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=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash
gonyereSo, I continue to have two-finger scrolling quit working. It seems to be after closing my laptop and it suspending for a period, but has now occured at least 3 times. The only way I've found to make it work again is to reset tweak tool to default settings and restart. I am *not* changing anything in tweak-tool between times. Thoughts?12:56
=== JanC_ is now known as JanC
d1rewolfhi all. just upgraded from 17.04. While troubleshooting various wayland issues (on a laptop which has both nvidia and intel chipsets and use prime-select), I noticed that it still seems to be using lightdm, even though I think gdm is now the default. what's the appropriate way to switch?16:27
d1rewolfcan someone tell me how to downgrade to xserver (instead of wayland) on 17.10? Having all sorts of problems because my laptop has both intel and nvidia cards (think prime-select) 16:53
brainwashd1rewolf: uninstall lightdm and install/use gdm16:55
d1rewolfd1rewolf: I'm using gdm now16:56
d1rewolfer...brainwash ^ ;)16:56
d1rewolfbrainwash: although I didn't completely uninstall lightdm, I did dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 and now gdm is in use16:56
brainwashand you cannot switch to the normal gnome session?16:57
d1rewolfbrainwash: I'm able to login to gnome16:57
d1rewolfand configure my monitors via "Displays"16:57
d1rewolfbut if I log out/back in, the monitor settings disappear16:57
d1rewolfthis is with primeselect set to nvidia16:57
d1rewolfwhen set to intel (mesa) it wouldn't login at all....although come to think of it that was using lightdm16:58
d1rewolfso perhaps a switch to intel and then logging in with gdm will do?16:58
brainwashI assume that with intel it would try to load gnome wayland, and with nvidia the xorg one16:59
d1rewolfbrainwash: I'm running with nvidia now, and it appears wayland is running16:59
d1rewolfbrainwash: XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland17:00
brainwashis that really the case?17:00
brainwashok17:00
d1rewolfbrainwash: would that verify it was the case?17:02
d1rewolfnvidia-settings doesn't work any longer....just refuses to launch17:02
d1rewolf"ERROR: Unable to find display on any available system"17:02
brainwashwell yeah17:02
brainwashit's a wayland session17:02
brainwashtherefore, not compatible with nvidia-settings17:03
d1rewolfbrainwash: is there a somewhat easy way to fallback to xorg instead of wayland?17:05
d1rewolfbrainwash: or would you happen to know a way to determine why the "Displays" section isn't storing its data?17:05
d1rewolfit's painful to have to re-enable the monitors, and then try to drag them (that dragging never seems to just work)17:06
brainwashgdm allows you to select what session you want to start17:07
d1rewolfbrainwash: for me, Gnome just fires up Wayland17:07
d1rewolfalthough I see the Gnome with Wayland option as wel17:07
d1rewolfthis is an upgrade from 17.04 to 17.1017:07
brainwashyou get wayland without selecting "gnome with wayland"?17:08
d1rewolfbrainwash: yes, I am17:09
brainwashI suggest checking launchpad then17:10
brainwashmaybe a bug report exists17:11
d1rewolfbrainwash: ok, thanks17:11
d1rewolfbrainwash: well, mystery solved. There's a "Gnome on X11" option in the gdm menu. That seems to launch it on xorg.17:20
d1rewolfstill can't figure out why the heck my monitor/display settings won't save17:20
d1rewolfif one has settings from gnome on 17.04 but wishes to use the default 17.10 look/feel/settings/etc, how can one roll back or default to those?17:26
brainwashd1rewolf: maybe bug 171634117:27
ubottubug 1716341 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Settings for external monitor are deleted after reboot, suspension, log out" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/171634117:27
brainwasha bit busy right now, so I did not read through the report17:27
d1rewolfbrainwash: cool. i'll take a look. thank you17:27
d1rewolf_hi guys. Anyone successfully running vmware workstation on 17.10?19:00
=== d1rewolf_ is now known as d1rewolf
d1rewolfhow can one reset gnome to default settings on 17.10 (assuming you've upgraded from a 17.04 system using gnome)? Would like to try out Ubuntu's default look and feel19:13
naccd1rewolf: i'd create a dummy test user19:13
naccd1rewolf: alt. backup your ~/.local and ~/.config directories (there are probably others, which is why i suggest the test user)19:13
