[00:05] dpkg: warning: 'start-stop-daemon' not found in PATH or not executable [00:05] anyone know of fix? [00:05] can't install daemon without "start-stop-daemon".... [00:05] so... catch 22 i guess? [00:09] SaltyCatFish: which release is that on? start-stop daemon is an old service helper for sysinit but most services use systemd now [00:12] How would one go about adding a button to the top bar in unity? [00:13] I'd like to add a couple to rotate the screen 90degrees clock and anti-clock. [00:13] There is one vaguely similar app out there for ubuntu, but it was buggy for me http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/rotate-screen-ubuntu-16-04-indicator-applet [00:14] multifractal: could you attach a hot-key combo to a script as an alternative, or do you have to have icons? [00:15] TJ-: Hey sorry just happened after last update [00:15] TJ- yeah I want icons because the goal is to use it when the screen is folded back in tablet mode (2-in-1 laptop) [00:15] Linux viktor 4.8.0-54-generic #57~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 24 16:22:28 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [00:16] multifractal: does the device have an accelerometer? I have a script on my tablet that detects the change in orientation and executes and xrandr command to rotate [00:16] TJ- yeah it has, it works in windows [00:16] SaltyCatFish: which ubuntu release - "lsb_release -a" [00:16] i just got pinged cause my name was just said [00:17] xrandr -d 0:0 -sleep [00:17] Linux Mint 18.1 Serena [00:17] 16.04 [00:17] SaltyCatFish: that's not Ubuntu, you'd need to ask the Mint support people [00:17] my bad [00:18] * xrandr sleeps [00:18] !mintsupport > SaltyCatFish [00:18] SaltyCatFish, please see my private message [00:23] TJ- Can you share your auto-rotate script? Do I need to install anything? [00:31] multifractal: I can't right now because I don't have that device to hand [00:32] ok im now in KDE plasma. got it to work [00:32] psychoticwarrior, any support issues? [00:32] multifractal: actually, I can, hang on a mo [00:34] multifractal: see https://linuxappfinder.com/blog/auto_screen_rotation_in_ubuntu [00:37] i think KDE plasma is alright [00:37] unity8 has bugs [00:37] psychoticwarrior, then file some bug [00:40] im good [00:40] what do you mean by file some [00:40] TJ- thanks. strange but it doesn't seem to be working for me [00:40] psychoticwarrior, then why mention it here in support [00:42] !bug | psychoticwarrior [00:42] psychoticwarrior: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [00:42] ok for sure i will do that [00:42] i noticed the sound woudnt work even though it says it does [00:46] im starting to like KDE plasma === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [01:57] why do i am always getting this error -> `bash: ./eclipse: Permission denied` (in this case is eclipse) [01:57] how can i fix it? [01:59] blacknred0: have you checked permissions on that dir? [02:00] venzen: dir "drwxr-xr-x" and file "-rwxr-xr-x" [02:01] blacknred0: and ownership? does it belong to your user? [02:01] venzen: yes and the group [02:02] blacknred0: add write permissions for your group with: chmod g+w ~/.eclipse [02:03] blacknred0: might as well do it recursively for the dir: chmod -R g+w ~/.eclipse [02:06] venzen: still :/ [02:06] if it helps, i just recently did a migration and my home is mounted on a ntfs filesystem [02:07] could it be that my fstab is screwing things up :/ [02:07] blacknred0: i remember having this issue in the past - Eclipse runs via Java and calls various other sub-systems so I believe another system user is invoked to access that dir [02:07] blacknred0: unlikely to be fstab [02:07] venzen: but is not just eclipse [02:08] is seems like is every script that i try running from bash [02:08] i tried looking online, but couldn't find something that would work [02:08] blacknred0: ok then check perms on your home dir [02:08] and ownership [02:09] here is my home "drwxrwxr-x" [02:09] it seems right to me [02:09] yep [02:10] and ownership is correct too? [02:10] yes [02:10] this is home "drwxr-xr-x" [02:11] that's as expected [02:11] what mount perms do you see if you run mount? [02:11] i know [02:11] this si really weird [02:12] venzen: this is what i have setup on my fstab "UUID=XXXXXX /home ntfs auto,users,permissions 0 2" [02:13] hmmm, ntfs... [02:13] i have no experience with ntfs but i suspect that is the issue [02:14] do you think? [02:14] based on what i found it seems that if i had users (to mount the partition) and permissions it will inherit from linux [02:15] i've got: UUID=xyz /home ext4 defaults 0 2 [02:16] that "2" at the end is important - specifying "1" is usually reserved for the root (/) fs [02:16] wtf [02:16] sorry, ignore what i