 All fixed. Idiot me forgot to unlock bootloader. Ripping my hair cut for nothing. 😀
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 @thepeter, There is no video
 @popeydc, I wonder, why they didn't ask us and kde in the first place. In foss, collaborating as much as possible should be a no-brainer, especially in fields as complicated as mobile OS. Anyways, thanks for the hint :)
 @neothethird, Because if they asked a particular project then they would have to ask every project that might be interested ;)
 or that they have no real interest in shipping anything but gnome, and have only brought this up now to get more backers. #conspiracy 🤣
 @DanChapman, 😂😂😂
 Maybe behind Purism there is Google...
 @deedend, that's a good one! 😂
 @deedend, I'm sure that it is Microsoft, not Google :p
[05:25] <tgBot10> * gostranger
 Is there an UBports emulator for GNU/Linux PC OS?
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 @xv8vxp, No
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 (Photo, 1227x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/e0bsevQU/file_610.jpg Is ARMv7 supported by UBports?
 yes
[06:24] <tgBot10> Foxmean was added by: Foxmean
 @thepeter, Yes this affects rc only
 @bhushanshah, Well the ubports tg app is a fork from Cutegram. So basically it runs on desktop and on the phone, but we got a few dependencies inside for the content hub and the notifications service. If you rip them out it should work.
 @UniversalSuperBox, My experience with snaps is a mixed bag. Easy to install, but in most cases like Atom, KeepassX and others they wouldn't start on my 16.04 or 16.10 desktops.
 750!!!
 Can I use the libreoffice snap in Ubuntu Touch?
 @nfsprodriver, Thanks for try to get whatssapp with the LoquiM but I can't get the contacts sync. I installed on Meizu Pro 5.
 is there any way to add a script to autostart?
 I want my shell script to fix TTL on reboot
[07:41] <tgBot10> <Vijay Kumar> what it TTL ?
[07:43] <tgBot10> <Vijay Kumar> there are two three types to do that depending on what you want to achieve
 @Foxmean, Welcome btw :)
 @vanyasem, easiest approach without making the rootfs rw is add an upstart config to ~/.config/upstart
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 @popeydc, i build a scrapper at day 2 or so http://www.delijati.net/image.png
 i build a scrapper at day 2 os so http://www.delijati.net/image.png
 @thepeter Nice to meet you.
[09:34] <logicman> can i use ubuntutouch for intel z8300. it ian atom processor i think
 @delijati, Hah! Great minds :)
 How can I see Netflix in browser?
 @jsalatas, Are you using XWayland? Or have you got a wayland plugin for Mir?
 @Jaume81, from what I understand netflix is full of proprietary stuff that pretty much stops you from watching on any browser except google Chrome... I haven't tried the other nasty browsers but the only way i could get it to work was on google chrome and I felt dirty so I stopped using netflix... they must be in bed together. Someone else probably has a more 'technical' answer but that's maybe something to help...  I have never tried on
[11:26] <tgBot10> mobile browser.
 @wayneoutthere, it works with Firefox as well, both on W and linux
 Ok but there aren't a firefox to Ubuntu Touch
 By terminal could get the chronium or similar?
 @Jaume81, Actully you can easily install it
 with Libertine
 Wouldn't that be like firefox 37 or whatever it is in the vivid archives? That's too old for netflix is it not?
 What's libertine? An app?
 And the location in UbPorts, why can't get it by wifi or red, only by gps?
 When using "GPS Only", you're still getting assisted GPS via Wi-Fi and your mobile network.
 @Jaume81, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Libertine
 It's a (developer ready) way to run full desktop apps on your Ubuntu Touch device.
[12:41] <vikki> Hi there...
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 @DanChapman, I don't know 😕
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 @UniversalSuperBox, 👍. Then why locate me in Madrid when I'm in Barcelona and uNav can't locate?
 If you wait a few minutes, you'll be located correctly because regular GPS will kick in.
 @Josué, icouldn't get it working with FF.  Some folks told me netflix is corrupt on a few fronts but haven't had time to look into it.