d1rewolfnacc: you mean use the test user to see what's created upon login?19:15
d1rewolfwould hate to blow away all settings in ~/.local and ~/.config :-/19:15
naccd1rewolf: right, i have done both ways19:16
naccd1rewolf: 1) create a dummy user, login as them19:16
naccd1rewolf: 2) mv ~/.local ~/.local.bak; mv ~/.config ~/.config.bak19:17
d1rewolfnacc: I'll give it a go. thanks ;)19:17
CRogersHi. Is anyone else having the swap file fail in 17.10, causing a system freeze when the RAM fills up?19:18
naccCRogers: i'm using a swap file in 17.1019:19
naccCRogers: and hiya (from #ubuntu-devel)19:19
naccCRogers: what does `cat /proc/swaps` say?19:19
CRogersnacc: /dev/dm-0                               partition20966360-119:20
naccCRogers: well, that's not a swapfile :)19:21
naccCRogers: how about `grep swap /etc/fstab` ?19:21
CRogersnacc: this is what Ubuntu installs by default now. I've changed NOTHING19:21
CRogersnacc:  /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 019:22
naccCRogers: ah, encrypted swap?19:22
naccCRogers: grep SwapTotal /proc/meminfo19:22
CRogersnacc: Does Ubuntu accudentally encrypt the swap file while encrypting the home folder?19:22
naccCRogers: i don't know19:23
CRogersnacc SwapTotal:       2096636 kB19:23
naccCRogers: so you have swap :)19:23
naccCRogers: wehther from swap file or swap partition, you have it19:23
naccCRogers: so ... that's presumably not what's causinng your system to freeze19:24
CRogerslogfile says Failed to activate swap file19:24
CRogersMaybe because the installer encrypted it?19:24
naccCRogers: i don't think you hav ea swapfile19:25
naccCRogers: it's not listed in fstab or /proc/swaps19:25
naccCRogers: when did you install?19:25
CRogersYesterday.19:25
naccCRogers: and you downloaded the iso image yesterday?19:25
CRogersWell, I re-installed yesterday.19:25
CRogersYes.19:25
naccCRogers: oh i wonder did you have a swap partition before?19:26
naccCRogers: and did you reuse your partitions?19:26
CRogersupdater failed (like it always does) for 16.04 > 17.0419:26
CRogersSo I figured since I'm reinstalling anyway, may as well trythe latest version.19:27
CRogersnacc: Nope. Told it to erase the entire disk19:27
naccCRogers: hrm19:27
CRogersDidn't change any swap or partition settings.19:27
CRogersGuess a reinstall again is the best option.19:28
naccCRogers: sorry, I'm really not sure19:28
CRogersThis time, I'll just install GIMP and try to export the test file that eats up all the ram19:29
CRogersSee if it's "fixed"19:29
CRogersnacc: thanks for trying.19:30
CRogersnacc: did you encrypt your home folder?19:30
CRogerswhen you installed?19:31
naccCRogers: no, i do whole disk encryption19:31
naccCRogers: and i last installed ~15.1019:31
nacchave been upgrading sinnce19:31
CRogersnacc: You have a magic I'll never understand.19:31
CRogersI've been using Ubuntu for about 8 years, and I've had the upgrade succeed like maybe twice in all that time.19:32
naccCRogers: well, i'd never do 16.04 -> 17.04 :)19:32
naccCRogers: either upgrade with each release, or just do LTS->LTS19:32
CRogersOr wait until about a year after the release, then upgrade.19:32
naccCRogers: that's nonsenical for non-LTS19:33
naccCRogers: they are only supported for 9 months19:33
CRogersYea, well I use gimp-edge ppas19:33
CRogersto help test19:33
CRogersso I can't not upgrade.19:33
CRogersthey only build for most recent ubuntu19:33
CRogers(for the edge repos)19:34
naccCRogers: they publish for xenial?19:34
nacchttps://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulasch/+archive/ubuntu/gimp-edge?field.series_filter=xenial19:34
CRogersnacc: Yea, I might go back if I can't get this sorted.19:35
CRogersBut for how long they will support xenial...19:35
CRogersI can't really be updating all the time. I'm too busy.19:35
naccCRogers: i assume they'd support it as long as xenial is supported19:36
naccCRogers: that's basically what their pages ays19:36
naccCRogers: but you'd need to ask them19:36
CRogersNo, actually, that page is wrong.19:36
CRogersI had to upgrade to 16.10 to install edge.19:37
CRogersforgot xenial is 16.04, but yea that wasn't workng.19:37
CRogersStuck on gimp 2.9519:38
naccCRogers: well, that doesn't make sense. 16.10 is eol19:38
* CRogers shrugs19:39
CRogersAnyway, I'll reinstall19:39
CRogersto test19:40
CRogersand file a bug report if it fails again.19:40

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