said: you have 2 :) [02:16] ok, let me dig more about executing in ntfs [02:16] thanks mate!!! [02:17] sure, gl [02:17] blacknred0: if you're still in this channel, check the output of mount [02:18] venzen: how? [02:18] the home fs should be "rw" [02:18] just type: mount [02:21] venzen: this, right? "/dev/sdc1 on /home type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096)" [02:22] user_id=0 seems to imply it is owned by root user which is correct [02:22] if the mount perms are correct, try running Eclipse as root user: sudo eclipse [02:22] check the terminal output and see if you still get the permission error on .eclipse [02:23] venzen: something is going on... I can't even do it as sudo [02:24] let me move eclipse to my ext4 and see if will execute [02:24] i also found this which i'm going to try as well -> https://askubuntu.com/questions/952076/ntfs-hd-as-write-read-problem === leion1 is now known as leion [02:25] blacknred0: i think ntfs is the issue, sorry i cannot help with that [02:25] venzen: no worries, you help me narrowing it down - which is good enough for me :) [02:25] please post here if you get it fixed - i'm interested [02:26] will do ;) [02:26] gl! === JanC_ is now known as JanC [02:34] hi [02:34] :) [02:35] I have a question regarding TLP drivers for T430, I just bought a T430 and just installed Ubuntu on it... I was told that you need special drivers for it [02:39] hello? [02:41] !patience | JFox762 [02:41] JFox762: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [02:43] I have a question regarding TLP drivers for T430, I just bought a T430 and just installed Ubuntu on it... I was told that you need special drivers for it [02:43] I need help installing them [02:53] I have a question regarding TLP drivers for T430, I just bought a T430 and just installed Ubuntu on it... I was told that you need special drivers for it [02:53] I need help installing them [02:56] <[n0mad]> JFox762: repeating yourself isn't necessary. if nobody knows the answer then nobody will respond and it's the weekend as well so cooler people than us aren't just sitting on a computer. [02:56] <[n0mad]> is everything working on your computer? [02:56] yes [02:56] I read that I'm supposed to install Tlp drivers === leion1 is now known as leion [02:57] in order to keep Ubuntu from killing my battery [02:58] <[n0mad]> what version of ubuntu? [02:59] 17 [02:59] <[n0mad]> 17.04? [02:59] yes [03:00] <[n0mad]> https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-17-04/ [03:00] <[n0mad]> item #10 [03:17] Hello, I want to completely disable "Unattended Upgrades" in my laptop, sometimes when I open the lid after suspension the very first thing it does is go and start checking them, I have disabled "Automatic check for updates" in Synaptic, but it seems that it still checks for the unnatended upgrades because I can see the command running in conky taking up the CPU cycles, should I just remove the package "unattended-upgrades"? Thanks... [03:22] joegiampaoli: What is set for the autoremove setting in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades ? [03:25] Bashing-om: It seems to be commented out, it has // at the begining of the line... [03:27] Bashing-om: Actually the whole file seems to be commented out, all lines have the dashes... [03:27] well not dashes, actually slants "/" [03:28] Bashing-om: So, my question is, can that oackage be removed safely? [03:33] joegiampaoli: Yes, one ,au sagely revo,e . See ' apt show unattended-upgrades ' -> Priority: optional / [03:34] One may safely remove .. sheessshhh - watch what I am doing ! [03:34] Bashing-om: LOL! No worries, I kinda understood what you wrote there ;) [03:36] Bashing-om: OK, thanks! I will remove it, I always check updates often, I just don't want the laptop doing things automatically without me knowing, I like to be more in control of what and when to update... [03:37] Bashing-om: Alright! I really appreciate it! Take care! [03:39] I'm trying to install but I'm stuck at "force UEFI installation?" none of the buttons work [03:44] joegiampaoli: Same here . I want to know what updates . [03:48] yaya its a known bug [03:48] thats been open for a fucking year [03:49] gg guys [04:15] hi guys, I connected to microsoft server via smb://192.168.10.5 and server wanted user and pass for entring , how could I clear old user and pass and enter with new user and pass , it saved old user and pass while I did not put remember check mark? === Betonneklakske is now known as Garc [04:28] /msg NickServ VERIFY EMAILCHG yoginth 886280318 [04:30] hello all [04:30] how to become a moderator at Ubuntu's IRC [04:32] yoginth: /cs info #ubuntu [04:32] message the founder === xrandr_ is now known as xrandr [05:16] what's the best way to find and listen