| vincenzo | Hello. I had a problem in 17.04 and now that I reinstalled 17.10 the problem came back again, and I don't remember how I had solved it previously | 09:49 |
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| vincenzo | My dns gets slow, seems like more specifically in apt | 09:50 |
| vincenzo | when using italian sources | 09:50 |
| vincenzo | the browser is fine, websites load instantly, but apt stays there for 30 seconds at 0% before starting. | 09:50 |
| vincenzo | I seem to recall it was a DNS problem but I'm actually unsure. | 09:50 |
| vincenzo | well, it's not the DNS at least ping works fine | 09:58 |
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| Soul_Sample | hey! my indicators are not showing even though the extension is installed and running. any ideas? thanks! | 18:32 |
| lotuspsychje | Soul_Sample: got the same thing here | 18:35 |
| lotuspsychje | Soul_Sample: think its being worked on still | 18:35 |
| Soul_Sample | a lot of issues with extensions. i upgraded from 17.04 gnome and everything worked well there, now I can't enable half of the extensions and tracker absolutely kills my system on every reboot for a couple of minutes even though everything is indexed | 18:36 |
| lotuspsychje | Soul_Sample: both indicators & dash to dock show in gnome-tweak-tool enabled here | 18:36 |
| Soul_Sample | lotuspsychje: did you notice there is a SECOND extension tweaker? | 18:36 |
| lotuspsychje | Soul_Sample: did you upgrade to 17.10 or clean install? | 18:37 |
| Soul_Sample | it was an upgrade | 18:37 |
| lotuspsychje | Soul_Sample: its not recommended to upgrade yet | 18:37 |
| lotuspsychje | Soul_Sample: still in development | 18:37 |
| Soul_Sample | well yeah, but I figured if something breaks I'll reinstall. I don't want to reinstall for one extension on/off switch &/()= | 18:37 |
| lotuspsychje | Soul_Sample: knotifier indicators addon is what you talk about right? | 18:38 |
| Soul_Sample | this installation went through so much that I'm kind of surprised it still works. Yeah, knotifier, but I also tried topicons, no luck | 18:38 |
| lotuspsychje | Soul_Sample: thats the fork their working on, so i guess we have to be patient in this stage | 18:39 |
| Soul_Sample | i'm okay with that. just wanted to check if there's some quick fix | 18:39 |
| Soul_Sample | everything I run is in development, I live on the edge :D | 18:39 |
| Soul_Sample | but I will probably reinstall for 18.04, it's way overdue | 18:40 |
| lotuspsychje | i found 17.10 clean very stable myself already | 18:40 |
| lotuspsychje | im gonna help bug out intil 18.04 | 18:40 |
| Soul_Sample | I actually have to move to a clean home folder, there's hundreds of redundant files everywhere. I installed this as 16.04 unity, upgraded it to kde neon, downgraded back to 16.04, upgraded to 16.10>17.04 mate, back to unity, switched to gnome, upgraded to 17.10. and IT STILL BOOTS | 18:41 |
| lotuspsychje | Soul_Sample: you could dig around dconf-editor perhaps, thats where i found dash to dock tweaks | 18:42 |
| lotuspsychje | Soul_Sample: thats asking for issues lol | 18:42 |
| Soul_Sample | ubuntu Dock doesn't show up at all, but luckily Dash to dock worked as soon as I reinstalled it | 18:42 |
| Soul_Sample | It's actually impressive, 8.10 fell apart for every little thing, driver update, random upgrade, wrong version of a conf file. Feels like it's invincible now | 18:43 |
| Soul_Sample | I remember spending whole nights trying to type out xorg.conf manually to make my second display work | 18:44 |
| Soul_Sample | and then drivers would update and overwrite the xorg.conf :D | 18:44 |
| lotuspsychje | for proper helping 17.10 i would recommend clean install | 18:44 |
| lotuspsychje | you never know what old leftovers can confuse system | 18:45 |
| lotuspsychje | also not very helpful to add a !bug this way | 18:45 |
| Soul_Sample | well you have the exact same issue and yours was a clean install! | 18:45 |
| lotuspsychje | and i have placed some bus to help out | 18:47 |
| lotuspsychje | *bugs | 18:47 |
| alias_neo | :https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful . Should I raise them there? | 19:26 |
| alias_neo | 20:24 < alias_neo> I find it hard to believe they haven't been raised so is there somewhe | 19:26 |
| alias_neo | well that didn't work | 19:26 |
| lotuspsychje | alias_neo: explain the whole story please? | 19:27 |
| alias_neo | So I'm running Arty on my new Ryzen build because it's got a late enough kernel that I can even boot. | 19:27 |
| alias_neo | I installed the nightly from 4 or 5 nights ago | 19:27 |
