[00:00] <pauljw> wb Bashing-om :)
[00:03] <Bashing-om> pauljw: Thankee - still trying to regain my breath :) Push mowers did not used to be that hard !
[00:04] <pauljw> lol, they do get harder over time, glad I don't have to mow that way.  bad enough weed whipping before getting on the lawn tractor... :)
[00:08] <Bashing-om> pauljw: This is the reel type mower . Human powered .. I get fed up with every time I look for gas - the kids have found a better use . Then I gots to go to town to refil the utility can :(
[00:10] <pauljw> Bashing-om, that's hard core right there.  they do make a nice cut though.  hope you don't have a big lawn.
[00:10] <TJ-> Ahhh,see, the solution is to harness the kids to the mower like Huskies, to pull it :)
[00:12] <Bashing-om> TJ-: UH HUh ! // be amazed what I have had the kids doing // not yet to the point of doing the cow thing with thier teeth :)
[00:13] <TJ-> :D
[00:14] <TJ-> treadmill to generate power and go off-grid :)
[00:15] <Bashing-om> UHHHH .. wonderful thought / what to use instead of the carrot ?
[00:15] <TJ-> iphone?
[00:15] <Bashing-om> Yes ! oh yes ! will test tomorrow !
[00:16] <TJ-> :D
[04:56] <Bashing-om> 'Nuf - no more to say
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:17] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[05:17] <EriC^^> how's it going?
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> just woke up and big rain here
[05:17] <EriC^^> aha cool
[05:17] <EriC^^> it was raining here yesterday for the first time
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> you doing ok EriC^^ ?
[05:18] <EriC^^> yeah good here
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> did you fix the router prob?
[05:18] <EriC^^> nope not yet just woke up :D
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> kk
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> some routers/modems can also be broken and need a new one from isp
[05:20] <EriC^^> that would suck
[05:21] <EriC^^> i've been working a little on the youtubextras site, would appreciate opinions/feedback
[05:22] <EriC^^> wanna give it a go?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> sure
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> whats the url EriC^^
[05:26] <EriC^^> http://www.youtubextras.com
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: looks pretty nice mate
[05:29] <EriC^^> try this https://www.youtubextras.com/watch?v=gc7nRulc9gM
[05:29] <EriC^^> has not so many comments
[05:30] <lotuspsychje_> EriC^^: perhaps i would place the url bar in middle of screen
[05:30] <EriC^^> i want to put a kind of pop up over the red like button that has "Added to the top useful comments" after clicking, and let it change the cursor hovering over it
[05:30] <EriC^^> in the middle of the navbar?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje_> EriC^^: lil bit confusing the show all bar
[05:31] <lotuspsychje_> where the show all/show more is
[05:31] <EriC^^> you mean instead of the showall image stuff putting the url get comments button?
[05:32] <lotuspsychje_> yea
[05:32] <EriC^^> that's interesting
[05:32] <lotuspsychje_> many sites use centered url bar
[05:32] <EriC^^> yeah
[05:32] <lotuspsychje_> like hidemyass or whatever
[05:33] <EriC^^> i could put it below the image, or do you think the image is confusing etc?
[05:33] <lotuspsychje_> EriC^^: yeah the example is a bit confusing
[05:33] <lotuspsychje_> EriC^^: first look i wanted to paste in there
[05:34] <EriC^^> aha
[05:34] <lotuspsychje_> EriC^^: users are used of a searchfunction in the navbar instead of url paste
[05:34] <EriC^^> yeah that's true
[05:35] <EriC^^> i could put it in the nav bar later if it's getting the comments for instance but on the first page in the middle so they know what to do
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> yeah nice idea
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: another idea, could be integrate a youtube search bar to get the url you need?
[05:36] <EriC^^> that would be sweet
[05:36] <EriC^^> maybe it's possible
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: is reading comments something ppl do alot?
[05:36] <EriC^^> what do you think about the "useful" button?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> that part i dont know alot of
[05:37] <EriC^^> they do read comments, but i dont think they'd use the site to get them all, probably just very specific needs cases
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> usefull button?
