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[15:00] <sil2100> o/
[15:00] <Tribaal> o/
[15:01]  * slangasek waves
[15:01] <rbalint> o/
[15:01] <Odd_Bloke> o/
[15:02] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep 14 15:02:59 2017 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:03] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
[15:03] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e slangasek bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke tribaal fginther)
[15:03] <slangasek> fginther slangasek tribaal xnox infinity rbalint Odd_Bloke mwhudson rcj tdaitx sil2100 cyphermox philroche bdmurray doko
[15:03] <slangasek> fginther: hello!
[15:04] <fginther> hello
[15:05] <fginther> * Short week due to vacation
[15:05] <fginther> * Integrating the linux-azure kernel into daily images.
[15:05] <fginther> * Built an updated WSL appx to upload to the windows store
[15:05] <fginther> done
[15:05] <fginther> slangasek, you're up
[15:05] <fginther> Oh one more
[15:05] <fginther> * debug a partner networking issue
[15:06] <fginther> and done again
[15:06] <slangasek>  * short week, on vacation all last week
[15:06] <slangasek>  * [HIGHLIGHT] Ubuntu for containers on Windows released this week!
[15:06] <slangasek>  * working this week on un-breaking cloud image builds, still down following the launchpad lxd transition
[15:06] <slangasek>  * chasing autopkgtests for proposed-migration (glibc)
[15:06] <slangasek>  * working on removing dependencies on initramfs-tools, for minimization of images (LP: #1716825, LP: #1716818, LP: #1713169)
[15:06] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1716825 in plymouth (Ubuntu Zesty) "Remove unnecessary dependency on initramfs-tools" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1716825
[15:06] <slangasek> (done)
[15:06] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1716818 in mdadm (Ubuntu Xenial) "Remove obsolete versioned dependency on initramfs-tools" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1716818
[15:06] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1713169 in apparmor (Ubuntu Xenial) "Remove wrong dependency on initramfs-tools" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1713169
[15:06] <Tribaal> * Investigation of docker-on-cloud-images memory usage
[15:06] <Tribaal> * Fixing a package upgrade weirdness with grub-legacy-ec2 on xenial images
[15:06] <Tribaal> * Various reviews and fixes
[15:06] <Tribaal> Done.
[15:07] <Tribaal> xnox:
[15:07] <xnox> rax / mdadm shutdown bug - introducing iscsi like finalramfs does not appear to help; will request debug shutdown console log.
[15:07] <xnox> subiquity - continuing to work on colors and i18n
[15:07] <xnox> cloud-images - assisting / debugging / waiting to fix cloud-image building (timeouts on metadata server, LXD/s390x changes, general debugging)
[15:07] <xnox> WSL - review fginther appx.
[15:07] <xnox> systemd - progress on better resolved integration (not uploaded)
[15:07] <xnox> done
[15:08] <slangasek> infinity absent
[15:08] <slangasek> rbalint:
[15:08] <rbalint> * worked on https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/09/13/running-ubuntu-containers-with-hyper-v-isolation/
[15:08] <rbalint> * u-u: LP: #1624644 and other bugs
[15:08] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1624644 in update-manager (Ubuntu Artful) "Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1624644
[15:08] <rbalint> * moved everything forward in main on http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ that was not being worked on actively
[15:08] <rbalint> * +1-maint: LP: #1715167 (fixing in a different way, still looking for sponsor), #874522 (take patch)
[15:08] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1715167 in nagios-nrpe (Ubuntu) "FTBFS in Artful" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1715167
[15:08] <rbalint> (done)
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> * On vacation; back yesterday
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> * Working to get xenial builds in to good shape after lxd builder migration
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> * Getting GCE testing working; need further investigation of potential networking issues
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> (done)
[15:09] <slangasek> rcj is traveling
[15:09] <slangasek> tdaitx:
[15:09] <tdaitx> Short week: sick since Tue night/Wed early morning, recovering
[15:09] <tdaitx> * Investigating Debian Bug #874434
[15:09] <tdaitx> * Started local rebuilds with OpenJDK 9 as default-jre/jdk
[15:09] <tdaitx> * Other: away next week wed-fri
[15:09] <ubottu> Debian bug 874434 in src:openjdk-8 "openjdk-8-jre-headless: uninstallable on armhf" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/874434
[15:09] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:09] <doko> tdaitx: does this affect us as well?