 @Jaume81, We're using GeoClue with the Mozilla Location Service. If you're located in a strange location, that's why. I think there's an app for Android that can help you contribute new location information to Mozilla if you would like, which would fix your issues in your general area.
 How can I do this? Which app? I have Meizu Pro 5 and UBPorts don't support like Oneplus, N5 or FP2 (so much expensive). And the other too don't have fingerprint.
 @Jaume81, Mozilla Stumbler. It's in Google Play and in F-Droid, though the F-Droid version is a year old.
 https://wiki.mozilla.org/CloudServices/Location/Software
 The Google Play version is also a year old. No big deal.
 I don't have other device (in nearly future is possible), only Meizu with Ubuntu Touch.possible) is F-Droid free?
 F-Droid is free, but it hosts Android apps and not Ubuntu apps. It cannot be installed on Ubuntu Touch devices.
 👍
[13:31] <tgBot10> sugandhim was added by: sugandhim
 @logicman, Sadly each device operates very differently and making them work with UT takes many months for each. Only a few can be supported with the limited number of developers working on this. Halium project may increase the availability in the future but for now you must use a device listed on the UBports site - unless you are an expert with your own group, which will do the necessary work on a new device
 Totally I recomended UT Tweak Tool app, make the OS better use. But it need one swipe to get down the top bar (swipe up left-down,right-down) from inferior edge, for example) and another to get down the screen to open top apps (swipe up right-down, from inferior edge), like one-hand mode. Then UT will be more usefull.
 @Jaume81, Could you rephrase? I don't understand what you're trying to say.
 Would it help to have a second telegram group labeled as "newcomer questions" so that it cuts down on the amount of " please port to xyz" and " why it doesn't work perfectly yet ? " Questions? Some of us non-dev folks could save the busy ones some distractions and point people back to the wiki in such cases.... I was one of those who failed the wiki and follow press releases too, so I hope nobody thinks I'm just pointing fingers.
 Excellent idea if newcomers will find it and use it. The alternative is to PM them but then it is not marked as 'actioned '
 On the ubports page, you can put an instruction saying " refer to the newcomer group first if you might have a non technical question "
 It's about app UT tweak. I'm sorry my english is awful.
[13:58] <tgBot10> <Vijay Kumar> @SwizzlaKalongie, I was thinking that we should keep the two most popular question in the group info or put those question in some FAQ page and post the link in group info. or the forum link where these questions are
 So two groups, both listed on the ubports page. Because someone who sees  the supergroup might just be lazy and want to start chatting right away without taking time to read first.
 @Vijay Kumar, Yes,this is good too
 With this app you can calibrate the edge sensitive and the swipe to come back last screen has more right. I can do with one hand, and I use the phone with left.
 And it has another options.
 The swipes, I mean, has to go from down edge to up. And get down the top bar or screen with one-hand.
 It would be good to have in Telegram UBports Supergroup a new option that could show explanations, other interesing directions, other groups, etc.
 +1
 I can put it in the description, but I don't think anyone reads the descriptions...
 Is it possible to ping a standard welcome message by PM to each new joiner?
 Bot gets reported as spammer, then we have bigger problems. :/
[14:34] <tgBot10> <Vijay Kumar> @UniversalSuperBox, but we will know that it is in description. so easy for us to tell them that read the group description :D
 @Jaume81, There are at least two ubuntu touch related spanish chats... If you want to, I can invite you there.
 @Vijay Kumar, Alright, I get that.
 @LarreaMikel, please could you invite me, thank you
 If you ask in the Ubuntu support forum of the Ubuntu Catalan Team, you may get help: … https://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=206
 @LarreaMikel, Mikel, are those chat/channels open to everybody? can I join them?
 sure!
 @alan_griffiths, XWayland. It was a test I did back in April when I started working with it. I believe that it just loads and I don't expect it to work.
 How about using and integrating: https://ring.cx/
 It is not that stable but it shares the same approach as far as I understood as Diaspora
 Ring would be very cool 👍
 At least two :)
 So maybe I will open a discourse, no?
 @jsalatas, Right. The shell part likely works, but there's too much else that can fail.
