[04:20] <markc> are there any Plasma 5.11 Beta packages anywhere (ppa) ?
[04:26] <acheronuk> markc: not outside our CI. I was thinking of maybe doing some over the weekend, though not sure about putting them anywhere public, formally at least
[04:28] <markc> ‎acheronuk‎: please do if you can find the time, I for one would be happy to test them
[04:28] <acheronuk> markc: what release are you testing on?
[04:29] <markc> ‎acheronuk‎: kubuntu artful
[04:30] <acheronuk> ok, that may be the most doable
[04:31] <markc> kscreen improvements sound very interesting, I use a 4K TV as my main monitor
[04:32] <markc> atm, the only noticable bug I have is that my autohide panel keeps flashing and popping up by itself, other than that, all seems good
[04:32] <acheronuk> ok. I will try some builds later. if they seem ok, I'll copy somewhere public
[04:33] <acheronuk> sadly I've not got anything 4k to test with yet :/
[04:34] <markc> ‎acheronuk‎: sounds excellent, I guess I should hang around here and try and catch a msg from you about where the packages can be fetched from
[04:35] <markc> ‎acheronuk‎: just ask for any 4K screenshots or simplescreenrecorder sessions
[04:35] <acheronuk> markc: artful BTW, will release with 5.10.5, as there is simply not time to get 5.11.x with sufficient buxfix releases in before the archive freeze, but hope to have it in backports fairly quick
[04:37] <acheronuk> I am always here. or at least always present in the channel. you can linger, or I can email?
[04:39] <markc> ‎acheronuk‎: I'll try and hang around but certainly email markc@renta.net if you care to
[04:40] <markc> ‎acheronuk‎: FWIW my very first test screencast -> https://markc.blog/public/20170813_Screencast01_2160p.mp4 (or the 1080p version)
[04:40] <acheronuk> ok. whichever. launchpad ppas will ahve some downtime for maintenance this evening, but hopefully that will be short as planned and won't get in the way
[04:42] <acheronuk> oh. I'll have a look later :)
[08:52] <grahamperrin[m]> Messed-up titles in the screenshot at <https://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=107875>, has anyone seen those symptoms before?
[08:52] <grahamperrin[m]> Or is it just me with 5.10.95? <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384760>
[08:53] <grahamperrin[m]> Sorry, that URL should have been https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384760
[10:09] <luc4> Hello! Anyone who has ever installed linux on a usb drive on a macbook?
[10:28] <TimApple> Is there a reason to run Kubuntu instead of neon? Or can you get the neon packages in kubunutu?
[10:41] <luc4> TimApple: are you talking to me?
[10:42] <TimApple> Was asking  to the general room.
[10:43] <luc4> there is if you don’t want to have old packages
[10:44] <luc4> most of the time that is ok if you are a regular user
[10:45] <TimApple> Gotcha
[10:45] <TimApple> Old packages being neon? Since it' based on the LTS?
[10:46] <TimApple> Or Kubuntu since it doesn't have the latest KDE?
[10:47] <luc4> neon
[10:47] <luc4> for kubuntu you have backports
[10:48] <luc4> you are not far behind
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[14:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:19] <acheronuk> markc: ping
[15:08] <DougieL> good morning folks
[15:09] <BluesKaj> 'Morning DougieL
[15:10] <DougieL> How are yo BluesKaj ?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> fine here DougieL, and you?
[15:14] <DougieL> BluesKaj good here... don't want to jinx it but I am getting my computers back to normal - Every release (or even every install) is getting harder) actually just making the usb installers is the pain as the dvd hardware is failing
[15:16] <BluesKaj> DougieL, yeah, I bought a cheap chinese made usb-powerd-outboard cdrom for a backup since my laptop cdrom fails intermittently
[15:18] <markc> acheronuk: all seems good with your packages. Desktop is excellent with icons spread out evenly and the new system settings layout is very impressive
[15:18] <acheronuk> :)
[15:20] <acheronuk> excellent. if you find any bugs that look like a KDE issue from the beta, rather than a packaging issue, the place to search &/or report is bugs.kde.org
[15:21] <DougieL> BluesKaj I was thinking I should do that but currently have a freeze on computer purchases - LOL
[15:28] <markc> ‎acheronuk: FWIW -> https://markc.blog/public/20170917_Plasma_5.10.95_4K.jpg
[15:28]  * acheronuk looks
[15:29] <acheronuk> X11?
[15:30] <markc> yes, just plain old x11, I'll try wayland tomorrow
[15:30] <acheronuk> cool.
[15:31] <acheronuk> markc: packages are now copying to: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/beta
[15:32] <markc> oh, I am not using scaling, I just put the font dpi up to 248 and increase the icon sizes. Much sharper, 1px borders stay at 1px etc
[15:36] <acheronuk> I may need to re-use the ninja ppa for other stuff, hence copying accross. so be prepared to switch ppas ;)
[15:38] <markc> ‎acheronuk‎: yep, just changed my sources.list and updated again, all good. Excellent job with the packaging :) My bottom panel still flashes but that would be a plasma bug.
[15:40] <acheronuk> thanks. :)
[15:47] <markc> Interesting, I now feel confident enough with kscreen and the Display settings to use my laptop LCD as a secondary monitor and put konsole on all desktops (I use 6 desktops)
[15:48] <markc> The systemsettings layout is really good, less clicks to get something done!
[15:50] <markc> time to snooze, again, many thanks for your efforts, I'm sure quite a few folks will be happy :)
[15:50] <acheronuk> great. hopefully some useful feedback to KDE devs will come from it as well :)
[21:26] <racin_d> hi all