| lotuspsychje | okay and your issue is? | 19:27 |
| alias_neo | I apt update a couple of times a day, and I have a couple of issues; | 19:28 |
| lotuspsychje | alias_neo: can you hastebin them to channel? | 19:28 |
| alias_neo | I'm not sure what you mean? You want me to write up the issue in a hastebin? | 19:28 |
| lotuspsychje | no, the putput of errors of apt update | 19:29 |
| lotuspsychje | output | 19:29 |
| alias_neo | there's no errors in apt update | 19:29 |
| alias_neo | the reference to apt update was meaning that I keep it up to date, apologies | 19:29 |
| alias_neo | (and apt upgrade too of course) | 19:29 |
| lotuspsychje | ok whats your couple of issues? | 19:29 |
| ducasse | alias_neo: you should be using full-upgrade, mot just upgrade | 19:30 |
| alias_neo | So, the first is that I set scale to 200% because I'm on a 4K monitor, after a reboot the shell is unscaled and I have to go into display, click 100% and apply, and then it goes back to 200% and scales. | 19:30 |
| alias_neo | ducasse: Thanks, I was not aware | 19:31 |
| alias_neo | The second issue is that if my machine sleeps, I come back to a broken lock screen with a white background, and if I log in all my windows are gone. | 19:31 |
| alias_neo | by sleep I mean screen-off, not suspend | 19:31 |
| brainwash | bug 1717272 | 19:32 |
| ubottu | bug 1717272 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "HiDPI settings reset on logout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717272 | 19:32 |
| alias_neo | Hmm, is search case sensitive? Because I searched several variations on "hi-dpi" and "scaling" | 19:32 |
| alias_neo | Ok, so that's one down, as it's already raised | 19:33 |
| brainwash | it was opened 4 hours ago | 19:33 |
| lotuspsychje | nice find brainwash | 19:33 |
| alias_neo | What's the best way to add some weight to it? Simple click that it affects me? | 19:34 |
| brainwash | is your second issue really triggered by turning off the screen? | 19:34 |
| brainwash | I guess so alias_neo | 19:35 |
| alias_neo | not by turning it off, when it turns itself off | 19:35 |
| alias_neo | as in screen-off session locked, I forget the term for it | 19:35 |
| alias_neo | when I'm afk | 19:35 |
| brainwash | did you try to manually lock the session? | 19:35 |
| alias_neo | No, I'll try now, one moment | 19:36 |
| alias_neo | I'm guessing that one just answered itself | 19:37 |
| alias_neo | not only is everything closed, my scaling reset itself back to 100% | 19:37 |
| brainwash | the first issue was filed against gnome-control-center, and a new version is available in -proposed | 19:38 |
| alias_neo | Hmm, my ression just crashed and hte system rebooted | 19:40 |
| alias_neo | apologies if I missed any reponses | 19:40 |
| brainwash | alias_neo: first issue was filed against gnome-control-center, and a new version is available in -proposed | 19:40 |
| brainwash | there may be other gnome packages in -proposed also | 19:41 |
| alias_neo | Just enabling it as we speak | 19:41 |
| alias_neo | is there any harm in just installed all proposed updates? | 19:42 |
| brainwash | hard to tell | 19:42 |
| alias_neo | I mean, what's the best way to keep track of updates to the pre-realease? | 19:43 |
| brainwash | keep track? | 19:43 |
| alias_neo | Anyway, not to worry, I'm here to report bugs if needed | 19:43 |
| alias_neo | so the second issue, do we think it needs raising? | 19:44 |
| brainwash | certainly it does | 19:44 |
| alias_neo | Ok, then I shall do so | 19:44 |
| brainwash | please check the system log (journalctl) for hints | 19:45 |
| alias_neo | conversely, is there something I can do to indicate a bug appears to be fixed, a la the first one? | 19:45 |
| alias_neo | (assuming I reboot now and it proves to be fixed) | 19:45 |
| brainwash | then you add a comment to the bug report | 19:45 |
| alias_neo | Great, then I'll reboot and see if the gnome-control-center update fixed the scaling and report that. | 19:46 |
| alias_neo | brb | 19:46 |
| brainwash | ok | 19:46 |
| alias_neo | Ok, the gnome-control-center update does not appear to have resolved the issue | 19:50 |
| brainwash | did you install any other gnome related updates? | 19:51 |
| alias_neo | I installed the "additional" and any others that started with gnome-* | 19:51 |
| brainwash | ok | 19:52 |
| brainwash | that's valuable information also | 19:52 |
| alias_neo | Where does it see which version this was supposedly fix in? | 19:52 |
| alias_neo | s/see/say/ | 19:52 |