 @jsalatas, I think qt5.9 are optimized on ARM so probably the change will be notable on ubports
 @alan_griffiths, Yeap! It just loads. I'm sure that touch events don't work  (I had to comment out parts in the code to make it load) and I'm pretty sure that other functionality doesn't work as well.
 @Flohack, Secret chats are also available
 @UniversalSuperBox, And if you disabled GPS? … How precise is network location?
 If you disabled GPS, you would have no location.
 Network location will be as accurate as Mozilla says it is, and that depends on the available data for your area. I don't know if geoclue provides this information, or if we have an API to expose it to apps.
 Could it be that Ubuntu touch is banned in France to get internet access? I had roaming when coming to France for a couple of hours with my fp2 and this morning no internet access.
 Same after login into hotel WiFi. For some minutes access was there but than stopped working while WiFi connection is excellent and other devices (eg nexus 9 with cyanogenmod) working fine in same WiFi...
 Does it work again after a reboot perchance?
 I highly doubt that there would be a blanket ban like that
 Rebooted several times. WiFi seems to be there again. I will observe further...
 @bastos777, Not really possible... beeing banned by France :)
[17:53] <tgBot10> George Law was added by: George Law
 @Ern_st, They couldn't even ban Hitler!
[18:39] <PsynoKhi0> hi, is there any file integrity check in place for the recovery images available from http://cdimage.ubports.com/ ?
 @twinkybot, Uhm, no. Diaspora is federated, Ring is completely decentralized
 Matrix is more like Diaspora than Ring is
 (Voice, 1s)https://irc.ubports.com/Ms2DbxTh/file_611.oga
 Sorry
 Didn't intend to use the voice messge, accidentally sent one
 @Ern_st, 😂
 @whig4life, 😂 😂😂
[19:17] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> @Flohack, Is there the need for a special test approach. I can't reproduce the bug on mx4 (15.04/rc (r4)). I can successfully open webpages as well as web apps without any crashes.
 Thanks @Sy
 Maybe we can have a discussion about it here? … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/558/ring-cx-and-a-client-for-ut
 Don't have a forum account and don't want to bother
 same
 Just want to respond to "As far as I understand Matrix goes in direction of e.g. Mattermost but maybe with a more open approach to different types of communication. … Whereas Ring is more like Skype or Telegram." … Nope, Matrix is really more like Skype and Telegram. Ring is most like Tox. The problem with Ring and Tox is that they drain battery way worse because they have to keep several connections open
 it also seams it has no client api ...
 matrix api aka client sdks are "uncomplete" but at least there are some ...
 Tox has a library with 0 documentation, no clue about Ring, Matrix has an API and a few SKDs yeah
 @Flohack, Yeap! Especially oxide requires 8GB memory :p
 That's not a click app, though. We're already using CI for that, since it's a deb package
 Tesla use Ubuntu, who know what app's type use?
 @Jaume81, ¿Tú hablas Español?
 @Jaume81, I'm pretty sure that's just "under the hood". The UI and many other parts are probably custom made
 @neothethird, Mir :)
 @tsimonq2 Has mentao a la bicha.
 Yes I know but if the apps would have compatibility with UT, welcome. Because we can get an excellent nav and TuneIn, for exemple.
 ¿Dónde está el baño?
 i can spanish?
 Well, with respect. But I think in this group is better use english.
 Why do you ask where is the toilet?
 yeah
 oh.. so it's not library? :/
 biblioteca!
 I see some your videos
 @Jaume81, the name clearly states `ENGLISH` in caps
 Ok, don't worry Semkin
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/zMcIeJlq/file_612.mp4
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/WlGkQx2V/file_613.webp
 Hey!! What's happen with hotmail in Dekko?? Is break, I can send or recieve mails. Today breaks.
 @Jaume81, Dekko or Dekko 2?
[20:49] <tgBot10> Alessandro Tellarini was added by: Alessandro Tellarini
 Dekko because Dekko 2 don't appears the keyboard
 If you open other app and open tht keyboard, when you go to Dekko2 appears the keyboard.