to internet radio on lubuntu? [05:17] i grew up on winamp / itunes that had internet radio compiled already [05:17] !info clementine | demophobia [05:17] demophobia: clementine (source: clementine): modern music player and library organizer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1+git276-g3485bbe43+dfsg-1 (zesty), package size 4301 kB, installed size 16179 kB [05:19] thanks lotuspsychje ... [05:20] How do I reset the colors to default values from Customize Look and Feel? i've accidentally made menu bars hard to read [05:20] demophobia: im sure there are more players you can listen radios from aswell [05:20] lotuspsychje, before asking i searched and found https://itsfoss.com/apps-internet-streaming-radio-ubuntu/ [05:21] demophobia: like vlc can stream url's from internet aswell [05:32] lotuspsychje, trying radiotray, but stations aren't loading [05:32] so maybe i'll try that next [05:39] does Ubuntu 17.04 not include workspaces? === KindTwo is now known as KindOne [05:41] does Ubuntu 17.04 not include workspaces? [05:43] JFox762, lubuntu 16.04 has virtual desktops [05:43] so i doubt there'd be a downgrade [05:43] Oh nevermind [05:43] I just didnt have it activated === snek is now known as hi-expectedjoy === hi-expectedjoy is now known as snek === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [07:23] guys, any good keyboard train program in ubuntu? for type with 10 fingers :) [07:29] googled https://www.tipp10.com/en/download/ [07:29] not bad, online and usual desktop software [07:30] https://askubuntu.com/questions/32276/are-there-any-good-typing-tutors [07:40] rh10: apt-cache search keyboard [07:52] does ubuntu have an ima server for checksums ? [07:52] tecan: 'ima' as in? [07:53] integrity management archatecture [07:53] does remote checksums to make sure system is as it should be [07:54] maybe that's "integrity measurement architecture"? [07:54] yes [07:55] i'm not into the concept, but https://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_30 "1.14. Integrity Management Architecture" mentions this [07:56] someone recommended to me ima over signed binary's [07:56] it seems to depend on a TPM [07:57] was going to modify binfmt_elf.c to use http://www.hick.org/code/skape/elfsign/ [07:58] hmm this is maybe more a topic for a development related channel === purist_ is now known as purist [08:01] for disctribution of binaries, gpg signing is the most common approach in linuxland. to ensure long term integrity you could use file alteration mointoring solutions such as ossec, aide, tripwire, integrit. [08:01] none of which depend on TPM === leion1 is now known as leion [09:17] Hi, I was wondering: why are the icons in Unity so big, with so much space around them? [09:17] It looks like it's made for children or people with eyesight trouble... [09:18] It all looks nice, but you loose so much space on your screen, I don't get it... [09:18] Any thoughts or proposed improvements for that? [09:19] (PS: just installed Ubuntu 17, after trying Xubuntu, Linux Mint, Elementary, OpenSUSE, Debian, ...) [09:26] Taxicletter: there's no "ubuntu 17", do you mean ubuntu 17.04? are you aware that unity is being dropped as the default desktop? === leion1 is now known as leion [09:29] Taxicletter, check your display settings e.g. screen resolution [09:35] Yes I mean 17.04 [09:35] Display settings are okay, thanks cfhowlett [09:35] Taxicletter, as of 17.10, unity will be gone so ... wait a month [09:35] https://imgur.com/a/nSJzX is this not the default desktop for Ubuntu? [09:36] Ah. OK. What will come instead? [09:36] gnome [09:37] I think in gnome the format and spacing are the same, isn't it? [09:37] also, icon size can be adjusted by clicking on the upper middle icon [09:37] What do you use? Unity, Gnome, something else? [09:37] i.e. view as list, detailed list or icons [09:38] Ah! Great, that's already much better :-) [09:38] thanks [09:38] happy2help! [09:39] So if I keep everything up-to-date, I will loose the Unity automatically? [09:39] In favor of Gnome. [09:39] update? no. upGRADE to 17.10? yep. [09:47] sudo apt-get upgrade [09:47] ok [10:10] Hi! Sorry for cross-posting... could someone have a look at this question please? https://askubuntu.com/questions/950066/ecryptfs-unmounts-ever-half-hour-or-so-after-home-partition-ran-full === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [11:09] venzen: i figured it out :) ... all i had to do was to pass "exec" since ntfs disable this by default [11:09] so my fstab will look like this -> "UUID=XXXXXX /home ntfs auto,users,permissions,exec 0 2" [11:10] who knew that by reading documentation you could achieve things :) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab) [11:14] Hi all [11:15] I've a issue with wifi connecting