[05:37] <EriC^^> like searching for some info about the video, or maybe they need all the comments cause it's like a very technical tutorial or something
[05:38] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: yeah, did you load the second link?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: yes, then what?
[05:39] <EriC^^> if a comment is useful, has some important info about the video then the user can tag it as useful with the red like button, it gets added to the list to the right
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> thats nice EriC^^
[05:40] <EriC^^> so someone else uses the link and sees it there and doesn't need to search for the info maybe he needed that info or also he could learn something new maybe
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: will it store those comments for next user?
[05:41] <EriC^^> yup
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> wow fancy
[05:41] <EriC^^> it sorts them according to how many useful likes it got
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: i bets thats interesting for the youtube url owners
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: perhaps make your title a bit bigger and centered too?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> like google
[05:43] <EriC^^> which one?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> YOUTUBEXTRAS
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> and then the url pastebox
[05:43] <EriC^^> oh
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: your logo in left corner
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> i bet that would be fancy
[05:44] <EriC^^> what do you think about the comments layout stuff
[05:44] <EriC^^> https://www.youtubextras.com/watch?v=gc7nRulc9gM
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: those are nice
[05:45] <EriC^^> the comments shadow on the right, and the top comments box, the back to youtube button and top and the useful buttons, i made it small i didnt want it too distracting but still kind of catches attention to press it
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: buttons are very usefull top and go back
[05:46] <EriC^^> i was thinking to do a size for the top comment box so it doesn't go below the video frame to the otehr comments (on a huge list it got pretty distracting comments left and right) and put an expand list button on it
[05:46] <EriC^^> aha
[05:46] <EriC^^> color do you think red or gray like the get comments button?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> red is nice
[05:46] <EriC^^> was thinking to switch it to red when it gets hovered on
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> reminds of youtube right
[05:46] <EriC^^> yeah exactly
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> would leave it red
[05:47] <EriC^^> aha cool
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: but once a user in the comments url, he doesnt need the url search field anymore right?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> go back and re-enter a new one?
[05:48] <EriC^^> he does
[05:48] <EriC^^> the url is at the top to the right
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> yeah i know
[05:48] <EriC^^> you mean to also put it in the center?
[05:48] <EriC^^> above the video maybe?
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> yeah would be better
[05:49] <EriC^^> hmm i could copy google's ass and put it in the navbar
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[05:50] <EriC^^> :D
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: just wondering, would your site load comments from other sites aswell?
[05:50] <EriC^^> nope just youtube, what did you have in mind?
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: was just brainstorming in myself , like omgubuntu
[05:50] <EriC^^> i want to make another site soon, i think this one would be more popular, but it's slightly illegal
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> ah
[05:51] <EriC^^> i've just wanted to make the youtube comments fetching tool for a while, one time i wanted some info, had to press search button for every and hit ctrl+f to get the info, thought it would come in handy
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[05:52] <EriC^^> youtube had a showall button before, they removed it for some reason
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> make it bigger logo real fancy :p
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> love the colored title
[05:52] <EriC^^> yeah definitely need some nice logo and branding kind of stuff
[05:52] <EriC^^> the twitter page is sad
[05:52] <EriC^^> xD
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:53] <EriC^^> the other site i want to do gets the mp3 of a video
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> also nice
[05:53] <EriC^^> i looked at other sites, they're making like $4000 minimum (the lousiest ones)
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> wow
[05:53] <EriC^^> the youtube-mp3.com makes $50,000 per day
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> oO
[05:54] <EriC^^> i want to make a site that gets the mp3, but has a feature no other site has
[05:54] <EriC^^> it lets you choose in the video from where to start the mp3 and where to end
[05:54] <EriC^^> so if you're watching an agt video for instance or the voice etc you can get just the song part and have it as an mp3
[05:54] <EriC^^> i think it would do good as a site
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> but not sure if thats legal?
[05:55] <EriC^^> and the site layout is pretty easy nothing difficulty about it
[05:55] <EriC^^> yeah that's the shitty part why i'm kind of hesitant
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> think you could get in trouble for that
[05:56] <EriC^^> it's so useful though
[05:56] <EriC^^> haha
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> unless you find a way to warn users about illegality for the country,
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> to wash your hands clean
[05:56] <EriC^^> many people listen to agt and so many shows (me myself a huge fan) and downloading part of the video just couple clicks would be awesome
[05:56] <EriC^^> hmm
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> if someone places an illegal vid on youtube, thats not your prob right?