 @Jaume81, you can get the keyboard switching to a different screen and then back to dekko 2
 I guess it's a little bug
 a lot of Spanish speaking in this group
 Spanish speaking people, I meant
 But for me with an E4.5 I can't send in Outlook nor Yandex. Allways.
 yeah, same here. I have a Fastmail account and I can't send emails at all
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 I think Dekko2 is alfa.
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 @Stefan Kalb, Ok so it seems only BQ devices are affected? wtf
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/iqCipUKJ/file_615.jpg
 With Dekko.
 I will try with Dekko 2
 Have you rebooted the phone?
 Quick question;
 Is there a way to submit a list of applications that I would really love to see ported to the Open Store?
 once they close canonical's store, I would not like to see them go...
 No, don't rebbot. Hey thanks for the keyboard advisekeyboard.
 @Flohack, It's not the first time... These phones are also affected by an Oxide bug which makes WebGL not working or something like that...
 Hotmail is unconfig. App is thinking yet.
 @per_sonne, forums at ubports site 😁
 @thepeter, Thanks; and what happens after that? I've been sending e-mails to some devs to asked them to port to the open store, but mostly I get no reply...
 @Jaume81, Perhaps tomorrow it does.
 Perhaps
 @TronFourtyTwo, Damn this will be a waste of time again!
 @per_sonne, Well here it works on community attitude, to be honest, it takes talking to people, a lot, maybe patroning somebody who would try to do it, or maybe condidering to try learning how are apps made and step by step developing 😉
 it's a shame, though, some apps are quite good. Would be a loss if they go away...so much work for nothing.
 (That's what I try to, in a meantime, do actually)
 @per_sonne, I was given advice to get to the souces if I can and save at least those
 good, good...
 modtly launchpad or github projects
 @per_sonne, When you have installed an app it is posible obtain the click file. I put an explanation in Asubuntu.
 That would be great
 would that allow for us to backp the apps for future installs?
 Does someone has the click file for the knowndict? I tried to compile from launchpad source but no sucess...
 With this OTA yes
 The link is: https://askubuntu.com/questions/784372/how-can-i-make-a-click-file-from-an-installed-app/784374#784374
 @Cesar_Herrera, nice
 @Cesar_Herrera, @cibersheep @mateosalta Maybe we can add "Edit installed Webapp" to Webapp Creator 😁
 @Jujuyeh, I was doing that by hand :D
 good idea...
 http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/linux-smartphone-operating-systems/
 I should really make an add-on for Firefox that analyzes the context and replaces "Linux" with "GNU/Linux" when necessary
 @vanyasem, Oh god no more naming controversy noooooo
 I cant manage to get nextcloud sync to work. Owncloud app doesn't sync anything and Calendar says my host URL is invalid
 I'm confused here
 @vanyasem, that's weird. The only time I've seen that happen was when the client was too old for the server version.
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/cpB4eWD4/file_617.jpg
 @mariogrip, Oneplus one got CAMERA!!!
 @mariogrip, is that an S8 you're taking a picture with?
 @exar_kun I have listen to the podcast!!! ^
 @vanyasem, jep
 @vanyasem, one of the only devices with slimport, + im following/testing how there desktop mode thingy works
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/QnHl34Pd/file_619.jpg I totally get that
 😁
 @vanyasem, hahah :P
 that's a Nexus 5 though 😏
 ubuntu touch *soon tm* on s8
 @mariogrip, I would be happy to test Halium builds on the Nexus 5x
 when they're ready, of course
 If we're being serious here
 the thing missing for that is mir android 7.1 support
 will get cracking on that after ota2 is fully out
 (Photo, 1280x605) https://irc.ubports.com/bahqZhWw/file_621.jpg
 rock 🤘
 @mariogrip, Thanks for listening 😂 any thing you want to add for the next #audiocast ?
 @mariogrip, @exar_kun I was refearing to this, you said the only thing stopping you from fully use opo as a daily driver was camera, now that's fixed :D
 @exar_kun maybe i'm remembering wrong, but i think you missed it in the last podcast
 Oh yes! Yay
 Awesome camera
 :D
 @Jujuyeh, That could be fun 😀
 @vanyasem, :D