| lotuspsychje | alias_neo: wich kernel are you on plz? | 19:52 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic | 19:52 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.12.0.13.14 (artful), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB | 19:52 |
| alias_neo | lotuspsychje: 4.13.0-041300-generic | 19:53 |
| alias_neo | Installing linux-image-generic meta as we speak | 19:54 |
| alias_neo | I'm not sure it'll boot though, 4.13 is the only one I've had success with on this Ryzen machine | 19:54 |
| lotuspsychje | ah | 19:55 |
| alias_neo | I@m happy to try boot into it now it's installed | 19:56 |
| brainwash | alias_neo: I mean you should add to the report that you've tested with gnome packages from -proposed also | 19:56 |
| brainwash | that's valuable information | 19:56 |
| alias_neo | brainwash: Sure thing | 19:56 |
| brainwash | the lock screen issue may be related to xorg vs wayland session | 19:57 |
| brainwash | did you test with both? | 19:57 |
| lotuspsychje | brainwash: isnt that still worked on? | 19:58 |
| alias_neo | I don't have the session switcher on my login screen for some reason. I'm pretty sure though Xorg didn't work at all. I may have to test that if I recall incorrectly | 19:58 |
| lotuspsychje | brainwash: last time i checked, xorg was still default | 19:58 |
| brainwash | I have no clue | 19:59 |
| brainwash | running a minimal system since long | 19:59 |
| lotuspsychje | first i had xorg and Xwayland, then wayland dissapeared | 19:59 |
| lotuspsychje | think its still work in progress | 19:59 |
| alias_neo | How do I confirm which I'm on? | 19:59 |
| brainwash | I assume the wayland option is hidden when a closed source gpu driver is used | 20:00 |
| alias_neo | Ah yes, I'm on Nvidia drivers | 20:00 |
| brainwash | but on the other hand.. gnome did add support for the nvidia driver recently I think | 20:00 |
| brainwash | this new tech :D | 20:01 |
| alias_neo | I've been quite happily running some ML/CUDA stuffo n the Nvidia driver here though. | 20:01 |
| brainwash | well, either way you should check system and session logs | 20:02 |
| brainwash | this will tell you why your session is closed unexpectedly | 20:03 |
| alias_neo | This any use: https://hastebin.com/yiboterebi.vbs ? | 20:04 |
| brainwash | it probably is | 20:07 |
| alias_neo | lotuspsychje: What should I look out for if the kernel you suggested boots? | 20:08 |
| lotuspsychje | alias_neo: just wanted to know for info | 20:09 |
| alias_neo | ok | 20:09 |
| lotuspsychje | alias_neo: if you fill bug, mention kernel too ok | 20:09 |
| alias_neo | will do :d | 20:09 |
| alias_neo | just going to reboot and try that 4.12 kernel | 20:10 |
| alias_neo | in fact, let me grab another machine for irc, logging in with irssi every time is getting irksome, plus HiDPI works on the other machine running Xenial :D | 20:10 |
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| brainwash | alias_neo_1: maybe bug 1697882 | 20:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1697882 in gdm "GDM should not allow X11 sessions when NVIDIA's KMS is enabled" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1697882 | 20:11 |
| brainwash | but it should be fixed anyway | 20:12 |
| alias_neo_1 | hmm, my log suggests kms isn't enabled? | 20:13 |
| alias_neo_1 | or am I misinterpreting it | 20:13 |
| brainwash | that's true | 20:15 |
| alias_neo_1 | catting that modeset module says N on my machine | 20:15 |
| alias_neo_1 | let me turn it on and reboot and test | 20:16 |
| brainwash | I would run "ubuntu-bug gdm3" to help filing a new bug report | 20:17 |
| brainwash | at this point I'm a bit distracted | 20:18 |
| brainwash | can't pay much attention right now | 20:18 |
| alias_neo_1 | no problem | 20:19 |
| alias_neo | I switcihed to Wayland, that fixed the scaling bug, but the machine doesn't wake at all from locked session with Wayland | 20:48 |
| alias_neo | how do I get the log for this session since I'll have to forcefully power cycle the box? | 20:49 |
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| david_ | I'm recieving the error owncloud: relocation error: /opt/ownCloud/qt-5.6.2/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5OpenGL.so.5: symbol _ZTV26QOpenGLSharedResourceGuard, version Qt_5_PRIVATE_API not defined in file libQt5Gui.so.5 with link time reference in Kubuntu. It is preventing the owncloud-client from running. Just happened with an update of Artful 17.10 today | 23:39 |
| david_ | Unfortunately I have no idea why and Google was no help. Other clients on other machines work fine. | 23:40 |
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