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> your online give the user a possible download?
[05:57] <EriC^^> according to youtube-mp3.com google sent them a letter that their lawyers will make a lawsuit if they dont remove the site, they're still running made a lot of court stuff, they're germany based
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:58] <EriC^^> i was thinking i could maybe put a filter just to download videos that have agt in them or the voice etc
[05:58] <EriC^^> dunno if the shows would complain too though who knows
[05:58] <EriC^^> copyright and shit
[05:58] <EriC^^> they'll think now they get less views people can just listen to the mp3 when they wanna hear the song
[05:58] <EriC^^> the mess of capitalism
[05:59] <EriC^^> xD
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> its remains risky
[05:59] <EriC^^> anyways the money in it is crazy though, i saw like 10 sites that offer mp3 download service, 50,000 40,000 30,000 the shittiest are 4,000 / day i think
[05:59] <EriC^^> that's crazy
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: unless you would script something, the user would execute himself lol
[06:00] <EriC^^> https://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/youtube-mp3.org/
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: like: script your own convert video to mp3 without mentioning a specific site
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> your only a medium site then
[06:01] <EriC^^> 53million page views per day wtf
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:01] <EriC^^> that's $50,000-100,000 per day
[06:01] <EriC^^> yeah mine would be very small
[06:01] <EriC^^> if it makes $600 a month i'd be happy though
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: http://www.youtubeinmp3.com/tos/
[06:02] <EriC^^> i was thinking maybe if google sends an email to close the website i just close it
[06:02] <EriC^^> or maybe it'll be so small they wont care even
[06:03] <EriC^^> aha
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> omg there like tons of converters
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> http://convert2mp3.net/en/
[06:03] <EriC^^> do you think it matters if the site has ads or not?
[06:03] <EriC^^> yeah i know right
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: ads can bring you $$$
[06:03] <EriC^^> yeah
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> https://savetomp3.com/terms
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> https://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/copyright-notice
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> think you just need a copyright text
[06:05] <EriC^^> yeah come to think of it, the site would be pretty small, why would they even bother (google)
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: well something get bothered, when alot of users find it
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: a good trick is to integrate meta in your site, to get your site ontop of google
[06:06] <EriC^^> yeah that's a problem i'm facing with youtubextras
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> something simple, good name & logo
[06:06] <EriC^^> i think noway it shows up in google :/
[06:07] <EriC^^> i tried to add it to google's stuff, applied somewhere and stuff and put meta tags
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: metatag comments,youtube,search,url stuff like that
[06:07] <EriC^^> it's not anywhere in google if i search for "youtube download all comments"
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> when i google youtube comments, doesnt give me your site
[06:08] <EriC^^> yup nothin
[06:08] <EriC^^> maybe it depends on pageviews too?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> no
[06:09] <EriC^^> when the site is done, i'll spam it in the related videos
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> its all about those metas
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> ive made some google bloggers in the past
[06:09] <EriC^^> hmm but i put the exact same metas of that site that comes up in the search
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> and they auto enable tags in their code
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: what tool you manage that site?
[06:10] <EriC^^> <meta name="description" content="Show all comments of a YouTube video.">
[06:10] <EriC^^>     <meta name="keywords" content="YouTube,Comment,Comments,Scrape,Download,Research,Analysis,Digital Humanities,Tool,Extras,All Comments">
[06:10] <EriC^^> those are the stuff i copied
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> too many keywords i think?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> try comments youtube
[06:11] <EriC^^> it's the same as what the guy had *shrug*
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> ah
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: you got a website manager?
[06:11] <EriC^^> nope
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: how you edit the site then?
[06:12] <EriC^^> gedit on my pc, then scp to the ubuntu server
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: hows that file named where you edit the metas?