on a ubuntu 16.04 installed on a Brix [11:15] here's the prompt: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25546985/ [11:16] if anybody can help me [11:16] was it really necessary to use a pastebin service for one single line? [11:17] not really, it's true [11:18] is this line from the system log? [11:19] no, it's a prompt is open when I try to connect the wifi (I'm sorry if I use bad english term, I'm french) [11:21] When using "mount" command, if I want to specify multiple options, do I do like like this: mount -o nonempty -o allow_other [11:21] or like this: mount -o nonempty,allow_other [11:22] rory: i use the latter, but either should work [11:22] guizmax: is this a persistent issue? [11:23] yes it is [11:25] guizmax: please check "journalctl" for network related error messages [11:27] I check it [11:30] and/or "dmesg" === KindTwo is now known as KindOne [11:31] brainwash: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25547084/ [11:34] is it the line "no agents were available for this request" the problem? === Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass [11:34] maybe [11:35] it's marked as [11:35] so, it should only be a warning [11:35] but it could be the issue [11:36] which agent does it wait for? [11:36] a keyring one I guess [11:37] for passwords [11:38] ok, i've uninstall the password manager which is installed with ubuntu [11:38] well, you could try to ask in #nm [11:39] nm = networkmanager [11:39] the password manager? [11:39] yes, may be it's waiting for it [11:40] what is the name of the package? [11:40] the one you've uninstalled [11:41] I'm not sure but it is keyring I think (trousseau in French, I'm not sure for the english therm) [11:43] is gnome-keyring installed? [11:44] apt-cache policy gnome-keyring [11:44] it's installed [11:45] no idea then [11:46] if no one else here knows how to debug your problem, I suggest joining #nm [11:46] ok thank you brainwash [11:47] i've tried something and ubuntu show me a crash prompt [11:47] guizmax: it looks like NetworkManager doesn't have access to the secrets, obviously. Is the system headless/non-GUI - command shell only? [11:48] Hi TJ, no I use it with GUI [11:49] guizmax, standard ubuntu install ? [11:49] Hi ioria, yes, full standard 16.04 lts on a gigabyte birx 2807 computer [11:50] guizmax, ps -A | grep keyring [11:51] done, but nothing [11:51] guizmax, the daemon is not running [11:51] How can I check it? [11:52] guizmax, you have just checked it [11:52] okay, my bad XD [11:52] So, have I to activate the daemon? [11:53] guizmax, guess so ... [11:54] guizmax: I saw a similar issue recently where there was no policykit agent available, I had to ensure the package policykit-1 was installed so that /usr/bin/pkttyagent was present [11:55] guizmax, yeah, can you paste dpkg -l | grep policykit [11:55] I use the grep command on /usr/bin/pkttyagent for policykit-1 but no return [11:55] I try it [11:57] guizmax: Generally, NetworkManager expects an agent to be present. KDE and Gnome provide one themselves but other Desktop Environments may not [11:57] guizmax, can you paste dpkg -l | grep policykit [11:57] policykit is look like to be installed [11:58] ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25547245/ [12:01] blacknred0: great! glad you solved it :) [12:02] guizmax, try gnome-keyring-daemon --start --replace --foreground --components=secrets,ssh,pcks11 === ShalokShalom_ is now known as ShalokShalom [12:06] ioria: it tell me "gnome-keyring-daemon is unknown command" [12:07] So I guess I have to install it, right? [12:07] guizmax, which gnome-keyring-daemon [12:08] Hi, I have problems with a setup on a Microsoft Azure VM (with ubuntu server 16.04). [12:08] I want to forward the output of e.g. glxgears to my local machine. [12:08] I could manage to forward opengl apps with VirtualGL from another PC (common ubuntu workstation) to my local machine some time ago. [12:08] I don't know why this doesn't work inside the VM. Can someone help me with such a setup? [12:08] ioria, I don't know, I just type the command with sudo [12:08] guizmax, run in term ' which gnome-keyring-daemon ' [12:10] the standard one I suppose, I've install no more [12:11] guizmax, ls -l /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon [12:12] the file exist [12:12] guizmax, gnome-keyring-daemon -r -d [12:16] I try to run the command but It doesn't work [12:17] guizmax, what it says ? [12:17] gnome-keyring-daemon: can't found the command [12:18] guizmax, /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start [12:21] doesn't work too... it doesn't find the gnome-keyring-daemon command but the file exist [12:24] guizmax, why did you install this pkg : plainbox-secure-policy [12:24] it's drive me crazy, when I type