[15:10] <sil2100> - Was half-day off on Wednesday
[15:10] <sil2100> - Released a new google-cloud-sdk (version 169)
[15:10] <sil2100> - DMB meeting:
[15:10] <sil2100>   * Usual candidate reviews and duties
[15:10] <sil2100>   * Announcing and onboarding the one new board member (HIGHLIGHT?)
[15:10] <sil2100> - Prepared and released update-manager fix for autopkgtest regression
[15:10] <sil2100> - Kernel SRU re-spin reviews
[15:10] <sil2100> - Add additional fixes to the kernel-sru-review ESM support branch
[15:10] <tdaitx> doko, I saw it today, I'm still checking that... need an armhf for that
[15:10] <sil2100> - Regular SRU reviews
[15:10] <sil2100> - ubuntu-image:
[15:10] <sil2100>   * Full review and discussion regarding the classic builder branch
[15:10] <sil2100>   * Prepared and merged some basic man-page documentation of hooks
[15:10] <sil2100> - Dealing with mysterious local ssh problems
[15:10] <sil2100> - Spinning and re-spinning of ubuntu-core plano images (15.04 based)
[15:10] <sil2100> (done)
[15:12] <slangasek> cyphermox: around?
[15:13] <slangasek> philroche is out
[15:13] <slangasek> bdmurray:
[15:13] <bdmurray> SRU review of python3.5 again
[15:13] <bdmurray> special Zesty SRU release of nova for coreycb
[15:13] <bdmurray> special SRU review of livecd-rootfs for X and Z, +2
[15:13] <bdmurray> review of plasma-workspace halted phased update / email reply
[15:13] <bdmurray> investigation into, fixed phased-updater failure to email sponsees(?)
[15:13] <bdmurray> updated test case for xfsprogs (LP: #1696102)
[15:13] <bdmurray> reviewed sil2100's MP re: update-manager test failure
[15:13] <bdmurray> uploaded zesty, artful fixes for LP: #1676547
[15:13] <bdmurray> reported gnome-shell bug re window switching LP: #1716415
[15:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1696102 in xfsprogs (Ubuntu Zesty) "xfs/073 test fails with Metadata corruption detected on xfs file system (xfsprogs)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1696102
[15:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1676547 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "No network connectivity after upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1676547
[15:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1508146 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1716415 Alt+left/right arrows switch between tty consoles (Gnome Shell vanishes), cannot disable" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1508146
[15:14] <bdmurray> discussion with cyphermox regarding small /boot
[15:14] <bdmurray> submitted partman-auto bug re: small /boot (LP: #1716999)
[15:14] <bdmurray> emailed TB re DMB election results
[15:14] <bdmurray> reviewed rbalint's core developer application
[15:14] <bdmurray> submitted bug for TB re fossfreedom packageset (LP: #1716770)
[15:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1716999 in partman-auto (Ubuntu) "installer creates rather small /boot partition" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1716999
[15:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1716770 in ubuntu-community "[TB/DMB] New packageset ~personal-fossfreedom in Artful" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1716770
[15:14] <bdmurray> investigation into LP: #1689668 and LP: #1690541
[15:14] <bdmurray> dealt with a huge ton of spam / setup a system to handle it
[15:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1689668 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu Artful) "dialog to resolve config file conflicts can be only one line high" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1689668
[15:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1690541 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Scrolled windows in update-manager are too small to read" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1690541
[15:14] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:14] <bdmurray> doko:
[15:14] <doko> - worked on the artful museum of llvm-X.Y versions
[15:14] <doko> - fixing older gcc's to build in artful
[15:14] <doko> - fixing autopkg tests, a lot ...
[15:14] <doko> - more maven fixes
[15:14] <doko> - fixing build failures
[15:14] <doko> - still looking at debug symbols size explosion by a factor of five on arm64 and ppc64el, only seen with llvm
[15:14] <doko>  builds
[15:14] <doko> - been on the GNU Cauldron from Fri-Sun
[15:14] <doko> (done)
[15:16] <slangasek> any questions on status?
