13:23] <cmaloney> so rather than do something like lightning talks or fishbowl I'd like to make it more productive
[13:23] <cmaloney> rick_h: Happy Birthday Erica! :)
[13:25] <rick_h> cmaloney: happy birthday to you :P
[13:25] <rick_h> cmaloney: hah, I didn't realize it but got her new jogging headphones for her b-day with some other stuff
[13:25] <rick_h> cmaloney: so I guess headphones is the official birthday gift of 2017
[13:27] <jrwren> oh yeah, happy birthday cmaloney
[13:29] <cmaloney> <3
[13:29] <cmaloney> rick_h: Those headphones are awesome. THank you.
[13:29] <rick_h> cmaloney: well someone smart picked them out :P
[13:30] <cmaloney> Heh
[14:02] <jrwren> what kind?
[14:10] <cmaloney> Westone UM pro 10s
[14:11] <cmaloney> Partly because I thought they were the only in-ears that were made in the USA
[14:15] <jrwren> never heard of the brand.
[14:15] <jrwren> how much does the breathing and heartbeat come through?
[14:20] <cmaloney> https://octodon.social/@craigmaloney/6472748
[14:20] <cmaloney> Depends. I put on the silicone tips so it doesn't block out as much
[14:21] <cmaloney> but there are foam tips you can use
[14:21] <cmaloney> they give you about a dozen pairs of tips
[14:22] <cmaloney> Or rather about a dozen tips in there
[14:22] <cmaloney> (not pairs)
[14:22] <cmaloney> but still, S M L XL and one other in Silicone and foam
[14:22]  * cmaloney can do math
[14:23] <cmaloney> The UMs are monitors so they have a flat response
[14:23] <cmaloney> the 10s are single driver, but they have multiple driver ones as well