[06:12] <EriC^^> index.php
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> lemme look up
[06:13] <EriC^^> ok
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> seems like your doing it good
[06:15] <EriC^^> ok good to know
[06:15] <EriC^^> i guess its some google magic shit
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> https://yoast.com/meta-descriptions/
[06:17] <EriC^^> interesting stuff
[06:17] <EriC^^> brb to make coffee
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/35624?hl=en
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> this what i get from blogger
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> there's a metafield easy, to add keywords
[06:29] <EriC^^> back
[06:29] <EriC^^> cool thanks
[06:30] <EriC^^> google must be a beast
[06:30] <EriC^^> anyways thanks for the input man! appreciate it
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> np EriC^^
[06:32] <ducasse> morning all
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[06:33]  * ducasse yawns
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:33] <EriC^^> hey ducasse
[06:33] <ducasse> hi EriC^^, lotuspsychje
[06:33] <ducasse> how are you guys?
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> lazy before work bah
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> but its rainy, so good for work yay
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> means less customers come eat
[06:34] <EriC^^> good , having some coffee :D
[06:35] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: i've been kind of obsessed with doing pizza lately
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: making or order?
[06:35] <EriC^^> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCAPjIVOdJw
[06:35] <EriC^^> this guy is INSANE
[06:36] <EriC^^> his pizza is great and easy to make
[06:36] <ducasse> mmm... pizza... *drool*
[06:36] <EriC^^> making myself, i made maybe every other day for 2 weeks lol
[06:36] <EriC^^> also his mozarella sticks are very yummy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPB4czHITmI
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> looking delicious mm
[06:37] <EriC^^> the pizza is to die for though, i really recommend if you like a fluffy kind of pizza that soft and feels like bread with nice crust that's crunchy
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: we make pizza real easy here, buy lebanese/turkish bread cut in 2 halfs
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> and put spâghetti sauce and toppings, done
[06:39] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: here lots of people eat something called "mankoushi" it's very good dunno if you know it
[06:39] <EriC^^> it's like a pizza sort of but just with a certain type of cheese or it can have on it zaatar, i dunno the english word
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> no dont know
[06:41] <EriC^^> http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c54.0.971.971/17438448_419613615077054_7711600285180755968_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQ4NDYwNzQ2MzAwODU0MDAxMQ%3D%3D.2.c
[06:41] <EriC^^> the cheese is very very salty
[06:41] <ducasse> EriC^^: did you consider also registering youtubeextras.com?
[06:41] <EriC^^> ducasse: it's taken already
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> never seen that
[06:41] <ducasse> petter@odin:~ $ whois youtubeextras.com
[06:41] <ducasse> No match for domain "YOUTUBEEXTRAS.COM".
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> -E
[06:42] <EriC^^> this is zaatar https://www.maureenabood.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Manoushe-2-Maureen-Abood.jpg
[06:42] <EriC^^> it's like olive oil and some seeds
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> mmm
[06:43] <EriC^^> i dont like it that much though, i prefer the one with cheese, it's ok though
[06:43] <EriC^^> it's like the typical lebanese breakfast
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> i like turkish style pizza boats
[06:44] <EriC^^> ducasse: hmm on the namecheap site they said it's taken i think, i'll check again now
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> https://i0.wp.com/lauraswildkitchen.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/6519.jpg
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> mmmm
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: did you want the +E domain?
[06:44] <EriC^^> yummy
[06:45] <EriC^^> hmm both are fine i guess
[06:45] <ducasse> EriC^^: pretty sure that would be the 'proper' spelling *shrug*
[06:45] <EriC^^> i'd take both in case somebody typos would be nice
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:45] <ducasse> exactly
[06:45] <EriC^^> it's more shorthanded with just x i guess, still works
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> i like the X one
[06:46] <EriC^^> basically if somebody is in youtube.com he has to type "xtras" after youtube and press enter to load the video
[06:46] <ducasse> it bugs my ocd ;)
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> smart move EriC^^
[06:47] <EriC^^> yeah i always liked that site before that had a similar feature
[06:48] <EriC^^> i think that one got the mp3 though
[06:48] <EriC^^> youtubeyolo or something :D
[06:48] <EriC^^> that turkish bread thing looks delicious, eggs too
[06:49] <EriC^^> what's that black stuff? some kind of meat?