my command it tell me "not permitted", when I use the root login It tell me the command doesn't exist [12:26] ioria, I don't remember when I've install it, may be when I've installed enpass [12:26] people, help with crons, how can i make cron execute a command twice a week? 00 20 * * 2 COMMAND? [12:28] guizmax, run nm-connection-editor -> edit -> General Tab and set the wifi available for all users [12:29] ioria: "Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged." [12:29] Is it normal? [12:29] acresearch: 'man 5 crontab' has detailed info on what the fields are [12:30] guizmax, you can open NM from its icon in the panel -> edit connections [12:30] ducasse: i know what is in each feild, but i do not understand how the weeks feild works [12:30] done, I've set the wifi connection for every users [12:30] guizmax, reboot [12:31] okay, I try to be back XD [12:34] ducasse: also would the scrip the command runs has to be in the home directory? [12:40] acresearch: it's not 'week', it's 'day of week'. the script can be anywhere as long as you use an absolute path [12:40] oh [12:40] hmmmm, ok [12:43] °_° [12:44] ioria: It work! [12:44] guizmax, heureux [12:45] yeah! thank you so much! [12:45] guizmax, it's a workaround, not the fix .... [12:46] how, okay. Well, is a fix exist for this issues? [12:47] guizmax, afaik, your gnome-keyring daemon is not running, and should find out why [12:48] have I to try to make a new install of it? [12:51] I've try ton apt-get install gnome-keyring, it tell me it's the latest version of it which is installed [12:51] 3.18.3-0 ubuntu2 [12:51] guizmax, please paste dpkg -l | grep gnome-keyring [12:53] ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25547551/ [12:54] guizmax, looks good to me [12:55] sy, brb [12:55] if I reboot now and the issue is fixed, normaly it still working? [12:59] ioria: am I right? [13:13] ioria: three reboot and it still working, does it smell good? [13:14] oui guizmax [13:15] you speak french? XD [13:15] !fr [13:15] Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [13:16] you have your answer guizmax [13:16] yes, thank so much for your help [13:17] 09/16/17 14:55:45 < *ioria> guizmax, looks good to me [13:17] ,o [13:19] thank you ioria, beaver and mvvvv for your help, I have a lot of stuff to learn about linux and ubuntu [13:20] eheh, avoids postcrossing next time guizmax, please [13:21] Okay, my apologize [13:21] np [13:23] is there a icloud client for ubuntu [13:23] so i can access files from my icloud drive [13:23] pretty sure no [13:23] I need help properly fixing automatic updates on my Ubuntu server. [13:24] It appears that it *does* automatically update, but it won't automatically reboot for updates that require it. [13:24] I also don't get e-mail notifications about automatically applied updates. :/ [13:25] !server | k_sze_, never heard of a server doing auto-reboot perhaps ask the experts in the server channel [13:25] k_sze_, never heard of a server doing auto-reboot perhaps ask the experts in the server channel: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/servergui [13:25] There's a server channel? I never realised. [13:27] I think defaults are to install security update automatically, but not to reboot. I dont know, but the settings might allow rebooting. [13:29] k_sze_: you can set that in the unattended-upgrades config [13:30] k_sze_: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades [13:30] Hmm, what's the difference between that and "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades"? [13:32] They are clearly different, but related. I just ran dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades and it created a new 20auto-upgrades file. [13:32] I wonder why they even need to be separate files. [13:34] I have Unattended-Upgrade::Mail "root,admin@mydomain.com"; in 50unattended-upgrades, but I'm not receiving any mail. [13:35] I also have Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot "true"; already. [13:37] And I *do* get the /var/run/reboot-required file. [13:37] Is there a workaround for the USN-2639-1 (June 2015) change to openssl where it requires a minimum DH key size of 768 bits? This has broken access to several data-center appliances with embedded web servers using SSLv3/TLS1.0 where the firmware DH key size in the server key exchange is only 512 bits. There aren't any firmware upgrades for these aged devices. [13:40] TJ-: Use an older version of openssl (in a chroot, container, or VM)? [13:40] But that's really not recommended in the long run. [13:40] Who owns the data centre appliances? [13:42] k_sze_: I do. They're KVM-over-IP devices (Avocent DSR2020), presenting a Java Webstart viewer over an encrpyted connection, which uses this firmware embedded