[05:33] <cpaelzer> good morning
[06:28] <RageLtMan> is autopilot/landscape getting deprecated? conjure-up seems to have dropped support for it
[10:13] <stokachu> RageLtMan: Autopilot is transitioning to conjure-up. This is due to the greater flexibility provided by conjure-up and the integration of additional products such as Kubernetes alongside OpenStack.
[10:47] <rh10> guys, is there packages with full official docs and wiki? help.ubuntu.com and wiki. for offline usage
[16:46] <nilay> Any Ubuntu server dev here? I need small help in finding packages that come with the Ubuntu server edition. I found a link for 16.04 package list https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/allpackages but not sure if all of them are part of server edition.
[16:47] <andol> nilay: Are you asking about packages being availible or packages being installed as the default install?
[16:48] <nacc> nilay: ubuntu is ubuntu (server and desktop are just differnt default pakcages)
[16:50] <lordcirth_work> Well, desktop install contains some unpackaged files, I think?
[16:51] <nacc> lordcirth_work: i don't believe that's true, or i don't understand what you mean
[16:52] <lordcirth_work> nacc, I could be wrong.  I do know that just installing ubuntu-desktop package on server will not get you everything in an Ubuntu Desktop install.
[16:53] <nilay> packages that get installed by default in server edition
[16:54] <nilay> sorry for unclear query @andol
[16:57] <powersj> You should read about the seed's, which are the list of pkgs that determine what go into desktop versus server
[16:57] <powersj> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement
[17:01] <nacc> lordcirth_work: ah yes, there are bits and pieces of glue (but also that might imply bugs in the ubuntu-desktop metapackage)
[17:01] <nacc> lordcirth_work: those bits and pieces of glue are in packages still
[18:17] <sarnold> nilay: the ubuntu-dev-tools package has the seeded-in-ubuntu tool which can answer those kinds of questions
[18:25] <rh10> guys, which more truly way to create share disk among linux (ubuntu) systems? samsa as i know mostly for windows os compatible
[18:25] <nacc> rh10: "more truly"?
[18:26] <rh10> nacc, more native or so on?
[18:26] <rh10> samba* sorry for typo
[18:26] <nacc> rh10: nfs
[18:26] <nacc> but good luck setting it up :)
[18:26] <rh10> nacc, why?:) mostly i need shared files for 3-4 machines
[18:26] <nacc> rh10: why what?
[18:27] <rh10> nacc, why goo luck? :) is it difficult or buggy?
[18:27] <rh10> good*
[18:27] <nacc> rh10: it can be difficult to get right
[18:27] <rh10> new keyboard
[18:28] <rh10> nacc, what are the alternatives? :)
[18:29] <nacc> rh10: run a SAN, buy a NAS, setup NFS, setup Samba
[18:30] <rh10> nacc, got it:)
[18:30] <rh10> i thought maybe something like webdav or so on exists
[18:31] <nacc> why would you ever setup webdav to share files between 3 or 4 machines
[18:31] <sarnold> you'll probably hate nfs the least but it does require getting userids exactly the same on all machines
[18:31] <nacc> rh10: alternatively, use sshfs?
[18:32] <rh10> nacc, dont know, just finding possible options
[18:32] <rh10> sarnold, got it, tnanks for info
[18:33] <rh10> nacc, probably yes. i've forgot about it :)
[18:34] <sarnold> sshfs is tolerable enough for small stuff
[18:35] <lordcirth_work> sshfs is pretty good these days
[18:35] <lordcirth_work> Not sure how well it handles multiple clients, but for 1 it's fast.
[18:38] <rh10> tnanks for answers guys!
[18:39]  * dpb1 uses samba, it's kindof... lowest common denominator
[18:42] <compdoc> samba is awesome goodness
[18:48] <nacc> sarnold: yeah, i figured with only 3 clients (total of 4 computers)
[20:21] <RoyK> rh10: well, the manuals are there - the wiki I don't know
[20:29] <hehehe_off> https://github.com/alibaba/tengine
[20:29] <hehehe_off> sarnold u seen it?
[20:38] <lordcirth_work> hehehe_off, I wonder why they forked, instead of contributing to nginx?
[20:40] <hehehe_off> no idea - just saw it
[21:31] <tomreyn> i tried to clean up https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1667113 a little, but would appreciate someone with a better bug triage understanding to fix it up more.
[21:57] <sarnold> hehehe_off: no, I haven't seen this before
[21:58] <sarnold> lordcirth_work: I'm going to guess it's a bit of nationalism; we've seen before a desire for chinese companies to have less reliance upon 'outside' forces, whatever they may be..
[21:58] <sarnold> pity they don't say what specifically they added vs nginx
[23:39] <Arroyo1010> Hello! I'm looking to see if the process used in the mysterious "Cloud Image Build System" is publicly available anywhere. It was hinted to me that this channel is the right place to ask.
[23:40] <Arroyo1010> Use case: add to Chef's "bento" project so the resulting Ubuntu images are more up-to-spec to upstream "cloud" variants
[23:48] <sarnold> Arroyo1010: indeed, but it's a bit late for europeans and pushing it for north americans..