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> looks like porc i think
[06:50] <EriC^^> yum
[06:50] <EriC^^> makes me wish you can 3d print food or something haha
[06:51] <EriC^^> d/l food, medium hotness , enter
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:51] <EriC^^> someday in the future maybe who knows :D
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> mycroft make pizza! haha
[06:51] <EriC^^> haha
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: to late, its exist wtf..
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> https://3dprinting.com/food/
[06:53] <ducasse> i want to try cooking bulgur some day, but i need to find out what spices people use
[06:54] <EriC^^> lol!
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: bulgur is very healthy
[06:54] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: it's tasty, too :)
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: in most cases grains of that sort, they dont use much spices on it unless like salt/onion/tamari
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: its what you serve next to it, that can be spiced alot
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> like couscous,quinoa,rice,etc
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> side dishes are endless
[06:57] <ducasse> i know, but every time i've been served it in restaurants it's had some sort of flavoring
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: dunno the exact word for it, but like a vegetable cube
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> to melt in the water
[06:58] <ducasse> i know what you mean, maybe that's all...
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> yeah, else it would get overspiced
[06:59] <ducasse> i'll ask next time i'm at that restaurant :)
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> you still need the natural flavor of the grain
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> you guys got me hungry grrr
[07:01] <ducasse> it wasn't me that started this!
[07:01] <ducasse> :)
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> http://michaelpsilakis.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/bulgharsalad.jpg
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> mmmm
[07:04] <ducasse> i think there will be an early dinner today, or a big lunch :)
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> breakfast bbl :p
[07:09] <ducasse> enjoy!
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> have a nice day ducasse EriC^^ off to work :p
[08:17] <immu> hi good morning
[08:17] <immu> all *.*
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:32] <ducasse> greetings, BluesKaj
[14:32] <ducasse> enjoying your weekend?
[14:33] <BluesKaj> Hi ducasse, yes I amm, and you/
[14:33] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:33] <oerheks> Hello friends :-)
[14:33] <ducasse> trying to type with a cat halfway on top of the laptop :)
[14:34] <BluesKaj> hi oerheks
[14:34] <BluesKaj> gonna be warm day here, sunny and 27
[14:38] <TJ-> Grrrrr
[14:38]  * TJ- looks at the rain on the window and shivers
[14:39] <ducasse> been nice and sunny here as well - surprising, really.
[14:39] <BluesKaj> TJ-, our summer finally arrived, july and aug were abnormally wet  here
[14:40] <TJ-> we've had a terrible summer, high-winds and lots of rain. In fact we've still got 2 fields of spring Barley we can't combine because it's not dried out enough.
[14:40] <TJ-> At this rate we'll be combining in October!
[14:41] <TJ-> We think we're in for a severe early winter because many trees have been shedding leaves since at least 6 weeks ago
[14:44] <BluesKaj> TJ-, where are you located?
[14:45] <TJ-> East Midlands, England
[14:45] <TJ-> There was a scorching hot spell early June and then cold, rain, and winds
[14:46]  * BluesKaj nods ...400KM North of Toronto here
[15:03] <BluesKaj> Hi er
[15:03] <BluesKaj> HI EriC^^
[15:35] <EriC^^> hi BluesKaj
[16:35] <oerheks> oh man, that kobaz is a pain in the ***
[17:46] <ducasse> oerheks: hehe, almost sad i missed that one :)
[18:31] <oerheks> ducasse, look again, mister wants to win
[18:33] <oerheks> sometimes i like to be op.. grrr
[18:33] <ducasse> "just because it challanges norms of culteral thinking"
[18:33] <ducasse> pffft
[18:42] <oerheks> sigh.. another faulty help:  .xinitrc
[18:42] <oerheks> can someone remove that guy?
[18:43] <oerheks> giving ubuntu a bad name, if others follow that useless advise
[18:44] <ducasse> i hope he loses interest and goes away soon.
[18:45] <ducasse> why do these people suddenly come in and decide they can answer every question, and not listen to feedback?
[18:46] <oerheks> lonely people, i guess
[20:18] <EriC^^> hey pauljw
[20:18] <pauljw> hi EriC^^ :)