key. [13:43] k_sze_: affects other devices too, but mostly there are unencrypted connection alternatives for those [13:44] k_sze_: It's looking like my best course is to recompile openssl with the 768-bit DH key size restriction removed [13:44] Ah, KVM-over-IP. Well, it's up to you to weight the cost vs benefit of sticking with outdated, insecure stuff vs buying new equipment. [13:44] k_sze_: nothing insecure about it. This stuff is on isolated VLANs [13:46] Can you keep a cheap computer on the same LAN with an old version of Ubuntu just for this purpose? Or does that not satisfy your workflow? [13:47] And you are betting on your VLAN not being somehow compromised. [13:48] All kinds of bugs can happen. Maybe a firmware bug in switch can make other computers break into your VLAN. [13:48] Which is why security by layers is important. [13:53] k_sze_: good luck to whoever spends the time trying to do that :) [14:18] Hiyas all [14:29] Hello peeps, I'm having difficulties with my flash plugin that doesn't work as expected. Perhaps you can give me hand with it? [14:29] !flash [14:29] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [14:33] benni, give more details please, ubuntu version, what browser .. [14:33] I stumbled across the problem while I was listening to a radio station via the browser (in this case FF). Since the last update of "adobe-flashplugin", i cannot open the page and simultaneously watch youtube-clips (and other video-streaming sites), animated pics on facebook don't work either. Once I've closed the tab with the radio, the yt-clips start automatically. The same problem seems to appear the other way round - If I load [14:33] the video-clips first the page with the stream won't run. It seems that these problems appear in all browsers and since the update - hence my thought that this is related to the plugin. I've also noticed that the streaming-clips (in chrome) will start once I've closed the other tab (in firefox) - and vice-versa. I'd expect that -as before- could simultaneously browse all sort of pages and in all browsers. [14:34] I use ubuntu 14.04 [14:34] the package version is 1:20170912.1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 [14:34] FF 55.02 [14:35] chrome 61.0.3163.91 [14:36] So, when you switch tabs, only the focussed one plays flash? that is a feature, not a bug. [14:36] yep [14:38] It won't load no matter what the focus is. The content that is being loaded is the one that I loaded first. [14:40] maybe dragging the tab from the browser, so you have 2 instances, works for you? [14:42] benni, can you provide the radio station link ? [14:43] the problem also appears cross-browserwise. If I load the page with the radio-stream in FF and then a yt-clip in chrome, the page in chrome will load but the clip wouldn't start and/or freeze. I'll see if I can make a screencast to demonstrate it. [14:43] benni, the radio station link ? which is ? [14:43] http://www1.wdr.de/radio/player/radioplayer112~_layout-popupVersion.html [14:44] so I'm trying to install a package via apt-get and it wants to install python-protobuf also. I've already installed this via pip and its a newer version. Is there a way I can ignore that dependency? [14:45] benni, you're right [14:48] benni, it does not happen with this https://www.internet-radio.com/stations/electronic/ ... may an issue with that specific website [14:50] Why do the yt-clips won't play, then? [14:50] sorry, some bad grammar in my english... [14:51] you could try skipping flash and just running mplayer https://wdr-wdr5-live.icecastssl.wdr.de/wdr/wdr5/live/mp3/128/stream.mp3 [14:51] benni, btw, i don't think flash is the problem, because that site it's not using it (i disabled it in ff) [14:53] I thought about that, too. what else could the problem be? [14:53] benni, eureka: disable flash shockwave [14:54] benni, about:addons -> plugins -> disable shockwave [14:55] Thank you, done that [14:55] benni, ok [14:56] so I forced the installation of a .deb file which had unmet dependencies, how do I move foreward without apt-get always complaining about those missing dependencies? [14:59] Interesting - now that I've disabled flash, two buttons (for two ff extensions) in the FF panel appeared that were gone (since the update, I believe). [15:01] and that also solved the problem that I had in the first place... [15:02] Is it worthy to create a bug report for that? === jstein_ is now known as jstein [15:10] benni, maybe [15:12] OK. I'm trying to find more details and file e a report. Many thanks for your help - it is very much appreciated! [15:13] benni, no problem [15:43] where do you set default editor in ubuntu 16.04 [15:48] set -o emacs [15:52] it still using gedit [15:58] update-alternatives --config gnome-text-editor [16:03]