[15:16] <sil2100> All good
[15:17] <slangasek> conferences seem like they should be highlights for this week
[15:17] <slangasek> so, highlight: GNU Cauldron, Linux Plumbers
[15:17] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs
[15:17] <slangasek> bdmurray: bugs to discuss today?
[15:17] <bdmurray> bug 1711358 is newly tagged
[15:17] <ubottu> bug 1711358 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "20170817 - ISO hangs on boot on qemu with splash screen enabled and qxl graphics driver" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1711358
[15:18] <slangasek> [LINK] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:18] <slangasek> [LINK] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1711358
[15:20] <slangasek> bdmurray: I think we should decline that one, at least for Foundations; we don't have the resources to debug the interactions between plymouth and all of the qemu video drivers
[15:21] <slangasek> anything else on bugs, then?
[15:21] <rbalint> LP: #1439769 would be needed in Trusty, too, IMO, it plays really bad with u-u
[15:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1439769 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "various linux packages being marked as manually installed, still prevents 'apt-get autoremove' from doing the right thing for kernels" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439769
[15:22] <bdmurray> bug 1619258 is new too
[15:22] <ubottu> bug 1619258 in nplan (Ubuntu) "netplan should allow NICs to be disconnected and not stall the boot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1619258
[15:22] <xnox> i think that is actually systemd
[15:22] <xnox> but maybe not
[15:22] <slangasek> rbalint: well, diminishing returns on fixing such things for LTS-1
[15:23] <slangasek> users have been dealing with this bug already for 3 years on trusty...
[15:27] <slangasek> related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nplan/+bug/1716500
[15:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1714301 in systemd (Ubuntu Artful) "duplicate for #1716500 systemd-networkd hangs my boot (wireless)" [High,Confirmed]
[15:30] <ogra_> hah, xnox beats me on LP 1619258
[15:30] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1619258 in nplan (Ubuntu) "netplan should allow NICs to be disconnected and not stall the boot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1619258
[15:34] <slangasek> so I think the conclusion is that we do take 1714301 for now, and leave 1619258 incoming until we see if it shakes out from those fixes or if it needs additional attention
[15:35] <slangasek> anything else on bugs?
[15:35] <ogra_> i think 1619258 is a special case (systemd-networkd in xenial)
[15:36] <ogra_> (might indeed be the same issue in the end)
[15:36] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
[15:36] <slangasek> anything else on not-bugs?
[15:37] <sil2100> https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-archive-tools/kernel-sru-review-esm/+merge/330212 <- need some review eyes here ;)
[15:37] <doko> slangasek: glibc transition
[15:37] <sil2100> Although seeing that I'm the only user of this script, might as well just merge it
[15:37] <sil2100> (so far)
[15:38] <slangasek> sil2100: is that different than the one apw asked me for review of?
[15:38] <sil2100> slangasek: not sure, maybe it's the same - there's only one esm support branch I think
[15:38] <doko> asking because I'd like to start a final test rebuild. which issues are essential to address before the migration
[15:39] <slangasek> doko: remind me if there's a technical reason that the rebuild test can't include -proposed?
[15:39] <sil2100> It's always useful to have someone looking through the code anyway, since when you're in it too long you stop noticing that things look strange
[15:40] <slangasek> sil2100: maybe you can get apw to review it :)
[15:40] <doko> slangasek: that's not we ship, and afaik that is not possible. for earlier test rebuild I had to do a separate test rebuild for each pocket
[15:40] <sil2100> I guess I could! Maybe he'd start using the script as well
[15:41] <slangasek> doko: but the normal archive builds always build /against/ -proposed; if we did that for the archive rebuild, that would surely give us what we want
[15:41] <doko> no, not the test rebuilds
[15:41] <slangasek> doko: and then you could decouple the start of the rebuild from the proposed-migration blockages
[15:42] <slangasek> doko: well in any case, I am working on drilling down through the remaining failures
[15:42] <slangasek> doko: my goal is EOD
[15:42] <doko> sounds good. I'd like to catch cj watson tomorrow to create the test rebuilds before his EOW
[15:43] <slangasek> #endmeeting
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[15:43] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Sep 14 15:43:40 2017 UTC.
[15:43] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-09-14-15.02.moin.txt
[15:43] <slangasek> thanks, folks!
[15:44] <sil2100> Thanks o/
[15:45] <rbalint> o/
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